Where do I sign up at? The only thing better then killing the French is probably killing the...............No nothing is better than bombing the French!!!

Wait a minute: you say "instant dissemination of porn" like that's a Bad Thing, or else something not worth celebrating. No less a person than Steve den Beste [genuflect] ranks porn as one of the major achievements of the Internet.

Anyway, enough of that.

When do the missiles launch? I want to get a decent supply of French plonk in before Burgundy becomes a glowing mass of radiated stuff.

I'm ready. Got the photoshop fired up so I can make silly graphics about the Frenc. I've even written a few limericks.

Bombs over Paris!

Actually, we did bomb France already - during WWII. Well, technically we were aiming at the German troops who the French had surrendered to. Believe it or not, some Frenchmen have not forgiven us for it yet. They are angry at Americans for killing Frenchmen - not at the Germans who were killing, raping, looting, etc.

Wait a minute.

You can get porn on the internet?

Man, if only I could find a fool-proof way to make my penis bigger and my orgasms more powerful

I'll be happy to forward my emails to you. They detail many ways in which you can grow five inches overnight and have six hour orgasms - with Britney Spears!

Or should i just send you the porn?

Joel, I guess the fact that we already bombed France and that they're angry about it is yet another reason to bomb France.

Everyone, there will be plenty of time for making your penis larger and orgasms more powerful after France has been bombed. Does anyone know if there is software available to set up one of those online signature things?

Sign me up, those Frenchies have had it too good for too long!

Six hour orgasms? Sure, if you only want a quickie....

We still have four or five flyable B-17 Flying Fortresses, several B-25 Mitchell bombers, and scores of Mustangs.

I think the nostalgia value of bombing them with impunity using half-century old gear wins bonus points for rubbing it in. Also, while we're there, we should bomb Germany again too. Just a little, for old times sake. Oh, and for Herta Däubler-Gmelin. Bitch.

What are they going to do? Throw resolutions at us?

I like the idea about using old Forts! Nothing like a touch of nostalgia along with some good old fashioned glee as in "this time we're not even pretending to be after someone else, like in the 40s or that fun 'mistake' in Tripoli, BWAHAHAHAH!"

Simplisme? I got your simplisme right HERE!

NO NO NO !!!!

Bad Hawks.
Think before you bomb someone.
First we should give France BACK to Germany and then bomb what used to be France.

How do you say the following in in French?
"Thank God For the You American's And The Blood You Left Soaked Into Our Soil Because Otherwise I Would Be Speaking German Today"

Just the thought of bombing the French makes my penis larger, and gives me a DAY-LONG orgasm.

We should bomb with bi-planes, just to rub it in.

Can we use the Neutron Bomb? I'd like to try and keep the buildings and stuff. Plus it shouldn't muck up the wine harvest.

If we don't have any handy, maybe the Russians can loan us some - if they're not using them on Chechnya.

I can see Slim Pickens now . . .

How can I help start the bombing? No one in the history of the world has ever surrendered faster than the French (5 minutes) in WWII and it took the whole rest of that day for the country to turn traitors (there were only 10 guys and an old woman in the french underground) and start kissing up to thier Uncle Adolph. It has only come to my attention recently that all French are gay (that explains the wine and cheese) three more reasons to bomb the snot out of them. How about potpouri isn't that thier fault too, just one more reason, there are too many to count, another thing, french poodles.......I'm writing my Senator!!!!

At least Winston Churchill and the Royal Navy had the good sense to sink the French Fleet (another 5 minutes)

If we bomb the French, which I'm all for, we have to live wth the unfortunate consequence that our collective dicks will become less huge on average once the 40 million or so French shrimp dicks are no longer included in the average dick size calculation. But I can handle that; let's kill 'em.

I surrender, Pleez don't hurt moi. Wee French luv the snail not the clam (oyster) see Spartacus

Bombing these pieces of crap would be the easiest way out. We should send them all to Iraq and let them live with their friends. I wonder what they would say if someone knocked down their tower in the center of Paris?

The USA saved France from Nazis 2 times. Thanks but France will not be the USA's slave because of that. OK your army is powerfull. But don't forget Vietnam war and Somalia... (Operation "Restore Hope" – 1993 -, Cf "Black Hawk Down" : the body of an US Army pilot draged by the crowd) : in spite of your modern weapons, some people that you have estimated as "primitive" beaten you...
You say that France has been invaded and humiliated by Nazis ? That's right. But you know, we heard for decades, your leaders saying that "the USA has the best Security Agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA...), the best army, the best technologies to protect the country against missiles and all kind of threat, the best police, the best spying system (Echelon), the best...the best...the best....". Well, according to your Government, the USA was the safest country in the world. And guess what ? One day (09/11/01), 19 men ONLY with CUTTERS killed 3031 Americans !!! They didn't have any bombs or chemical weapons. No, only cutters !! Did they come suddenly on 09/10 from another country to kill Americans ? No, they have been "welcomed" by the USA a few years ago, you gave them a job and a salary. With this job they rent a flat, and in this flat they planned the 09/11 attacks... I think they have thanked the USA for a such hospitality ! These attacks were very sad. And also FRENCH were very shocked ans sad. I've seen some French (that you hate so much) crying...
Do you realize that from decades, YOU Americans gave billions and billions of Dollars to the US Governement which was supposed to protect you againts terrorism attacks ?????
So, do you think that France is the only country that has been humiliated ?! 19 men + cutters = 3031 Americans killed...
And I supposed that when your President Bush said that Bin Laden was the "Devil", he didn"t told you that the USA and CIA has provided support (guns...) to Bin Laden's during the war between Russians and Afghanistan in the 80's ? Bin Laden was against the Russia. I suppose that your Governement "forgot" to give you this information... What a big hypocrisy !!! I you don't believe me, take a look in Time Magazine or USA Today websites...
Yeah, please give some "lessons" to the French people. Tell them that they are idiots and stupid. But French kids don't bring guns at school and kill their classmates (Cf Columbine High School – 15 teenagers killed by 2 AMERICANS teenagers - 04/20/99), people don't burn crosses in gardens and kill black people (KKK is not a French Organisation), or park a van full of explosive in front of a FBI building (Oklahoma - 04/19/95- 168 people killed by...an AMERICAN, not a French !!!) I suppose that u forgot that also. And what about the Washington's sniper ? Who killed 10 innocents Amercians ? Was it a French ? NO : 2 AMERICANS.... Etc...etc...
If you want, you can bomb and destroy the rest of the world. But don't forget that for 09/11, Columbine, Oklahoma City, Washington... the danger was INSIDE the USA.
You can also think and say that France is a benighted country : Airbus aircrafts (built in France) sold more planes than Boeing in 2002, for example ("we have the best planes").
You don't know what happened in France. And you thought that French people don't know what happened in the USA.... That's wrong
I've been 2 times in the USA and I love this country. There are some stupid people in the USA. But I don't say that ALL the Americans are stupid. And of course there are stupid French (in particulary the guy who writes that the Pentagon attack was not done by a plane). I've got very good American friends. You guys are used to make amalgams. You think that ALL the French are anti-American. That's wrong. But you believe everything said by your media (TV...) and you are not able to have a "critical mind" in comparison to that. French are not better than the USA. And Americans are not better than French. They are different. That's all. But please, try to do your self critic...

Wasn't it France that bailed on us during the Vietnam war? Yeah, now my memory recalls. It was you bastards who got us involved in YOUR mess! Another fine example of the French tradition of fleeing!

Yeah, you are right Badseed ! And when you came in Vietnam, you told us that you were sure to win that war...

no no no no no
you're going about this all wrong. what we need to do is declare three days of total rioting in the US. after the three days of fun are up we announce to the world that the US shall finally bring peace, equality and happiness to the whole world.
then we evenly distribute our total nuclear arsenal about the entire globe, effectively ending the human race.
then we can all be with jesus and sing songs (except for those filthy muslim pig bastards who get to rot in hell)

french dude,
you make some good points, but stay away from the areas that you don't know shit about. first of all, the whole world knows that your pride and joy "airbus" is an inefficient sham of company which only stays afloat because it is completely subsidized by your french government. I could go on to refute the rest of your bullshit but I dont have enough time right now.
let me just suggest to you and your people to stop obsessing about the united states. nobody here cares about you guys in france. leave us the fuck alone. just shut up and let us run the world, we've been spending trillions of dollars annually to protect you and your eurotrash cronies, and we've been doing a damn fine job, you guys have been whining about it for far too long.
do you think that we don't know why you're opposed to the war in iraq?? we know that your country and germany combined have over $100 billion invested in Iraq. $100 billion, that youre afraid to lose once we conquer their sorry asses. so stop pretending like you give a shit about piece. shut your fucking mouth, and follow our lead.

The military history of France:

Gallic Wars – Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2,000 years of French history, France is conquered by, of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War – Mostly lost, saved at last by a female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare: "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."

Italian Wars – Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians. Wars of Religion – France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

Thirty Years War – France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution – Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War – Tied.
War of the Augsburg League / King William's War / French and Indian War – Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Francophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession – Lost. The war also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

American Revolution – In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome," and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare: "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

French Revolution – Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars – Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

The Franco-Prussian War – Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I – Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

World War II – Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel song.

War in Indochina – Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu.

Algerian Rebellion – Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a Western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare: "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

War on Terrorism – France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.

The question for any country silly enough to count on the French should not be "Can we count on the French?" but, rather, "How long until France collapses?"

G. Kilber

Bomb the French? Sure, and Susan Sarandon and Barbra Streisand's houses also!

You want the USA to bomb France and Iraq...? Ok, but what about the 11000 Americans gunshot every years in the USA by... Americans ? Most of Americans assassinated in the world are killed by Americans. 11000 dead = 3.6 times the number of people killed on 11/09/01...
We'd better try to find solutions to avoid this annual slaughter.
GOD BLESS AMERICA

Who was the original thinker (frequently bidened) who opined that Paris -- because of its architecture and many treasures; and because of the attitude of the Parisians towards the rest of the world -- was the site best suited for a field test of the neutron bomb? I would like to trace the original quote (my wording is from memory), occasion and date.

french dude,
you make a good point regarding guns not being prevalent in france, resulting in fewer domestic deaths than the U.S. steps should be taken immediately to rectify this problem, possibly by any of the myriad countries and organizations who have routinely beaten the pulp out of, and sodomized france throughout history.
your country is a disgrace in so many ways i can't believe i am addressing you.

" The French bourgeois doesn't dislike shit, provided it is served up to him at the right time."
-Jean-Paul Sartre

Peace person, your comments on America show Darwinism hard at work...that's what makes America great. You thereby offer additional validation as to why France is so miserable, smelly, and is in general an open sewer of unwashed,hydrophobic, claustrophobic, xenophobic, inbred...well... French people! who shake old issues like a poodle shakes an old rag toy. When the French breathe, they whistle through their nose. Who can stand it? If the angry, hateful French could purchase guns, they'd shoot each other in three days time and America wouldn't even have to think about them. They have croutons for brains and their butt-crack and armpits smell of rancid onions and vinegar. How to help the French? First, give them all loaded guns. Then, give them poop scoopers and make them pick up their own feces when they drop a log on the streets of Paris, or on the subways. Encourage them to carry jars and wipes for their personal urine. Help them overcome their fear of water and soap. If this doesn't work, send them to Iraq since they love Saddam so much.

What about Poland? You have to remember the Poles used to kick some serious butt from sea (Baltic) to shining sea (North Sea) until they were dumb enough to ally themselves with France. And they have been paying ever since. Kinda why I live here and not there.

Hell yes let's bomb France! I mean, er... I have some nuclear weapons and I must ignore NATO treaty and test them, using France for a test site! Fucking Frogs - I say cannibalize the lot.

Yankeedoodle,
Awesome rant!!! Down with the frogs.

I've been thinking about bombing France and found this site by running the phrase "bomb France" through Google.

I think we should do it, force all French citizens to move to Iraq with Saddam as their leader, then use their country as a big parking lot and/or as a depository for nuclear waste.

What do you call 100,000 frenchmen with their arms in the air?
The french army!

What is the difference between a frenchman and toast?
You can make soldiers out of toast!

france are officialy the smelliest country in Europe. A survey was conducted, and found that they buy the least amount of soap and deoderant for the size of their country.
Wellington Kicked ass. He told his troops to lie down on the ground so that the french cannon balls would harmlessly drift over their heads.
RULE BRITANNIA! I say the british and our American cousins should start a new empire, with france being the first conqured territory, then we use them as slave labour.
(notice how i dont use a capital F when spelling france)

May i add another comment. the french are part of a conspirocy with the Germans to build a European superstate. They already have a single currency and want OUR aircraft carriers for the "Euro Navy" I CANT BELEIVE BLAIR HAS AGREED TO THIS HE ALSO WANT THE EURO! HE MUST BE A FILTTHY FROG IN DISGUISE!.
They want to call it the united states of Europe, and most of the groundwork was done during the Nazi occupation so that the Thousand Year reich could stand. Half of the frogs joined the Viche (facist) government after nazi occupation, and fired upon British and American troops (killing a few) as they landed in Africa, But surrendered in about 5 minutes.
THE FROGS ARE FACIST BASTARDS JUST LIKE THEIR NAZI BUM CHUMS INVADE EUROPE DESTROY THEM ALL. apart from Holland, Sweden, Italy and spain, coz they are ok.
P.S the "Glorious" french resistance mainly consisted of British SOE (special operations executive) agents, and would not of existed if it wasnt for Britain.
I really love the idea of bombing france with 40's hardware, my weapon of choice would be a spitfire so i could go on strafing runs.

Try this link.....
http://www.utdallas.edu/~anything/webmaster/nazi3.html

Its so obvious now.

I love the way the frog that spoke earlier said:
"The USA saved France from Nazis 2 times. Thanks but France will not be the USA's slave because of that."
He says it in such a way that it was no big deal 135,000 Americans, 110,000 Britsh Died in World War II liberating their country (not to mention the countless British agents caught in the french resistance that were tortured), and that 980,000 British, and an unkown amount of Americans (probably quite a big figure) died in World War One saving their bacon. Now theres gratitude.

I really should stop going to this site as i cant concnetrate on my coursework due to the immense rage i am feeling towards the french. FUCK IT WHO NEEDS BOMBS? JUST GIVE ME A LEE ENFIED BOLT ACTION RIFLE, AND A THOMSON SUB MACHINE GUN AND ILL TAKE EM ALL ON! (cue patriotic music... Rule britannia....)

Churchill,
We are with you! Conquoring, then enslaving the french under US&British rule is awesome! They should pay for the blood of our fellow countrymen in their defense, the ungrateful bastards. Not allowing the Nazis to stick it in their proverbial asses before getting involved is now a poor decision in retrospect.

I would like to respond to French Dude's remarkable observation that Americans are responsible for the majority of American deaths due to illicit use of guns by teenagers. It is most unfortunate that such unstable elements gain access to weapons. However, I would also like to mention that the only reason such things don't happen in France is because the French have an ingrained genetic tendecy to throw down their weapons in lieu of using them. Given that cowardice is such a prominient character trait among the French, they should feel secure that such incidents as colombine and oklahoma will never happen there.

I have to share with you today's highlight. I was in town this afternoon, and came across a couple speaking french. I spat on the man, then called his wife a whore. It felt wonderful, and I still have a hard on from the rush. I think my penis is actually larger than it was yesterday, so I hope I see more french people tomorrow!
"Paris is burning", excellent summation of the french fighting spirit. It seems that cowardice, deceit, and smelling are the cardinal virtues of the frenchman, in fact I believe that is what the colors of the french flag represent. I just got a great idea! French flag designed toilet paper! I have to get to work now. Thanks!

It should also be noted that the German prime minister/chancellor won an election based on his running on an anti-American ballot. I see no reason why we need to worry about France and Germany's opionion of our foreign policy. Neither of these countries provide useful commodities to the US. Germany's only major export has been war and foolish attemps to take over the world and the main French export, is any, is cowardice. Now I agree with some of the points made by Churchill and Italian Dude. However, after WWII and the removal of the Nazis, we should have given France to the Germans as a token of good faith for future diplomatic relations. This way, we would have a chance to dispose of both after their recent disgraceful, stance. While we are at it, we need to throw the UN and their useless diplomats off of US soil. They have been, are and always will be anti-American parasites. Using the funds for our own economy instead of wasting it on worthless Eurotrash and third world countries would pull us out of this recession.

Ok, now you have got me going on the UN. The thought process behind establishing this group must have been; " Hey, we are the most powerful, civilized Nation on earth, so why don't we try to include the Third World in all of our decision making. Sure, they live in houses built out of their own feces, and eat each other when hungry, but they have great decision making ability and infinite wisdom".
Kudos to "Piss on Germany" for your wisdom. You did, however, ignore an export of Germany that is near and dear to the hearts of the french. They make those videos of people shitting in each others' mouths. Actually, if the German Politicians would participate more in this native Teutonic practice, they could have avoided the foolish statements made against US policy.

It almost brings a tear to the eye to see so many people unite against a common cause HATING THE FRENCH, and to a lesser extent the germans.
As we speak, im buying a ton of concrete to seal of the channel tunnel, and am going to sit there with a .50 calibe machine gun Mowing down any frog foolish enough to come anywhere near me, since they have never actually seen a gun being fired, i do have the element of suprise on my side. and i really must spit on a frenchman, it sounds liek so much fun!

If i was an American (president shall we say), i would be getting extremely pissed off with the rest of the world, and would just ask for all my loans back. I would then Walk out of the UN. and blow the shit out of anyone who would mess with me, and wouldnt give a shit abut arseholes such as the french and the Germans. BLAST those sausage eating Winos!.
Cmon if anyone was going to bomb France it must be George Bush. He already called them cheese eating surrender monkeys. And for that in my eyes the man is a God.

Churchill,
It is very satisfying. I highly recommend it. I agree, it is wonderful to have people of different Nations sharing their hatred of these sub- countries. Isn't the internet great?!?!

Ah gentlemen, I think we need more French Flag burning. You see the liberals are always crying about free speech and how necessary it is...PROVIDED IT COMPLIES WITH THEIR VIEWS..if not, they label you radical or better yet, RACIST..My plan is to join the liberals and exercise the time honored tradition of FLAG BURNING..instead of ours(which many a liberal promote), I encourage Americans from coast to coast to engage in burning the French flag..some of it is bound to hit the international media and, of course, the french people. We need to mock them, taunt them, and let them know how lowly we think they are. It will also be interesting to watch the liberals label the french flag burners as "hoodlums" or "trailer trash"//however, if a group of black/chinese lesbians were burning an American flag, the liberal left would remark that it is a "groundbreaking expression" of free speech..so lets hit the liberals where it hurts most, in using their free speech, and laugh at them for being hypocites when they chastise us for our behavior.

I would also like to remind French dude that the Somalia incident occured when non-American military leadership had a hand in sending in American troops to, as usual, do the dirty work for the rest of the world and that useless group of dogshit, the UN. It also occurred under the leadership of a philandering, draft dodging coward(Clinton) who brought this country to such a weak state that a bunch of religious perverts were able to kick us in the balls with minimal equipment and training. Thus, I really don't consider the United States to have been a legitimate entity under the leadership(or lack thereof), of Clinton. In short, your point about Somalia just reinforces the fact that we need an ass-kicking republican to once again put the world in order.

French Dude:

Two things. First, Somalia: That's what happens when the hands of the U.S. military are tied by people who don't know warfare -- because of diplomacy, our soliders are sent places they shouldn't be w/o massive backup, etc. but if we had properly equipped the efforts in Somalia, the world (French) would have screamed bloody murder about the American tyrants.

Second, cross-burning, kids shooting each other, etc. Every nation has trouble, how near-sighted of you to miss the fact that the French are currently -- every single day -- blowing up Jewish temples, beating Jewish schoolchildren and rabbis in the streets, and doing damages to Jewish businesses and private property. How noble and non-racist and perfect are the French! If you French had guns there wouldn't be a Jew left alive in France right now, so get off your high horse.

Yes, we have our share of bigots and nutbags -- it's an imperfect system, but it's certainly better than one that arrests and fines you for disrespecting the national anthem or flag, ala France. See, we believe in freedom here, not just self-righteous holier-than-thou moralism, and we believe in letting people live how they want and think/say what they want without fear. We stand by our allies when they need us and we stand up to rogue states who defy international law. We are the might backing up the word of the UN and if the UN doesn't recognize that its power in foreign affairs rests in a large way on American firepower, it's only because they're too busy looking through their rose-colored idealogical glasses to see how the real world works. Maniac dictators don't respond to resolutions; they respond to Black Hawks and Abrams tanks.

Nicely put, Jennifer. Where has French Dude gone? He needs to post some more of his french propaganda so that we can shred him some more. What he has received so far is only a small sampling of what he deserves, so lets all yell together " Come back, French Dude"!!!
In the meantime, lets hear some opinions on the United Nations as well as the French. Anybody?

AND ANOTHER THING! The french broke a Ban on Robert Mugabe and invited him to wine and dine at one of their fine palaces, and ignored the fact that he is starving millions to death in his country.
I am literally chocking on my own rage as i think about the french. jaque chirac (the french president/primeminister/ arsehole or what ever), told the eastern European countries to shut up when they said they supported America. THE GUY IS A TOTAL PRICK!.
I hope a cruise missile manages to go astray during the up and comming guld war, and through sheer fluke wedges itself between his but cheeks and BOOM!

I invite some more comments on hatred for the UN and French. Personally, I am more interested in attacking the French and UN first. The people of this country really need to show France how much we piss on their culture, values and ideals. The more the international media reports incidents of US hatred for the French, the more likely we are to sever all relations with them and make them an official enemy. Once we are official enemies, it will only take several minutes for complete US occupation of France..the problem is, the country has absolutely nothing to offer. The cuisine is overrated and overpriced, the women exude an odor that could knock a buzzard off a shit wagon, and its citizens are useless cowards. They would not even make good slaves. Any ideas what we could do with this piece of substandard real estate once we claim it for our own?
Finally, we need to rid the US of that fisher-price looking UN building. I think if we ask the UN parasites to leave our shores we can use the lot to build some really nice apartments or perhaps an amusement park. Manhattan really needs a six flags park. I once again encourage rampant French flag burning with a hint of urination and defecation thrown in for good measure.

I must add that the UN building should be neatly disassembled after the diplomats have been asked to leave..I in no way encourage violence against diplomats as that would make us no better than the Muslim primitives who terrorize the innocent.

I wonder if, being that they now form a united front, the french have adopted the german tradition of shitting in each others mouths. I think I will go to the video store and rent one of those german tapes, so that I can feel good about germans eating each others' shit. Gerheardt Schroeder, the german president ( or head shit eater, as I refer to him)is the asshole who won the recent election running on an anti american platform. This feces feeder has been taking the lead in the anti war movement along with Chirac from france. I am curious as to how two weakling nations like them can be considered world powers in the UN. Germany has not had any kind of millitary since they tried unsuccessfully to take over the world. Twice. And france's time honored tradition of rapid surrender has prevented them from ever being a force. As a poet once wrote, " french men do not have the fighter's disposition. They are far better at making love with their faces than warfare".
Question: Why do the french bury their dead with their asses sticking out of the ground?
Answer: Bike racks.

Ah, thank you for that lovely message of French hatred Italian dude. We must not subjugate ourselves to such anti-american parasitic nations of the UN. I just recalled that when Reagan dropped some missles on Libya in 1986, France refused to let us fly over French airspace. I still don't know why we even asked for permission. We, by all rights, after having prevented them from being enslaved twice, own them. They are our bitches if you will. As a matter of fact, I think we should acquire the Eiffel tower and place it in Manhattan. I also piss on Monet as his paintings suck. Norman Rockwell, now he can paint... Or at least paint something that does not look like a conglomerate of technicolor shit.

Italian dude, I do agree with the statement that the Germans have procured the fine art of coprophilia. However, from a clinical perspective, some of the joy of shitting in each others mouths stems from the primitive desire of the ancient limbic system of the human brain to delve into something filthy. Now, I take it you have not encountered a French woman. The odor of a French woman far exceeds that of shit, and the filth resulting from lack of showering and shaving is enough to delight the most decadent, basest desires of the human brain. Thus, I cannot concur that the French will follow in the footsteps of their warlike, shit eating neighbors with such filth already present in their population. However, there is always hope for a hybrid of filthy French women who devour the feces of the usually obsessively clean Germans. That would be a combination that could rival the creation of smores.

Damn! Coprophelia. The fact that the german art of shit eating has a clinical name attached to it brings me much joy, however, this term carries a sanitized patina. There is nothing sanitary or glorious about eating german shit, so I feel compelled to utilize the moniker "shit eaters" when referring to the german nation. I certainly hope that this does not offend you, "Piss on germany", as I have the uttmost respect for your statements above.
As for french women, yes, I have encountered them, but only within the boundries of the US, so they probably have been given the luxury of running water to bathe themselves. I am convinced now that I have not gotten a true picture of the french. To do so, I must cast myself into the putrid festering sewer that is france.
"Balls to the UN", Monet has always been a mystery to me as well. I would happily accept a Bob Ross painting in lieu of the sickening french blurs of color vomited onto canvas by Monet.

Just doing my daily part to engender hostility and disdain for France. Please make it a point to remind people who our real enemies are, and that they should boycott travel to France, not use French airlines, buy French foodstuffs, or suddenly become irreversibly cowardly. It is very easy to do..just some nice disparraging jokes or insults about France at the watercooler or at the opening of a meeting..it will catch like wildfire.

All this making fun of the cowardly, piss drinking, shit eating, panty wearing, girly men from France just warms my little heart. Bombing the French is such an excellent idea, especially with vintage 40's hardware. There is a group of Americans known as the Confederate Air Force that has a bunch of WWII Aircraft that makes air shows all over the US. They have some B17 Flying Fortress and B29 Super Fortress and some P51 Mustangs. Perhaps they would volunteer to Bomb France out of patriotism and to show good will. In between bombing runs they could land and show off their cool hardware then maybe get half drunk and smash in a few heads and take off to bomb a few more stupid villages. I think this would be a big hit.

But now to the real reason I write today. I want to talk about a little known and largely forgotten French contribution to society. The "Imaginary Line", you always hear people say this, but where does it come from? The original "Imaginary Line" is along the eastern border of France near Germany. It is an underground earthwork constructed in the period between the two great European wars based on archaic military thinking. In reality it could not have protected them from Neanderthals with stone tools never mind blitzkrieg. However the works were completed in 1940 and the French IMAGINED themselves safe from the Nazis. This, of course, proved to mere foolishness when Germany occupied France in about five minutes time. The "Imaginary Line" did however prove to be a good underground hiding spot for the French Army and this kept them from being involved in any of the dreaded fighting. The Germans were very pleased to find out that most of the biggest cowards in France were hidden safely underground so they could go about the business of taking over the rest of the country. Many parts of the "Imaginary Line" are open to the public so one can witness the foolish and cowardly tradition of France today. So even though it never served it's original purpose and so became the biggest military blunder in history it did advance the abstract concept "The Imaginary Line" end of history lesson

Keep up the good work men and piss on the French, piss on their heads.

Hello guys !
This is French Dude. How are you ? Just a few words to tell you that I'd like to thank a lot your country, your liberal politic, which gave me a good job : I work in France, in an aerospace company which is a part of the American Group called United Technology Company. A few years ago, this Group has decided to transfer all the production of aircraft propellers from Windsor Locks (CT) to a little town in France. Now, the propellers of all the AMERICAN military aircrafts (E2-C2 Hawkeye NP2000, C-130...) are made in France by French workers. I've been several times in the USA facilities in CT. The AMERICAN managers of UTC has decided to FIRED hundreds of poor AMERICAN workers, to close a part of the workshop and to send all the machines, tools, worksheets in France. Thanks to that, hundreds of French workers have a good job now.
So, we thank a lot your liberal politic.
Bye, GOD BLESS AMERICA

Oh ! This is French Dude again. Please don't tell me that my previous message was bullshit. You can have all these information on UTC website.

You americans want bomb France and Germany,my Vaterland?
I hate your country. Imperialists!
The French were our enemies in times of the World war II, but now they are our friends.
Im proud to be a member of the "old europe",how your ridiculous Bush and his monkeyministers called us.
You monkeys want to bomb and control the world, but you will never get this.
We are ready, ready to resist. France, Germany, Russia, Belgium,China and more are in the Iraq-question against your Terrorwar.
And if you "bomb" France (lol), we all will fight. Your army is big, thats right. But your soldiers are stupid. The best weapons are build in Germany. Heckler & Koch= G3, G36, PSG1, OICW,
MP5. That are german weapons. Better than your M16.
Our Leopard II tank is the best in the world(official tests).
PanzerHaubitze2000. best haubitze.
Of course your army has many more tanks , more planes, more soldiers and more ships than us.
But if you would bomb france, there wouldnt only be germany and france. there would be russia too for example.
the worls would be against you, and your imperialistic country would loose.
But i dont think that you would attack france, because your bush knows what wouls happen(!!).

Es lebe Europa, vivre l`europe, europe rulez!

Awesome, we have French Dude back! And a new German pig, Sturm!!! Thank you gentlemen for writing to defend your inferior, pathetic countries. First of all Sturm, France is not ready to resist anything as they already succumed twice to your sad excuse for a country. However, Sturm, at least the East and west sections of Germany are now united into one lop of old Europe shit. My theory is that all incompetent assholes should stick together. That way, the US can more efficiently show you who is truly superior. You Germans like efficiency, so you should be pleased that we can handle you as such. Stop griping about American imperialism and accept the fact that you are inferior. Knee to the master, the United States. The weapons of your shit eating vaterland are useless compared to the American arsenal and technology. Your soldiers are too incompetent to use your technology, your politicians too stupid to properly employ them. which I admit, is fairly good. However, I would expect nothing else from a country whose main export over the past hundred years has been war and racism. But, you must also see that another main export has been losing to the United States in two sucessive wars..we would be more than happy to beat you a third time. I can't really address France's threatened "resistance" in your message as it impossible that the French could mount a resistance to anything. However, at least the old Germany showed some spirit in the past even though they are currently a disorganized, confused and childish nation that had all of its glory,pride and testicles stripped away by its American superiors. So I will address your threat of resistance...you are a part of a useless group of nations of an "old europe" that will be phased out by the American's imperialism. But thank you for wiriting..I love telling the scum of old europe how pathetic they are..So I entreat you and French dude to continue writing and invite more of your countrymen to join in the hate..I don't like this hide and seek passive-agressive horsehit you and France have been giving the US for the past 50 years. I want to declare you as official enemies so we can settle this the American way. Churchill, where are you? I enjoyed your anti-French sentiments..please come back

French dude...the Americans are already boycotting travel to your pisshole of a nation and boycotting your wine and food products..you will lose much more than we did. But I thank you for illustrating one crucial fact about Americans losing their jobs..Americans did the firing of Americans, not the French..One more example of your impotence when it comes to control over the American people. Now as for Americans putting a nice dent in the French economy, this is because of Americans having control over the French...As for American weapons manufacturing within France, I think that's brilliant..we will save on transport costs when you cowards finally get the nerve to face us like warriors..We are waiting for you to make the first move..like a gentleman stated earlier, we cannot attack the French..it would be like kicking a beggar.

Hello PISS ON CHIRAC !

How are you my friend ? You say that Americans are going to boycott our food and wines ? Then we will boycott all the best American food : hamburgers, cheeseburgers, Coca-cola... Anyway only a few people are involved in wine and cheese businesses in France, compared to the others businesses.
The German guy called Sturm said that Europ can beat the USA ! I think he's a little bit optimistic ! The USA can easily destroy us. But don't be affraid, it will never happen. The USA need Europ and Europ needs the USA. Europ is a very important market for the USA. Everybody knows that.
US Republican Jim Saxton said that all the American Aerospace Companies must boycott Paris Air Show, next June, which is the biggest air show in the world. But he realized that it was a dumb idea because leave all the Aerospace European Companies alone on the market and would hurt the Americna companies. You'll have all these inforamtions on : http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/109150_air19.shtml.
This shows that the USA need Europ and in particular France. They can not boycott every thing which is France. So, don't be stupid when you say that the USA will boycott everything and will bomb France. Your politics know that.

I ve not said that europe can now beat the usa, because i know that the us army is bigger, they have much more soldiers and weapons. i have only said that our weapons are in many areas(not in all) the best in the world. thats a fact. u americans buy some of them.
But IF the usa would attack france or germany, the world wouldnt accept this and many countries would make an alliance against the usa.
u americans and british will never controll us.
Your people are stupid, your politicans are monkeys.

Bombs on Iraq, bombs on Muslims, bombs on France, bombs on Germany, Europe the whole world. We heard such words many times before. WWI WW2 WW3 WW4...How many times again, how many millions of death.
Every people once had his Hitler, Sometimes it calls Alexander, than Stalin, Napoleon,Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein. Next Hitler seems to call Bush, he already has his people and the mightiest army in the world behind his back, ready to invade the world. Will he start WW3 ? I think so.
What do you know about the world ? Did you ever go to France or meet some frenchie ? All you know about the world is what m. Murdock and his newspapers and CNN and Fox put you in your uncritical mind and et is only hate, calomnia, injury and violence. All those people that you really ignore are exactly like you, yes you who want to bomb me. There is no more difference between you and me than between you and your american brother. But all you know about me you did not know it by experience, it's only what THEY said you to think. When people dont think by themselves than politics use them to go and kill other people just like them.
That's what happened in Germany by the nazi's, that's gonna happen un the US, that's what happens each time a nation gets hegemonic and there is nobody able to stop it.
Your nation is governed by a fanatic and a fool and all the massmedia are brainwashing you with his propaganda and his lies. You are the tool in the hand of the dictator.
Old Europe remembers what happened 50 years ago. Another fool wanted to rule the world and exterminate all those wo did not think or look like him. Americans liberated us from this fool and many lost her lives. Thanks to them we are living in peace today. Once we hated,now we are friends. Should we stay ennemy's becouse of the faults of our parents ?
Today a poll showed 78 % of french consider Americans as their friends and 86 % is opposed to American politic in the Middle-East.
Must we agee with our friends when they are going to commit a crime for the reason that once they saved our lives. Must we stay the ennemies of Germans because once their fathers killed ours ?
Its our duty to say you you are wrong. Open up your eyes, be free, free to THINK and be sure we are your friends.

Hi you Aaerican Imperialsist, here is another guy from good old europe to kick in your damned american asses. If you think you should bomb France than try it, I think your damned president will try this next after Irak. But then whole of Europe will stand against you, and Rssia and China will be with us. And if you want to boykott our products then try it! With what guns are you bullshit Abrams tanks are going to fire then? And what are youn going to do when you havent got any more optics for your weapons because they are all made bei "Zeiss" And from where are you going to get all the good cars?
Another fact is, that your economy isnt very good at the moment. You've got a lot of guilts and in some years you will not be able to pay for your damned military. And Europe will stand closer together then, to defend our culture against the americanism. Long live Europe!
So long guys

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Wir rollen in die Zukunft...
We are rolling into the future...

Hello, Sturm my fiendish German adversary and heelo to my new one Rommel... Good to argue with you again! First of all Strom&Rommel, Germany's cars are highly overrated and overpriced. I have never bought one and never will. Japan makes the best cars. Second, Zeiss optics are average and there are plenty of American companies who make just as good if not better. We no longer need to give you charity for your products(which we have been doing), our technology has always been superior and we can remain completely self-sufficient if necessary. We do not need Europe, we never will. We do not care if you stand against us as you have been doing it all along. You envy what you cannot and will never attain. You have always been against us and the US has had enough of you parasites. We alienate you, Europe folds. You are nothing without us. So don't be stupid and confuse your envy with delusions of possessing superior technology that the US can't live without. WE CAN live without you. I believe your petty, sqabbling governments are too disorganized, lacking in intelligence, and incompetent to unite against anything, especially the United States. You are all rebellious little children that the US must take care of and occasionally scold. Bourgogne does make an excellent point that the hate need not be carried over from our ancestors. It most certainly does not. But you Europeans need to understand that the United States was ATTACKED..not our military installations, but our innocent civilains. Saddam did contribute to the problem, and although the French and Germans are accustomed to surrendering and losing, the United States is not. That is why we are such a strong country, and that is why we are going after Iraq. The French and certainly Germans should stay out of it. We do not need your support and certainly will not accept your condemnation..especially from FRANCE. French dude, your people cannot boycott McDonald;s and coke because 1)They are too slovenly and do not have the discipline and 2)Because you are too busy trying to be Americans and emulate our style.
And Rommel, hopefully you are a descendant of the real "desert fox" Rommel whose ass we kicked off the planetin WWII. Some superior tank technology! You were outsmarted and outperformed. Your economy has been shit since you renunited with the other asscheek(East Gemany) You were correct in thinking that two asscheeks(East and West) makes a complete asshole(United germany, but incorrect in thinking it would actually do any good for your economy. You cannot stand against Americanism..you will be assimilated! Down with old Europe, the ancient, primitive monkeys!

Uhh... guys... this is getting kinda silly now...

no, no, no. y'all can't bomb france...not until i burn paris to the ground. see, i promised that if the french attitude towards policy cost even ONE american life, either at home or abroad, i would tear paris down brick by friggin' brick. let them hurt for a change. then we can drink their wine, eat their cheese, and piss on their pathetic little welfare state (hey, frenchie, when have you ever had to worry about NOT having something?). please, everyone, join me in the destruction. then we can bomb the crap out of them....but first i have this promise to keep.

That's right that France has provided support to Saddam Hussein and his project of nuclear weapon. But I've got a question : We will attack Iraq because we think that this country is a threat for the rest of the world and it's supposed to have some mass destruction weapons. In the same time, we know that North Korea has REALLY some MDW and in particular nuclear missiles. North Korea has CLEARLY threatened the USA. So, everybody knows that North Korea is REALLY a threat for the world and our country. And in this case, we prefer a diplomatic solution. Not an attack. Why a such contradiction ?

An answer to Mary: Among other reasons, because North Korea can turn Seoul into rubble with its artillery, or into ashes with its nukes, within a matter of hours. We'd prefer not to be in a similar position with respect to Iraq.

Chiraq, by contrast, is fine with the Iraqi threat because it's helpful to his dreams of European empire and his goal of keeping the United States manacled, and because his country has a lucrative trade relationship with Saddam Hussein's dictatorship.

Hi guys, I think you're all frightened that europe could build an alliance against you, and that your shitty country will go down in flames. You were only strong in the times of the cold war, because there was a real enemy. With the end of the soviets your country has lost its sens. You'll not stay a powerful country because the european economy is much better than the american. And where are you going to sell your products when China and Russia are on our side? Only this "Arschkriecher" Spain and Poland are at your side at the moment.
By the way, Erwin Rommel was the best Commander the world has ever seen, and he hunted the British trough whole North Africa although the British had much more soldiers and tanks. If he would have had the same number of material he would have burned them.
Es grüßt der Wüstenfuchs Erwin Rommel

..... ok it's getting VERY silly now......

damn nazis and communists posting in my american redneck forums

just plain and simple - screw you frogs

Your shit american with its low american quality has displaced my symbols of my tank.
Now it dont look like a Panzer IV, it looks like a "Nashorn". And you are guilty! American bastard!
Naja. I think Rommel is right and your pants are voll of schit! Europe will be ze new Power with our russian camerades. You will see.
Altes Europa --- Voran!
Old Europe --- Charge!

Die Zukunft gehört uns...

welcome back french dude!!! it is great to see some more european contributors to the forum. Now I will dispense with the pleasantries and get down to business. Rommel, your defense of Erwin is laced with "ifs". Fact: he was wiped out. Results speak.Sturm, I particularly enjoyed your statement about how the world would not stand for an attack on Germany and France. It is comical to see these nations hiding behind the might of the rest of the world because they are such weaklings they cannot defend themselves. French dude, yes, europe is an important market for the US! What better way to corner a market than to conquer and enslave it! Question to the German people on this site: Is shit eating something exclusive to german city dwellers, or is it epidemic in the countryside as well?

You people are getting to worked up here. French Dude, how about we bomb france for profit. We can take advantage of all the current hatred and sell bombing missions for say $50,000 per sortie. I have just opened a corporation called Bomb France Superstore and will open the first outlet in Atlanta this month. So far, we have cooperation from all U.S. Air Force divisions who have agreed to training missions over France with a paying passenger. B2 flights have been arranged but require a fitness test since the flight takes 32 hours. I will post our web address later this week. We are sold out for the first 10,000 sorties but that will only take a week, so come sign up.

lethe, foo, redneck and Bomb France for profi..glad to have you with US..Marty, you are a putz, get lost. Sturm, Rommel got his ass kicked by the US..enough of your "ifs"..typical old european whining bullshit...By the way, Spain and Portugal are superior to you as well..boy that must hurt! We are begging you to form an official alliance against us..we need to settle this..perhaps France is slowing you down due to their habit of preemptive surrendering...I suggest you get rid of them as they are only a fungus on the testicles of the world..And what kind of country has "Die" used for so common a word as "the"..you primitives..however, given the events of the past 50 years or so I demand that the new German word for "the" be "surrender" or "we lost and are inferior to the United States, our overlords and masters"..by the way when we do finsih with you we will make it a point to put a Jewish American and an African American in charge of Aryan slave driving.
Altes Europa-cowards
Altes Europa-shit eaters
Altes Europa-Puppets and slaves to the US
P.S. Thanks for writing back and expressing your views to this forum. Please continue.

Hey Sturm&Rommel, you guys write and comprehend pretty good English for a bunch of German primitives..perhaps you should consider making it the main language of the vaterland.
Yours in international hate,
-Chirac
P.S. Do you have your Chancellor's email?..i'd like to write him and tell him he sucks.

Actually, we did bomb France once long after WWII. Remember, technically, an embassy, despite being located within foreign soil, is still considered part of the sovereign territory of its parent state. As such, we bombed France during the air raids on Libya under Reagan. And we loved it.

OY ROMMEL! MONTY KICKED UR ARSE!. AND HE KICKED IT AGAIN IN NORTHERN FRANCE!. If you guys were so amazing, How did u manage to fuck up the russian campaign? YOU WERE WINNING AND FORGOT ABOUT THAT LITTLE THING CALLED WINTER! UR SMELLY BLITZKRIEG TACTICS are crap in long run coz ur supply routes couldnt keep up. that is why we won. P.S. THE ROYAL AIR FORCE AND THE NAVY KICKED UR ARSE COZ WE (BRITAIN) INVENTED RADAR AND SONAR.

P.S REMEBER TOBRUK! we were out numbered there and managed to hold on. Rommel didnt hunt us down. We fooled you into thinking our army was in the north instead of the south (not south of africa), due to some yet more creative genius on a british inventors part,of creating a fake army. you guys even had a 15 year head start in preparing for war, we were still in a depression, and manageed to put up a fight and eventually with America's help WIN!

AND ANOTHER THING ROMMEL! we had the biggest empire ever! Your attempts at empire building were nothing compared to us!, in fact i think your empire only ever consisted of germany, and an island in south east asia that had a 2 mile radius.

Hi Curchill. Rommel had the best tractics and he only lost because he didn' get enough material. And Monty was an stupid Idiot, remember "Market Garden", wasn't it a brilliant move of Monty?
And, by the way without the Americans we would have easily defeated the British. And now your damned Tony Blair is doing everything what this stupid idiot George "dabbeljuh" Bush says, becuase they know that they are a little helpless country without the Americans.´
PS: I would do the same thing if I had Schröders email because i also hate this idiot. But don't be frightenes you Americans are still the first objekt of my hate :)

That was my post

It seems to me that there are a couple of sissy assed snivelers in here that need desperately to be bitch slapped back to reality then shoved back into the prone position where you can do the world the most good. You know who you are.

A) This is a discussion about how cool it would be to bomb France. And that's pretty cool.

B) This ain't a discussion about if we should or not. The answer is obvious to everyone except those who so desperately need it.

C) This ain't a discussion about how fuckin Rommel got his ass kicked. It doesn't fuckin matter, he ain't shit now.

There now, that said maybe this could get back to thinking up cool new ways to bomb France. I hope we could bomb a few cheese factories, it just sounds like fun. How about getting some bi-planes to commemorate the Lafayette Escadrille. They could fly low through the streets of France throwing out hand grenades and shooting out windows with pistols. I think I’m on to something with this one.

For those of you who disagree with this position, you bitch and whine now but it's only for your own good and you'll be grateful when we've done it.

Chevys Rule.

You amerikans say that there are no "Ifs" and that germany had lost ze war. I say(no, i know)
that the german Wehrmacht was ze best army, it had ze best quality. You say that its a fact that we have lost the war. right. But u americans were NOT the main reason for our defeat. I give u some facts about the looses and u will see that russia was the main reason.
The germans had lost nearly 3.000.000 soldiers at the eastern front against the red army.
"Only" fewer that 300.000 died at the western front against ze westallies.
That shows that the red army had beaten the most of the german troops, and not british, canadians, americans, australians or sonstwer.
The red army lost at the east front abot 10.000.000 soldiers.
the reason for the german defeat was not the great quality of the german army. the reason was, that germany stand alone in a war against the rest of the world, and nobody have ever won such a war and will ever win. at first there were all the european countries like france, poland, belgium, nederland, greece ect.
than there were russia, the biggest of the enemies. and there were britain, the usa, canada, australia, new seeland, commonwealth countries ect..
all these countries togheter can built more tanks, can spend much more soldiers for a war, that logic.
But now back to the superiotity in quality(not in masses) of the german armee.
We had the best weapons, the best tanks, the best soldiers and the best technology in this time.
Our Tigertanks, or our Panther-Tanks were much better than your weak shermans. In technologie we had a good rocket technik (V1,V2).After the war you americans had take the german sciences, like Werner von Braun, with u to steal our techniks. After the war you americans were the first who asked our generals and commanders how they reached it, that the german soldiers had such a good discipline and war spirit.
An other example for the german technologie: the first jet plane, the Me262, was a german product. Afteer the war u steal that technologie,too.
Our soldiers were better trained, better disciplinated and more experianced their enemies.
the german generals showed in the Blitzkrieg, that they were genial. By the way your Patton was an incompetent,arrogant,stupid monkey.
Do you know the pilots and the tank commanders with the best score in the war.
its a FACT that they are germans. Michael Wittmann,the best tank commander, had shooted 138 enemy tanks and 132 at-guns in the war.
Ernst Barkmann tankcommander.Jochen Peiper,commandeur Panzerregiment "Leibstandarte".
Hans Rudel, Stuka-Pilot. He had destroyed 519 tanks, 1 ballteship, 1 destroyer,70 landingboats,
800 vehicles and 150 artillery positions, that all in 2530 raids with his Sturz-Kampf-Bomber.
Hans Joachim Marseille,158 airwins.Erich Rudorrfer,222 airwins.Wilhelm Batz 237 kills.
Gunther Rall:275 airwins.Gerhard Barkhorn had destroyed 301 enemy planes. Erich Hartmann, the must successfull hunterpilot the worldwar have seen with 352 destroyes enemies.
Where are ze americans?
And that the germans had the best tanks is a fact too.
By the way, the american soldiers were very unexperienced when they entered the war. The soldiers were frightened, undisciplined and incompetent(of course there were exeptions).
But the best quality had the germans. If u deny that, u have not much presentiment of this time of history...
But thats history.the presence and the future is differently,and thats good. Our old enemies, the french, the russians, the belgiums(...) are our allies and friends now. We will be strong and successful in the future.
PS: Italian dude,u are an italian bastard.
What about your shit eating? U are ridiculous.
U are nothing.

Der Sieg wird unser sein!
Altes Europa-Neue Ordnung!

hmmm, if we bombed cheese factories, we could have toasted cheese (alternately, baked brie).... that sounds tasty! sign me up!!

Sturm, your name just reminds me of a big peice of frenchman poop... just a big blob of it you and you ze's and you u's. Go home and shave your shoulders. Remember, your next on the list after france :)

PS: you should seriously get that website up!

It's really a shame i didn't find this site earlier :( bummer

Sturm, you have laid out a very comprehensive and convincing argument outlining all of the things the germans did both in quality, and in quantity. You did, however, omit one area the germans excelled in during this campaigne. STUPIDITY!!! You said it yourself "Nobody could ever win such a war". What kind of ignorant, shit eating group of primates would try to take over the world knowing they could not possibly win?? Twice!!!! Additionally, if they actually thought they could win, then they are even more fucking stupid!!! So, Strom, for all of the great things your german army did in their RATHER UNSUCCESSFUL bid at world conquest, the fact remains that it WAS UNSUCCESSFUL, and their is no pride in defeat. Look at germany today! It is as disgraceful as france ( well, ok not quite that bad). Do you even have an army anymore? If so, why bother, unless you plan to take yet another stab at becoming the rulers of the human race. Nobody would ever want your country now, mainly because it is largely populated by, well, germans. Of course, if we were to do away with the general population, we could turn the country into a giant septic field.. Fitting, considering the chief passtime in your country.

Sturm, don't even try to deny it. You know perfectly well that german people have made an artform of shitting in each others mouths. We see the videos. We know more than you think, brown boy. You might wipe off your brown mustache before you go out, but that does not mean you can deny what you do. Hey, be proud of it. It is the cool thing to do now in your part of Old Europe. You guys have got to stand for something, and it sure ain't millitary victories.

Capnken, I applaud your continued hatred of France but you must also realize that the German shit-eaters are our enemies as well. The fact that we get to bash both on one website is German-like in its efficiency, and the highlight of my day(or evening, depending on when I sign on). I must remind Rommel that the Germans were inferior on the tank front and Patton made the Germans his bitches...your stupidity in Russia was a big mistake but it was the United States who came into Germany, bombed it to shit and freed all the prisoners you were trying to eradicate. The best part is your beloved vaterland was divided up like a wothless piece of cake(please remember the two asscheeks analogy..the asshole that is your country had its cheeks spread and separated) and the United States built military bases on your own soil. We have maintained military superiority on your soil since the 1940's..How great is that...we are still there! Where are your beloved disciplined, elite soldiers and tanks..our elite soldiers and tanks are on your soil and the elite soldiers are laying pipe with the hairy German women to try to improve the bloodline...Rommel, I ask you to join me in hating the French...it is so easy, don't stay with them just because they gave you your only military victories in the 20th century. You must realize what trash they are. Join the anti-French movement and give Germany some sense of worth, no matter how little..if not you may kiss the american ass, not on zis side, not on zat side but right in ze middle!
P.S. Thank you for replying and maintaining the lines of communication. Please continue to be our pen pal.

Wait, I forgot to mention I hate the French.. I must state this daily despite the German distraction. Hello to our new France hater, "thebrick"..welcome aboard. I would also like to welcome back our good friend Churchill who disgust for the French rivals my own. I love your rants man! Keep up the splendid work. The fact that old europe is even considering France to be the leader of anything gives me much amusement. It is as ridiculous as a porn star trying to reclaim her virginity..it just is unfeasable. But it makes me laugh..just as the French always have!

America is such a great country! I was thinking how can the french stand themselves? I mean there's the rude manners the stench and the raving germans who are on their side. What is the french suicide rate I wouldn't be surprised if it was quite high.

whatever happened to french dude...Suicide?

lol, you know, you Americans are in a similar position as the Germans in world war 2. You have an ignorant stupid, intolerant and agressive "Fuhrer". The citizens are totally influenced by the propaganda of your medias, you are standig quite alone against the whole of the rest of the world. The British are your only allies. The damned Italians are a bunch of cowards, they will change the side if it goes hard on hard ---> WW2 . And you also going to start an atack war. At the moment you also have the largest and best equiped army, but the germans had this too in second world war. You see, you are in a very similar position as the "Großeutsches Reich".
And Piss on Cihirac, thank you for that offer, but Uncle Sam will not be able to burn away my mind as he has done it allready with yours it seems :)
So long guys

Italian Dude,

In one of your previous messages, you said that US Aerospace Companies "conquer and enslave" the European Market.
If we are objective and honest, we can say that :
- US Companies are the leaders on military aircrafts and have a technological advance (F/A-22, F-35, B2, F117, Comanche, V-22...) compared to Europe.
But Europe is the world leader on :
- Commercial aircrafts with Airbus (France/Germany/England/Spain) with 52% of the market in 2001 and 54% in 2002.
- Helicopters with Eurocopter (France/Germany) with 51% in 2001 and 60% in 2002.
- Satellite launcher with Arianespace (France/Germany...) with 50%.
These are the official results.
It will be dishonest and stupid to say that European Aircrafts are shit. Because US airlines have ordered hundreds of Airbuses. US Border Patrol and California Highway Patrol have also ordered tens of Eurocopters.
So, you are not right when you say that US Aerospace companies have conquered and enslaved the European market.
Our companies have to fight very hard against Airbus, Eurocopter and Arianespace. But let's cross fingers, will be the first again one day !
God bless America !

Vivre la France!Es lebe Deutschland!Es lebe Europa! Europe rulez!
You amerikans are envious of our culture, of our quality. You havent a culture. Perhaps a mcDonalds culture for your typical fat, horrible amis,but not a "Real" culture.
U cant akcept that we are ze better peoples.
The monkeys who founded your shit countrie were the idiots of ze high european society.
Only zeshit of ze european volks.
@ Piss on__ : I would neverr join your ridiculous antifrench movement. La France ist much better than your country. And la France and I are still waiting for your Bombardement(:D). Ja, i`m really looking forward to it. Our FLAKS will be loaded...
@ Italian dude:
You are typical for your country.
You are a traitor, not worthy to be a real european. Your countrie is a champion in treason.
You have often showed that u have no discipline and no moral.
I think zat your country have a really nice countrieside, and many friendly peoples. But u, italian dude, are nothing. U will never be anythink. And if your country will continue with zis politic, your country will never be a strong country. Your shit eating Schwachsinn ist ridiculous,too.

FESTUNG EUROPA: Der Westwall hält!

The anti-americans are arising.

I admit though we do resemble the german's position (we could take out almost all of europe) but we don't have a hitler. You can say Bush resembles him but you'd be wrong and id hack you hunt you and burn you at the stake.

I was thinkin' that after we bomb france we can send all the mexican immigrants there. It's dirty in france and Mexicans which I respect are dirty as well. We could give the canadians mexico too b/c they're good neighboors. We could mix and atch ya know.

Thebrick,

You say that France is dirty ? Do you know that an American citizen generates 1589 lb of wastes every year ? And a French... 1059 lb ?

I really hate statistics but i will combat you with them, do you know the average frenchman uses two bars of soap a year?

that is all

are you in support of the frrench? I assume you are an american b/c you use the name of a JackAss character (an american show) and yet you call yourself dirty. This can only be the highest act of treason... i detest you good sir.

Thebrick,

Every year, I spend 4 months in France for my job. I just wanna say that what we hear and see (on TV, radio...) about France and French is different from what we really see when we are in France and when you know them.
It's the same in France. What they hear and see about us is different from reallity.
Only "cliché" !!

TheBrick: You are geisteskrank. We say that in my german vaterland for peoples whose
brain ist ill and broken. But dont be affraid, you are not alone with zis problem hier.
Italian dude,par example, have zis prob too.

Vivre la France, es lebe Deutschland.
FESTUNG EUROPA!

All this talk of 'Old Europe', and military victories and losses is getting old.

Auch, sprechen Sie bitte annemhbares Englisch.

Deine 'k' = Unser 'c'... Manchmal hehe
Es gibt kein 't' im 'is'

Also, this is too complex for me to express in my limited German, but...

Geistekrank... Our spirits are not sick, our spirit remains strong. Our love of freedom and our hard-won liberties remains paramount.

Erinnern Sie sich an das.

Dieser Haß ist, auf beiden Seiten traurig.
Können wir zustimmen über deises?

I am all for bombing France, but I would like to correct the people who accused them of smelling bad and not bathing. They actually are becoming more Americanized, and they have began bathing, and some of the women are even starting to shave their armpits. However,I went to France this summer, and met a total of 5 people I wouldn't like to kill, and two were lesbians. Walking down the streets France I heard it all. "You American girl? You want to go in back with me?"
For some reason the pricks are dellusional enough to think that an american woman would stoop to the level of having sex with a French man. Over all I found the French to be stuck up, inconciderate, and for some reason they think the entire world should be learning their language instead of ours, even though American is the number one nation in the world. And by the way, their keyboards are all messed up. Oh, and the guys walk like girls. I was walking around with my American friend Scott, and I remember quite fondly him yelling, "No wonder you guys lost all your wars, you all walk like sissies." I almost thought we may witness male hissy fits.

alright, maybe I'm being a bit too harsh, but I want some real proof I want some decent right wingers who have visited france to voice a positive opinion... and I'll be honest I am stereotyping b/c I have never been to France. (But I can smell them from here)[couldn't resist]There's just something about them that seems to get under my skin. I have met many a french person.
I liked Germany a good amount until I listened to sturm, he oppitimizes everything I dislike in a person.

Realize the fact that the French are not just dirty in the physical sense but their dirtiness comes through in how slimy and rude they are. How many other ways can i describe them with, underhanded, seedy, smelly, creepy, stuck up, disrepectful, cowardly, uneducated...etc.

so when is this website going to be up?

my new months resolution is to be less mean so I had to get it all out before march...

"Down with eurotrash", you must have spent a LONG time in france to actually find 5 people you did not want to kill. Are you sure some of them were not really the same person? Awesome rant! Sturm, although it was european, your rants are a pleasure to read as well. I will grant you that Italy does not have an impressive millitary history, but hey, we can always beat france! We also do not have delusionary aspirations of world domination, as do the germans, so I suppose we do not spend enough time and energy on the armed forces. Also, we do not practice widespread consumption of each others feces, as do the germans. Hey, I resent your labeling the entire continent " FESTERING EUROPA". The only festering sewer we have all agreed upon is france. lol. Johnny, your statistics regarding waste production may be accurate, the difference being that American Citizens actually DISPOSE of their waste.
Sturm, although I feel it my duty to state the sometimes ugly truth about the german people, I value your imput. Your other pen pal, Italian Dude.

"the Brick", you can't leave, your proclamations about the filthy French and fallen German empire are most appreciated. I have found a loophole in your resolution to not be mean...insulting the French(and even the Germans who are most inferior and house our airbases and soldiers on their neatly Americanized soil), is a sacred event. You are doing the USA, Britain and the rest of the world an enormous favor by spreading disdain for France(and the inferior Germans who remain the involuntary host for our military). It is a perfectly normal thing to take out the trash..thus, you are actually doing a good thing by insulting France(and the inferior Germans whose country we neatly divided after WWII). It would be mean not to insult the French(and inferior Germans whose country was passed around like a drunk hooker at a fraternity party). So, please don't leave us.
Frolein Rommel, your last words indicated that you might not return to write again. That would be most unfortunate. We are pen pals(or pen enemies, but either way I appreciate your input). You must not leave.
Ahabdelta, which side are you on anyway, please choose.
Sturm, you must remain on the site as well. I know you are in denial about the shit eating aspects of the German people and are most irritated by Italian Dude's comments about the vaterland's national pasttime. Look, shit eating is nothing to be proud of, but at least you are not French. I still think you should join America in hating the French. I know deep down you don't like them and that the urge to come to our side is almost as appealing as the vaterland's pastime(shit eating) so climb aboard.
One last thing, if Bush were truly like Hitler you Germans would love him as you gravitate to maniacal leaders who make foolish attemps to take over the world. Thus, you can't argue with such irrefutable logic. Also, why don't you guys like Schroeder or Schraeder(however you spell his name..persoannly, I dont' care as his name is not that important to remember..he is just another useless puppet leader in a country subjugated to the mighty US. I know he ran on an Anti-American platform, so you gents should love him. Why the dislike of this puppet of the mighty vaterland? Stay in touch and please remember that there is still hope for you because you are not French..you can still turn from the darkside and join us in our disdain for ze France..

Lethe, where are you? I miss you anti-French sentiments and I was also most displeased to learn that French Dude has not written today. French dude, your friends from the mighty vaterland are waiting for you..you are not being a team player..certainly being a team player and standing up to bullies like us are inherent in the French genetic code..perhaps you are hiding underground in fear of an anticipated invasion. Knoxville, the French may produce less waste but the difference is that they wallow in it, while we dispose of it properly and send it to Mexico.

Piss on Chirac, I must disappoint you, ze german resistance will stay forever in zis forum to fight against your impeialist plans of conquering the whole world. Although I wasn't in America yet I've found many people I would like to bomb zere, especially in the White House. :D
PS: We only like our own "Fuhrers"

Oh Erwin, you do not dissapoint us. You provide comic releif with your foolish antics. :) and i'd love to see you try to bomb us... :) We dont want to conquer the world we just want to rid the world of evil. If that means destroy the world then we'll do what we gotta do.

@Ahabdelta.
1.I speak "annehmbares"englisch.
I have only ze german akzent, and you must akzept zat. By ze way, please imagine zat i`m rrrolling ze r.
2. Sorry, but u have faild ze right meaning of ze word "geisteskrank". It means not, zat your spirit is wrong. i dont know ze englisch word for it. its a word for peoples who have a low intelligence, like italian dude or like thebrick.
Sorry, i dont want to offend peoples who are ill.
3. I dont want to bomb ze "normal" american peoples. I dont hate every amerikan. I hate only zose like bush, and i hate peoples who support him. And i hate ze amerikan politics of ze last 50 years.
In zis forum i want protect my vaterland and europe against ze imperialistic monkeys, who want "bomb" us.Ze aggressions are not from us europeans, ze amerikans in zis forum want to bomb us.
And i want show zat europe is ze Zentrum of culture and zat we will be stronger and stronger in future.

Ich bin stolz, Mitglied des alten Europas zu sein.

Dont forget Vichy french bombed American and British forces landing in Algeria during WWII. No fate is too horrible for whining, backstabbing, cowards. Before too long France will be run by Muslims anyway, then we can destroy France and the worlds biggest steel buttplug. I say level France and use it as a testing gound for American chain restaurants, and boxed wine factories.

Rider: Europe, your time has come and gone.
Its time to realize your socialist policies only work when there is a third party (US) defending them. Without US protection your continent would have been overrun multiple times with unknown casualties. You would probably gone back to monarchies and again believe that your kings are descendents of God. Europe has never produced a productive
parlimentary government. Bow to your American masters

What if we give back the Statue of Liberty to France, and build our own? We could always hide a few bombs in it, set to detonate at the sound of little Frenchies shaking their fists at Americans.

Anyone remember the Maginot Line, where France's best engineers during the WWII days, after spending most of France's entire military budget on it, built huge, FIXED gun emplacements after WWI, encased in thick concrete underground pill boxes, which could only fire in one direction, at Germany? After the Germans figured this out and caught their breath after laughing hysterically for days and days about it, they simply invaded France through Belgium, in which the French had not thought of and could not turn their guns to fire in the direction of Belgium.

And then there was Dien Bien Phu, a fort the French built in North Vietnam prior to America's involvement there, which was supposed to be impregnable also, but was taken in a few weeks by the rice farmers of Vietnam in 1954. The French were real pissed that America didn't send its bombers to help the French with that, seeing how the French couldn't get enough of its own 'men' to defend its own interests. A lot of the fighters for the French weren't even French, but were members of the infamous French Foreign Legion. Seems like France has always relied on others outside of its country to either do its fighting or its liberating for them.

Yep, I say take down the French-given Statue of Liberty and put up an American woman to hold the torch.

Oh, and of course bomb the French, afterwards.

you are made of european seed. We built your fucking country, and now you want to destroy your ancestors. "Bowling for Columbine" shows the truth what has become of the former european!

No, west, if French ancestors had built our country, we'd have gun emplacements that only could fire in one direction, our women would be walking around with hairy armpits, and we'd have tall, hollow, worthless buildings in the shape of the Eiffel Tower.

Oh, and no snail or pigeon would be safe around dinner time.

Sturm dammit, the word is American, spelled with a "c" not a "k". You silly Germans always have to put a "k" in lieu of a "c". Actually, there is one most excellent thing that came out of Germany(from Hanneford) and that is the rock band Scorpions. Of course, they prefer America and became americanized and all their lyrics are in American/English format. Nonetheless, I must credit your nation with producing somthing good.

West, you most certainly did not build our country. Our country was built by those who rejected the sewer that is old europe, who did not fit in, who did not want to fit in. That is a most important correction.

grrr somebody needs to get the website goin i dont have the capabilities or i'd do it.. let me know thanx

im all for sending back ms. liberty i bet our's would be ten times better... and we could use a metal that wouldn't warp colors!

richard levy sez: you stooopid turds! Can't you see that France is saving our lame-asses from a humiliating defeat in the desert, and even if we win, in the long term it will be defeat. One shameful quagmire, worse than viet nam. We should all kiss Chirac's behind for doing us a favor. If you armchair soldiers want to fight,
fight with me. Go ahead here's my old addy:
rlevy@icmtalent.com it expires in a couple of weeks so I don't care.

I dont like ze scorpions, zey are traitors of our wonderful german language.
I know zat u say "c" instead of a "k".
But u must akzept my akzent.
By ze way, do you know zat english belongs to ze "germanic languagegroup"? Its a fact.
U will not give ze stature of liberty back to france, because u are not able to built a better one.
PS: Turkey have refused ze amerikan soldiers.
Ze risistance against you imperialists is getting stronger and stronger...

Europe, our time will come.
Europa, Unsere Zeit wird kommen...

Rider, I think you think in the wrong direction. It is America whoose time is going. You must realize that your country is absolutely senseless without the Soviets. Your country was only strong in times when big militarys were usefull, but in the moment they are not. And that's why you are trying to build up a new enemy.
You must relize that Europes economy is much more poweful than yours and thats why your on shit places empire will go down.

the statue of liberty, by nature of being french, is a piece of shit. We should call it a "mood statue", as it seems to change color with the changing of emotions. Sturm, please. Since we are going to talk about the germanics, let us remember that they were tribes who were not opposed to living in trees and eating each other before being "cleansed" by the Roman Empire. Now, it is interesting to see that the germans' propensity for cannibalism has manifested itself in eating each others waste instead. Yes, german shit eating is indeed an evolutionary practice.

Please remember, America was not built by old europe, it was built in spite of it.

France must be made an example of. If we were to conquor this meek little nation, enslave the men, and make the women recepticals for our used desires, we would send quite a powerful message to other disrespectful weaklings,(like the vaterland). The message? " It is ok for a 90 lb. weakling to disagree, but to do so publicly will result in savage beatings the likes of which the world has never witnessed". We must go beyond the first few moments that it will take for surrender, and pillage the french countryside. We can even rename it "New Vegas", and appoint feudal lords as rulers of their given sects. We can use paris as the prison for all of New Vegas by walling it in, and depositing any resistant frogs who do not do their lord's bidding without complaint. Eventually, through sordid intercourse, we could breed the french out of existance, then turn our sights on the shit eating tribes of germania, ..er, germany. We could actually lure the germans into doing our dirty work by sending a maniac ( just pick one with a penchant for screaming his aspirations for world conquest at crowds) masquerading as a political activist. He will shortly gain a cult like following of germaniacs who he can manipulate into pretty much anything he wants. We can then spread our interests into germany, and hence rid ourselves of another world parasite. At this point, the world would be whole and good.

And they all lived happily ever after.... The End.

New Idea For the replacement of the statue of liberty: an American woman stepping on the eiffel tower!!!!

indeed, put an end to their smugness the damn traders!

Italian dude, ít were ze germanic tribes who beated ze Roman Empire. Do u know ze "battle of ze Teuteburger Wald"? Ze Roman Elite Legions under ze roman leader Publius Varus were beaten by ze germanic "tree-tribes".
And ze germans attacked ze roman territory and destroyed ze empire.
Of course your terror-country was built by europeans( and africans). It were ze europeans who were to weak for our society.criminals, stupids,prisoners.
Your planes with France and Germany...ridiculous.
Come and try it.

Old Europe - New Order
Altes Europa - Neue Ordnung
Vieille Europe- Nouvelle ordre

Zur Schlacht am Teuteburger Wald:

"So ein Jammer! Was für eine Karriere hätte ich noch vor mir gehabt! Diese Wilden haben mich ruiniert!" Kopfschüttelnd nahm Publius Varus noch einen tiefen Schluck Wein aus einem goldenen Becher. Dann stürzte er sich in sein eigenes Schwert. "Er war immer so lieb zu mir!" schluchzte die bildschöne Sklavin Lydia (19). Tränenüberströmt brach sie über der Leiche zusammen. Ringsum Leichen. Blut.
Unterdessen wird im Zelt des Siegers Arminius (31), gefeiert. Met fließt in Strömen - Wildschweinbraten. Der Held des Tages läßt sich feiern. Die schönsten Cheruskerinnen drängen sich um ihn. Alle wollen ihn küssen. Thusnelda (24), seine Frau, stört das nicht! "Ich bin so stolz auf meinen Hermann!"

"New Idea For the replacement of the statue of liberty: an American woman stepping on the eiffel tower!!!!"

I can go one better than that: An American woman taking a bite out of the Eiffel Tower, and crapping it out her backside.

Hi all, good news, Bomb France shirts are now available from www.warshirts.com, thank God. If enough people wear these shirts the idea will become popular enough to at last bomb this stupid little province right straight to Hell. Then maybe we could move on to doing something about Germany. The US plan to water down the German gene pool with US GI's isn't working fast enough, mainly because they haven't prevented the GI's from bringing thier sluts home. I can proudly say my father spent 5 years inseminating and of course sodomizing the eager nazi sluts, then came home like a good boy and got a real wife. Maybe there should be a requirement for US troops to leave offspring behind like in VietNam. Since bombing France, like thier allies Iraq, has become a forgone conclusion, maybe it's time to turn this discussion to a "final solution" for Germany.

Keep up the good work men. As you were.

Another idea for ze replacement of ze statue:
A german woman burning ze amerikan flag with a flamethrower.

Sturms idea sounds really good, but I think we should build that statue in Germany or France because it sounds really stupid to build a "Statue of Liberty" America where the freedom is kicked in the ass at the moment

"Another idea for ze replacement of ze statue:
A german woman burning ze amerikan flag with a flamethrower."

Now why would America, who kicked Germany's ass TWICE in two world wars, ever allow a statue like that? That sounds more like what the French would do, or what a group of twice defeated people would do who can't do anything else to America.

And what happened to German efficiency, anyway? I mean why would someone need a "flame-thrower" to burn a flag? Haven't you Germans ever heard of a Bic lighter? Maybe this sheds light as to why the German panzers ran out of fuel during the Battle of the Bulge. Perhaps they shouldn't have used flame throwers so trivially.

And we're supposed to believe that Germans are the "master race," after that idea?

Master fuel wasters, maybe.

Maybe we should first bomb France with dumb Germans, for starters.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...

A flamethrower looks better,stronger(more german)
as a little lighter.
If zat with ze "battle of bulbe" should be a joke, its a bad one.
Our fine Flammenwerfer were surely not ze reason for our lack of fuel.
In zis time ze russians had captured ze oilsources in romania,estland and poland.
Zat was ze reason. Bad informed, he?
For ze replacement of ze statue of "liberty"(?!)
i would still prefer ze german woman with ze flamethrower, but if u dont want zis, i have another suggestion:
A vietnamese woman burning ze amerikan flag.
Wat about zis?

Europa: Alte und neue Stärke.

Though true that America was settled by Europeans (predominantly) it was only those Europeans who had the strength and brains to leave and go some place better. Now America is one of the strongest countries on the planet (unlike any of those countries we left.)
Sure, we have violence here. That's how we weed out the morons, weaklings, and socialists. Perhaps europe could use more liberal gun laws. This leads to a solution to the german problem, give them all guns. Let them run around shooting at everyone for a while until Darwinism has had its day. Most of teh german population in non-german anyway.
Why, you may ask, would that not be a good solution for the French? Simple, they obviously don't know how to use guns. If all the french people had guns they would walk around all day with their arms up trying to surrender. I wouldn't want to smell that.
We'll have to stick with bombing france into oblivion. When finished, I like the idea of giving it to the Mexicans, but I think the Brittish want to give it to the Irish.

Though true that America was settled by Europeans (predominantly) it was only those Europeans who had the strength and brains to leave and go some place better. Now America is one of the strongest countries on the planet (unlike any of those countries we left.)
Sure, we have violence here. That's how we weed out the morons, weaklings, and socialists. Perhaps europe could use more liberal gun laws. This leads to a solution to the german problem, give them all guns. Let them run around shooting at everyone for a while until Darwinism has had its day. Most of teh german population in non-german anyway.
Why, you may ask, would that not be a good solution for the French? Simple, they obviously don't know how to use guns. If all the french people had guns they would walk around all day with their arms up trying to surrender. I wouldn't want to smell that.
We'll have to stick with bombing france into oblivion. When finished, I like the idea of giving it to the Mexicans, but I think the Brittish want to give it to the Irish.

How about a german woman eating shit as the symbol for your twisted country? who the hell was it that suggested that Rome was beaten by germania? are you confused between a battle and a war? the romans used germania as a septic dump and everybody knows it. they cleansed the country of filthy germanic primates and turned it into a somewhat civilized society, which has since degenerated into the pathetic shell it is today. I love hearing germans wax poetic about their rich millitary history. the only mistake the US made in WWII was not selling off the pieces left of the vaterland like a garage sale. those cooky helmets the nazi millitary wore could have fetched 25 cents a piece as spitoons. german flags would make great handkerchiefs, and we could have clothed the homeless with the uniforms once we cleaned all of the german blood off and stiched up the bullet holes. the tanks could have sold for $5 a piece as undependable transportation, and the guns would have made nice lamps once wired with a bulb and shade. if we sold off the remaining german people as cheap labor to sweat shop operators at $11 a pop, we could have made a good chunk of money. well, it was a missed opportunity, but hopefully we will not miss it a second time.

Bastard.

shit eater.

Napolean, you are awesome!!! sturm, eat shit. oh yeah, no need to tell you that I guess. The anti french movement is in full swing!!! We are boycotting all things french, and it is becoming stylish. Buy your Bomb France Tee shirt and get to work!!!

hey, what is the deal with german people? these are some sick individuals, with some really wierd sexual preferences. Shitting on each other is only the tip of the iceberg!!! check out any of the myriad german sex sites, and you will see what I mean.

I was glancing through the internet, and found some great examples of german culture.
First, Sturm, what the hell is a Gewinnspiel? It looks like some sort of butt-plug for germans, but I can't find a literal translation.

Next, I found a thing called the "Alternative German Dictionary", which gave some wonderful translations.These are taken word for word from this german document. Here is a sampling of the contents;

arschficker- to penetrate the ass

Arschlecker- one who licks an ass

Bierficker- literally:beerfucker. one whose penis can fit into the opening of a beer bottle

geigen- to fuck. literally means to play the violin. ?????

Hosenscheisser, der- someone who frequently shits in their pants.

weisser Bart - semen on one's chin after fellatio.

Busengrapscher, der - someone who touches a woman's breasts against their will, normally from behind. (???) in the 1980s there was a scandal when a member of the German Parliament was found to have done this to one of his female colleagues.

These are just a sampling of german culture. If you would like me to continue with gathering further samples, please speak up. I am sure there is much information on german customs and practices just waiting to be discovered.

"A vietnamese woman burning ze amerikan flag.
Wat about zis?"

What about zis? what about zis is what happened to Vietnam after Vietnamese women burned our flag. Vietnam turned into a communist shithole.

Compare the Vietnamese economy to Japan's, and see what happens when one country turns to capitalism and the other doesn't.

I think water buffalo are still plowin' the north 40 in the Ho Chi Min outskirts.

Hell, Vietnamese women are probably making American flags for the Chinese, to import to America, in order to put rice on their tables. If they even have tables.

Yea, if we made a statue of liberty of a Vietnamese woman burning the American flag, the Chinese would really be pissed at Vietnamese women and would probably nuke those rice farmers:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gallery/image/0,8543,-10304263345,00.html

Besides, I have a feeling that the next statue of liberty will be of a pregnant Mexican woman sneaking across our border with a torch in her hand to see where she is going at night across the Mojave.

@ Liberty Bob:
Ja, it were germanic tribes who caused ze Fall of ze Imperium Romanum. Have u ever heard from ze "völkerwanderung", ze migration of ze germanic tribes (ca.400 n.Chr.). Zat was the end of ze Imperium Romanum.

"Most of teh german population in non-german anyway."

Zis sentence ist totaly wrong and stupid too.
Of course we have foreign peole in our country, but normaly i have no problem with them, many are really ok.
But it not "most of tehgerman population", it ist
less zan 10 %. Again bad informed,amerikan;he?

@ Raze Versailles:
Of course zere are some idiots in our country(it are not so many zan in yours, but some are in every country). Zat are those peoples who post such thinks in ze internet.
But zat is surely NOT our wunderbare culture.
A "Gewinnspiel" is a game, where u can win a prise.
Ze word "Hosenscheisser" ist often used for(most)
of ze amerikan soldiers in World War II.

@ Italian Dude:
I hate you.

Vivre la France!
Es lege Deutschland!
E U R O P A - Es geht voran...

France and Germany, two of the world's biggest losers. France lost to Germany, and Germany lost to Uncle Sam and Cousin Union Jack, twice, and neighbor Rusky.

Didn't you Huns waste an entire army at Stalingrad? Your beloved Adolph did so because he didn't like the fact that it had Stalin's name. Imagine a nation so stupid that it wasted an entire army on trying to capture a city that was of little military importance, simply because they didn't like the name of the city. And they were calling themselves the "master race" while doing so.

Master idiots, actually.

Um, are you Germans and French trying to make the rest of the world laugh or something?

Hehe...

Why are we Germans and French, we Europeans, with our strong economy(zat will be ze strongest in ze world), with our great culture, with our fine mentality and with our wealth; with our political power, ze worlds biggest loosers?
We are strong and wonderful countries.
I have never said zat we are ze "Master race", and i have never said zat i like Adolf. I know zat he was stupid, an idiot, a Terrorist;
short: a man like your Bush.
I have only said something about the (great) quality of ze german mititary in zis times.
Ze name "Stalingrad" was not ze reason for ze retreat at ze eastern front.

Europa- Unsere Zeit wird kommen...

but sturm, I like you. Despite the fact that you are german, I actually enjoy your opinions and political musings. This site would not have been the same without you, and I hope you continue to be a part of it.

ID

wait a minute, you are saying a gewinnspiel is a game??? what the hell kinds of games do you people play??? The thing in the picture looks like a giant buttplug with bumps all over it. What is the point of this game? How does a german person, say, win this game? I am truly curious. Also, what is the deal with a word that means both fucking and playing the violin??? You guys are some sick individuals.

Hold tight, Sempter Fidelis , America will do just what you want in about a week or so. Remember, George W. is the guy who as governor of Texas received petitions from all over America, including from Pat Robertson of the 700 Club, to commute the death sentence of a gal in a Texas prison who had murdered her boyfriend with an ax, but then supposedly saw the light in prison and became a born again Christian. George W. said he was glad that she saw the light, but that she would soon be seeing the real light, because he was still going to execute her anyway.

And he did.

He didn't bow to pressure, he still executed the lady even though she had people all over the country asking George W. not to; so don't think this guy is going to bow to any pressure from some pot smoking, green-haired tree-huggers who are threatening to go to Iraq and become human shields.

George W. will probably just tell our military to tip their hats when they splatter these idiots all over whatever piss hole they are standing in front of as a "shield."

Over there, over there, send the word send the word to beware, that the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming, and it won't be over till it's over over there.

Sempter Fi indeed.

Oh, and it's "Semper Fidelis."

Dear Sturm, While hiking in Switzerland I had the misfortune of being approximately one half mile behind two germans who had not bathed since world war two. I could smell them for an hour before I ever saw them. This is a true story. Then, when I took my dear son to the St. Louis Arch a stinking German tourist, literally, got on the elevator with us. My son,the innocent, asked what smelled like old chili and onions, and I said, nearly passing out, "The fucking German tourist dear." I must admit by this time I had lost my patience with reeking foreigners whose lack of courtesy had been made apparent way before our little international crisis. Really Sturm, how can anyone take you seriously when you smell so badly? Even your posts hint of body odor. Sturm, Sturm, Sturm, It is usually a Japanese who is discovered still defending a tiny pacific atoll, unaware that world war two is finally over, and he is ushered into the 21 century, bleary eyed and blinking, happy to surrender to the benevolent country who has freed him from his imperialist chains. How can we help you Sturm? You are perched upon your tiny atoll, stinking, chewing upon the smegma that gathers in the creases of your body, waving at what you think is a friend on another atoll. But it is not a friend, Sturm, no, not at all. It is a French man who is also stinking and eating his own smegma and is DRINKING SALT WATER! Do you know what this means for this pathetic looser? His brain is turning into smegma curds, and he smells worse than you. With all due respect, my Italian friend, Germany made friends with Italy in WWII and it still didn't help win the war for you did it? Go ahead and side with the French this time. Do you really think you're improving? Try something besides curds Sturm. Fish is brain food. There is a way to get that besides eating French women.

Semper Fidelis, excellent pointconcerning the fact that anyone not muslim is a target, even the cowardly French who I am confident will be found to have played a role in supporting terrorism. These muslim primitives even kill other muslims who are not of the same sect..it is time for the final stage in human evolution to take place...drag the muslims into civilized society and remove them from the earth if they resist and still insist on killing innocent infidels. We would be more than happy to live in peace with them provided they evolved..there is no chance for liberalism here..stroking the cock of a rabid, ravenous tiger will not prevent him from eating you..thus, trying to appease the muslim fundamentalists will do the civilized world no good..even if and when the french surrender to any muslim hostile factions, they will still be killed as they are still infidels, albeit only cowardly ones.
I would also like to mock russia at this time and inform them that they have fallen from a great power(Soviet Union) to a conglomerate of festering shit. The scum that immigrates to this country from the conglomerate of shit are either whores, strippers or mobsters, and have absolutely no moral or ethical values whatsoever..Thus, I mock mother russia along with France and Germany,

I would also like to add that I still mock you Mr. Levy..and look forward to fighting it out with you? Where did you go scumbag? You can't expect to wait it out on the sidelines after making such inflammatory comments like you did during the first Gulf war when men with real balls like me signed up to serve their country. How does it feel to be a woman? Would you like some tampons with your feminine actions? I look forward to hearing from you.

@yankeedoodle:
We germans are a VERY clean and neat Volk.
Peoples who run around stinky have not my respect.
Perhabs it was a german u have seen zere, but it was not a real german. He was an idiot. Or perhabs ze peoples in my Vaterland didnt like him because zis and send him to switzerland...

@Raze Versailles:
What zur Hölle is a buttplug?
A Gewinnspiel ist a game where u kan win a price!
Are u to stupid to understand zat?

Aufruf zum Wiederstand

Europäer! Einigt euch gegen die imperialistische Bedrohung, gegen den verbrecherischen Westen mit seinen terroristischen Plänen!
Lasst euch nicht von ihrer Propaganda beirren!
Hört nicht auf sie, denn sie lügen und lügen!
Europäer, die Zeit zum Wiederstand ist gekommen!
Ihre Zeit läuft langsam aber sicher ab;
und unsere Zeit kommt!
Kämpft für eine große Zukunft Europas!
L`europe ensemble! Europe together!Europa einig!

sturm, a butt plug is just what it sounds like. it is a cylindrical object that is meant to be sat upon by german men, the bulk of which ends up in the ass. i understood your explanation of a gewinnspiel, i am just confused about the rules of a game involving a butt plug. what is the prize you win? the advertizement said GEWINNSPIEL in big letters, and had a studded butt plug immediately displayed under the title. what do you not understand about this? is this an after dinner german game, or one played by the children? i really am curious.

I am painfully aware that the Italians joined the germans at one point. I would like, however, to point out that Italy now sides with the US in regard to bombing the shit out of iraq. We also hate the french, and beat the hell out of germania as the Roman Empire, so we do have some redeeming qualities.

I can see a near future in which the US successfully cleanses the world of the radical muslim movement, solidifying its position as the most powerful Nation on Earth. At this time, they will remember who their friends are....as well as who their enemies are.

Uh please, dont you hears on what se sturm is saying to you, to say de trooth, we germins are aktually only started de argument about da iraque war because we having huge famine in ours country just like oor french brethren are doing, we, de germins and de frensch wants de amerika to bomb our place all over again and to make, again, afterwords, huge infestment wit de dollar in german and fench infrostrukture, becus dere's nofing we cun eat rite now, becaus our leadar doesnt allow us to go eat at Kentucky Fried Chickun, he says "itz not Kulture", he urges us to be going eat at Fritz's Wurst Shack!!!! And it smellz terribly there, all the wursts are torched and black and brown, and sum people said even thut it is nut aktually wurst, but it is really turd, that tehy are serfing there! It does indeed taste like tat! I once heard de tale about the three ragged German teenage-brethren who were taking a hike of a 1000 kilometres to the U.S. European Command Center in Heidleberg, becus they knew that there were a Kentucky Fried Chicken and even a MackDonalds! SO WE, THE PEOPLE OF GERMANY AND OF THE FRANCE ARE MAKING A PLEAD TO THE PRESIDENTS OF DE AMERIKA: PLEASE DONT TURN AWAY YOUR EYES FROM GERMAN-FRENCH FAMINE AND POOH-STINK, DONT JUST BRING DE CULTURE TO DE PEOPLE OF DE IRAQUE! WE ARE FORCED TO EAT IN THE WURST-SHACK!!! BOMB BERLIN, BOMB PARI, WE WANT THE WENDY AND THE BURGER KING AND THE KFC AND THE TACO BELL!!!! BUT US LEADERS DONT WANT TO GIVE US! THEY US KEEP IN SLAVEMANSHIP US! AMERIKAN SHELLING OF DE LARGE CITIES AND DE SMALL HAMLETS WIT DE B-52 IS OUR LAST CHANCE! HELP!!!! FAST!!!!!
WE DONT WANT TO EAT AT THE WURST SHACK ANYMORE!!!!
IF DE IRAQUI PEOPLE HAVE DE RIGHT NOT ONLY TO EAT DE KABOB AND DE FELAFEL, WHY DO WE HAVE TO EAT AT THE WURST SHACK??? I KNOW YOU ONLY WANTS TO BOMB DE FRANCE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE DE RIGHT TO BE BOMBED!!!! PLEASE!!!!!

If you Americans do decide to bomb us, will you please do so from the direction of Germany, so that our guns on the Maginot Line may have a chance to shoot at your planes.

Merci beaucoup.

Frenchy

Bombing France is the next step. I've begun with a boycott of French Fries, French Toast and French Bread....take that!

Italian Dude, Italians are great, Italy is beautiful. If I couldn't live in this great country, I would live in Firenza where it is sunny, or near the mountains...where it is still sunny. In either place there is wine and food and charming people. Speaking of which...Mr. Piss, you confirm my ideas on Darwinism which is constantly at work in this world...if only it would work a little faster and the Muslims with guns would kill other Muslims with guns...or the French...which is saying the same thing isn't it? And finally, Semper Fi, I'd like to buy you a drink my good man. There are more people who feel like you do than you know. There is no peace when countries can kill their women like they were animals...much less than animals. Where are you fucking French on this one? And you Germans? Cover their faces...they don't even have names or souls...That's what serial killers do to their victims before they die. Lock them in a house all the days of their lives. Have them watched. It's something you stinking European men can handle...screwing women who are too dumb, mute and senseless to protest, who have been beaten down too long to care. But lets crucify the Americans. Sure. They are so cruel...they are killing innocents. Unbelieveable! How can you twist it so damn much?! There is no such thing as'innocent'in the Middle East...and there is no orthodox Muslim living there who isn't a sadistic spawn of satan to any woman who draws breath. You hydrocephalic pacifists can stick your two inch erection in a meat grinder, and that's too good for you. Peace! THERE IS NO PEACE AND NEVER HAS BEEN!!! NOT WHEN THERE IS A COUNTRY OF ABUSERS!!!MURDERERS!!! Thank God we have men in America who know what it is to be men...who know what women are and who know how to treat us right. We've got our MEN and women ready to fight together for what is RIGHT. There is no way to respect you french BOY, german BOY...Bathed or dirty...you stink of the death of generations of women who have never seen the light of day, and who have barely lived. Out of life's school of war: What does not destroy me, makes me stronger.
Friedrich Nietzsche, The Twilight of the Idols (1899)

To Hold Tight: "Ladies" don't kill their boyfriends with axes. Her conversion doesn't erase the crime. It just saves her from Hell. Don't be so smug, friend. War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) Semper Fi, indeed.

Who's being "smug?" Making a true point about the nature of George W. is not being "smug," rather it is perhaps confirming a resolute.

Saddam has been seriously wrong twice, now, in his dealings with America, and both times a Bush was at the end of his bartering. Saddam couldn't have had worse luck if he tried. For he now is faced with a man who was petitioned from many within his own party to spare the life of Carla Faye Tucker, the ax murderess in question, yet he was firm in his resolution to carry out Texas 'justice' upon her come hell or high water.

This analogy was simply made to remind the doubters and those in anxious turmoil of what George W. may do, of just whom Saddam is dealing with.

Nothing "smug," just the facts representing the nature of the beast.

Capish?

Frenchy! Your guns on the maginot line point in one direction and, of course, do not point up! Thus, if we did attack from that direction, you would be shooting into your beloved Germany. But hey, at least it is more than you did in WWII when they were your enemies..you ran from your guns with your hands in the air in WWII until we came to save your pathetic asses a second time..but don't be fooled, if we did attack, you would run away again. You can't help it, its in your genes. Thus, I do not blame you, but you must not pretend to be somthing you are not..people with integrity and bravery. You have none, never will. Europe will be ours and we will throw the UN out of the US..that rectangular block of shit has stained the manhattan landscape far too long. Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!!!!
Just a point on Turkey..what kind of country names itself after a cold-cut and expects to be taken seriously? But today ended on a positive note Mrs. Yankeedoodle..the arabs are calling each other monkeys in the arab summit..they have finally realized that they are primitives. All is good, with the exception that Israel has still not cleansed the west bank..if they did more racial profiling, there would be less bombings..and please don't give me shit about civil rights..you don't see Israeli's, or Italians or Americans or even the filthy North Koreans getting on buses strapped to bombs..only muslim fundamentalists..I'm not saying discriminate against all arabs or muslims, but certainly keep an eye on them when they are in crowded places. Much tradgedy could be averted. I also call for groups to antagonize the high school and college students who gather in the streets and hang our flag upside down. There should be a rule.. if you burn or desecrate the American flag it is your right, but it is also the right for a veteran of a foreign war to be able to kill them if they catch them. I think that is just and fair..freedom of speech and action on both sides..all will be equal.

"Frenchy! Your guns on the maginot line point in one direction and, of course, do not point up! Thus, if we did attack from that direction, you would be shooting into your beloved Germany."

Not if you flew a little lower. Lower, fly lower, and slow, very slow... without wabbling...

And we didn't run until some kid fired a cap gun...

Good morning fellow Franco-bombers, I love you guys. Fuck the rest of you pathetic peace queers, because you’re all a bunch of shit eaters. What's with all this eating of shit anyway? I heard on NPR yesterday a couple of talking heads going on about the latest numbers on drinking water quality in nations around the world. Rock bottom last in the whole entire of creation is not Mexico or Chad but friggin Belgium. Fecal choliform is the culprit, which of course is, well, SHIT. Apparently, for instance 60% of all Brussels sewage is run directly, untreated, into the river. And that just one example. The outlying agricultural area is also dripping in animal shit. They have shit in the ground water from all the run off. Statistically that makes the Belgonians the greatest shit lovers on earth. They love shit so much they have it in only the highest concentration right in their drinking water.

This should not have come to me as such a surprise with all you fellow franco-bomb-aphiles keeping us informed about the European shit lovers. That leads me back to the Two Cheek theory that was brought up earlier in this conversation where East and West Germany were the right and left cheeks. I now think that France and Germany are right and left ASS CHEEKS. If this is so, you know where the leaves the Belgivites, the hole in the center.

If Belgeranians from Flanders speak Flemish does that make them Flems?

I agree with you all, I came upon this website when searching for Bomb France on Yahoo. It is so refreshing to see so many people agree that we should get rid of france, pull out of South Korea and allow the rest of the worlds scum to fend for themselves. P.S. Can people as dumb as the french learn to speak German?

"THERE IS NO PEACE AND NEVER HAS BEEN!!! NOT WHEN THERE IS A COUNTRY OF ABUSERS!!!MURDERERS!!!"

Ja. Zere is no peace, not when u amerikan murderers, terrorists and imperialists are in ze world.
I am not a pazifist. I am an enemy of you and of your piss-drinking, imperialistic and terroristic country.
Europe will stand togheter, with russia and with china. U amerikans are alone. Zere are only ze shit britain on your side.
Oh... And Italy. hehehe...
But zis country will never be your allies. perhabs only for a short time, but not long and not really. Zey will be traitors, like zey were it so often in ze history. Ze only way for zem in de future will be europe. If zey dont akzept zat, zey will get problems.But i think zat zey will see zat in ze future. For us zey are not important. With zeire actually politic zey are nowhere important. I kan not take u serious.
Raze Versailles. You are a pornografic Bastard.
What are ze sites where u going to in ze i-net???
I dont know what zey mean with zis Gewinnspiel;
and im not really interested in it.
Piss on chirac,( i zink that chirac ist a very good man), running away is not in ze genes of ze french. Zat ist your favourite activity.
Capnken. Shit shit shit, ist zat ze only word u kan say? i think u must be very interested in shit if u speak always about it.

Europa... Unsere Zeit wird kommen...

"Can people as dumb as the french learn to speak German?"
Austin; do you want to provoke me?
Do you want to say zat i`m french? Or have i understand you wrong? I hope.

Rache...

sturm, to answer your question of what sites i visited on the internet, i went to a search engine and looked up germany, and the site with your "alternative german dictionary "popped up. very easy. as for me being a pornographic bastard, well, it wasn't my country who actually has a word for "somebody who shits his pants",and "semen on a chin after fellatio", or uses the same verbiage when referring to both "fucking" and "playing the violin". we do not play after dinner family games (like your gewinnspiel) with a dildo. talk about the pot and the kettle...

capnken, i believe the whole "shit eater" connotation when used in reference to germans, came about because of the emergence of "german scheiser videos", which depict german people reaching orgasm by defecating in each others' mouths.

Raze, you are correct about the origin of shit eating! Nice work!
Yankeedoodle, we are with you!!!

Great point Raze! I have a question. Why the fuck do we care about any other country but ourselves. The Middle East is a threat?.....give em' nuclear winter. The hell with "liberating them" Arabs are nasty looking fuckers. The French and Germans don't agree?......tell them they can leave all 5 of their soldiers behind, and if we need human shields, then we'll fly over and scoop up the first 200 fucks we find.

pussies, I don't think we do care about these other countries, we just hate them and want to occupy them and enslave their cowardly populations as punishment for their insolence.

JSOC, awesome articles!!! you have brought much to our forum. Thank you.

sturm, I met a chick named Carol who claimed some german ancestry, but she did not understand when I inquired about a gewinnspiel. I proceeded to ask her if she would like to join me for some "geigen". She happily agreed, and suggested we do so at her house, which was great for me!!! when we got there, wouldn't you know it, she pulled out a fucking violin and played the Horst Wessel song. Fucking confusing german sex words.

Sturm you silly bastard, your logik(note the K's in place of the C's) is all wrong. You mentioned that we are murderers and imperialists..then how can you say that running away is our favorite activity? Running away(I prefer "fleeing" better as it paints a most beautiful picture of these filthy cowards)is in the French genes just as shit-eating and surrendering to America and having their country divided up like a pot of schnitzel is in the German genes..The french ran away from you guys twice..how can you say running away is not in their genes? Chirac is a whore married to the once self-proclaimed master race of the Vaterland..he ist not gud(did I spell that korrektly?)
On a more serious note, you never did answer my question about why you don't like schroeder. Why don't you like him? Frenchy, our planes don't flow slow and wobbly..but they can fly low..but wasting ammo on fleeing unwashed french citizens is analogous to stealing candy from a child..it's just not a challenge..i prefer to insult you instead. However, I am glad we can communicate in this forum..it is a good thing that one can still receive email while hiding underground.
Alte Europa-weaklings
Alte Europa-has beens
Alte Europa-soon to be assimilated
and my personal favorite...
Alte Europa-shit eaters!

hey, by the way, where is rommel, the desert fuks?
I kinda miss him..hey I like speaking with you primitives but I am most disturbed by this "Gewinnspiel"..how do you guys play such a filthy game and award prizes at the end of it? I saw the picture of this anal stimulation device and was appauled when you intimated that it was a family game? How does an anal stimulation device fit into the family? And to award prizes? How does one win this game of anal stimulation, and what kind of prize does he/she obtain? Is it an after dinner game, or a holiday thing, or just a weekend thing..the ladies in our country often meet on a weekday night to play bridge which is a game of cards..there is no anal stimulation that I am aware of..also, american families play trivial pursuit together and ask each other harmless questions but there is no anal stimulation and/or obstruction? Is this a post-berlin wall fad brought over by the decadent east germans(aka the left ass cheek). I am just trying to learn your culture..I thought I had understood it(being the whores for american soldiers in your neatly American occupied country), but then raze versailles provided the website describing such things. I am confused, please advise.
By the way, sauerkraut is not all it is cracked up to be..do you guys have any other dishes/recipes?

hey D.austin, the french did learn to speak German twice..after holding their hands up in WWi and WWII they started learning German and then when we rescued them they pretended it never happened... they then spent the next 50 years bad mouthing us. What a noble people!

Another reason to bomb the French bastards, they have been selling weapon systems and spare parts for those systems to Iraq, illegally, even as recently as January of this year:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030307-545570.htm

And they did so knowing full well that America was about to go to war with Iraq. This means they were aiding our enemy to potentially kill American soldiers.

Slap the shit out of a Frenchman when you see one; that is, if you can catch him. They have had a lot of practice at running from fights.

A Gewinnspiel is a game where u can win a prise. it ist often offered in tv or in radio. u kan win a car or money or other tings. U must give ze right answer to a question par example. It ist not a family game. More informations(only in german) on ze site: www.gewinnspiel.de
Ze word Hosenscheisser ist used for peoples who are often frightened, are not brave.
"Geigen" means "playing ze violine". I have never heard it in another connektion.
Good ist spelled korrektly "Gut".
Raze, im sure zat if u would search for your shit-eating-passion u would find many englisch sites, ja, i affirme more zan german. but searching for such shit-sites is not my part, zats yours.
Primitives are not we, ze primitives are u piss drinking amis.
u are imperialists, but u are not gut fighters.
In WW II its a fact zat most of your soldiers(not all) were undisziplined, frightened and unexperienced. Today u send you soldiers to war with gut material, with big air support. And u fight only against little countries with not very high technologie.
Amerikans, do u recognize zat u are more and more alone with your terrorattack on irak?

Die Zeit der Rache wird kommen...

It's absolutely true that the French and Germans have been doing business with their ally Iraq. This is the real reason for the peace queer stance that they are taking now. They want to continue selling military, industrial and other high tech goods to our enemies because the money is apparently very good, the cocksuckers. All this "peace now" crap is nothing but BS. As far as anyone else is concerned, they don't give a shit.

Speaking of shit, I think shit should be declared a weapon of mass destruction. If this is done, the US can begin bombing France, Germany and Belgium immediately. The Belgicans have the highest concentration of shit in drinking water in the world. How far behind can the ass cheeks, France and Germany be? All this shit everywhere has at least got to be a cultural trait that needs to be wiped (ha ha) from the face of the earth.

Raze, thanks for the note, I have been lucky enough to been forwarded in email one of those lovely German "shit vids" What I meant was that I think this whole shit thing is much more deeply rooted in their fucked up culture. That is, I don't think it just cropped up in some mpeg video's, I mean I think they are "some fucked up" going back to the dawn of time.

Bomb early, Bomb often and Bomb France, and well, OK Bomb Germany and Belgium too.

Amerikans, have u forgotten zat u had supported
saddam? u are ze reason for saddam and his power.
U had supported him with weapons against ze Iran.
And now u piss-monkeys want to fight against him?
Your politics ist not very logic...

Europa- Alte und neue Größe.

hey sturm, your nazis tried to take over the world, and now you are railing against war. i would say your politics are pretty illogical too.
are you saying you play this gewinnspiel game on tv in germany too??? that is great! you can win a car or money by sitting on a dildo? how does one excel and, say, win bigger prizes, is it based on penetration depth? no, i would agree by looking at the advertisement photos on the web, that it is not a family game.

I actually did search for shit eating sites from areas other than germany, but was unable to find any. i guess we americans have not yet seen the benefits of such behavior.

capnken, interesting point. you could indeed be onto something with your theory. correct me if i am wrong, but i believe you are suggesting that german shiteating had been going on for centuries, and only gained worldwide noteriety as a german export because of the video age. i had not considered this possibility, as i thought the shiteating craze was spawned for the purpose of making scheiser videos. it is a very revealing possibility that this activity had been such a staple of day to day german life, that it was bound to be caught on video just by the law of averages. now i have to rethink my opinion of german people. i may have been understating the situation when i suggested they were a sick, twisted culture.

U say "your nazis"? I`m not a nazi. And u must make a difference betwen ze nazi reich and betwen germany of ze last 50 years. It ist a completely other system. But your system when you supported iraq was the same as today.
If your arguments are only based on your ridiculous shit-eating-theory and ze gewinnspiel, zat has nothing to do with your pornographic connections, i`m not longer really interested in writing in zis forum.
I want to defend my Vaterland and europe against your (idiotic) country and i want to have a discussion with my(Zitat Piss_on:)"pen enemies".
But ze niveau of zis is getting to low for me.

HEY STURM, YOU NAZI SHIT-EATING FAGGOT....
WHAT YOU AND YOUR "VATERLAND" SEEM TO FORGET, IS THAT YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED NOTHING TO THIS SOCIETY, UNLESS YOU COUNT THE ENSLAVING AND MASS-MURDERING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OVER THE LAST CENTURY. I'VE GOT A THOUGHT. WHY DON'T YOU FUCKS STAY IN YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY, AND BEND OVER WHEN WE DECIDE TO COME AND "LIBERATE" YOU FOR BEING THE SCARED LITTLE PUSSIES THAT YOU ARE. SEND MY LOVE TO ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS...WE'LL SEE YA SOON

wait Sturm, you can't leave. I realize the gewinspiel and shit eating thing has you upset. I would like to continue our discussions as pen enemies, but from your last message you said you are leaving..actually I'm not sure what you said as your english needs some work but I give you the effort for trying. I believe you said you still wanted to talk to me as your pen enemy so you must continue. Who else can I argue with? Who will defend the Vaterland? Yes, it is your duty, your destiny to stay on this website and argue. Thus, don't leave the site as I think Rommel got disgusted and left as well..there will be noone left to argue with if you depart. Thus, stay Sturm and continue you rants against my country so we may argue back and forth for many more nights/days.

You guys did hear the news today....those pansy French were secretly selling airplane parts to the Iraq as of just two weeks ago......wheres my "bomb france" T-shirt.....

God bless America!

Fuck GI.

@ "Sturm is a cook":
We have not forget what we have done. We have made mistakes in ze time 39-45. Zats right. But in ze other time , in ze last 50 years, we havent repeat our mistakes. Since zis time we have never made on offensive war. But u had used ze atom bomb in ze WW II and killed hundret thousends of "innocent people". But in ze 50 years after ze war u continued with bombing "innocent people".

"WHY DON'T YOU FUCKS STAY IN YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY, AND BEND OVER WHEN WE DECIDE TO COME AND "LIBERATE" YOU FOR BEING THE SCARED LITTLE PUSSIES THAT YOU ARE."

1. We dont do what u "decide".
2.Why dont u, who sent thousends of soldiers in ze world, stay in your damn country?
Ze imperialists are not we, zat are u.

I want staying here in zis forum and continue ze "pen-war". But i dont want to write about "shit-eating" and "Gewinnspiel".

Europa- Neue Macht.

sturm, you must realize that in a free society like America, we cannot pick and choose who we allow to speak, and what people have the right to speak about. the nazis did have that type of control over their people, but here in America everybody has the right to voice their opinions. i am sorry, but it is very difficult for me to talk about germany without mentioning shit eating or twisted sex, because these topics are so closely tied to your country. if we focus more on france, i may be able to contain those references, but i am not guaranteeing anything. i must say, however, that running off in the face of the facts is a rather cowardly act. be a man for the love of god, and stay and defend the vaterland. otherwise we will be forced to take off the proverbial gloves, and viciously attack germany in your absence every day, and the vaterland will have no defenders!!!

Sturm, are the germans so delicate as to quit and leave when the going gets tough? If so, you are a great credit to your country.

"We have not forget what we have done. We have made mistakes in ze time 39-45."

Um, what about 1914 - 1918? you know, the first time America kicked your ass in WWI.

And you probably aren't even a real German, anyway. Because WWII began in Europe in 1932, when the Nazi party became the largest party in Germany; Hitler took over the following year as Chancellor.

"Zats right. But in ze other time , in ze last 50 years, we havent repeat our mistakes. Since zis time we have never made on offensive war."

You're funny. For the last 50 years you were occupied by the U.S.A., by Britain, by the Soviet Union, and even by, gulp, France. You had no power to even wage war with a group of Girl Scouts.

"But u had used ze atom bomb in ze WW II and killed hundret thousends of "innocent people". But in ze 50 years after ze war u continued with bombing "innocent people"."

Why were the Japanese, who attacked us first, any more innocent than our soldiers who were defending a nation which was attacked by Japan? And had we not used the A-bomb, and therefore had not Japan surrendered like it did, then how many people do you think would have been killed in Japan through traditional weapons and warfare, when we invaded their island? Have you ever learned how many people were killed in Tokyo by conventional bombs, during the war? More than in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

Who do you think America was dealing with? France? these people did not run from a cap gun like the French did, they didn't even surrender after we dropped the FIRST atomic bomb on them, asshole. It took TWO to bring them to their senses, dumb ass.

Yea, I get the joke, some idiot online is posing as a German and having the time of his life trolling.

What a moron.

Well boys it looks like we've done it. We've made our little pen enemies cry, cry like the panty wearing girly boys we said they were. I guess calling them shit eaters hits a little close to home. I'll admit that it is off topic and fuckin gross to boot. So if we promise to stay to bombing the crap out of their stupid countries, but mainly France, maybe they could stick around for us to continue taking pot shots at.

It kind of reminds me of beating up squealers in school. You know when you finally get a real good grip on their hair you can keep smashing their head into solid objects but you don't really want to knock them cold so you go a little easy on them to make it last longer. A) Because they so richly deserve it. And B) because when they finally get free they're going to squeal on you again.

Please, sturm, rommel and any other assholes who want to keep on fighting WWII instead of fighting this one, please don't run like babies, stay so we can poke you in the nose some more, and just because it's fun.

Please give generously to bombs for France.

@ Ze ami who have forgot to write a name:

"Um, what about 1914 - 1918? you know, the first time America kicked your ass in WWI."
-In zis time it were mainly ze french and britisch , who beated us. But we did not ze terror against zivilists("innocent people")like we did it in ze WW II.

"And you probably aren't even a real German, anyway. Because WWII began in Europe in 1932, when the Nazi party became the largest party in Germany; Hitler took over the following year as Chancellor."
- Hehehe. WRONG, Amerikan! Adolf Hitlers NSDAP became ze largest party in germany in 1933, not 32. And ze WW II began in europe in 1939 with ze german attack in poland (perhaps u kan say 1938, when we captured Tschechien and austria), but NOT in 1932.

"You're funny. For the last 50 years you were occupied by the U.S.A., by Britain, by the Soviet Union, and even by, gulp, France. You had no power to even wage war with a group of Girl Scouts."
-Oui, u controlled us for some 10 years. But zat was not ze reason for our nonagressive behavior.
We have learned from our mistakes. If we wanted, we had enough power to start a war. you`re funny.

U bombed cities with zivilists. Of course zat were innocent people.
I have another example for your terror. Dresden.
Februar 1945. WW II.
U destroyed one of ze nicest city of europe. And u killed some 100 thousend peoples. Not soldiers,
not tanks, not Luftwaffe-planes and not facilitys.
Zivilists.
And Vietnam? Zere u destroyes a whole country too, and finally u lost.

@Capnken:
"We've made our little pen enemies cry, cry like the panty wearing girly boys we said they were."
-Should zat be a joke? cry? I think u are not right in ze head.I have said zat ze niveau ist getting to low, to weak for me here. U have not made me cry, and u will never made me cry.
Some of u amerikans here are only able to write about shit eating and german words which zey dont understand.

Europas Rache wird kommen...

H.EY STURM, DO YOU HAVE ANY CHILDREN?????.....BECAUSE I HEAR THAT WHEN WE
WE "LIBERATE" THE MIDDLE EAST, WE WILL BE NEEDING LITTLE GERMAN PIGGIES TO PATROL THE MINE FIELD. IT CAN'T BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THROWING MILLIONS OF JEWISH CHILDREN INTO AN OVEN. YOUR CUNT REY DISGUSTS ME, AND YOUR ATTITUDE OF STAYING ON THE SIDELINES UNTIL THE FIGHT IS OVER IS APPALING. YOUR RIGHT ABOUT US USING THE A-BOMB. WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE, AFTER KICKING YOUR NAZI ASSES AND TEARING DOWN YOUR WALL....WAS TEST OUT THE BOMB ON YOUR SORRY ASSES. EUROPE IS A WASTE OF REAL ESTATE. I HEAR THAT THERE IS BUT ONE TASTY FROHLEIN IN YOUR COUNTRY. HER NAME IS "TASTY TAMMY" AND HER SIEKICK "TENACIOUS TALLY". I WISH THAT WE COULD ADOPT THEIR SADO-MASACISTIC AND PERVERSE POLE DANCING TECHNIQUES TO OUR SOCIETY. VIVA LA LAP DANCE!!!!!

Excellent, we have sturm back, so let the battles continue. May I suggest that we focus our energies on France who has been recently caught supplying parts to the self-proclaimes master religion. Sturm, no wonder Germany loves the guys, they think they are in a "master" category too. However, they are dark skinned so a potential conflict of interest exists. I'm glad you were able to overlook the color difference. It is a sign you have potential to be evolutionarily advanced by the United States. Have you considered my offer to join US and flee from the dark side of French lechery? In light of their newest blunder of getting caught sneaking supplies to our enemies, do you still think we are wrong for hating them? Can't you see they are not even good at cowardly things like sneaking around behind the free worlds collective back and supplying parts to a destructive madman. They even managed to screw that up. HOw can you stand not to hate these people. I am not being unreasonable, can't you see how easily the hate flows to the french. Yes, let yourself go, the vaterland deserves better than the French. Make them your enemies once again and we may allow you kick them around for a third time..or at least kick them when they are down after we finish with them. Vat du zu cink? Not bad idea hating ze French. And where the hell is that coward Richard Levy..I am still waiting to fight you...

I like ze kind u use to argument. Kompletly without words like "shit eating" or other stupid insults. It has niveau.
Respekt.
Zat could be an example for people like "Sturm is a cock"(I will not answer to your post) or some others hier.

But i must refuse "hating ze french". My enemy ist still ze same. And we germans will be on ze "dark side" of France.
We will built up a new strong and powerful europe.
Togheter.
I have a question to u amerikans: what ist your favourite news channel in tv? CNN or Fox news?

Europa- Kultur und Größe.

Boycott France bumper stickers and T-shirts at:

http://www.cafeshops.com/obnoxious_bs

hey, did you guys read about how chirac has sent the french ambassador on a trip this weekend to africa, with the purpose of soliciting support from un countries against america? it would be soooo easy to provoke these assholes by taking this guy's plane out "accidentally". in the interest of frog bashing, i was banging this girl Pam who i see from time to time, and we found a new game! after i finish with her, she sings "l'aloulette" while i punch her, then i leave a hot lunch on her chest for good measure. it is very fulfilling.

"-In zis time it were mainly ze french and britisch , who beated us."

"Ze french" and "ze british" could not even get Germany out of France, where the front lines were entrenched. It wasn't until the Doughboys got over there were the Germans pushed back across the Rhine and sued for peace.

As I said, a fake German. So fake and having fun with his fakeness he is writing his German accent on the board, and apparently some are going along with it. When he writes in German text, he apparently just uses one of many software programs that convert English text into a number of other, foreign texts.

Trollers are a hoot.

"But we did not ze terror against zivilists("innocent people")like we did it in ze WW II."

Ever hear of mustard gas? the German sleazebags were the first to use it in warfare, during WWI, and they even bombed cities in WWI. Also, ever hear of the Lusitania, a passenger liner full of American and British civilians, sunk by a German submarine, killing almost all on board? Why do you think America declared war on Germany, numskull? Or how about the British liner Arabic, also sunk by a German submarine?

"- Hehehe. WRONG, Amerikan! Adolf Hitlers NSDAP became ze largest party in germany in 1933, not 32."

Hehehe WRONG, DUMBASS. The Nazi party became the largest party in 1932, and because of this, Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor in JANUARY 1933.

"And ze WW II began in europe in 1939 with ze german attack in poland (perhaps u kan say 1938, when we captured Tschechien and austria), but NOT in 1932."

A war does not begin at the time of the actual attack, but at the time of the planning of the attack, and that began when the Nazi's took over.

And militarily, Austria was the first victim of Germany, with the Anschluss on March 13, 1938. And if you were a REAL German, you would probably know that Germany invaded Czechoslovakia before it invaded Poland.

"-Oui, u controlled us for some 10 years. But zat was not ze reason for our nonagressive behavior.
We have learned from our mistakes. If we wanted, we had enough power to start a war. you`re funny."

You would have been destroyed before your ships left harbor, your planes left the ground, and your soldiers left their little-boy lovers.

"U bombed cities with zivilists. Of course zat were innocent people."

As I said, this aint no German, otherwise he'd be harping about Dresden AND Hamburg.

How many civilians did Germany kill with their buzz bombs and V1's and V2's and death camps and invasions? How many civilians died at Leningrad? at Warsaw? at Stalingrad?

"I have another example for your terror. Dresden.
Februar 1945. WW II."

Ahh, there it is. Good ol' Dresden. 135,000 or so Germans and possibly some of their captured slaves were snuffed out by conventional bombing. That's what Germany got for opening up a two front war. Stretched its defenses thin. Germany got punished hard by the allies for starting the damn thing in the first place. Germany should have surrendered. It wasn't as glorious at the end for Germany as it was in the beginning. Germany shouldn't have been moving troops through Dresden near the end of the war.

"U destroyed one of ze nicest city of europe. And u killed some 100 thousend peoples. Not soldiers,
not tanks, not Luftwaffe-planes and not facilitys.
Zivilists."

Germans of all kinds working in war factories. The Huns who declared war on the world sought mischief, and got all the mischief they could handle. Ask the Jews near Dresden in the concentration camps if they had any pity for the Germans in Dresden.

"And Vietnam? Zere u destroyes a whole country too, and finally u lost."

How could America have lost, if it destroyed the "whole country" of Vietnam? Caught in a paradox, aren't you.

"France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country.
France has usually been governed by prostitutes."
--- Mark Twain

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."
--- General George S. Patton

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion."
-- Norman Schwartzkopf

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
--- Jacques Chirac, President of France
"As far as France is concerned, you're right."
--- Rush Limbaugh,

"The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee."
--- Regis Philbin

"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
--- P.J O'Rourke (1989)

"You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the 1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the face for it."
--- John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona

"You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people."
-- Conan O'Brien

"I don't know why people are surprised that France won't
help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France!"
--- Jay Leno

"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into Paris under a German flag."
-- David Letterman

@ unnamed enemy:

U write only shit!
Ze WW II began 1939! N O T 1932 when ze SPD had ze power in germany! And not 1933, when Reichspräsident Hindenburg made Adolf to his chancelor. a war bedins when ze guns fire and ze tanks roll.
"ze WW II began in europe in 1939 with ze german attack in poland (perhaps u kan say 1938, when we captured Tschechien and austria)" your answer, amerikan: "And if you were a REAL German, you would probably know that Germany invaded Czechoslovakia before it invaded Poland."

Tschechien = czechoslovakia

"How many civilians did Germany kill with their buzz bombs and V1's and V2's and death camps and invasions? How many civilians died at Leningrad? at Warsaw? at Stalingrad?"
I have said, we learned from our mistakes. In zis time we did terror against zivilists.
But u did it too( Dresden, a-bombs in japan). And i mean with "destroyed whole country vietnam" not ze military aspekt. i mean zat u destroyed ze trees with your gas. ze countryside was destroyed many peoples died zere because of your bomb attacks. But u loosed zis war. zats fact.
u have written from a allied zivil ship, zat was destroyed by ze germans in WW I. Ze amerikans sent zis ship through ze german u-boot lines. On purpose. Zey wanted a reason for enter ze war.
Ze gas-attacks in WW I were military not fine, but zey used ze gas against soldiers.
I have not said, zat we did NOT terror against zivilists in WW I. I have said zat we did not so big terror against zivilists like in WW II.
In Dresden were no war factories in WW II. It was a completly unimportant aim for u. it had no military sence. U wanted only kill zivilists, and u did.
"As I said, a fake German. So fake and having fun with his fakeness he is writing his German accent on the board, and apparently some are going along with it. When he writes in German text, he apparently just uses one of many software programs that convert English text into a number of other, foreign texts"
Wat should zat mean? U say zat im not a real
ger-man? Wat ist ze reason for writting zis shit hier???
What do u zink i am?
an amerikan? french? italian? chinese?
Sorry. If u write zis shit i cant take u serious.

Ein auferstehendes Europa steht einem untergehenden Amerika gegenüber.
Am Ende steht der Sieg.

sturm, sturm, sturm, poor feeble-minded sturm. You didn't think you could get an apology for Dresden in this forum did you? well let me be the first to say you ain't gettin one! For those who say Dresden was nothing but retribution I say, SO WHAT! But there was more to bombing Dresden than leveling another German city. When you're beating up a bully it's important to show them you mean business. There take that! This was war you know. Speaking of bullies, the Allies also wanted to leave a stunning example of complete destruction for the advancing Russian army because we didn't want Comrade Josef to get any fuckin ideas. The rail facilities were left intact for two reasons, 1) because they would be needed as soon as the destruction of Germany was complete. And 2) It was important to show Comrade Josef that we could be highly selective and accurate while obliterating the bulk of everything else. The number one reason I say SO WHAT to bombing Dresden is the experimental nature of this important Allied operation. This was a practice run for the "Hell on Earth" destruction the Americans would rain down on The Empire of Japan. I say thank God for the bombing of Dresden because it was now possible for the US to raise the Firestorm to an art form.

You must have forgotten the hundreds upon hundreds of American ships (non-combatants) put on the bottom of the North Atlantic by the cowards in Nazi U-boats.

If we decide to bomb Germany again, for old times sake, I say Bomb Dresden.

Acutally Sturm, I watch Fox as it has less liberal scum than CNN which whored itself to disgraceful leaders such as Clinton. I must remind you that it was Clintons passivity and lack of testicles throughout the nineties that got America in the position where people were not afraid to kick us in the balls. He created an army of youth that plague this country to this day protesting our government and military by hanging the American flag upside down. Protesting the men and women who lay down there lives so they can live without care is a most disgraceful action. Clinton created this mess and thus CNN who often supported him is not a friend of mine..Fox is more willing to bash the French and Clintonians/liberals so I like them best. You still did not answer my question regarding why you don't like schroeder? Why not?, he dislikes America.

"U write only shit!"

You ARE shit.

"Ze WW II began 1939! N O T 1932 when ze SPD had ze power in germany! And not 1933, when Reichspräsident Hindenburg made Adolf to his chancelor. a war bedins when ze guns fire and ze tanks roll."

Ever hear of the "Cold War?" A war can begin either cold or hot. WWII began when the Nazi's took power and began plotting to attack their neighbors.

"I have said, we learned from our mistakes. In zis time we did terror against zivilists.
But u did it too( Dresden, a-bombs in japan)."

What a load of BULLSHIT! GERMANY ATTACKED THEIR NEIGHBORS FIRST, AS DID JAPAN! THE U.S.A. WAS DEFENDING EITHER ITSELF AFTER BEING ATTACKED, AS IN WWII; OR IT'S ALLIES, AS IT DID IN VIETNAM, ASSHOLE! IT DIDN'T START A WAR WITH ANYONE, LIKE GERMANY DID!

Hey, maybe this asshole is a real German, he lies and twists the truth like one. Only someone like a conniving German would try to compare attacking someone in a war as the same thing as DEFENDING one from such an attack.

Either that or an obsessed troller.

"And i mean with "destroyed whole country vietnam" not ze military aspekt. i mean zat u destroyed ze trees with your gas."

Oh yea, that's right, there are no more trees in Vietnam.

I almost forgot, Germans, and those pretending to be Germans, are IDIOTS, too.

"ze countryside was destroyed many peoples died zere because of your bomb attacks."

No, many people died there because some communist assholes tried to take away the freedoms of those who did not wish to be under communism.

"But u loosed zis war. zats fact."

We didn't lose the war. We withdrew from South Vietnam when we gave South Vietnam enough of a chance and time to take care of itself. While we were there, we won. When we withdrew, the South Vietnam pussies ran like the South Koreans did in 1950.

Saying that America lost the war in Vietnam would be like saying that France lost the war with Mexico, in 1866, when France got bored of ruling Mexico and brought it's troops home.

Name one military battle America lost in Vietnam.

"u have written from a allied zivil ship, zat was destroyed by ze germans in WW I. Ze amerikans sent zis ship through ze german u-boot lines. On purpose. Zey wanted a reason for enter ze war.
Ze gas-attacks in WW I were military not fine, but zey used ze gas against soldiers."

If that's true, then why did America wait 2 years until it declared war on Germany, after the sinking of the Lusitania? The Lusitania was sunk on May 7th, 1915 and America declared war on Germany on April 2nd, 1917. The war could have been over by the time America declared war on Germany after the sinking of the Lusitania. If this had been done on purpose in order to give America a reason to get into the war, they would have declared war the very day the Lusitania was sunk.

More moronic bullshit.

"I have not said, zat we did NOT terror against zivilists in WW I. I have said zat we did not so big terror against zivilists like in WW II.
In Dresden were no war factories in WW II. It was a completly unimportant aim for u. it had no military sence. U wanted only kill zivilists, and u did."

Dresden did indeed have stores and factories aiding the war effort, and you are simply wrong. It was also being used as a communications center for the war on the Eastern front, and was full of retreating German troops.

And Dresden was mostly bombed by British bombers, rather than America bombers.

And most importantly, Dresden wouldn't have been bombed at all had not the German people unrighteously attacked the world. They brought it on themselves.

"Wat should zat mean? U say zat im not a real
ger-man? Wat ist ze reason for writting zis shit hier???
What do u zink i am?"

I think you're an idiot.

Schick.
I think u are an idiot.
Dresden was not full of german troops.What a Mist!
Zere were only many prisoners of war and peoples who fugitives from Ostpreussen and zere very few german troops! zis attack had no military sence. Ja, ze british bombed and planed zis action to, but u were with zem and u send your bombers too.
Your lusitania: U send zis boat with ammo and military equiqment on bord. it were mainly british on ze ship. And after ze destoying of zis ship u supported england very strong. u searched a reason for enter ze war.
U lost ze vitnam war. i cant say zat u have not lost zis. zat would be ze same if i would say zat germany had not lost ze WW II.
"While we were there, we won." haha.
u did never reached your aims zere.

from Spain
all the comments I read here are one more demonstration of the centuries of culture and civilization that the USA still have to acquire before becoming normal people. I always thought it should be forbidden to export french wine, cheese, art etc. to such a barbarian country thanks god you now will avoid importing french goods anymore even if you still buy planes (you don't know anymore how to do them lacking the european scientist you imported after the second world war.
I hope that your undemocratic country with it terrorist government will show that either they are a ridiculous minority in the UN either that they are facist enough to ignore the rest of the civilized world

Es lebe Europa!
Vivre l`europe!
Europe rulez!

Hey Shittycus from spain. You are not even a country worth speaking about or conquering. Thus, I will continue to bash France. We are only brought to a lower level by importing goods from you old europe primitives. You are beneath us, and we imported your goods in the past only as charity not out of need. I look forward to the US dragging old europe into shit, then kicking the inferior parasites of the UN off US soil for good...then who will France leech off of..Germany? Certainly not spain which I refuse to capitalize.. Germany will come to its senses soon and invade them again.
Shittycus from spain, you are a primitive and will wallow in your own shit and go back to living in trees after the US deserts you and the inferior UN.

Let's hit those cheese eating, wine sucking idiots to a our own little boycott. Spread the word - BUY NOTHING FRENCH. I noticed on the internet that there's a movement to rename french fries to freedom fries - I love it! French toast in now freedom toast.
I've spent some time in France on business and I can honestly say, the French hated us before this whole Iraq thing even started. Try getting service in a restaraunt in Paris if you're an American!
Heard another good joke: Why are most major roads in Paris lined with trees? So the Germans can march in the shade. A french tank has 5 gears - 4 reverse and 1 forward in case the attack comes from the rear. How many Frenchmen does it take to defend France? Nobody knows - it's neve r been tried. Saw an add for French military rifles "as new, only dropped once!"

hey thebrick, if it weren't for illegal immigrant who would be taking out your trash and cleaning your toilets? White folks won't do it! get used to it!

Your friend,
Jimi

We are not conquered loosers. Wir sind die Besten.
How its feel to be in a dirty shit country like ze usa?
U monky dont cant akzept zat u lost in vietnam. U are to weak for ze reality. By ze way, i m not intersested in supply ze name of a single battle in vietnam. u have lost ze war. zats it!
We will never invade France. Zat are our european Kamerades!

Europa- Wir sind die Besten!
Europe- We are ze best!
Europe- Nous sommes les plus grandes!

"We are not conquered loosers."

Yea, that's why you have at least 4 different nations occupying your country. You won, so we have to stay there and be your slaves, is that it?

"Wir sind die Besten!"

Tip your hats to the American tanks rolling down your conquered streets, Germany.

"How its feel to be in a dirty shit country like ze usa?"

How does it feel to have the Russians rape all of your mothers and grandmothers? Know your dad?

"U monky dont cant akzept zat u lost in vietnam."

You krauts can't accept that you lost WWI and WWII and that you are conquered losers, so you bring up Vietnam which was not lost by any American army.

"U are to weak for ze reality."

So what does that make Germany, a nation controlled and occupied by foreign nations and their armies including America?

Seems to me that you are the one suffering from not being able to accept reality

"By ze way, i m not intersested in supply ze name of a single battle in vietnam. u have lost ze war. zats it!"

LOL! Nice try. You CAN'T supply the name of a single battle America lost in Vietnam, BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE.

"We will never invade France. Zat are our european Kamerades!"

You CAN'T invade France, because you are OCCUPIED BY FRANCE, and even the miserable French can kick your asses, now.

Boy, that's gotta hurt.

"Europa- Wir sind die Besten!
Europe- We are ze best!
Europe- Nous sommes les plus grandes!"

The best servants to American troops, the best at losing wars, the best at making us laugh.

if you're happy to bomb france and you know it clap your hands...(clap)(clap)

I admit, the french and the germans are good for something, listening to their stupid statistics and proving them wrong as we laugh that is.

I haven't to date met a frenchman that I could tolerate. The women on the other hand are good for getting one's rocks off. I've only "dated" one, but she was more than happy to gulp me down after I pulled it out of her backside. Why the backside? Because both sides smelled the same and at least it was a little more snug...

:)

I like it - who's your dad? maybe these morons and I are actually related somehow. my dad spent some time in france and germany during wwII. the only thing that went up faster than the hands of the french army were the legs of the french women. oui oui wow johnny! once you got passed the smell you had it licked!

TOP 10 REASONS WHY AMERICANS LOVE AMERICA:
10. We can kick everybody's asses
9. The best schools, producing
8. the smartest people
7. President Bush
6. Best looking women
5. Best beaches
4. Best movies
3. Richest people
2. National Park system
and the number 1 reason why we love America:
We know we're better than everybody else
Eat shit France!

Was there actually somebody from spain talking on this site? Talk about an irrelevant piece of shit country, ...are they still considered a country? Another third world nation trying to judge the US.The musings of people like the spaniard and sturm are like the daydreams of a child who fancies himself conquorer of a passing tank with a capgun.france and germany are about as important in this conflict as places like cameroon.(???) They have grouped themselves with the third world, so the third world they will become. What the hell are places like this even doing involved in the decision making??? Once we are done with the middle east, we need to unceremoniously destroy the UN. Why the fuck are we playing wet nurse, on our dollar nonetheless, to this useless group of monkeys? Want to pump money into our economy? STOP FUNDING THESE ASSHOLES!!! Let them return to their homelands to live in squalor and poverty.

Oh, what will they do in france and germany when the US cuts off trade, thereby eliminating from their reach the largest financial market in the world? I would imagine they will go back to eating each other, and living in mudhuts, like the germanians did before Rome civilized them. What will become of france once we are done with iraq, and find that the frogs have been illegally supporting them all along? Oh, boy. It is time we cut loose the albatross that is france, and put her out of her misery.

By the way, I have a stupid question : why are people questionning the right of France to veto a UN resolution rather than looking at the French propositions ?
I mean, it is not very convincing that French are cheeseeaters and US citizens stupid persons, but what is important is the reasons for war / not war, and I am surprised no one tries to explain them clearly...

Or maybe I am on an "antifrog" debate where the aim is to insult the French / US citizens ?

"By the way, I have a stupid question : why are people questionning the right of France to veto a UN resolution rather than looking at the French propositions ?"

You're right, that IS a stupid question.

"I mean, it is not very convincing that French are cheeseeaters and US citizens stupid persons, but what is important is the reasons for war / not war, and I am surprised no one tries to explain them clearly..."

Reasons for war (pay attention, please):

1) Saddam Hussein, who has been a violent, unstable dictator of Iraq since 1979, and who has demonstrated his violence and unstableness by first attacking Iran, then by attacking and invading Kuwait, has been trying to develop weapons of mass destruction ever since he came into power, even after he signed surrender terms in 1991 in which he promised to no longer do so, in order to avoid being physically removed from power. Should Saddam be successful in developing a nuclear weapon, he has demonstrated his potential of using such a device indiscriminately upon any who he perceives are his enemies, by his previous actions of attacking Iran, then Kuwait (as noted); by attacking Israeli civilians in the 1991 war, with SCUD missiles; by dumping millions of gallons of crude, Kuwaiti oil into the Persian Gulf while he was occupying Kuwait; by setting every one of Kuwait's oil wells on fire during his occupation there; by using deadly, poisonous gasses on citizens of his own country, the Kurds, which is an egregious war crime prosecutable by the United Nation's World Court; by collaborating with Al Queda, a renown terrorist group responsible for 9/11, who would love to obtain such weapons from Saddam Hussein; etc.

And since Saddam won't stop developing these weapons, then brighter heads than yours have determined that he is a very serious threat to the safety and security of the United States and its allies.

Now, however, according to the liberal, leftist, communist press, Saddam Hussein, who has been a ruthless dictator of Iraq since 1979, is a victim of mean, ol' George W, a person who was the former owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, a former governor of Texas, elected through somewhat fair and honest elections, and who has only been president for 2 years in a country which held somewhat fair and honest elections to elect him.

Now, it's up to YOU to use your brain for more than trying to figure out who should be the next American Idol, and try to figure out who the bad person is.

"Or maybe I am on an "antifrog" debate where the aim is to insult the French / US citizens ?"

No, you've just been watching too much leftist T.V.

"10. We can kick everybody's asses"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!
"9. The best schools, producing"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"8. the smartest people
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"7. President Bush"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"6. Best looking women"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"5. Best beaches"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"4. Best movies"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"3. Richest people"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"2. National Park system"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!
"and the number 1 reason why we love America:
We know we're better than everybody else"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!

Ze last of zis jokes was ze best! Gute Show!

But your joke with ze " controling and occupated by you" was not bad too.

P.S.: Your britisch bitch, tony blair, is getting
Problems in England. It looks like zat your poor country must continue alone.

Ihr seid geistig die ärmsten Gestalten mit denen ich je komuniziert habe.

EUROPA- Der Sieg wird unser sein!

Good to see that other Americans are getting mad.

I took French language and German language in school. I kept an open mind aboutthose countries and gave them the benefit of the doubt up until recently.
Friends mentioned that when they visited France years ago they were treated rudely. Even though they had been respectful, they were patronized by the French.
More recently (2001) I visited Europe. A Brit was being rowdy while talking to a shopkeeper. She said "stupid American" he said ..."no im British", I said "yup he is, I am the American." And I was the best mannered person there.
What I am talking about is already existing bias. Central Europeans in general just don't like us. They were looking for a reason to be mean and now they have one.
But I say, if you think we have bad manners now, wait till you piss us off. Have you ever seen road rage here? Its just an example.

We are a country of people who work too much, don't sleep enough, don't eat right because we have no time. And we get 2 weeks of vacation in general that we can never take because we are too busy working to rest. We are tired, grumpy and have little patience for people who get in our way.
France is in the way, they are supporting people who want to kill our citizens and ruin our economy. If we go down, the rest of the world goes with us.

Stuuurmmm..our military is still in your toilet of a country..boy, I had so much family stationed in your shithole, I feel like I have been there myself..not one of them chose to stay..they served their tour in your primitive nation(some of which WE OWN!!!The US owning German land and imposing its military upon it...we own part of the Vaterland...it is ours..we still dominate you, even in peace. What do you think will happen when we deal with the pissants in the middle east and then go looking to payback "our friends/parasites" from the toilet that is old Europe.
On a lighter note, I disrespect the French daily,and treat them with utter disdain just to let them know that this country is not full of forgiving liberal pussies..it is full of individuals like myself who have hated france for over a decade and will now be recruiting and inciting others to display their hate for that shithole..I encourage all of you to fan the flames until the government declares france an official enemy.
By the way, is spain a real country? I forgot that they existed..kind of like dogshit on the sidewalk that you notice only to walk around it so as not to step in it.

Yes, it is good to see other Americans getting mad. France will lose in this debate! America will take Iraq unilaterally if the British can't help. We'll then install our own temporary military government ensuring our economic and political objectives are achieved while France looks in from the outside. Their billions of dollars in investments and sales of military spare parts to Iraq will be gone forever. This is actually part of their fear that the US WILL topple Saddam and uncover illegal activities. Either way they're screwed and they know it.

So France, keep it up. You're alianating more Americans every day.

As for Germany, where are your aliances - with France? Come on now get real! You can't honestly believe the German government wants to sleep with the likes of the French? That's like sleeping with a dog.

Looks like our soldiers share our sentiments about the French:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-610213,00.html

I wrote awhile back that we should give back the Statue of Liberty to France and make our own, but I think a better idea would be to melt it down and make a bomb out of it and drop it on Paris.

E.B.

Easy on Spain. Remember, without Spain screwing buffalos and Aztec Indians, we wouldn't have Mexicans! Without Mexican's who's going to mow my fricken lawn?
Oooooh, now I got it. I can have the French mow it. quiero poner me pene en medio tus esposas piernes. Penche bendejo!

Great idea about the Status of Liberty. Can't we just attach a rocket to it and send it direct from where it sits?

Question:

What does a person do who has nothing to be 'proud' of when it comes to his country, whose country has lost every major war it has ever started, whose country engaged in government-sponsored mass murder and genocide against an entire group of people, whose country was torn in half and had a wall built through its largest city so that the Soviet Union could enslave their conquered, and whose country is now occupied by European armies including Britain and France and by armies from America, because of all of its past war crimes and incivilities towards the civilized world?

Answer:

See Sturm's last, pathetic post.

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Sturm, if you are an example of a typical German, then there is little wondering as to why your nation has been such a FUCK UP throughout history, and why America had little trouble WHOOPING your sorry, pathetic asses twice in two world wars.

Oh, and why our tanks are still sitting in your front yards. ;-)

How's your thousand-year reich going, Sturm?

In your own words, Sturm, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"

"Reasons for war (pay attention, please):

1) Saddam Hussein, who has been a violent, unstable dictator of Iraq since 1979, and who has demonstrated his violence and unstableness by first attacking Iran, then by attacking and invading Kuwait, has been trying to develop weapons of mass destruction ever since he came into power, even after he signed surrender terms in 1991 in which he promised to no longer do so, in order to avoid being physically removed from power."

-> I fully agree that Saddam is a dictator. However, it was partly US-supported (as well as French-supported, I do not want to say US are the bad guy and France is the good duy in this business). Proof : http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/index.htm#docs -> these are declassified under the Freedom of Information Act, and you probably can read them yorself on this (very interesting) site.
-> As far as mass destruction weapons are concerned, there are 3 kinds of them :
- Nuclear : obviously, Saddam was a few month from getting the bomb when he invaded Kuwait. Still, is it a threat to anyone but the Iraqis given that having an A-bomb means that you need at least a few months, and more reasonnably a few years before you can drop it efficiently (for example, France has had the A-bomb since 1960 but was able to drop it on any part of the globe only in 1971). It is a common knowledge that any senior year physics student can build an A-bomb if given the necessary uranium, but it is also common knowledge that having it blow up when and where you want is a very serious issue.
- Biological : this is impossible to check whether they have some or not because it is produced very easily in small places with littke equipment. It is officially banned for all states on Earth to develop such weapons (so how come these rumours that anthrax letters would come out of a US lab ? I'm joking, for sure, every important state - not only the US, but also France, Russia, China ...- does probably have illegal biological military programs). Something important is that it cannot be easily used militarily, for you do't know if your own soldiers won't get the disease. However, it is very efficient against civilians.
- Chemical weapons : these ones are "funny" ones : they only kill civilians and unprepared armies. This means that they are not threatening western armies, which have the appropriate equipment. So maybe for civilians... Still the problem of carrying them from Iraq to US or Israel remains, and obviously - as the inspections showed - they are unable to launch a massive attack, even at Israel.
-> as far as respecting signed treaties, this is for sure, but US (among many other states, I do not want to point them out particularly but prove that US are not whiter than others) signed the ABM treaty, and planned to develop NMD program (which is forbidden by ABM treaty which they would have to denounce). It also owes money to the UNO, and, less recently, the Indian tribes / USA treaties were massively broken (and not by Indians).

"Should Saddam be successful in developing a nuclear weapon, he has demonstrated his potential of using such a device indiscriminately upon any who he perceives are his enemies, by his previous actions of attacking Iran, then Kuwait (as noted); by attacking Israeli civilians in the 1991 war, with SCUD missiles; by dumping millions of gallons of crude, Kuwaiti oil into the Persian Gulf while he was occupying Kuwait; by setting every one of Kuwait's oil wells on fire during his occupation there; by using deadly, poisonous gasses on citizens of his own country, the Kurds, which is an egregious war crime prosecutable by the United Nation's World Court; by collaborating with Al Queda, a renown terrorist group responsible for 9/11, who would love to obtain such weapons from Saddam Hussein; etc."

--> As far as nuclear weapons are concerned, read above. About attacking Israeli civilians, this can be related to a war declaration to Israel (by the way, had they a peace treaty or even a ceasefire signed ? I don't think so (to be ckecked). So they (probably) were technically at war with Israel, and the bombing of Israel is an act of war). Another remark : bombings of Dresden by the Brits in 45, or dropping an A-bomb on Hiroshima were civilian friendly acts ? Of course not, but it is accepted as part of the war. I don't know for dumping oil, but the "official" reason was that they feared an ally landing in the Bassorah / Kuwait region, and it was a good way to prevent it. And the burnt land policy is not exclusive to Saddam, it was already used against Napoleon'Grande Armee by the Russians, and led to his fall.
--> Gasing its own people is a point of view : if you consider that Kurds should have their own state and support it, then it is not against its own people but against the Kurds. Still I condemn this, of course.
--> Connections with Al Qaeda are a very interesting subject, but the proofs about it are like Santa Claus, everybody talks about them and nobody saw them. Even the Spaniards have renounced to this argument... But if you - or the US governement - can bring them, everybody will agree that this argument is important and could justify a US military response (in defense against 11S attacks). Anyway, Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia... Pakistan - among others - are or have been well known states that support(ed) terrorism. Were there strikes against them, and is it planned ? So why Iraq and noy Lybia, Pakistan etc. ?

"And since Saddam won't stop developing these weapons, then brighter heads than yours have determined that he is a very serious threat to the safety and security of the United States and its allies."

--> Sure, if they are brighter than me... What I think is that US are going at war for oil and for terrorism : the basic idea is to pressure up Saudi Arabia so that it does not support Al Qaeda (but they are precious ally in this region, so US cannot afford an open war against them). And the pressure will be through the control of Iraqi oil - and thus Saudi money. Still you are right, it is a war on terror, but not on Iraqi terror...

"Now, however, according to the liberal, leftist, communist press, Saddam Hussein, who has been a ruthless dictator of Iraq since 1979, is a victim of mean, ol' George W, a person who was the former owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, a former governor of Texas, elected through somewhat fair and honest elections, and who has only been president for 2 years in a country which held somewhat fair and honest elections to elect him."

--> refering to this election is not very relevant : 37 days for the Supreme Court to forbid the re-counting of Florida votes and say Bush Jr is president (although the judiciary branch is not supposed to interfere with the executive branch), and a president elected with 530,000 votes LESS then his runner up, this is a great election and a nice lesson of democracy. Had this occured in Egypt, the "international community" would have claimed the elections were a masquerade...

"I fully agree that Saddam is a dictator. However, it was partly US-supported (as well as French-supported, I do not want to say US are the bad guy and France is the good duy in this business). Proof : http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/index.htm#docs -> these are declassified under the Freedom of Information Act, and you probably can read them yorself on this (very interesting) site."

These dates, from the information your provided, are listed from 1979 to 1984, a period of only five years from when Saddam was first "elected" as president of Iraq. This is not a long enough time for any nation to determine that dishonest elections are being held and that Saddam was setting himself up as a corrupt dictator. In America, our own president is allowed to serve 8 years.

"-> As far as mass destruction weapons are concerned, there are 3 kinds of them :
- Nuclear : obviously, Saddam was a few month from getting the bomb when he invaded Kuwait. Still, is it a threat to anyone but the Iraqis given that having an A-bomb means that you need at least a few months, and more reasonnably a few years before you can drop it efficiently (for example, France has had the A-bomb since 1960 but was able to drop it on any part of the globe only in 1971). It is a common knowledge that any senior year physics student can build an A-bomb if given the necessary uranium, but it is also common knowledge that having it blow up when and where you want is a very serious issue."

That is ridiculous. Should Saddam develop such devices, they will indeed blow up when they want them to, and this means they can blow up when planted in any large city.

"- Biological : this is impossible to check whether they have some or not because it is produced very easily in small places with littke equipment. It is officially banned for all states on Earth to develop such weapons (so how come these rumours that anthrax letters would come out of a US lab ? I'm joking, for sure, every important state - not only the US, but also France, Russia, China ...- does probably have illegal biological military programs). Something important is that it cannot be easily used militarily, for you do't know if your own soldiers won't get the disease. However, it is very efficient against civilians."

Yes, it is, and it is frightening to know that a person as unstable and hostile as Saddam may have such things. A person who has already used poison gas on his own people.

"- Chemical weapons : these ones are "funny" ones : they only kill civilians and unprepared armies. This means that they are not threatening western armies, which have the appropriate equipment."

What a joke. This "equipment" must be in use in order for it to work, and a surprise attack could indeed kill troops.

"So maybe for civilians..."

"MAYBE?" Care to allow some of it to be put on you so you can see if "MAYBE" it hurts you?

"Still the problem of carrying them from Iraq to US or Israel remains, and obviously - as the inspections showed - they are unable to launch a massive attack, even at Israel."

Is that right. It only take a single drop of nerve gas on the skin of a human being to kill a human being.

You do the rest of the math.

"-> as far as respecting signed treaties, this is for sure, but US (among many other states, I do not want to point them out particularly but prove that US are not whiter than others) signed the ABM treaty, and planned to develop NMD program (which is forbidden by ABM treaty which they would have to denounce). It also owes money to the UNO, and, less recently, the Indian tribes / USA treaties were massively broken (and not by Indians)."

Then if you feel that the U.S. poses a threat to you or your country, then declare war on the U.S. and see if you can correct your perceived problems.

The U.S. is not a threat to peaceful nations operating within the law and within reason.

"--> As far as nuclear weapons are concerned, read above."

I have, and it's ridiculous.

"About attacking Israeli civilians, this can be related to a war declaration to Israel (by the way, had they a peace treaty or even a ceasefire signed ? I don't think so (to be ckecked). So they (probably) were technically at war with Israel, and the bombing of Israel is an act of war)."

What is your point? Israel did not attack Iraq in 1991 during the Gulf War, nor has Israel ever bombed indiscriminate targets in Iraq.

"Another remark : bombings of Dresden by the Brits in 45, or dropping an A-bomb on Hiroshima were civilian friendly acts ? Of course not, but it is accepted as part of the war."

Germany and Japan were the INSTIGATORS. They STARTED THE WAR. The allies who bombed them did so in DEFENSE, not as a form of AGGRESSION.

Nice sophistical try, liberal.

"I don't know for dumping oil, but the "official" reason was that they feared an ally landing in the Bassorah / Kuwait region, and it was a good way to prevent it."

How could it have been a "good way to prevent it?" Crude oil doesn't burn well, and the tides moved it all over the Persian Gulf. All the allies had to do, if they wanted to land there, was to wait a few days.

Saddam did it because he didn't give a damn about the environment, and because he is a mad fool. His armies were crushed in days, and the dumped oil did nothing to stop it.

"And the burnt land policy is not exclusive to Saddam, it was already used against Napoleon'Grande Armee by the Russians, and led to his fall."

Oh, I see, so Napoleon lit all of Russia's oil wells on fire, is that it? Napoleon was a ruthless war criminal, too, so your analogy is worthless. He invaded nations at will, until he met his Waterloo.

You attempt to try and justify the actions of one criminal by saying that other criminals have done the same or similar things.

"--> Gasing its own people is a point of view : if you consider that Kurds should have their own state and support it, then it is not against its own people but against the Kurds. Still I condemn this, of course."

No, you don't "condemn it," for if you condemned it you wouldn't have stated the prior before saying you "condemned it." You are looking for a way to make an EXCUSE for it, asshole. The Kurds lived in Iraq, they were gassed in Iraq. Case closed.

"--> Connections with Al Qaeda are a very interesting subject, but the proofs about it are like Santa Claus, everybody talks about them and nobody saw them."

And you have interviewed "everybody," I take it? Shut the fuck up, specious liberal asshole.

"Even the Spaniards have renounced to this argument... But if you - or the US governement - can bring them, everybody will agree that this argument is important and could justify a US military response (in defense against 11S attacks)."

If the U.S. and its allies say they have the information, I believe them. I am not dumb enough to believe Saddam or his allies who are making money off of Saddam, like France, Germany and Russia.

"Anyway, Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia... Pakistan - among others - are or have been well known states that support(ed) terrorism. Were there strikes against them, and is it planned ? So why Iraq and noy Lybia, Pakistan etc. ?"

Because apparently Iran, Libya, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have not yet demonstrated to have the type of person in charge of their governments as Iraq has, to the degree of Saddam Hussein, who is dangerous enough to distribute such weapons to terrorists. However, should the United States determine that such a thing does indeed exist, then they will be next, I am sure.

You do what you do, and let the U.S. fight its own wars and enforce its own policies, fool.

"--> Sure, if they are brighter than me..."

"If?" a pimple on George W's ass is brighter than you, bub.

"What I think is that US are going at war for oil and for terrorism : the basic idea is to pressure up Saudi Arabia so that it does not support Al Qaeda (but they are precious ally in this region, so US cannot afford an open war against them). And the pressure will be through the control of Iraqi oil - and thus Saudi money. Still you are right, it is a war on terror, but not on Iraqi terror..."

Why would the U.S. go to war against Iraq for "oil," when it can get oil from all over the world, and when it refused to even buy Iraqi oil during its sanctions against Iraq? If the U.S. wished to invade a country for its oil, then why didn't the U.S. just stay and occupy Kuwait and take its oil, then, or why didn't it go into Baghdad in 1991, when it had its troops there, then, and take Iraq's oil then?

"--> refering to this election is not very relevant : 37 days for the Supreme Court to forbid the re-counting of Florida votes and say Bush Jr is president (although the judiciary branch is not supposed to interfere with the executive branch), and a president elected with 530,000 votes LESS then his runner up, this is a great election and a nice lesson of democracy."

Yes, it shows how the CHECKS AND BALANCES built into our government prevented the LIBERAL, Democrat party in America from STEALING the election from George W.

"Had this occured in Egypt, the "international community" would have claimed the elections were a masquerade..."

Had this occurred in Egypt, the "international community" wouldn't have cared.

I have been reading around on the internet although I do not have the time and patience to find and post links, I will state a few "theories" as to why France and Germany are opposing this.

France:
- France has recently as last fall got 81 of its own companies exclusive business contracts with the Iraqi government.
- France owns a great deal of the oil contracts. If the restrictions on Iraq's oil sales and international business were lifted, France would profit a great deal.
- France has been smuggling aircraft parts and rocket fuel through Syria to Iraq, thus violating un sanctions.
- If the US were to unilaterally attack, the UN could not supress the world finding out these details and France would be scorned by the free world.

Germany
- Germany has been providing weapons material to Iraq thus violating UN sanctions.
- Germany has a tight relationship with the world terrorist community and connections will be shown as soon as Iraq falls.

Lang lebe das Vaterland!
Germany for ever!
EUROPA - Die Zukunft gehört UNS!

You are all monkeys. I have never seen one of your fucking abrahams or other tanks, only some soldiers.you are not controlling us.

Wir sind die Besten! Und wir werden es auch immer bleiben!

Europe-Still ze best...

You are correct, L33t American.

I know zere are amerikan troops in germany.
But u control hier nothing of us. Our german Bundeswehr ist of course bigger zan your troops here. Zere are OF COURSE more german Soldiers in germany zan us soldiers. So u cant control and occupying us.
"A few troops is all it takes to control your types, no armor is needed."
Hehehe!
U have ilusions...
Gute german womans do nothing with your lausigen amerikans.

Wir sind die Besten!
Europa-Neue Ordnung! Nichts kann uns stoppen!
Europe-Nothing kan stop us!

We should refer to what was once germany, as "vaterland, US territory", as we conquored this pathetic land many years ago. My god, to be occupied by france????? Ouch, that has got to be painful.

Hey sturm, if you shit eaters are so confident of your strength in numbers, why don't you expel our OCCUPYING troops? If we do not control you, why do we still OCCUPY your country? I would say that the US has complete control of vaterland, US territory, as evidenced by the ongoing Millitary OCCUPATION. After all, we can't leave you children
to your own devices. You are obviously not capable of leading your own lives, so we must police you, and show you how a normal society functions ( eg; not making ridiculous repeated attempts at world conquest, even after embarrasing defeats).

No, sturm, I can see your point about your virtuous german women not having anything to do with US soldiers. They are delicate flowers, after all. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sturm, your women eat the shit of other human beings for sexual satisfaction! These whores would go down on Egyptians if they agreed to shit in their mouths afterwards, and perhaps have a go at them with a gewinnspiel. Something tells me that they would have little problem fucking every American Soldier available. My only hope is that the soldiers do not use condoms, so that we can breed your shit eating culture entirely out of existence.

Liberals, Communists, where is the difference? We once led a worldwide effort to crush Communism, and did so to a large degree. How is it that we have allowed these asshole liberals to grow out of the sewers of America? George W pisses on your politics, and obviously so do the majority of Americans who matter. If this were not the case, how would Congress look the way it does? Liberals are idiot children who have not encountered the human experience, so they do not understand it. Build up some scar tissue, nico, then come talk to me. It is obvious that you have forgotten 9/11, and unfortunately, did not lose any family there. If you had, you would be one step closer to evolved ( or conservative) thought. George W is the best thing to happen to America in many years.

U DONNT DONT DONT DONT(!!!!!!!) occupy us! Ze german Bundeswehr ist much better and Bigger zan your troops hier in Germany. Zere are many more german soldiers zan amis in ze Vaterland. So u dont control us! Akzept it, little amerikan.

EUROPA- Die Macht der Zukunft!

You're funny, Sturm.

Oh, and suffering from delusions, also.

Kind of like Hitler, who believed there were many hidden divisions that were going to save him.

Apparently, denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Hey Sturm, here's a little picture for you to see:

http://www.swan.ac.uk/history/teaching/teaching%20resources/Post-War%20Reconstruction/WestGermany.htm

France has win at the UN debate. U.S. and her british bitch do not even try to solicit a vote on their stupid resolution.
Yous want boycott France. allright ! It's not a problem for us.
But the whole world boycott U.S.

We'll kick your ass too, France, when we find all the illegal weapons you have sold to Iraq during U.N. sanctions.

Why don't you fight on the side of Iraq, so we can blast you to smithereens, too.

Boycott that, sissies.

You say that you want to boycott French products such as wine, cheese, water... Don't you know that the first people that will loose their job because of this boycott, will be all the American sellers which are specialized in French products. I've seen on TV that an American seller has decided to stop selling French Water Evian. Poor guy... He doesn't even know that Coca-Cola is the distributor of Evian in the USA. It means that if there is a dicrease in Evian's sales in the USA (due to the boycott), Coca-Cola will fire hundreds or thousands of American distributors... So, let's boycott French products if you want...
PS : American helicopters manufacturer Sikorsky has just ordered tens of French Engines...
"Business is business"...There is no real boycott. Sorry guys...

peace, you are obviously not keeping up with current events. there most certainly is a boycott, and it is going to get a whole lot nastier.coca cola does distribute evian, but they carry many other waters as well. what Americans don't buy in evian, they will buy in a similar product that is not native to a country of sissy traitors. or, are you suggesting that evian drinkers will stop drinking altogether? yours is one of the stupidest arguments i have heard, and remember, i have listened to sturm! the importers of french product will merely turn to a less controversial product and maintain their business, or they can stick with the cowardly french, and go under. either way it works out. hey sturm, if you are not occupied by the US, what do you call having a foreign nation's armed forces in your homeland policing your movements? if you are not occupied, why haven't you kicked us out? or are you planning to wait another, oh, say 50 years to act on this? you are an occupied country. face it.live with it, because you have no alternative.

List of French products:

Air France. Air Liquide. Airbus. Alcatel. Allegra (allergy medication). Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest). AXA Advisors

Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas). Beneteau (boats). BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin). BIC (razors, pens and lighters). Biotherm (cosmetics). Black Bush. Bollinger (champagne).

Car & Driver Magazine. Cartier. Chanel. Chivas Regal (scotch). Christian Dior. Club Med (vacations). Culligan (owned by Vivendi).

Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods). DKNY. Dom Perignon. Durand Crystal

Elle Magazine. Essilor Optical Products. Evian.

Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields). First Hawaiian Bank.

George Magazine. Givenchy. Glenlivet (scotch).

Hennessy. Houghton Mifflin (books).

International Herald Tribune.

Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989). Jameson (whiskey). Jerry Springer (talk show)

Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).

Lancome. Le Creuset (cookware). L'Oreal (health and beauty products). Louis Vuitton.

Marie Claire. Martel Cognac. Maybelline. Méphisto (shoes and clothes). Michelin (tires and auto parts). Mikasa (crystal and glass). Moet (champagne). Motel 6. Motown Records. MP3.com. Mumms (champagne).

Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault). Nivea. Normany Butter.

Parents Magazine. Peugeot (automobiles). Pierre Cardin. Playstation Magazine. ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France). Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).

RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics). Red Magazine. Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France). Renault (automobiles). Road & Track Magazine. Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France). Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.). Royal Canadian.

Salomon (skis). Seagram's Gin. Sierra Software and Computer Games. Smart & Final. Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor). Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone). Spencer Gifts. Sundance Channel.

Taylor Made (golf). Technicolor. T-Fal (kitchenware). Total gas stations.

UbiSoft (computer games). Uniroyal. Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks; owned by Vivendi-Universal). USFilter.

Veritas Group. Veuve Clicquot Champagne. Vittel. Vivendi.

Wild Turkey (bourbon). Woman's Day Magazine.

Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake). Yves Saint Laurent.

Zodiac Inflatable Boats.

E.B.,

Your are talking about French products to be boycotted ? Just for your information, after US Firm Sikorsky has ordered 20 French engines on March the 11th, American airlines JetBlue has signed on March the 13th, a US$20 million contracts with French Company Airbus.
So, tell me, where is the boycott of French products ?

Oh. Very gut. Zere are French Kamerades!
Bonjour "France is shining"! Et Bonjour Peace!
Europe rulez! Vivre l`Europe! Es lebe Europa!
Boykot US- Produkts!

Europa- Der Sieg wird unser sein!

"Your are talking about French products to be boycotted ? Just for your information, after US Firm Sikorsky has ordered 20 French engines on March the 11th, American airlines JetBlue has signed on March the 13th, a US$20 million contracts with French Company Airbus.
So, tell me, where is the boycott of French products ?" - Peace

Obviously, wherever things are being boycotted. Your answer is specious and is like saying if it is not raining in Paris, then where is it raining in France?

It's raining in France, and hopefully in Paris, soon. The more this information gets out, the more rain will fall, until it turns into a storm.

E.B.

peace- more gibberish from a foolish liberal. your logic is hilarious! because an American company has the poor foresight to sign contracts with a french industry, there is no boycott? that makes alot of sense. let me explain to you what is going to happen: first, the US is going to invade and conquer iraq, and in short order. next, the french and german interests in this conquored nation are going to be revealed very publicly. then comes the punishment stage; if the UN has not backed the invasion of iraq, they will have proven themselves ineffective, and will be disbanded. the US will then turn its sights on traitors like france and germany, and starve them out through stringent trade sanctions, which will relegate these laughable countries to trade within themselves. in other words, they will quickly become the equivalents of the third world nations they now seek to support. before long, they will be horribly abusing their women, forcing them to cover their heads, and praying to heathen religions steeped in anti- humanity rhetoric. they will be living in caves and mudhuts, ranting against civilized society while wallowing in their own filth, and eating food not fit for an animal in the US.

so prepare yourself, mr. peace, because as long as there is an extremist wing of the muslim faith, there will be no peace, because these people would never allow it. time to grow up and look at the real source of trouble.

France and Germany will soon be shown to be the LOSERS that they are, when the U.S. and Britain invade Iraq and bring the regime of Saddam Hussein to a close. It is a win win situation for America and Britain, for they can't lose either way. For they will bring democracy to Iraq and be treated as liberators by the oppressed Iraqi's, and France and Germany will be found out to have been unlawful collaborators with Iraq by selling them unlawful weapons and weapons components. And if Saddam attempts to use biological, chemical or nuclear weapons on the American-led coalition, America and Britain will have been proven right to the entire world that Iraq did indeed possess the weapons that France and Germany have sided with Iraq in claiming that they do not exist.

France and Germany will be shamed and hopefully expunged from the Security Council for selling illegal weapons to Iraq, and hopefully they will be made to pay, by the new Security Council that will be established after the war.

Imagine a toe-hold of democracy in a region in where Islam is the only lawful religion, in where freedom of religion will be established and able to spread and influence the oppressive Muslim regimes that surround that area.

The plan is brilliant by America and Britain, and they can't lose. The only real threat is from increased terrorism, but that will only serve to strengthen the resolve of America and Britain, and bring even more destruction to the Islamic terrorist network.

Long live America and Great Britain, and may they make France pay for their corruption and animosity. Especially a France saved twice by Britain and America.

I like you fucking damn funny NERDS

hit them once: they start whining

hit them twice: they stop and die!

Poor Sturm. How did you like the news that the US plans to relocate their bases in germany to other, more COOPERATIVE areas of europe??? Boy, berlin is crying the blues that this is retribution. Gee, what do you think? Looks like you germs will be eating shit for your meals as well as your pleasure!

Hey folks, the war will start within 1 week. Piss on france and the UN. Iraq is 1st. Iran is next. North korea? well, those numnuts better straighten the f*** up. its pretty simple, once these rogue nations are colonized by the US and Brits, we will see an everlasting peace.

WE DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to hunt down every last terrorist and kill them in their retched caves!

You muslims better speak up if you dont agree with radical islam, because these radicals are hijacking your religion.

I understand that islam is a peace loving religion.

The French are just trying to act as if they are a superpower, (they're definitely not).

These terrorists have awakened a sleeping giant, whose wrath can be mighty and terrible.

You claim we are trying to Americanize the world. Well, stop buying our products!

Im out. Late.

GOD BLESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH. GOD BLESS THE USA! SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TALKING SO LONG YOU ARE ALMOST LIKE OLD FRIENDS. SOMETIMES I WAVER ON THIS BOMB FRANCE THING. IT IS GOOD FOR SOME LAUGHS, AND TENSION RELEASE. I'M READY FOR BOMBING SADAAM ( IN HIS GERMAN MADE BUNKER). GOOD NIGHT, OLD FRIENDS.

I think the person who answered me did not understand what I meant, so I guess it is my fault and I have to explain again :

- Nuclear weapons : there are two parts in a nuclear weapon, the nuke itself and the missile or bomb that carries it. The nuke itself is not very difficult to build, at least theoretically. Still you have to test you control the process of building it, its power and so on (because talking about one kind of nuclear weapons is a complete non sense - I'll explain later). If you put your nuke in a bomber, this means that you are confident enough that you can have a conventional bomber fly over the target zone and drop a bomb. In the case of Iraq, this is highly improbable for they no longer have any air force, and moreover they are watched by all radars in the region and would be shot down minutes after taking off. In the case of missiles, then this requires high technology to build them so that they can reach targets in a long range. Moreover, there is an optimal altitude at which it has to blow up, so it is rather difficult to have it blow exactly where and when you want. So basically, what I meant is that the only danger with Saddam having nuclear weapons is that he blows himself up... Which obviously is not a threat to the rest of the world.
- Biological weapons : officially they do not exist, and here we are...
- Chemical weapons : there is something I don't understand with chemical weapons, i.e. I think they are not forbidden by international treaties (or yes they are but states reserve their right to use them if struck first - say they are not forbidden). Then my second point was that these weapons are not very efficient against soldiers for the following reasons :
1) if you wear a gas mask AND a protection clothes, they do not work.
2) if the wind changes, or if it freezes (unlikely in Iraq), they are useless.
3) your own soldiers need protection, or else they might get killed too.
4) every modern army does have individual chemical equipment, so probably the Iraqi army is less equipment in this aspect of the war.
Conclusion : chemical weapons are not a threat to anyone in the region (as far as soldiers are concerned) except maybe the Iraqis themselves. As far as civilians are concerned, the only civilians who could reasonably fear an Iraqi chemical attack are the Israeli, for obvious reasons of bomb delivering by the Iraqi. Question : do you think that Saddam does have the means to launch a massive attack on Israel ? In 91, when all his military potential was available, he was only able to launch a few scuds, which is definitely not a massive attack (although obviously I would not have enjoyed being under it when it falls). So now, the question about chemical weapons : is he really dangerous to anyone in the region now ?

For your information, a few facts about nuclear weapons :
- optimum altitude : a few kilometers above ground, or else there will be such a radioactivity that land cannot be exploited, and the power of the nuke is not optimal either.
- Alternatively, it can be used to blow up at a very high altitude, in order to destroy all electronic devices, and forbid all wave communications.
- US have all the range of atomic bombs, from the smallest to the biggest (flexible response theory). USSR used to have also the full range, but for different reasons : smallest as powerful field artillery, biggest in order to have them blow up at very high altitude. France only has big bombs, and they are only targeted at large cities (civilian targets, not military targets) -> hallowed territory theory.
Now a few facts about chemical weapons (open your eyes) :
- Chemical weapons include a large range of chemical products, divided in many categories. Tear or laughing gases are also classified as chemical weapons and could be used in a conflict. Another kind of chemical weapons is the "herbicide", massively used by US in the Vietnam war (napalm, agent orange). I am sorry, but if this is not chemical, then what is it ?
- What most people call "chemical weapons" is actually in the category "neurotoxic gases". These range from very basic Yperite to Lewisite and "modern" gases such as VX, Tabun, Sarin and so on.
- Funny detail : neurotoxic gases are classified into 2 categories (G and A). G stands for German and relates to gases developed by German scientist for Nazi Germany during WW2. A stands for American and relates to the gases developed by the same German scientists for US just after WW2.
- Modern neurotoxic gases do not smell and are invisible. To my knowledge Yperite does not have these qualities, but it is now considered as a very poor weapon. The quality of being invisible is of paramount importance, for it would allow attacked people to flee to a shelter (pure air). Invisible gases make any feeing useless.
- There are 4 ways a neurotoxic gas can kill someone : respiratory (if you breathe it), digestively (if you eat it), skin contact (if you touch it) and the most useful through the skin (i.e. if you wear a gas mask and are attacked by neurotoxic gases, they will enter your body through your skin and kill you). Modern neurotoxic gases have all 4 ways of entering your body capabilities. This means that you need "chemical" clothing to get protected. This also means that mass distribution of gas masks to the civilian population is useless in a military way, but useful politically because they don't panic.

Now a few remarks concerning the comments you wrote (I 'l try to replace it in the context, but please refer to the original text) :

[about a chemical attack] "What a joke. This "equipment" must be in use in order for it to work, and a surprise attack could indeed kill troops."
-> If US soldiers' guns are not in order for use when they attack, then US should reconsider sending troops to a fight where the enemy might have guns. The same reasoning applies to chemical weapons. Moreover, if Saddam attacks (or should I say defends himself), then obviously his goal will be to kill troops. Doesn't it look logical that Saddam soldiers want to kill US troops ?

[About US not respecting international treaties] "Then if you feel that the U.S. poses a threat to you or your country, then declare war on the U.S. and see if you can correct your perceived problems."
-> International treaties = law ; if US keep saying "we do not respect law, but anyone who does not agree can still declare war on us and we can see who's the most powerful", then of course no one will declare war on the US because they are the most powerful military nation in the world. Still, what could be the consequences for France, Russia or China ? Then they stop disarming and start getting more and more weapons in order to face a new threat that would be US. And I do not want to believe that France and US are not allies and friends...
BTW I forgot to mention the Guantanamo bay Talibans in the list of treaties broken by the US : I hope (I am pretty sure) the war against Iraq will be finished very fast, but if I were a US soldier, then I would like the perspective to be a Saddam prisoner, because Geneva conventions apply as much to Talibans as to US soldiers...

[Still about international treaties] "The U.S. is not a threat to peaceful nations operating within the law and within reason."

-> if the criterion is peaceful and within the aw nations, then you are perfectly wrong (see http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/19980911.htm about the Chile coup - by the way, Mr. Kissinger is looked after many western polices on this topic). If you had reasonable, then you could say anyone whose politics bother you are "unreasonable"...

[About bombing civilians] "Germany and Japan were the INSTIGATORS. They STARTED THE WAR. The allies who bombed them did so in DEFENSE, not as a form of AGGRESSION."
-> I had never seen the bombing of Hiroshima as a defense, and even when thinking twice I do not see it as a defense... My point is not that US were wrong in doing this, my point is that civilians should be spared unless they are located where strategical targets are.

[About oil drips in the Gulf] "How could it have been a "good way to prevent it?" Crude oil doesn't burn well, and the tides moved it all over the Persian Gulf. All the allies had to do, if they wanted to land there, was to wait a few days.
Saddam did it because he didn't give a damn about the environment, and because he is a mad fool. His armies were crushed in days, and the dumped oil did nothing to stop it."

-> There is little tide in the Persian Gulf (closed sea). The idea was to make it impossible for boats to use harbors, because it is difficult to operate them.
Saddam surely does not give a damn about environment, but neither does the US (the US Senate refuses to ratify the Kyoto protocol on greenhouse gases...). Still I do not blame the US on that topic, others are no better (but not worst).

[About burnt land policy] "Oh, I see, so Napoleon lit all of Russia's oil wells on fire, is that it? Napoleon was a ruthless war criminal, too, so your analogy is worthless. He invaded nations at will, until he met his Waterloo."

-> I am afraid you are wrong : the Russians burnt their own land so that Napoleon cannot get food nor shelter. Given that Saddam invaded Kuwait claiming it was historically a part of Iraq (which is true !!!), then, following his logic he burnt his own oil wells.

[About proofs of inks between Al Qaeda and Iraq] "If the U.S. and its allies say they have the information, I believe them. I am not dumb enough to believe Saddam or his allies who are making money off of Saddam, like France, Germany and Russia."

-> Up to now, US have only convinced Spain, UK and Bulgaria. It is trying hard to pressure other countries (like Pakistan, whose name in the US list of antidemocratic countries disappeared this week-end). Moreover, even Spain does not believe that there are links with Al Qaeda and now explains that Saddam is an ugly dictator civilized countries should remove. I am still waiting for official documents to prove that Saddam helped, sheltered Al Qaeda terrorists, or even planned a terrorist attack on US. As long as these proofs are not public, I will not believe it (and even after Saddam's fall, I am pretty sure the CIA can do a pretty good job in building up proofs of it, of France's support and so on...).

"I think the person who answered me did not understand what I meant, so I guess it is my fault and I have to explain again :"

I understood you, you're an IDIOT.

"- Nuclear weapons : there are two parts in a nuclear weapon, the nuke itself and the missile or bomb that carries it. The nuke itself is not very difficult to build, at least theoretically. Still you have to test you control the process of building it, its power and so on (because talking about one kind of nuclear weapons is a complete non sense - I'll explain later). If you put your nuke in a bomber, this means that you are confident enough that you can have a conventional bomber fly over the target zone and drop a bomb. In the case of Iraq, this is highly improbable for they no longer have any air force, and moreover they are watched by all radars in the region and would be shot down minutes after taking off. In the case of missiles, then this requires high technology to build them so that they can reach targets in a long range. Moreover, there is an optimal altitude at which it has to blow up, so it is rather difficult to have it blow exactly where and when you want. So basically, what I meant is that the only danger with Saddam having nuclear weapons is that he blows himself up... Which obviously is not a threat to the rest of the world."

As I said, you are an IDIOT. Have you ever heard of suitcase-size nuclear weapons? Now, have you ever heard of OPEN BORDERS in the U.S.? I don't know where you live, jackass, but where I live we have MILLIONS of illegal aliens roaming about, who came across the border unchecked, bringing all sorts of things with them. No enemy of ours needs any missiles or bombers to deliver nuclear weapons in America, all they have to do is smuggle them in across our open borders, put them in Cessnas, fly over a city and BLAMMO!!

You're a freaking, uniformed idiot.

"- Biological weapons : officially they do not exist, and here we are..."

Oh yea, "officially they do not exist", so there you have it to the idiot.

"- Chemical weapons : there is something I don't understand with chemical weapons, i.e. I think they are not forbidden by international treaties (or yes they are but states reserve their right to use them if struck first - say they are not forbidden). Then my second point was that these weapons are not very efficient against soldiers for the following reasons :
1) if you wear a gas mask AND a protection clothes, they do not work.
2) if the wind changes, or if it freezes (unlikely in Iraq), they are useless.
3) your own soldiers need protection, or else they might get killed too.
4) every modern army does have individual chemical equipment, so probably the Iraqi army is less equipment in this aspect of the war.
Conclusion : chemical weapons are not a threat to anyone in the region (as far as soldiers are concerned) except maybe the Iraqis themselves. As far as civilians are concerned, the only civilians who could reasonably fear an Iraqi chemical attack are the Israeli, for obvious reasons of bomb delivering by the Iraqi. Question : do you think that Saddam does have the means to launch a massive attack on Israel ? In 91, when all his military potential was available, he was only able to launch a few scuds, which is definitely not a massive attack (although obviously I would not have enjoyed being under it when it falls). So now, the question about chemical weapons : is he really dangerous to anyone in the region now ?"

Yes, they are dangerous to EVERYONE in the region, and you don't know what you are talking about. Your reasoning is like saying that because American troops have on Kevlar helmets, that they have nothing to fear from being shot in the head.

I tell you what: Why don't you put on a Kevlar helmet and ask your neighbor to shoot you in the head with a steel-cored military round, and then try to get back with us in here to let us know the results, moron.

"For your information, a few facts about nuclear weapons :
- optimum altitude : a few kilometers above ground, or else there will be such a radioactivity that land cannot be exploited, and the power of the nuke is not optimal either."

And a little fact about Cessna airplanes: They can fly over cities loaded with an atomic bomb.

"- Alternatively, it can be used to blow up at a very high altitude, in order to destroy all electronic devices, and forbid all wave communications."

Alternatively, you must be an embarrassment to your mother.

"- US have all the range of atomic bombs, from the smallest to the biggest (flexible response theory). USSR used to have also the full range, but for different reasons : smallest as powerful field artillery, biggest in order to have them blow up at very high altitude. France only has big bombs, and they are only targeted at large cities (civilian targets, not military targets) -"

Yea, well we are not fighting the U.S. or the USSR. In fact, the USSR doesn't even exist anymore.

"> hallowed territory theory.
Now a few facts about chemical weapons (open your eyes) :
- Chemical weapons include a large range of chemical products, divided in many categories. Tear or laughing gases are also classified as chemical weapons and could be used in a conflict. Another kind of chemical weapons is the "herbicide", massively used by US in the Vietnam war (napalm, agent orange). I am sorry, but if this is not chemical, then what is it ?"

Who gives a shit, and what does that have to do with anything?

"- What most people call "chemical weapons" is actually in the category "neurotoxic gases". These range from very basic Yperite to Lewisite and "modern" gases such as VX, Tabun, Sarin and so on."

Really? boy, aren't you smart. Perhaps you should inform the military on this exciting new information.

"- Funny detail : neurotoxic gases are classified into 2 categories (G and A). G stands for German and relates to gases developed by German scientist for Nazi Germany during WW2. A stands for American and relates to the gases developed by the same German scientists for US just after WW2."

And S stands for the neurotoxic solid sitting in your chair right now. It is also known as SHIT.

"- Modern neurotoxic gases do not smell and are invisible. To my knowledge Yperite does not have these qualities, but it is now considered as a very poor weapon. The quality of being invisible is of paramount importance, for it would allow attacked people to flee to a shelter (pure air). Invisible gases make any feeing useless.
- There are 4 ways a neurotoxic gas can kill someone : respiratory (if you breathe it), digestively (if you eat it), skin contact (if you touch it) and the most useful through the skin (i.e. if you wear a gas mask and are attacked by neurotoxic gases, they will enter your body through your skin and kill you). Modern neurotoxic gases have all 4 ways of entering your body capabilities. This means that you need "chemical" clothing to get protected. This also means that mass distribution of gas masks to the civilian population is useless in a military way, but useful politically because they don't panic."

This guy is a whack job. Somebody gas HIM.

"Now a few remarks concerning the comments you wrote (I 'l try to replace it in the context, but please refer to the original text) :

-> If US soldiers' guns are not in order for use when they attack, then US should reconsider sending troops to a fight where the enemy might have guns. The same reasoning applies to chemical weapons. Moreover, if Saddam attacks (or should I say defends himself), then obviously his goal will be to kill troops. Doesn't it look logical that Saddam soldiers want to kill US troops ?"

Were you dropped on your head when you were born, by chance?

"-> International treaties = law ; if US keep saying "we do not respect law, but anyone who does not agree can still declare war on us and we can see who's the most powerful", then of course no one will declare war on the US because they are the most powerful military nation in the world. Still, what could be the consequences for France, Russia or China ?"

If they threatened us with imminent attack, WAR.

"Then they stop disarming and start getting more and more weapons in order to face a new threat that would be US. And I do not want to believe that France and US are not allies and friends..."

France is no friend, friends don't treat friends the way France has treated the U.S. One of their diplomats has already been verbally suggesting that if the U.S. goes to war we will be committing an international crime. I wanted to reach through the T.V. and slap the crap out of the little French shit. These French want to ignore all the crimes of the Iraqi's, and instead point their lying, conniving fingers at the U.S. who is going to step forward and do something about it.

"BTW I forgot to mention the Guantanamo bay Talibans in the list of treaties broken by the US : I hope (I am pretty sure) the war against Iraq will be finished very fast, but if I were a US soldier, then I would like the perspective to be a Saddam prisoner, because Geneva conventions apply as much to Talibans as to US soldiers..."

Oh, and now you are also an expert on treaties, too, eh.

Fuck you, asshole.

"-> if the criterion is peaceful and within the aw nations, then you are perfectly wrong (see http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/19980911.htm about the Chile coup - by the way, Mr. Kissinger is looked after many western polices on this topic). If you had reasonable, then you could say anyone whose politics bother you are "unreasonable"..."

Yes, anyone whose politics threaten democray and freedom, it does indeed "bother" us.

And let that be a warning to idiots like you, asshole.

"-> I had never seen the bombing of Hiroshima as a defense, and even when thinking twice I do not see it as a defense..."

You can't think at all, dumb ass.

"My point is not that US were wrong in doing this, my point is that civilians should be spared unless they are located where strategical targets are."

Who gives a shit about your point. Civilians will be spared, providing they leave nations and/or war zones which threaten or attack the United States. More civilians would have been killed by conventional weapons in Japan had we not used nuclear weapons. 120,000 were killed during the bombing of Tokyo, far more than either Nagasaki or Hiroshima with a-bombs.

"-> There is little tide in the Persian Gulf (closed sea). The idea was to make it impossible for boats to use harbors, because it is difficult to operate them."

Oh, I see. We'll, apparently Saddam was as dumb as you are. 10 to 1 you weren't even an adult during the war in 1991.

"Saddam surely does not give a damn about environment, but neither does the US (the US Senate refuses to ratify the Kyoto protocol on greenhouse gases...). Still I do not blame the US on that topic, others are no better (but not worst)."

Oh, I see, creating carbon dioxide through auto emissions is the same as deliberately dumping millions of gallons of crude oil into the Persian Gulf.

Once again, fuck you, leftist moron.

"-> I am afraid you are wrong : the Russians burnt their own land so that Napoleon cannot get food nor shelter."

No, I wasn't wrong, I was being something we Americans refer to as "sarcastic." It's like this: You are an idiot, and therefore you are worthy of good ol' American sarcasm.

It's too bad that the Americans were not able to get "food or shelter" after Saddam lit KUWAIT'S oil wells on fire, isn't it.

Do you even know ANYTHING at all?

"Given that Saddam invaded Kuwait claiming it was historically a part of Iraq (which is true !!!), then, following his logic he burnt his own oil wells."

It's NOT TRUE. Iraq wasn't even a nation until after WWI. Kuwait became a nation in 1899, whereas Iraq didn't become a nation until 1932.

Before you open your dumb mouth again, how does a leftist like you feel about Israel's claim to the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and all of Jerusalem?

"-> Up to now, US have only convinced Spain, UK and Bulgaria. It is trying hard to pressure other countries (like Pakistan, whose name in the US list of antidemocratic countries disappeared this week-end)."

Bullshit. It's not about "convincing" anyone, but rather about the corruption of France, Germany, Russia and China, who have all sold weapons and weapon components to post-war Iraq.

"Moreover, even Spain does not believe that there are links with Al Qaeda and now explains that Saddam is an ugly dictator civilized countries should remove."

Oh, so now you speak for Spain, also, eh. I bet Spain is thrilled to have a savvy intellectual like you speaking for them.

"I am still waiting for official documents to prove that Saddam helped, sheltered Al Qaeda terrorists, or even planned a terrorist attack on US."

Well, I am sure they will be arriving on your doorstep soon, you being such an important person and everything. I would imagine that the U.S. and Britain will be confiding in you before they attack Iraq, and seeking your advice on the matter.

"As long as these proofs are not public, I will not believe it (and even after Saddam's fall, I am pretty sure the CIA can do a pretty good job in building up proofs of it, of France's support and so on...)."

I don't blame you, because after all, you have that trustworthy Saddam Hussein to believe, instead.

Bush will be giving Iraq its final warning, tonight. U.S. diplomats have been ordered out of the areas near Iraq. And the French were last seen running when some kid popped a paper bag.

Looks like the U.S. is not going to listen to you, France, and is going into Iraq to kick Saddam Hussein's ass. Whacha gonna do about it, besides whine and cry?

Beware, the Yanks are coming... God bless America...

I'm gonna have a rant. i'm not particularly pro-war but- the manner in which France has conducted itself has been both hypocritical and quite frankly laughable.

Sturm, which Europe are you refering to. DeGaulle's or Churchill's? Either way you are still the bitch of either France or Britain.

With regards to Chirac taking some form of moral position over Iraq - HA! Whose troops are currently in the Congo as mercenaries again, paid for by the Congo government, against UN views- Oh, there French troops.

Who are in Afghanistan currently fighting a conflict alongside american and British troops - germans. Therefore. niether germany nor France have any moral high ground.

Russia are commiting war crimes in chechnya. China is a fucking autocratic nightmare - yet they are allowed to determine international policy. What a joke.

France and Germany can't even hold down a constitutional democracy for more than 100 years at a time - I mean the fucking individual cases of irony go on and on and on.

The facts are as follows. France is a retrospective country with a severe dented pride. That is it can't quite bring itself to thank The UK and the US for saving it in 1945. Germany is just full of mindless slaves who follow whatever the status quo is- be it Fascism, communism or out and out market capitalism. They simply don't think upon an individual capacity.

Germany is a nation of movements, as nietzsche said " a herd menetality."

And what it all culminates in is Britain AGAIN having to fucking stand up and take the lead because the rest of its european colleagues are fucking spineless and ultimately self-interested.

What really pisses me off is that the EU and the euro are genuinely good ideas. But France continuely positions their interests as EUROPE'S INTERESTS! They are not.

France is just as much the imperialist as the US, except it isn't as good as them-and that's what really pisses the french off - that they aren't as powerful as america.

For years France's ego has had to be massaged. i.e. the international diplomatic language had to be french for years - even though English was and is the main language of the world.

French isn't even second - spanish and mandarin are.

Germany must realise - France only wants it for its finance capital - and as soon as France gets it they'll fuck you right off.

So what have we learnt, simply that every western nation has acted in self interest REAL POLITIK. The only difference is, is that the US and the UK aren't fucking faggots and don't pretend to be acting as moralistic martyrs. I don't necessarily agree with them - but at least they don't hide behind popularism and "popular polls."

Fuck off France- you nearly voted for Le Pen-passive aggressive fascists

You are wrong, Tom.

EUROPA!

The United States, Britain and Spain are entirely justified and acting lawfully, according to U.N. Resolution 1441, voted on and passed UNANIMOUSLY by each member of the U.N. Security Council, on November 8th, 2002.

All that's left for France is their whiney voices, their cowardism, and their finger-pointing. And if France would like some of the United States, too, bring it on.

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U.N. Resolution 1441 (excerpt), which was voted on and passed UNANIMOUSLY by each and all members of the U.N. Security Council, on November 8th, 2002.

"Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President,
Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,

Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) MEMBER STATES TO USE ALL NECESSARY MEANS TO UPHOLD AND IMPLEMENT ITS RESOLUTION 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 AND ALL RELEVANT RESOLUTIONS SUBSEQUENT TO RESOLUTION 660 (1990) AND TO RESTORE INTERNATIONAL PEACE AND SECURITY IN THE AREA,

Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) THE COUNCIL DECLARED THAT A CEASEFIRE WOULD BE BASED ON acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, INCLUDING THE OBLIGATIONS ON IRAQ CONTAINED THEREIN,

Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,...

1. DECIDES THAT IRAQ HAS BEEN AND REMAINS IN MATERIAL BREACH OF ITS OBLIGATIONS UNDER RELEVANT RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDING RESOLUTION 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq's failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687 (1991);

13. RECALLS, IN THAT CONTEXT, THAT THE COUNCIL HAS REPEATEDLY WARNED IRAQ THAT IT WILL FACE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES AS A RESULT OF ITS CONTINUED VIOLATIONS OF ITS OBLIGATIONS;"

U.N. Resolution 1441

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Saddam Hussein, your day has come. Vengeance and justice will be brought upon you for all of your murders and acts of oppression against your own people and against the world. And the French will not save you.

God bless America.

Goodbye, inspectors! Bombs over Baghdad! And while we're at it, why dont we shred Paris? That cesspool. A bunch of "cheese eating surrendering peace monkeys" (francesucks.net).

Saddam has already said that if attacked there will be a "wider war". That means....A. he will use links to terrorism to attack American and British interests around the world B. He will resort to using Weps of Mass Destruction.

This proves the American position. Come on France, quit trying to promote your interests and investments in Iraq in the name of peace. We wont be fooled by some dumb Frenchie eating a crossiant, smoking a fag, in some lame cafe. HEE HEE HEE HO HO HO!

At the U.N this morning it was reported that when a diplomat from Germany came into the meeting room, he accidentally slammed the door rather loudly. Upon hearing the bang, the French diplomats threw down their briefcases, put their hands in the air and ran out the back door.

Hey France - YOU'RE NEXT. You little fucking cockroach, Your men are cowards and your women are all whores. And you little German cock sucking maggot, stand up like a man and stop hiding behind the French. What do you call somebody that hides behind a coward? A fucking German? You shouled be bitch slapped.

Europe - the UK is the only civlized and decent place in "OLD RUROPE". Time holds the key to all truths and time is unlocking a real fucking hatred of France. I spit on the graves of your two bit whore mothers

Yate!

I don't know who just discovered that French language was not even second to English in number of speakers, but here are a few figures (in millions) :

1. Mandarin (850)
2. English (450)
3. Hindi (330)
4. Spanish (260)
5. Portuguese (175)
6. Bengali (160)
7. Russian (150)
8. Arabic (140)
9. Japanese (125)
10. French (120)
11. German (110)

Now the reasons for French to be the diplomatic language is only historic. Centuries ago, French was the officious language of nobles all over Europe, and French made the first theories and diplomacy schools... That's just traditional, folks...

Why don't you bomb France ?

1) You're compassionate, with Christian Charity...
2) France is not a foe and is an ally (personally I would pick this one).
3) You cannot, because France would nuke NY, LA and Washington as a retaliation.
4) This topic about France is just ridiculous, so why bomb France ?
5) Suggestions ?

Hey guys, think that UK and US are champions of democracy ?
How can you explain that Britain wants to strike Saddam when 80% of the population opposes it ? Hopefully democracy will triumph and Blair will be sent back home by the Parliament...

"Why don't you bomb France ?

1) You're compassionate, with Christian Charity..."

Ask Nagasaki and Hiroshima about what they learned about "compassion" and "Christian charity."

There are two sides of God: Love and wrath. Get on his bad side, and the gates of hell won't prevail against him.

"2) France is not a foe and is an ally (personally I would pick this one)."

LOL! Allies don't do what France just tried to do the U.S.

"3) You cannot, because France would nuke NY, LA and Washington as a retaliation."

France would never be able to nuke NY, LA and/or Washington. For one thing, they haven't got the guts. For another thing, they wouldn't get the chance, as they would be destroyed before they attempted to do so.

"4) This topic about France is just ridiculous, so why bomb France ?"

It's not "ridiculous," and they are becoming our enemies, which is as good a reason as any to bomb France.

"5) Suggestions ?"

Yea, shut the fuck up, France lover.

"Hey guys, think that UK and US are champions of democracy ?
How can you explain that Britain wants to strike Saddam when 80% of the population opposes it ?"

Says who, the Daily Mirror? the New York Times? LMAO!

The leftists have always lied about poles.

"Hopefully democracy will triumph and Blair will be sent back home by the Parliament..."

Democracy will indeed triumph, and Saddam Hussein will be brought to justice, and Iraq will be freed from the ruthless, Stalinist dictator.

Today it was reported that a severe earthquakes have occurred in 10 different locations in France. The severity was measured in excess of 10 on the Richter Scale.

The cause: The 56,681 dead American soldiers buried in French soil rolling over in their graves.

According to the American Battle Monuments Commission, there are 26,255 Yankee dead from World War I buried in 4 cemeteries in France. There are 30,426 American dead from World War II buried in 6 cemeteries in France.

These 56,681 brave American heroes died in their youth to liberate a country which is guilty of shameful unspeakable behavior in the 21st century. May the United States of America never forget their sacrifice as we find ways to forcefully deal with the Godforsaken, unappreciative, forgetful country of France.

Deutschland & Frankreich, Belgien & Niederlanden.
Wir sind die Besten.
Scheiss auf die dreckigen Amis.

Europa- Der Sieg wird unser sein!

No one's listening, Sturm, you loser.

Europa- der arschlecker
Deutschland- der arschficker
Vaterland- der Bierficker
Deutschland-der hosenscheisser, der weisser bart, der gewinnspiel

Nico, as france is fast becoming a muslim country, I would say the Christian thing to do is to bomb it. As for france nuking the US, you are a greater fool than I thought, and that is saying something. War with france would not last out the day, and believe me when I say that they would NEVER have the chance to respond. Please. Very soon all will be revealed, and we will be starving the french out. You see, taking over iraq is great, because we will finance the action with what was once their oil, as well as that of the heavily invested french. Shortly after, the french economy will crash. Very easy, very neat.One can actually surmize that the french are going to play a huge part in financing our war!!! Yes, sturm, the vaterland too. We have already begun plans to remove our Millitary Bases from your precious vaterland, while your pathetic government protests like little girls.

Yo, Nico...

Why don't you bomb France ?

1) You're compassionate, with Christian Charity...
Unquestionably. More on the order of Christ in the temple with the bullwhip than the turn your cheek portion, but we're there if that is what you want.

2) France is not a foe and is an ally (personally I would pick this one).
Exactly how? Because they are in the UN? Because they have been the thorn in the side of the rest of NATO? Because some neofascist or cryptocommie regularly gets a sizable portion of the vote? Because to be elected Jack had to run an anti-American platform? Allies change. The Soviet Union was an ally during WWII, it didn't last.

3) You cannot, because France would nuke NY, LA and Washington as a retaliation.
How would they manage this? Hard to press the button with your hands in the air.

4) This topic about France is just ridiculous, so why bomb France ?
It is ridiculous? ISTR many Americans feeling the same way about any involvement in WWI and WWII.

5) Suggestions ?
Certainly, read a little history, and get the idea that nothing is static.

Nuclear Waste

BTW folks, I have registered www.nukethefrench.us. I have nothing up there yet, but may steal liberally from all of you for original content.

Nuclear Waste

21 houra and the bombs start falling. Boom! The more we exchange e-mails with the cowards and Germans (a German hides behind a coward as explained in an earlier post)the more animosity we'll create towards each other and the more entrenched our positions become. So Germans and cowards, keep reading and posting so we may perpetuate this hatred to the point of no return!

Consider yourselves bitch slapped right now! SLAP

80 % in one poll, 60 % per cent in another bla bla bla. All very subjective - depending upon the politics of the paper or the owner of the paper. Whether pro or anti war- each group will claim moral, ethical and legal legitimacy. However, the facts are clear.
1) Russia france and germany all signed 1441- and they knew the consequences of that decision.
2) They have now renaged upon that decision
3)Why?
economic reasons and domestic political reasons.
France is shit scared of its domestic algerian/muslim population. Russia too is shit scared of further repurcussions from its chechyan dissidents.
Also, when I mentioned the ridiculous "traditional" use of french as the language of diplomacy - I was suggesting that English was either the first- second language of people across the world- particularly in commerce. French is most definitely not.
But all I can say is yes anti-french anti-american anti-british sentiment is ridiculous. My argument is strictly political but when allies undermine each other they should expect to be fucking punched - especially france.
However, don't think I am pro-yank. If Al Gore was in power (like he should be) this situation would not have arose -YET! Because Sept 11th would still happen. Hussein would still be a psycho-fascist. The increase of terrorist activity by islamic extremists in europe would have still increased.
So this conflict is inevitable. It was forced upon us.

What also annoys me is the european Left. Since when have socialist aspoused liberal wishy-washy bollocks. MY GOD! Guevara would turn in his grave if he heard the apologetic shit coming out of some British socialists and european socialists. French socialists are rallying behind Chirac!!! For fucks sake. We should attack Iraq because it is a fascist regime. Pure and simple. Have we all forgotten the Spanish civil war- when the left-wing had some fucking balls.

I have noticed alot of anti-leftwing rhetoric on here by alot of americans. Why? I think it stems from america's quasi-democracy. for example, you may not enter america's two party state if one is a communist or a trade unionist. Anti-democratic?
Yet i could be the most rightwing red necked fascist, firing my six shooter pistol and wearing a cowboy hat and walk right in to america.
So i think america also has questions to address with regards to itself. But even so- america is infinitely better than Iraq, Russia and China. yet France sides with the latter. And although i don't agree with the political culture of america-at least the democratic majority of america defined its self.
Therefore - it is apparent that France values the opinions of undemocratic and autocratic states over the opinion of limited, but still democratic, states such as the US and the UK.
That's why France is wrong.

NuclearWaste,
what do you define a crypto-communist as? i'd suggest it was a piss-poor version of communism only aspoused in France- with no real conviction to take on the evils of privatised capital ownership.

You maybe generalise all communists under the Mcarthyist prototype, but that's probably because of the fact that the majority of yanks that attack leftwing politics and economics - havn't actually read any leftwing politics or economics. Read that area of history.

Also, Whoever suggested Hussein was a Stalinist is quite wrong. I hardly think a "stalinist's" CV would state that Hitler's Nazi movement was right and just-as Sadam Hussein's CV does.

Hey Sturm-is that why you won't attack Iraq.
Eat Shit Mesheshmit!

Here's something traditional Nico - 1940, France Maginot line - French generals refuse to order troops to fire upon oncoming Teutonic hoards in fear of Germans firing upon them. HA Ha HA! Stupid french. They might have guessed that they should have fired by the fact they declared war on Germany.
And again France sticks to its "better not fire, they might fire on us" strategy, irrespective of the huge number of terrorists threatening French security. That's just tradition folks...(in a Nico-esc patronising denoument).

The situation in Iraq at this moment reminds me alot of the 1920 situation in Ireland, when Ireland's fledging republic began. De Valera, like France, sent his strongest ally to bargain for peace and an Irish Republic. This ally being the inspirational, pragmatic and brilliant general Michael Collins. Subsequently, Collins brought back a deal which was not exactly what was hoped for, but none-the-less a victory.
He did this by having an ideal in mind - an end goal-which he would achieve by any means.
De Valera used it to undermine him, and assasinate him in order to gain political capital for himself.

Like Collins, the US is being shafted by, like De Valera, France.
France couldn't give a shit about Iraq or its "allies", as De Valera didn't give a shit about Ireland or Collins.

What France likes to do is use the UN to order other countries-according to its will. May i emphasis the fact that France likes to exercise its will - but without any necessary means to put its will into practice. That is, it is a pontificating hypocrite, which relies upon the US and the UK to actually do something.
If France is such a defender of the UN's sovereignty why didn't it stop testing nuclear bombs in the pacific-when encroaching upon the safety of other pacific islands?
Why are french mercenaries currently in the Congo-against UN rulings?
Why are french troops in the Ivory Coast-acting as a colonialist power and protecting its own national interests-against UN rulings?
Why is Chirac the only euro leader to meet with Mugabe and Hussein?
When suspected algerian terrorists, which have been arrested in the UK recently, why didn't the french security services share information with UK secret services when these suspects all moved to the UK?
I do not know - but what it points to is certainly not the "moral hero" picture France portrays itself as.

"Also, Whoever suggested Hussein was a Stalinist is quite wrong. I hardly think a "stalinist's" CV would state that Hitler's Nazi movement was right and just-as Sadam Hussein's CV does."

Hussein is indeed a Stalinist; perhaps it would do you good to learn about the man. And the reason he has said that the Nazi's were right is because of their persecution of the Jews.

For the Ivory Coast, it is very easy : there are military assistance agreements between this state (and many others) and France. So they don't need anythying but the treaty conditions (between France and Ivory Coast) to be fulfilled to be LEGALLY there...

I don't know where I saw that decades ago, the French communist party was accepted in the political scene. It is still the case, and, personnally, I cannot see any reason why they shouldn't !

To the brave soul who neglected to leave a moniker:

If you are unable to decipher simple written English, may I suggest you drop your Marx and pick up a dictionary? As to my reading of history, I feel comfortably familiar with the breadth of my exposure to have any sort of a discussion you would prefer.

I, at least, am able to look past the title of "Nazi" to the underlying political and economic system, and to draw parralells, unfettered by preconceptions.

NW

fuck france

FUCK FRANCE YOU SUCK THE SHIT OUT OF A FAT BITCHES ASS YOU TO IRAQ

NUKE THEM ASSHOLES

LOVE BILL & CHRIS AT HATTS

AND FOREST GUMP fuck france eat my ass

AND FOREST GUMP fuck france eat my ass

AND FOREST GUMP fuck france eat my ass

"To the brave soul who neglected to leave a moniker:

If you are unable to decipher simple written English, may I suggest you drop your Marx and pick up a dictionary? As to my reading of history, I feel comfortably familiar with the breadth of my exposure to have any sort of a discussion you would prefer.

I, at least, am able to look past the title of "Nazi" to the underlying political and economic system, and to draw parralells, unfettered by preconceptions.

NW

Posted by: NuclearWaste on March 19, 2003 11:57 PM"

Just call the idiot a Noam Chomskyite, NW.

The French should be expelled from the US, an embargo needs to be placed upon all imports and exports to and from France, lastly, and all French assents must be frozen. The French need to remove their cocks from their throats long enough to realize that they can’t only please themselves! Fuck the French, bomb Paris. Italian products are far better then anything EVER produced in France!

For your information (just ran a google search...) :

http://csf.colorado.edu/forums/peace/feb98/0136.html (it's French but dates back from 98).

http://mediafilter.org/shadow/S43/S43anthrax.html

And, last but not least :

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/23/210336.shtml

How can I help start the bombing? No one in the history of the world has ever surrendered faster than the French (5 minutes) in WWII and it took the whole rest of that day for the country to turn traitors (there were only 10 guys and an old woman in the French underground) and start kissing up to their Uncle Adolph. It has only come to my attention recently that all French are gay (that explains the wine and cheese) three more reasons to bomb the snot out of them. How about potpourri isn't that their fault too, just one more reason, there are too many to count, another thing, French poodles...I'm writing my Senator!!!!
At least Winston Churchill and the Royal Navy had the good sense to sink the French Fleet (another 5 minutes)

A mind control sattelite caused Tom to write:
I have noticed alot of anti-leftwing rhetoric on here by alot of americans. Why?

To fully understand that, you would have to understand the tree-hugging, anti-intellectual stance of the American left.

I think it stems from america's quasi-democracy. for example, you may not enter america's two party state if one is a communist or a trade unionist. Anti-democratic?

You are quite mistaken about the inability of trade unionists and communists to enter the political arena here.

Yet i could be the most rightwing red necked fascist, firing my six shooter pistol and wearing a cowboy hat and walk right in to america.

I always find it odd when someone mentions the right and fascism. It makes me wonder if they have any real concept of what the fascists stood for, beyond the Hollywood/ Flower Children epitaph that is. Examined closely the radical left's big government ideals, coupled with their almost childlike trust in the idea that "government" can be involved in every facet of public and private decision making seems to more closely resemble fascism to me. Couple that with the recent idealism which sets the government into the roll of parental protector while giving up all rights and responsibility and you have the perfect subjects for a totalitarian fascist regime. With that said, may I suggest that you roll in with an Alpaca sweater and some Birkenstocks waving a "Ban ALL Firearms" sign instead?

So i think america also has questions to address with regards to itself.

I think you are right, but I think that I may have answered some of them for you.

NW

To NW,

Yes of course the moderate left believes in a pro-active state, but not the Orwellian scenario you speak of.
I am going to assume you are american, therefore predisposed to the "Lockean" notion of a state as a monolithic state.
Incidently, the historical reasons for america's constitution, as provided by Charles beard, are that it was drawn up by land owning, tax dodging british expats. NO taxation no representation bollocks. They paid a 25th of the average mainland british citizen and they were represented in westminster - they just got greedy.
And this ideaology of far-right capitalism bordering on a form of fascism still exists. In that it is a fascism, not of race or creed, but wealth and social status.
The whole point of state apparatus is that I, a citizen of a state, am part of the state, I use it a provide for it etc.
it is not a power alien to me, nor is it opposed to me - dialectically or otherwise.
As far as the american left-they are apologists really.
"Child like idea of government"- well...
not really - what about accountability - and redress. What would Hayek put in place instead eh? Nothing, and then we'd all be fucked.
Without strong central control and public participation comes apathy-which opportunists such as Reagan and Thatcher jump on. They, like G W Bush talk the laissez faire usual garble - but in fact they are more authoritarian than any socialist.
Such slogans as "there is no such thing as society"encourages social apathy in order to maintain absolute explicit control-via the cover of liberal-right arguments.

Back to France-

What again has amused me is France's alternative to the USA's and UK's position. They want to
a) stop boycotts on Iraq
b) pull troops away from Iraq
in order to c) constrain Iraq. HOW THE FUCK WILL THAT HAPPEN? How will that teach saddam hussein anything? Jack "bottle tan gameshow host" Chirac is either fucking stupid, or, simply taking the piss.

Phrase for the day - "French appeasement". That's why it's so easy to get laid in France

Nieder mit dem Amipack. Ich hasse euch alle!
Wir wollen keine--Amischweine!
Tod den USA! Ratten!
Ich hoffe eure iomperialistischen Jünger im Irak verrecken kläglich in der Wüste!

EUROPA- Am Ende steht NUR der Sieg!

Well........now that the shooting has started the US may be closer to having the spare time to sling a few spare bombs Frances way, or better yet, "accidentally" flatten the French Embassy in Baghdad with a "malfunctioning" smart bomb. Wouldn't that be cool!

I notice while old Jack Shirac is bad mouthing the US over standing up to Sodom Hoosayn, He's got the French Foreign Legion out shooting up the "Bongo Congo" along with the "Ivory Coast" with no other authority but his own. I also wonder what the state of these two cesspools (former colonies) says about the parent country.

Oh ya, and what about the French Foreign Legion, this fabled fighting force is made up entirely of foreign nationals. This is so they can waste the lives of others while the cowardly French stay fuckin home. This is a fact. It is a safe bet there are more Americans in the Legion than French in all the militaries anywhere. This is just another example of generations of cowardice. The US may not be perfect and no doubt, never will be, but is still the best place on earth to live and are not a nation of fuckin chicken shit, lying, yellow bellied sissies.

To all those who say the US is doing this just because they want to rule the world, where the fuck have you been the last sixty years?? The US does rule the fucking world, and will continue to do so. So suck my ass.

PS, thanx to whoever liked my words from further up the log well enough to plagiarize them. (5-minute surrender) I laughed just as hard reading them again as when I wrote them.

Fuck the Weasel Heads

U little Monkey dont rule ze world.

Es lebe Europa!

I'm French and I just want to say good luck to your guys in Iraq. Some of them are young (19 y.o). And I hope that everybody will be back home. Kill Saddam and help the Iraqi people.

Tom,
perhaps you would be willing to take this conversation to email, as I feel that a serious discussion would hinder this forum?

NW

this war sucks... to damned boring. Where's my ray gun?

No rayguns. This is Bush.

NW

There is a group of walking humidors camping on the steps of city hall in Duluth MN. Apparently they are against the killing of Americans and Iraqis under President Bush. However, they appear to support the killing done under Clinton. This causes me to wonder. Does that make it better for our military to sustain these attacks without firing back? Are all the women killed because of showing an ankle or wanting to be free and work acceptable to them? Of course, because that is what Clinton allowed. Gentlemen. Instead of allowing these logic-impaired creatures on the street, I suggest you take a page from the Clinton book and lay in a supply of good whiskey and cigars, and keep them home to act in the only manner they are truly capable of. Humidors. No thinking required.

NW

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There are some stupid morons who are against this war with Iraq, and I would to bring to their attention the fact that appeasement doesn't work. DOes anybody remember Hitler? He wanted Sudatenland, and was given it with out a fight. People like Chamberlin didn't stand up, and allowed Hitler to gain power and commit genocide. America tried to remain neutral in that affair, and look at what happened. If America doesn't step in now, they are allowing history to repeat its self, and the most important to do in life is learn from one's mistakes. It's important to fight Iraq before we let anything worse go on. Dearborn Detroit has one of the Nation's highest Iraqi populations, and on Monday night they were dancing in the streets, because they knew it was the end of Suddam Hussein's evil reign.

I meant to say I would like to bring to their attention, but I accidently left out the like. oops

Churchill:

I think Chamberlain intentionally sought for peace as to re-arm the underarmed british forces a the time, because if we did go to war with Germany in 1938 we would have been dead and buried in weeks. Chamberlain gets a hard rap. He did what was necessary at the time. Yes genocide happened - but it would have continued for longer unless Britain rearmed first, and fought second.

By the way this has no parallel with Iraq - we, the west, should be there - and I'm from the left of the political spectrum.
The left needs to get its balls back. What about Lenin, Guevara, Trotsky - for fucks sake - they'd have had a go at saddam! So all you wooly left, or should i say liberals in disguise, have some fucking conviction and fight for freedom!

The french right - Gaullists- along with the american right blocked chemical/biological disarmermant of Iraq in 1986. Chirac was part of that french Gaullist movement at the time. He has recently made contracts with sadam in January.
So the hypocrisy of america - which is there- is also there with france. Or is it?
They don't want to attack sadam. why? Coz they fucking like him. they want him there - he's an easy market. They support him, although implicitly. Why? because france sees itself as the natural "other" to the USA - it wants to take on the USSR'S mantle. Why? Because France lacks direction and purpose. The french right needs a motive - other than being the alternative to Le Pen. this is also the case in the USA. The Right in america needs Iraq, it needs N. Korea, it needs Iran. Why? to legitimate its new authoritarian legislation. But, Bush doesn't want to repeat his father's reign. that is he doesn't want to be seen as only a war time president- hence G W's recent talk on domestic policy inter-dispursed with the Iraq situation.
Therefore, what should the west do? Vote for the left. But not the liberal left, THE LEFT- the left with a fucking dick!

NW I wouldn't mind having an email chat. However, as you might have gathered I'm quite left-wing - but if you don't mind a difference of opinion that's ok with me. I trust you are more centre-right?

1500 Iraqi troops have already surrendered. they must have been reading the "art of war" by general De Gaulle

No Tom, I think they were French.

..how would you do when facing someone barehanded? Eye to eye?
....wuhahahahahahahahahahaahhfraid!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God bless America were number 1 ? America number 1 in the following subjects:
- millionaires,
- billionaires,
- military spending,
- firearm deaths,
- energy consuption 3*as much as a european,carbon dioxide emissions (more than France,Germany,Italy,Canada and the UK put together),
- oil + gas consumption,
- recorded rapes,
- likelihood of children under 15 years of age to die from gunfire and amongst other things you (America)are the only legally constituted goverment in the UN not to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the child also you are number one when it comes to human rights treaties not signed..........
What more can I say America you are number one.

So instead of moaning at other countries try moaning at your own country where you haven`t even got a properly elected goverment your elections were a farce the Bush family fixed the lot,and also a few of the answers on this page are complaining at the French well I`m Scottish and I like the french,you Americans must remember the 2nd WW was not just won by the USA the russians on the eastern front killed more German soldiers than anyone and were 1st to reach Berlin but you won`t see any of that on your hollywood movies eh? When the Nazis fell you (America)took there scientists and there technology for nuclear weapons (to which they were the leaders)and together (that is with the nazis)built and used the first nuclear bomb on human beings.

I getting bored now but remember America is number 1. have a nice dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy .

SIGNED: A concerned Scotsman

yes, America is #1 in many things that may sound odeus to an outsider ( emissions, oil and gas usage), however, these are issues common to a civilized nation. do you have cars yet in scotland? also, critisizing our elections is laughable, as we have an ELECTORAL COLLEGE voting system that the less western mind seems to have a difficult time grasping, but either way, does scotland even have a single government, or are there still feudal lordships in existence? that is the beauty of being a nonentity as a nation... you maintain relative anonimity, while countries like the US who actually do something become the lightning rods for critisism from those who don't, like france and scotland.

- "Grenades exploded at a 101st Airborne command center in Kuwait early Sunday, killing one and wounding 13 servicemen. A U.S. SOLDIER WAS DETAINED AS A SUSPECT IN THE ATTACK, the Army said.
- " U.S. MISSILE HAVE DOWNED RAF PLANE"
- "Six British troops and a U.S. Navy officer died Saturday when two British Royal Navy helicopters collided over the Persian Gulf"
- "Another helicopter crash Friday claimed the lives of eight British and four U.S. Marines."

There is much more Americans and English killed by Americans than killed by Iraqi soldiers.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON ???????!!!!!!

A few figures about WW2 (although I do not see any link with 1-France 2-Saddam/Hitler) :

For the French, it is in Quid 1998, page 675 (for crosscheck).

Now just make the relation between the number of killed people and the population, and you will find who paid the highest tribute...

Killed (Allied):

China : 2200000
France : 210671
Poland : 320000
UK : 244723
USA : 291557
USSR : 7500000 (waow)
Yugoslavia : 410000

Killed (Axis) :

France : 14500
Germany : 3850000
Hungary : 140000
Italy : 77494
Japan : 1219000
Rumania : 300000

OK, this was just for the "surrender monkey" and other spiritual insults.

Now can anybody explain why Saddam '03 looks like Hitler '38 ? For me it is the same as the relation between Iraq and Al Qaeda, it still remains very unclear...

And :

- "Downed Apache helicopter 50 miles south of Baghdad"
- "Pockets of resistance remain at Umm Qasr" (for 5 days)
- "Arab TV Shows Dead, Captured U.S. Troops"

And we said that it will be "a short, clean and easy war" ???
And allies avoid pockets of resistance and towns ? What will happen in Bagdad ?

relax, it is a clean, short, easy war. did you think there would be NO casualties? this is war. things happen in everyday life that cause more fatality than we have seen over there.

nico, these areas are not unclear to the rest of us. are you still defending france? well, let me spoil a surprise for you. although france is already screaming about wanting to be a part of the reconstruction of iraq ( which will be very lucrative), lets see if you can guess what the result of that lobby is going to be. yep, you got it. france is going to be locked out of that one because of the traditional valor they have shown in this conflict. and gee, once the lucrative deal you people had with saddam is void, where will your economy go? get ready for starvation, frogs!!!!

Tag mal wieder.
It looks not very gut for u , amerikans. Ze Irakis make u big problems. And u are so stupid zat u fire on your own planes. Your soldiers arent able to control your own technologie.
Zat should be ze best army in ze world?
Hehehe.
Ze Republikanische Garden are waiting for u in Bagdad...

Es lebe Europa! Vive l`europe!

Nico, I know its hard to draw a direct comparison to Hitler. I mean, Saddam has only invaded two countries and kill 1 million muslims. Comapred to that, Hitler was a god-damn progressive.

As an american i can not fucking believe what I`m reading. When the fuck did we turn into a nation of ignorant guntotting racist. probably a long time ago. france has produced some of the greatest cultural advancements in world history: art literature academics. what the fuck have we ever made. fucking mcDonalds and the atom bomb. besides that fuck all. France is standing up for the rights of nations not to be attacked and taken over, because of some value they hold to the american economy. how easily we`ve forgot our nations intervention in centraland south america where they`ve repeatidly destroyed democratic regimes ( chile panama nicaragua ) because of our nations intrest. Isn`t it in our intrest to promote peace freedom democracy and a world order? Not if oils involved obviously. Fuck you assholes i`m disgraced to call you countrymen.

What will happen when the US troops will be in Bagdad ? Probably an urban guerrilla : the worst scenario. Soldiers hidden everywhere, in houses or in the middle of the crowed or dressed like civilians. And what about the kamikazes, like in Israel ?
All your modern weapons (helicopters, satellites...) which give you the superiority, will be totally useless. Troops will have to "clean" street by street, house by house. It can be easy in a small village. But there are 5 millions of people in Bagdad... Many of them doesn't like Saddam, but they love their country, they are patriotic, as the Americans are. So, they probably don't want to be invaded and ruled by Americans. You throw bomb on their country in 1991 and for 1 week. You killed and injured a lot of them. People in Bagdad and soldiers perfectly know their city. It's a big advantage. So don't expect to be welcomed with flowers in Bagdad...

And how many remakes of "Black Hawk Down" do you want to do in Bagdad ? 20 ? 30 ? 100 ?

The US and the UK can draw strength from the fact that in Basra there is open rebellion against the Saddam regime. Fuck france, Fuck Russia, Fuck China Fuck Germany. You talk of peace democracy etc- however, you are not prepared to fight for it. You are moral cowards. You obviously do not believe in democracy -you believe in large MINORITY - ill-informed - public opinion. The self proclaimed MOB mentality of the conspiracy theorist.
Also, if this war is about oil, why has Bush invested $2 billion in hydrogen fuel develolment? mmmmmmmm..........COZ HE DOESN@T WANT TO BE RELIANT UPON OIL. This is not an apologetic defence of Bush - these are the facts. Whay pay cash to Iraq, Saudi and all other unstable terrorist funding countries when he can fund a self-reliant fuel? It doesn't make sense to say its about oil because oil price is subject to the stock exchange anyway. The US would still have to buy it for fucks sake - at the rate stpulated by an internationally regulated market.
This war is about Bush finishing his fathers work.
France wanting to maintain its economic interests.
Russia getting its $8 billion cash lent to Saddam - back!
And Britain maintaining its international position as the US-EU go between.
Effectively we all dance to america's tune. That's the way it is. It will change - inevitably-so get over it.

Tom,

You do not answer my question : what will happen in Bagdad ?

And Tom,

You say the USA and Great-Britain make war because they want democracy in Iraq. Good idea. But Sadam has got the power for 30 years now. WHY 30 YEARS LATER ??

And :

- "Downed Apache helicopter 50 miles south of "Baghdad"
- "Pockets of resistance remain at Umm Qasr" (for 5 days)
- "Arab TV Shows Dead, Captured U.S. Troops"

And we said that it will be "a short, clean and easy war" ???
And allies avoid pockets of resistance and towns ? What will happen in Bagdad ?"

Hey, dumb fuck, this is a fucking WAR with a fucking country that had plenty of time to fortify themselves and dig in while we sat around and waited for fucking FRANCE to feel better with weapons inspectors, it is not a Sunday picnic. This is not the clearing out of little Kuwait, but a full scale military invasion of an entire NATION of 25 million people that is loaded with weapons and military. This is also not the movies, where everything is over in an hour. So I would suggest that you get out from in front of your T.V. and go back to work, because this will be a very nasty fight, as gee wiz, a lot of Iraqi's just don't feel like allowing outsiders to come into their country and take it, and they are actually shooting back.

The military was hoping for a best-case scenario of mass surrenders, but so far it hasn't happened as planned, shock and awe apparently didn't shock and awe all that much, so now its time for plan two: daisy cutters and carpet bombing and all hell breaking loose on Iraqi troops. A couple of more divisions are on their way while our green troops are learning how to fight these scum bags, and when everything is ready the Iraqi's will turn to fine particles if they don't surrender.

This aint no Afghanistan, its a real country with a real army; give it some time and let the coalition do its job.

"Fuck you assholes i`m disgraced to call you countrymen."

Fuck yourself, french lover. If you love the french so much then crawl in bed with one of their many faggots and be his bitch, bitch.

You are associating a quantative amount with a qualitative statement -why 30 years later-who cares. Sadam is a cunt, a fact everyone on this page will agree upon. You'll probably argue he's been there 30 years because of previous governemnts. Probably. The US Republicans and democrats have done nothing - niether has the UK right. But even more interesting is the complete lack of action from any other country previously. British and US govts have funded sadam - but not this current British govt. It has been consitent in its approach to sadam, even when in opposition - and this British govt has sold nothing to saddam - it was Thatcher - Major etc.
But why attack now? the events post-sept 11th have to some degree led to our current situation. Sometimes historical events lead to circumstances the individual can't control. And when countries, like Iraq applaud and fund suicide bombers in Israel - inevitably the US is going to attack them at some point as Israel is an ally.
What will happen in Bagdad? War-people will die.WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT. But if you can't handle war, and fighting - then Sturm would still be goosestepping, Nico would be eating stroodle and people like you "peace" wouldn't be allowed to have an opinion.
What do you think your freedom relies upon? good intentions. Sorry but cold hard real politik defines international policy in every country. No moral judgements - just value judgements. And one of those value judgements is that Sadam is a cunt. Ergo-war.

Now I agree that the peace movement should be allowed to demonstrate. However, they who demonstrate should realise that Sadam is gaining all the pathos and koudos from the demos. Yet it is our western society that allows them - In Basra, demonstrators are shot- as we saw yesterday. So who are the demonstrators demonstrating for?
they say they intend to demo for the Iraqi people? What Iraqi people, the first-class citizens of the Sunni muslim community? or the second class citizens of Kurdistan, the southern Shia's and the other ethnic communities that are persecuted?
No, the demonstrators just demo against war. They have a problem with war. So do I- but this war has a point. But the demonstrators have NO FORESIGHT. They think in present terms - categorising all war = bad. Even if THIS (Not the concept war, particular as opposed to a universal) war would give iraqi's long term peace, equality etc. So how would the demos deal with Sadam.
Containment, how? the demonstrators want to lift embargos.
So what the demonstrators want to do to teach sadam a lesson- peacefully- and by not killing anyone - is to DO NOTHING! What a flash of genius.
Lets use a utilitarian argument. How long would sadam live for before he died? say 5 years. How many people would be tortured or killed at his hands during this period of time? Compare that to possible deaths in this war - i'd think sadam's tally would far exceed any war casualities.
also, if sadam did die, what is to say that the regime would die with him- it wouldn't, it would still exist but with a different general.
ONE OF THE PEACE MOVEMENT HERE GIVE ME A TENABLE ALTERNATIVE TO WAR. That is of course to assume the peace movement want rid of sadam. I really think they don't want to deal with sadam. They shurk from responsibility like france.
Iraq-terrorism =cash to families of suicide bombers.
Iraq-nuclear weapons=supplied equipment from the west, UK France US etc
Therefore, sadam IS a THREAT. Go demo about something else.

To the idiot writing about scotland. "The british keep the scottish hanging around..." Britain is england, scotland, N. Ireland and Wales. Therefore, the "British" you refer to are actually the english.
Incidentally, British troops are the best trained in NATO. America rely upon pure numbers and equipment.
Scots have actually fought and died in Iraq already - so fuck off, coz if you ever are in Glasgow you'd probably shit your middleclass WASP Y-Fronts you fucking cunt!

HOW DARE YOU INSULT SCOTLAND!
MY FIRST POINT! the SAS is the BEST special forces in the WORLD, yes even better than that of the Americans(they had to rescue a yank) special forces guy in afghanistan.
Now considering that scotland makes up only 10% of the British population, it is an achievement that 70% of the SAS are scots.
Secondly Scottish troops are fighting in Iraq, not only in the SAS, they are in the form of the blackwatch, and the royal scots dragoon guards, from which some soldiers have died fighting for their country.
I would also like to point out the US marines couldnt handle the brief street fighting in Um qasr, and had to call in the ROYAL (british) marines to do a proper job of it. as much as i hate the french and like the americans, ur just a dick that doesnt realise our armed forces are TOUGHER than yours.
Your armed forces rely on all this girly high tech crap, whereas if u gave a Royal marine a rifle with a couple of rounds and a bayonet, he could take on the world.

I would also like to make anotehr point, its all very well these protesters being against the war (they usually consist of fantasiists and anit americans), but not one of them has coem up with a viable solution of removing Saddam hussein and his regiem from power.

Another thing about Scotland, you say we done nothing worth while, you might have a point, because we only invented the little things like TELEVISION, TELEPHONES, PENICILIN etc trust me i could go on.

US troops are making progress. At the begining of the war, they used to kill British soldiers. Now they kill Iraqi soldiers. Good job !!!

"To the idiot writing about scotland. "The british keep the scottish hanging around..." Britain is england, scotland, N. Ireland and Wales. Therefore, the "British" you refer to are actually the english."

Scotland is indeed a part of Britain, but try calling a Scot "British" and see if you can keep him from choking on his mutton.

"Incidentally, British troops are the best trained in NATO."

ROTFFLMFAO! At what? staying in the rear where it's safer, and making coffee for the Yanks? Any Brits up there near Baghdad?

"America rely upon pure numbers and equipment."

Hehe, the things inferiors will come up with to make themselves feel better about their inadequecies.

"Scots have actually fought and died in Iraq already"

Yea, but have they done so voluntarily? at the point of a bayonet for imperial England doesn't count.

"- so fuck off, coz if you ever are in Glasgow you'd probably shit your middleclass WASP Y-Fronts you fucking cunt!"

Why in the hell would anyone ever want to go to Glasgow? Nothing but sheep-fucking, skirt-wearing, British-ass-kissing pussies there, and their ugly women.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE FRONT LINE AT BAGDHAD! THERES NO FIGHTING UP THERE! all the action is in the south, and we saved u arses at UM QASR coz ur a bunch of pussies!

FACT! the US marines were too busy fucking each other up the arse, that the Royal marines had to go in and KICK SOME ARSE!,
AND WHATS THAT CRAP ABOUT AT THE POINT OF A BAYONET FOR IMPERIAL ENGLAND?!?!?! THATS BOLLOCKS!

ANOTHER THING! im scottish, and am proud to be called BRITISH we Ruled over u bunch of peasants, you never ruled britain!

The fact there is only american POWS, and no British POWS proves ur all queers coz WE HAVENT SURRENDERED!

This would be the same Rear that we engaged major iraqi armour in tank battles

plus u cant argue with the fact that the SAS kick ARSE

Sign me up. We saved their butts, They started the Viet Nam war. Nuke em.

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE FRONT LINE AT BAGDHAD! THERES NO FIGHTING UP THERE! all the action is in the south, and we saved u arses at UM QASR coz ur a bunch of pussies!"

Then go up there and have a picnic, you dumb son of a bitch. All that's happening in the south is that a bunch of toothless old women have the royal marines pinned down and pissing their panties.

"FACT! the US marines were too busy fucking each other up the arse, that the Royal marines had to go in and KICK SOME ARSE!,"

No, they were fucking british marines up THEIR arses, because that's the way the royal pussies like it.

"AND WHATS THAT CRAP ABOUT AT THE POINT OF A BAYONET FOR IMPERIAL ENGLAND?!?!?! THATS BOLLOCKS!"

Uh huh. Why aren't you free from England, scots, like AMERICA is? because your, ahem, 'men' couldn't get the job done. William Wallace and that 'DeBruce' queer were both pussies.

"ANOTHER THING! im scottish, and am proud to be called BRITISH we Ruled over u bunch of peasants, you never ruled britain!"

The only thing you scots rule over are the drunks laying in the gutters in 'Gasglow' and the sheep laying in your beds.

"The fact there is only american POWS, and no British POWS proves ur all queers coz WE HAVENT SURRENDERED!"

No, it means that you british pussies haven't been in the thick of battle. America secured the south and now your brits are their trying to mop up the old women and children. Your 'forces' are hanging out in the port cities so you can get on board of ships fast and evacuate, like you pussies did at Dunkirk.

There really is no point in continuing this argument. Every time I make a valid point, you cant think of a truthful or whitty response, and so respond with national stereotypes, which further proves your idiocy.
The fact that there actually hasnt been any fighting in bagdhad, and when there is fighting in the north its against a bunch of crappy forces with only ak's and RPGs, WERE FIGHTING TANKS FOR FUCK SAKE!, and kicking arse. You still havent answered my point that the Us marines couldnt handle street fighting in Um Qasr, and had to call in the royal marines to do a proper job.
The inadequacies of the American education system are being furtehr provd ebery time you speak. Scotland actually claimed independance in 1453 udner Robert the Bruce. We chose to ally with the english so we could build the biggest empire the world has ever seen, which is more than America will ever achieve.

Im still waiting for this "big Fight" in bagdhad that hasnt materialised yet.
P.S I'd rather be a Drunk Scot than a fat Stupid American.

I was watching Deliverance yesterday, so I'd Warn you to stay clear of national stereotypes, because i could level you.

The only reason that there is a big battle in the North is because the Americans are practicing a bit more of there world renowned Friendly Fire A.K.A blue on blue contact

I must stress, that in general i Like Americans, and hate the french, and i am also glad the Americans have the sense to see that Iraq is threat. Its just narrow Minded bastartds like this guy who give your country a bad name.

Hi there!
I'm from Spain and I don't know if it means to be european or what because in many aspects this land has more affinities to the Middle-East and Nord-African countries than to central Europe. Frenchies were right when they pointed that Africa really begins under the Pirinees mountains which are the natural border between our countries.Anyway,I DO AGREE WITH YOU. FUCK ALL EUROPE. I'm ashamed for being part of this awful bunch of weak nations. Believe me, there are people here who's upset with the massive anti-war protests which are becoming more violent every day. I share your values, I admire your nation, I truly believe in your lifestyle and I'm grateful to your nation for saving europe two times in the past century. However, I must suggest you something important : PLEASE DON'T WASTE YOUR MORE VALUABLE LIVES TO SAVE THIS PIECE OF SHIT. We, Europeans have proben to be stupid ... We are idiot enough to blame America for cleaning the world out of bastards such as Saddam while we have a muslim population of nearly 20 millions in fast growing. This means that in a century as much there will be muslims enough in Europe to let them build their own arab state ... probably occupying some space between France and Germany. Fuck them. Not to mention Spain ... I'm ashamed for being part of a nation with a glorious past of wars against islam that now is opening his arms to our deadly enemies... I just want that we get what we deserve. In fact, the best we invented was nazism, communism, bloody revolutions and little else. You know, this continent hates you because it has lost his role in history. What I said earlier, just a bunch of losers. Keep the good work, my friends. BOMB FRANCE AND ALSO SPAIN BY THE WAY ... WHAT THE HELL LET'S KILL THE HOLE EUROPE EXCEPT BRITAIN AND SCANDINAVIA.
FUCK EUROPE!

To that stupid Yank, you speak english. CASE CLOSED NOB RASH!

"To that stupid Yank, you speak english. CASE CLOSED NOB RASH!"

To the even more stupid scot named Tom: What language are YOU speaking? scottish or English?

DOH!

CLOSED, NO NOB!

I take exception to the notion that British forces are doing anything less than fighting with bravery and honor. As a devoted right wing conservative, yes an American conservative that fully supports the current Moddle-East action, I tip my hat to the greater UK for deploying some of their finest and bravest to this cause.

God Bless America and Save the Queen

By the way, I still hate France and look forward to the day we re-deploy our fighting force to "OLD EUROPE" to re-unite the French with their ol'bud, Adolph.

Was rummaging through our wine selection the other evening and was elated to find a very nice bottle of French burgandy wine way in the back. I summoned the entire family and together, we poured it down the drain!

Feck em fuck em fuck em. Kill every one of the cheese eating, wine drinking, smelly, hairy, disgusting, poor excuse for human beings. And that's just the women. What was God thinking when he created this bunch? Maybe he wanted to give everybody else a whipping stick.

VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! EUROPA!
DIE ZUKUNFT GEHÖRT UNS! EUROPA!
VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! EUROPA!
DIE ZUKUNFT GEHÖRT UNS! EUROPA!
VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! EUROPA!
DIE ZUKUNFT GEHÖRT UNS! EUROPA!
VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! VIVE LA FRANCE! ES LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! EUROPA!
DIE ZUKUNFT GEHÖRT UNS! EUROPA!

I hate u shit dirty amerikans. Bis aufs Blut!
Your military shows its weaknes in Irak. U fight against a little army of unexperienced, badtrained soldiers with low weapons. U spend milliards of dollars for your army, but u have big problems with zem.
U shot on your own planes and Anti Air Weapons...
Your soldiers are not able to use your technik.
And in Um Kasr u werent able to capture ze city. Only ze brithish reached zis. You are ridiculous, amerikans.
British! U must realize zat u are ze bitch of ze imperialistic bastards! Give up zis way. Zey want use u like an instrument.

Es lebe EUROPA!

I haven't posted to this site in a while I suppose because I've been watching events in Iraq like everyone else in the world. I come back to see what's being said here and I find it has deteriorated into a stupid and silly argument about who is the biggest allied pussies. Well I'd like to say this ain't the fuckin place, we are trying to bomb France Here. Thank you. Consider yourself bitch slapped private.

BY THE WAY, I'll give the Scot's credit for inventing Whiskey, nice job. But Television, Telephone AND Penicillin were invented in the United States, and I'm not going to get into any argument about anyone’s last name or where they came from.

Now shut up and fall in ladies. Onward to France. Bombs over Paris. Fuck Chiraq.

Oh Ya, and Fuck You sturm, or is it sperm, you little Cunt.

This is for the fucking sturm ...
How you dare to argue that germans are better educated and more civilized than Americans? Are you drunk or what? Well, probably...
One of the few thinks Spain does well is to promote tourism and because of our better weather, richer history and landscapes we are forced to deal with millions of stupid, simple-minded, drunken germans which come down here every summer like a biblical plague. Every summer, since I was a child, we are under countless flocks of some kind of pale idiots, who's only goal is to get burned in overcrowded beaches and destroy our country with their barbarian lifestyle. As a matter of fact, some german political parties start their campaign in spanish islands where are large german communities stablished. They are supposed to be clean, civilized and everything better than spaniards... but when the time comes they are as dirty and irrelevant as any african inmigrant could be. The only reason why we tolerate this is because of your sad habit to empty your budgets buying the worst of our own sub-culture thinking that you are experiencing the real spanish way of life. On the other side, Americans are always more discrete. That says a lot of them. I also don't understand who are you trying to fool when showing those pretended french-german friendship. This is false. All germans I've asked about agree with their hate to France and pointed out that your alliance is because france is trying to recover its frustrated imperial role. What a pathetic behaviour for a country which owes it's existence to the U.S. for having saved europe sacrifying thousand of lives. Thanks to britain and scandinavia, you'll never reach your goal. But asides of that, you fool no one. Even the most ignorant knows that you are natural enemies and your pretended " friendship " is just politics. Regarding the frenchs, they love their country so much that are stablishing here in large numbers. What a kind of patriotism! They are as drunk and dirty as germans but at least their feminized behaviour makes them more silent.

P.S.: Don't use your barbarian language ... Yes, BARBARIAN. You're still to be civilized!

GM Chrysler, are you people still here? I made this post like six months ago. Can't you argue about other offensive things I've said since?

i Think you will find that television was invented by john logie baird, but as usual, u guys managed to improve it, but we still invented it, The same goes for the telephone (alaxander Graham Bell), and penicilin (Sir Ian Flemming)

I will have to agree. The German language is filthy Pig latin.

Why cant Germans be Normal? they are either Extreme right wing Nazis, Or bearded lefties that go to nudist colonies and eat shit.

The Eurpoean Union is just Germany's third attempt at dominatting Europe. They tried war the first two times, and failed, Now they are trying politics, Hopefully this will fail as well, then i can burn vast quantitys of that crappy European currency thats worth bugger all.

"The BBC's David Willis, who is with US marines about 100 miles south of Baghdad, says some troops have had their rations cut to just one meal a day."

Poor US troops : not enough food and gas.
And they said they are the best army of the world...

Read your own comments. I hoped this was satirical but as I read more, I realise it isn't.

How can you possibly use the words 'nazi' and 'xenophobic'? This is one of the most racist things I've had the misfortune to read.

How can you be surprised when events like your precious '9/11' take place? If you're representative of the American public (which of course, I don't believe you are) then I sincerely hope that many, many more repeats of that day continue to be brought upon you.

Oh, and I'm British.

It's funny to see the anti-war protests in Britain. Did anyone realized that there were only muslims of every kind, some gays/peacefreakers and little else? I think the good old British fellows should clean their country first before starting foreign adventures with the American friend. Things are worst in continental europe were natives are massively supporting the anti-american movement. Again, this shows how naive was to thing that you would gain support from us.To them I suggest not to save us a third time. We don't deserve it. Besides, it will be good in a sense if we suffer the struggle of a war to realize that the only way to keep peace is being stronger and smashing the enemies at time. Asides of all the national topics, I must admit that I believed in an european union at the beginning but this conflict has proven that it's just an instrument for germany and france to dominate all its neighboring countries with their imposing policies. The western nations shouldn't ignore each other, although nowadays the U.S. could do so without a problem. That's why the french policies towards the war are suicidal for the whole europe.Finally a question to everyone : who's taking advantage of the current disagree between us? And what will happen to europe in the near future with its growing muslim population of almost 20 millions? It doesn't seems rare to preview bloody "intifadas" here.

P.S:No doubt france will be bombed sooner or later. I hope to see that day.

Dear Churchill;

Penicillin was discovered by Alexander Fleming in 1929; however, he could not purify this compound because of its instability. (Ian Flemming wrote James Bond novels) During WWII two other British scientists, Florey and Chain managed to produce the antibiotic on an industrial scale for widespread use working in the USA. The three received the Nobel Prize.

Philo T. Farnsworth invented the current system of television transmission and reception at his 202 Green Street laboratory, San Francisco, CA USA. John Logie Baird's work was a mechanical system that bore no relation to the electronic device of P.T.Farnsworth.

Alexander Graham Bell born a Scot immigrated to America. A.G. Bell invented the telephone, On March 10, 1876, in Boston, Massachusetts with the assistance of Thomas Watson who fashioned the device itself.

The telephone, like most inventions, is a shared accomplishment among many pioneers, therefore, although the credit and rewards were not shared equally. That, too, is often the story of invention.

This means without Scotch the world couldn't have been blessed with Bourbon.

In the spirit of invention, people of all nations should pull together for the greater good of the world to bomb France now.

Jack Shirak, he smokes Crack

The REAL reason why Muslims hate America and Israel (a Christian nation and a Jewish nation). This is something that the liberal press fails to let the world know. Islam is as evil as Nazism, yet ignorants treat Muslims as though they are godly, decent people, and Islam as if it is a "loving, peaceful, great religion," like unlearned Bush has called it in the past while trying to appease Saudi Arabia and so forth. The following verses are straight from the Koran (Qur'an), the Muslim's 'bible.' This is why Muslims are always trying to kill anyone who is not Muslims. I suggest anyone who reads this and who cares makes a copy of this and passes it to as many people as you can, and let them know what Islam is really all about. Chapter and verses are in [brackets]. The word "Book" is in reference to the Holy Bible, and "idol" worshippers are in reference to Jews and Christians:

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[2.120] And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[4.51] Have you not seen those to whom a portion of the Book has been given? They believe in idols and false deities and say of those who disbelieve: These are better guided in the path than those who believe.

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; THEREFORE IF THEY DO NOT WITHDRAW FROM YOU, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, THEN SEIZE THEM AND KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.

[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; BUT IF THEY TURN BACK, THEN SEIZE THEM AND KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

Yep EB, pretty much like evry other religion then.
A load of hate filled bollocks.

"Yep EB, pretty much like evry other religion then.
A load of hate filled bollocks."

Not quite "like every other religion." Christianity's Holy Bible says to "love your enemies," not to "kill them wherever you find them." The Holy Bible also does not say to hate others who are not of the same religion as you are, as the Koran says, nor does the Holy Bible spell out any particular religion to hate, as does the Holy Koran when it comes to "Jews and Christians."

Islam is worse that Nazism, but because of the ignorance of many people in the West, it is ignorantly condoned and even promoted by some unknowing, foolish governments, press and people. If these same people were to ever read the Koran and discover what Islam really is, then there would be an outcry against it, and rightly so.

Hopefully, the cat is coming out of the bag on Islam.

churchill, let me first say that i love the way the british have taken a stance on the right side during this conflict. your forces are to be commended, and your true friendship is greatly appreciated. to all of you posting anti-british rhetoric, please redirect your hate where it needs to be. at france and germany. tom, you are a disgrace to your good people, and i hope that churchill shits upon you.

To EB.

Sure, I have not read the quran.
But I have read the Ancient Testament.
And if I had to make my mind about jews on this, then I would think they must be crazy...

my french teacher stated the "fact" that America may have more money and a better military but we will never have the class of the french.so I propose we offer the french gov. $500000.00 for france(figuring that if we do buy france we will get are money back any way) and if they refuse we bomb them and seize there country,so we have Paris and there fore we have the "class" of the french

amerikans, your terror imperium will go down in flames. Your economie is getting weaker and weaker. Europe becomes more and more powerful. We are on ze right way. You tried to copy our brilliant "Blitzkrieg", but u failed. Your military has very big problems with his imperialistik war. Zey destroy zeir own units and zey cant beat zis little, unexperienced iraki army.
U are alone, with ze britains, who dont realize, zat u only use zem like an instrument.

Your time ist running out.
u will have no chace against us germans, french, belgiums and other friends.
Your country ist ridiculous. Most of your peoples are stupid, bad qualificated nazis.

HOCH LEBE DEUTSCHLAND! VIVE LA FRANCE!
ES LEBE EUROPA! VIVE L`EUROPE! EUROPE RULEZ!

Einigkeit, Kameradschaft, Geschlossenheit.
- Festung Europa -

" Don't use your barbarian language ... Yes, BARBARIAN. You're still to be civilized!"

Hehe! Little Schwächling!

My language ist barbaric? Ha! It ist much nicer than your shit, ugly englisch.
German ist wunderbar. and french ist very nice too.
and i repeat: ze englisch language ist a member of ze germanic languagegroup. zats a fact.

Ein HOCH auf die deutsche Sprache!

Has france ever been to war? or did they always rely on others to save their asses.
Actually, I've been to france. Everything worth bombing is either American or English. Is there a bomb that can only kill all those frogs. I could really use a new place to park when I visit Germany.

My colleague has solved the problem. He suggests putting shower and soap on every coner in france. those smelly dirty s.o.bs will run like a dog with big nuts in a room full of rocking chairs.
(footnote : see history).

Hey French Dude and Italian dude,

news flash:

no one cares about you or your soon to be "officially" american counties. So please don't bother us americans, we are simply too busy running a superpower over here.

Oh yeah, one last point,
French dude was all proud about his company moving to france and giving the French all these jobs.

he ya sparky. You do realize where all the PROFITS are still going right?

I'd just like to say thanks to the sweaty french workers for making the products that we will soon use to bomb you and your families. You can even say "hey ma you see that fine american bomb headed our way, i made that." She will truly be so proud.

It's funny to see these gentiles biting each other. When we will realize who are our real enemies? They must be laughing at us...

France is a Mother Fucking Gay country, and should be blown to hell with our biggest A-bomb, because they are just gay, fucking, faggots, with small dicks; that's why they carry around their French bread! I mean what a bunch of fuckers! We saved their ass twice (WWI & WWII), and how do they repay use? By selling illegal shit to Saddam fucking Hussian! Bunch a faggots. Spending all day fucking those damn mimes, trying to get them to shout. But, that isn't going to work with their small dicks, and their low sperm count! Fuckers!

"France is a Mother Fucking Gay country, and should be blown to hell with our biggest A-bomb, because they are just gay, fucking, faggots, with small dicks; that's why they carry around their French bread..."

How old are you ?