You sure showed him, Frank.

I think at your old age you're begining to get a little soft on your hate speak. Maybe a younger, fresher Republican could fill in for you. You didn't even use the "f" word once...Michael Moore is quite worthy of the "f" word.

What am I saying? Please don't kill me Frank. I know not what I say.

BTW, I did enjoy the electroshock therapy/NYC blackout joke. That was good.

Tim E

Love. Love. Love.
Post. Post. Post.

Great work. I'm sure he's sobbing in his glass of Cool Whip now.

Oh, and on a Michael Moore lying note: Has anyone else noticed that he's skinny on the cover of his new book? He's only skinny when compared to how he really looks, but I saw him at the Oscars and he had Santa's face if Santa was insane and evil. But on the cover of his book his face looked like Jared of Subway, if Jared of Subway were insane and evil. Am I the only one noticing this? Do I need to stop taking my crazy pills?

A group of right-wingers should get together RIGHT NOW and start work on that video game idea. We could call it AMERIKKKA, or CLIMATE OF FEAR, or something catchy like that, and we could give the bad guys "humorous" names like Asscroft and Bushit, and have the hero trying to stage protests, post on the internet, and attend Dixie Chicks concerts all while avoiding the thought police.

Set up a cover so the customers don't know we're kidding, and post ads on DemocraticUnderground and Indymedia, and wait for the money to roll in.

The biggest problem with leftist paranoia is we have yet to find a way to make a buck off it. This is that way.

Gib

Gib wrote- "The biggest problem with leftist paranoia is we have yet to find a way to make a buck off it."

Actually Michael Moore HAS found that way and has been getting quite wealthy off it for some time now. Does anyone really think he believes that carefully crafted diatribe he spews?

Muckadoo?

aelfheld,
The idiots who follow the ideas of Moore and Chomsky.

Muckasee.
Muckadoo.

Comprehension dawns.

Thx.

His Rotundness must be rolling in his jello pudding over your hatingest of hate mails. I should feel sorry for him but I don't and you wanna know why? Because more and more, I'm convinced that Mike Myers was robbed of an oscar for his gripping portrayal of Michael Moore, aka Fat Bastard. That is an injustice I cannot, no, will not, ignore! So thanks for the fun, Frank. My cup of wicked mirth runneth over.

Who would want a role playing computer game starring suMoores when we can play.....HARPOON? Beluga suMoores swims around trying to avoid Aquaman's harpoon. Great fun. Really.

Oh my pants are wet!
I LOVE it!

And just to think, Moore will in in Seattle in a matter of days!

A snippet and big fat link are going on my site that no one sees!

In my worthless opinion, this is one of the funniest things you've written.

"Don’t you dare steal my computer game idea, you fat bastard!"

Again, total greatness

"Well, don't hold me to that... but I will hit you with some cut of lumber based on what is conveniently available."

Would it be proportionate to his size?

MM is going to be in Seattle? THANK G-D I got out when I did! Great letter Frank...although I'm still partial to the first one.

"You’re so lost in your self-righteous fantasies, that, in the end, you must be a sad, lonely, frustrated man."

He might be sad, lonely, and frustrated, but at least we know that ugly bastard isn't going hungry.

By the way Frank, I've moved off blogspot! Please update your link! Pretty please?

Just when I think you can't get any funnier, you always surprise me and keep me in smiles.

I think that if we examine a mind like Mikey Moore's, we'll find potato chips and rat droppings. These elements just might be the source of his extreme girth. Perhapse the rat shit causes the toxicity in his thought patterns that, in turn, produce blatent falacious reasoning.
I don't think we should judge Mr. Moore, I think we should kill him. I say "kill" him because causing his death cannot be considered murder. Releasing his soul into the depths of hell is most definitely justified.
I say, to reak havok on the liberal world is to produce euphoria for my tormented soul. Oh, their existence torments me so.

"The idiots who follow the ideas of Moore and Chomsky."

I'm willing to wager Noam Chomsky has written more books than you have read.

Honestly, what beef do you have with Noam Chomsky?

we *are* your people, frank.

Why would you use a piece of wood, when you have your Katana of Smiting+2 at hand?

Oh, and lay off the jokes about 10 sided dice. :)

I'll tell you beef *I* have with Noam Chomsky (and the Fat Bastard):

He's a loony. A loony liar. A loony liar lying libelously.

What a loser.

Chomsky sucks golf balls through garden hoses.

Ken said...

Actually Michael Moore HAS found that way and has been getting quite wealthy off it for some time now. Does anyone really think he believes that carefully crafted diatribe he spews?

To which I say...that's the problem. MICHAEL MOORE has found a way to make a buck off liberal paranoia. Why should he get paid? The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Video Game (I'm serious, someone who can write code needs to get on that PRONTO), is our chance to "redistribute" a little wealth of our own.

And one day, we will then be able to tell them that the more loony they get, the richer we become. You will then be able to watch as Susan Sarandon has an aneurysm

LittleA,
Sorry. I have a number of friends who play role-playing games, and it was just a jibe.

Let me know when your game comes out.

Freakin hilarious!

"The idiots who follow the ideas of Moore and Chomsky.

Muckasee.
Muckadoo."

...so what do you call the right-wing paranoid idiots who follow the ideas of (skinny, ugly) Coulter and (fat, drooling) Limbaugh?

I don't know what all the Muckadoo's about.

As a card-carrying liberal, even *I* know that Michael Moore is a fat, ugly, baboon-smelling man. It doesn't mean that I behave like some kind of brainless automaton, nodding my head in sickening similarity to MM's gigantic man breasts...

At the same time, either things are exactly as they seem on the surface (i.e. the Republicans are dragging the liberal asshats kicking and screaming to do the right thing in Iraq and on the war on terrorism [Patriot Act and all]), or the craziest of conspiracy theories are correct (including that President Bush is actually an alien bent on destroying western society -- no, actually he's a pinko Commie brainwashed Manchurian Candidate-style and bent on destroying western society).

Or, something in between is the truth. I haven't quite figured that bit out. I'll let you know what I find...

RoQ

Chris said:
"I'm willing to wager Noam Chomsky has written more books than you have read."

First off I Doubt that. But there's a good chance that Dr. Suess has written more books than you've ever read. What's your point?

As for the beef. The idiot Chomsky actually says that America is a terrorist state. Obviously dillusional.

Shep jibed:
"...so what do you call the right-wing paranoid idiots who follow the ideas of (skinny, ugly) Coulter and (fat, drooling) Limbaugh?"

In a thought, mainstream americana.

You *actually* believe that hating America, against buisness/capitalism, and for higher taxes/more Gov'ment is the same as truth, justice, and the American Way???

Remove the tinfoil skullcap, turn-off NPR, and put down Noamies book, 'cause you have logic *issues*...

Answer: Jeff from PRMd

C'mon, Frank - any game modeling something as complex as the Ashcroftian Suppression o' Dissent would have to at least involve twelve- and eight-siders, if not the whole panoply of plastic from four to one hundred.

the us _IS_ a terrorist nation.
the declaration of independance was our call to arms.

go read your beloved patriot act, you know, the one that DOES completely obliterate the remains of our blessed constitution, you'll see that by our own definition this nation is more a terrorist nation today than it was when it was fighting to seperate itself from it's central government.

terrorism is not defined as attacks upon civilians. -- although the us has created a history (under both liberal and conservative administrations) over time which DOES attack civilians.

i've never read one of chomsky's books, and i doubt i would like them, but if he's pointed out that the us was and is a terrorist state, he's absolutely correct.

one man's terrorist _IS_ another man's freedom fighter, no matter how you slice it up. no, i do not condone the murder of innocents, but it is simply an indisputable fact.

Shep jived:
"Answer: Jeff from PRMd"

If you say so... I have to contemplate that.

*FLUSH*

shep,
Coulter isn't ugly and Limbaugh isn't fat anymore. I can't testify one way or another to the drooling.

Frank,
I'd say Coulter may or may not have skin-deep beauty, depending on who's doing the beholding, but no question her ugly goes all the way to the bone. So, with enough drugs and plastic surgery, can Moore win you over?

I really don't know anything about the skid marks in Michael Moore's underwear. Really I don't. And sorry I brought it up. (Muckadoo about nothing.)

Shep said:
"I'd say Coulter may or may not have skin-deep beauty, depending on who's doing the beholding, but no question her ugly goes all the way to the bone. So, with enough drugs and plastic surgery, can Moore win you over?"
Not with a fist full of 20's and a porkchop around his neck.

Moore is less ugly than Coulter? Geez, dude, bag what 'yer smokin', cause what *is* locally available isn't that powerful...

They do random drug testing where you live in Bizzareoland?

***Do not feed the troll, RPT do not feed the troll***

Can't you see that shep is a troll? I have had arguments with trolls before. You can argue with them all day, all they want to do is cause trouble and distract people, so they just keep saying the same thing no matter how many times you disprove it.

Move along, nothing to see here, show's over...

That idiot is Moore than I can stand. He needs the same treatment that Gnome Dumbsky needs.

I love Michael Moore. I agree with everything he says and I love it that he is making you disgusting, stupid, haters so angry. As I am not an American it's easy for me to think that all Americans are power hungry war mongers that want to destroy all of the worlds diverse cultures. Greed and capitalism are taking over, its great to see that there are some good Americans like Michael Moore trying to make a difference for the good of all humans and not just the wealthy with their multiple yachts and mansions.

P.S You are not PROVING anything by just saying someones ideas are stupid; the key to an argument is to actually give a reason for why something is stupid. Maybe if you all thought about issues instead of seeing everything in black and white (or good and evil) you wouldn't be right wing.

Power to the Prolatarian. -James

James,

"As I am not an American it's easy for me to think that all Americans are power hungry war mongers that want to destroy all of the worlds diverse cultures."

I am still deciding whether you are just kidding or are serious about what you have said. But either way you said that you are not American so I'll ask you something. If we wanted to destroy all of the world's diverse cultures, wouldn't we have to start here? Last time I checked we have some of the most, if not THE most diverse culture in the world.

"You are not PROVING anything by just saying someones ideas are stupid; the key to an argument is to actually give a reason for why something is stupid. Maybe if you all thought about issues instead of seeing everything in black and white (or good and evil) you wouldn't be right wing."

It's called satire, the only point of satire is to be funny, not to provide argument. Satire can also be called being funny, joking around, having fun, poking fun at something, or showing how you take everything way too seriously.

*Blink*
*blink*
*takes off glasses, cleans them, reads James W's post again*

Is this guy for real? He calls everyone here stupid, then inserts a comma where one shouldn't be? (If "haters" is used as a group-name, it should be capitalized; if it is not, it should be "disgusting, stupid, hating _____."

Kinda ironic that he justs states that we're stupid and then says we have to give a reason for things to be called stupid, THEN just states that we don't think.

He's joking, right?

Imagine this interview:
We go now to an interview about Michael Moore, best-selling author of Stupid and Dangerous Like Me with his third grade English teacher, Mr. French.

(Q) So what was Mike Moore really like, Mr. French?

(A) Michael seemed a good boy, until he went for that Yasser look...and this in the third grade! I tried to teach him some hygiene, but basic english itself was just too much of a load.

(Q) Hygiene?

(A) Well, patchy-hairy third-graders...

(Q) I understand...You mentioned Basic English...

James Wakefield,

Cease and desist from saying you "love" me. As much of a lefty pinko commie that I am, and, despite the support I freely give to all things evil including the gay community, I do not wish to enter into a consensual relationship with you.

I am happily married to my wife, even if she is not happily married to me.

Get out of my mind, you wierdo!

James, to choose but one statement I take exception to, I am living proof that not all warmongers are power-hungry.;) They say that beauty is only skin-deep, but in the case of Michael Moore, ugliness goes all the way through. He still hasn't publicly apologized to the people of Colorado for blatantly exploiting the Columbine massacre for his so-called documentary.

"Can't you see that shep is a troll? I have had arguments with trolls before. You can argue with them all day, all they want to do is cause trouble and distract people, so they just keep saying the same thing no matter how many times you disprove it."

Oh, sorry for anything that might have frightened you with the possibility of an actual argument, Ken. You can safely go back to dittoland now.

Perfectly good straight line wasted...sheesh!

Hang in their shep, many more are now on their way to gang bang your a_ _.

Thanks for the “heads-up” Bilbus. I don’t go that way but, considering how much they like talking about their big guns, I don’t believe I’ll feel a thing.

for peeps that supposedly embrace satire, you sure have missed the boat on moore. moore is a satirist, and to group moore with chomsky is almost criminal. and why is al frankin not included? are you guys straight edgers? alot of this drivle certainally stinks like thiers. never the less, frank you need more coffee, because you almost formed a cognitive thought.

Ohh dude, I want to work on that game! Email me if you ever get funding. I'll bet I could scroung up a ton of experience but currently unemployed computer game artists and programmers in no time flat.

OK, you SOB -- you owe me big time. I just read this, after reading your other letter to MM and I laughed so hard I pulled a muscle in my back. I'm not making this up. I've had a damaged disk for 20 yrs and this is no laughing matter, but I couldn't stop laughing! Do you know what it feels like to have a pulled muscle -- to be having back spasms while you're laughing?

It bloody well fucking HURTS! That's what it feels like! I'll probably be laid up up for a week now -- and it's all your fault, you genius bastard! Godamnit, I can hardly type; I'm still laughing -- you have much to answer for, lemme tell you. And keep up the good work! And expect a bill...

who is michael moore?
i now 1 n hate 1 but i dont now if it is the same 1 n i atually have a proper reason for hating him he broke up my family n he is a bastard

http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/secrettrailer.html

You are a stupid litlle man that should go fuck a pig

You are a little fuck that should go little the pig ha ha ha ha ha I'm so high. Long live liberales!

Join us in saying NO To Fahrenheit911! Fight for decency vs this political smear piece that defiles the memories of the victims of 9/11!

http://www.conservativepetitions.com/petitions.php?id=248

In Moore's world, Osama bin Laden engineered 9/11 because he was mad about Bush stealing the election. And the people who saved lives on Flight 93 were cowards who just wanted to keep on stealing from poor foreigners. And people hate us because they are poor. And because we make them rich. Moore is an idiot. The thing that people have to realize though, is that Moore really is like Chomsky, in the same way Oliver Stone or Danny Glover is like Chomsky. They both look for how everything is America's fault first, without caring much about the details. To these people, fact gets seriously in the way of truth. I'm not a Republican, but even I can see these psychos for what they are.

great humour there boys, shame about the complete lack of intelligence and objectivity... Michael, you are fat, you are ugly and fat and ugly, and did i mention you were fat ? Wow, how smart are you guys, with such incredible ease do you use the english language, how original of you, I bet you must all have been the best bullies at your school. I wish you all die horrible deaths you right-wing nutters !!!

Why must we fight against each other? use your energy on the conservitives!!!!

I must say I find it absolutely hilarious how seriously the left-leaning commentors take Frank's letters. It's like Calvin And Hobbes: "You get bonus points if they lose their train of thought!"

For crying out loud, folks, it's satire! It's humor! Jokes! It's not supposed to be a well formulated argument against the man's positions, and it doesn't pretend to be one. It's supposed to make you laugh at the expense of a collective image of some third party (in this case, Michael Moore).

Give it a rest, folks. You should probably stick around and read some more of Frank's work. It will become fairly obvious what this stuff is meant to do: make you laugh, (as opposed to proving someone wrong).

I agree with this Austin. This Frank guy is pretty funny. He would be fun to smoke pot with.

Why must we spewe hate? Why do we have hate? Because people are afraid and they are taught it. Don't teach your children to hate people.

Has the American public got two brain cells to rub together? Does the guy who wrote this article even have an opinion of his own, or does he just spout mindless abuse?

Mindless abuse! Mindless abuse hurah! My opinon on the other hand is that All of you will serve me in the next life. Located in butiful Cacun. I'm so high

Your a fucking idiot.

Your right Sean as every one knows everyone will serve me in the after life and it's located in Chile. Because everyone knows you can never have enough Chile.

You lying liars are retarted

and your jokes arent funny.

I have to admit, I have never seen a more valid argument to Michael Moore. To call him, fat, stupid, ugly, smelly. . .why, that's pure genius. Thank Bush that we have a devoted Christain patriot to attack his opponents with such brillant rhetoric.

And the best part of this post will be to see the backlash that I will get for what the sarcasm I just wrote. I'm sure it will range from 0 to 10 year old words to try and make themselves more intelligent than me. Thank God for you all.

Well I just wasted about thirty minutes of my day reading all this crap!!

What are you guys even talking about? You are going back and forth fighting about Michael Moore! Why don't you use some of this energy and time researching some of this leftist paranoid propaganda and start debunking it, rather than sit and rant about someones physical appearance. You people have not brought one good argument about any issue that Moore or Chomsky touch on! You are all just belittling yourselves to personal attacks, you all sound like a bunch of Democrats going after Dean or something. Do you even read any of their work?? It doesn't seem like it!

Read. Learn. Grow. Oh who am I kidding, spend the next Thirty minutes planning how you are going to show me what a dim whit I am. Rather than going to www.deceptiondollar.com searching various leftist links and factually debunk some of the shockingly logical "paraniod rhetoric".

you all are right except the ones who pitty this fat ass i am glad i have found people like you i haet this punk so much he should die if anybody want to talk to me about this email me irondog12@hotmail.com or yahoo at irondog122001
anyways what i am trying to say is if michael moore thinks our country sucks so bad the send him to iraq and let him try to seel his god forsacin books there i hate him so much anyone share my opinion l8er

What are you big shot Americans going to do, now that North Korea has nukes you Americans seem to be shitting in your pants. What are you going to do now? nuke them and kill millions like you did in Japen?.
Go on now stupid Americans and go run for your guns and oversized pick-up you stupid hillbilly, narrow-minded, and CNN watching Americans!

DON'T FORGET, LOOK AT THE HISOTRY, EVERY NATION FALLS ONE DAY AND AMERICA IS NO EXCEPTION. IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

yo seem to speck from experience and were like we are because we watch Fox not CNN. USA USA USA!!!

OI! kaka va seriøst ikke like go som den forrige usa hadd å tilby! Men seriøst kis.. æ opplevd den syke tingen igår! DU ANE ITJ!#" Andy katt va dritt søt! Kyss fra den norske imperialisten TOPP DÅGG MA-A fock

Yo Frank J.,
Did Mike Moore ever reply to your hate mail?

shut up thomas you fat fat fat smelly person whith your opinions and ideas and your fat. and fat so shut up you fat fat

(quote)
I must say I find it absolutely hilarious how seriously the left-leaning commentors take Frank's letters. It's like Calvin And Hobbes: "You get bonus points if they lose their train of thought!"

For crying out loud, folks, it's satire! It's humor! Jokes! It's not supposed to be a well formulated argument against the man's positions, and it doesn't pretend to be one. It's supposed to make you laugh at the expense of a collective image of some third party (in this case, Michael Moore).

Give it a rest, folks. You should probably stick around and read some more of Frank's work. It will become fairly obvious what this stuff is meant to do: make you laugh, (as opposed to proving someone wrong).

(end quote)
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Exactly!

Here are my favorite laughs from this blog:
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"The idiots who follow the ideas of Moore and Chomsky."

I'm willing to wager Noam Chomsky has written more books than you have read.

Honestly, what beef do you have with Noam Chomsky?"
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Freakin hilarious!

"The idiots who follow the ideas of Moore and Chomsky.

Muckasee.
Muckadoo."

...so what do you call the right-wing paranoid idiots who follow the ideas of (skinny, ugly) Coulter and (fat, drooling) Limbaugh?

(This one showed the real idiocy of the left and has my vote for the funniest response because it was so blatantly false)
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the us (sic) _IS_ a terrorist nation.
the declaration of independence (sic) was our call to arms.

go read your beloved patriot act, you know, the one that DOES completely obliterate the remains of our blessed constitution, you'll see that by our own definition this nation is more a terrorist nation today than it was when it was fighting to separate (sic) itself from it's central government.

terrorism is not defined as attacks upon civilians. -- although the us has created a history (under both liberal and conservative administrations) over time which DOES attack civilians.

i've never read one of chomsky's books, and i doubt i would like them, but if he's pointed out that the us was and is a terrorist state, he's absolutely correct.

one man's terrorist _IS_ another man's freedom fighter, no matter how you slice it up. no, i do not condone the murder of innocents, but it is simply an indisputable fact.
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I'd say Coulter may or may not have skin-deep beauty, depending on who's doing the beholding, but no question her ugly goes all the way to the bone. So, with enough drugs and plastic surgery, can Moore win you over?
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I love Michael Moore. I agree with everything he says and I love it that he is making you disgusting, stupid, haters so angry. As I am not an American it's easy for me to think that all Americans are power hungry war mongers that want to destroy all of the worlds diverse cultures. Greed and capitalism are taking over, its great to see that there are some good Americans like Michael Moore trying to make a difference for the good of all humans and not just the wealthy with their multiple yachts and mansions.

P.S You are not PROVING anything by just saying someones (sic) ideas are stupid; the key to an argument is to actually give a reason for why something is stupid. Maybe if you all thought about issues instead of seeing everything in black and white (or good and evil) you wouldn't be right wing.

(a close second)
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for peeps that supposedly embrace satire, you sure have missed the boat on moore. moore is a satirist, and to group moore with chomsky is almost criminal. and why is al frankin not included? are you guys straight edgers? alot of this drivle certainally (sic) stinks like theirs (sic). never the less, frank you need more coffee, because you almost formed a for peeps that for peeps that supposedly embrace satire, you sure have missed the boat on moore. moore is a satirist, and to group moore with chomsky is almost criminal. and why is al frankin not included? are you guys straight edgers? alot of this drivle certainally(sic) stinks like theirs (sic). never the less, frank you need more coffee, because you almost formed a cognitive thought.

(ooooo a lefty with a cognitive thought LMAO)
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You are a stupid litlle (sic) man that should go fuck a pig
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You are a little fuck that should go little the pig ha ha ha ha ha I'm so high. Long live liberales (sic)
AND
Your a fucking idiot.

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great humour there boys, shame about the complete lack of intelligence and objectivity... Michael, you are fat, you are ugly and fat and ugly, and did i mention you were fat ? Wow, how smart are you guys, with such incredible ease do you use the english language, how original of you, I bet you must all have been the best bullies at your school. I wish you all die horrible deaths you right-wing nutters !!!
(this one had me ROTF)
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Has the American public got two brain cells to rub together? Does the guy who wrote this article even have an opinion of his own, or does he just spout mindless abuse?
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You lying liars are retarted

and your jokes aren’t (sic) funny.

(SOUNDS LIKE BOOK TITLE...I THINK)
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I have to admit, I have never seen a more valid argument to Michael Moore. To call him, fat, stupid, ugly, smelly. . .why, that's pure genius. Thank Bush that we have a devoted Christain patriot to attack his opponents with such brillant (sic) rhetoric.

And the best part of this post will be to see the backlash that I will get for what the sarcasm I just wrote. I'm sure it will range from 0 to 10 year old words to try and make themselves more intelligent than me. Thank God for you all.

("Thank God for all of you"...don't you mean Mother Earth???)
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What are you big shot Americans going to do, now that North Korea has nukes you Americans seem to be shitting in your pants. What are you going to do now? nuke them and kill millions like you did in Japen?. (sic) [if need be]
Go on now stupid Americans and go run for your guns and oversized pick-up you stupid hillbilly, narrow-minded, and CNN (sic) watching Americans!

DON'T FORGET, LOOK AT THE HISOTRY, EVERY NATION FALLS ONE DAY AND AMERICA IS NO EXCEPTION. IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER (Like You)
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Sorry to drag you all though that leftist crap again...but don't ya just have to laugh??

actually, i watch foxnews. but that's just me.

it's news fair and balanced.

Fair and Balanced if youre a tranible

You fucking suck. like OMG OMG someone's actually CRITICIZING america, he should be stoned. He's a great deal smarter than you are, and you can't even write a proper letter, you fail in life and deserve to burn eternally in hell for hating somebody who's simply voicing his intellectual opinion supported by facts. You are evidently a 24/7 moronic american that doesn't get SHIT, and you probably vote George Bush.

Fuck you, go crawl back into that little hole where you came from. DIE

what is all this crap? its just some guy stating what he thinks is rite. not to side wit moore, but all you have there is a fuckin pile of donkey shit. you cant win moore in a debate? ok, lets jus trash-talk him and hope that he stops criticizing america our one and only!! honestly, i couldnt find one bit of purposeful info in that letter. moore's books actually have PURPOSE! guess what? your letter is jus a diss!!
if youre so hateful try writing a book- ill trash talk you. american music rules... america as a country doesnt.

wow.. you must be really smart, calling Micheal Moore a fat bastard.

YOU SHOULD BE GETTING MONEY FOR THIS!

While the hate mail was weak Michael Moore still is awful. If any of you can watch Bowling for Columbine and not realize how manipulative he is, then tough luck, go get em next time. It's hard to trust someone who lies, and he makes a career off it. Way to go Mikey. Big corporations are responsible for everything that is wrong in America...go live in China, see how you like it over there. He is a whiner and never once has he offered a suggestion for Improvement. It's a lot easier to play the blame game isn't it. Get jobs you liberal blood suckers!

to kevin

your right michael moore is manipulative. It's amazing how you picked up on that. So I'm sure you know how manipulative the right is. (and to frank. thanks for the good laugh)

The conjunction for "you are" is you're, not your. Go buy a hemp necklace.

Commie-lardman can go screw a goat for all I care. His leftism is a disease plaguing the innocent. There will be rejoicing when that fat soviet prick is assassinated. I would love to just hang him by his toenails from a tree while locusts eat at his flesh and squirrels piss on him. The guy enrages me so much, along with the rest of his sick leftist cult of "rage against the machine", NDP in Canada. We need some voodoo so we can kill him, resurrect him, and kill him again. I hate that tub-o-lard, HATE HIM with a passion.

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I hate Michael Moore. He's so gay its not even funny. This one time he banged a guy in the butt with his penis.

Wow...I never thought you could take a two sentences about actual political rubuttle and make it into a full page rant about the effects of mcdonalds and human hair growth on one of the great policital dissidents of our time. Sure he may be self righteous and arrogant, but who gives a crap, at least he's out there informing the public of the things they should be aware of. And don't call Michael Moore arrogant for going out and being active in the community when all your doing is sitting at your computer typing out some babble about how you hate fat, middle aged, unkempt liberals who are actually intelligent enough to notice what's wrong with society and exploit it. Now i'm doing the same as you by sitting here typing out my disagreements, but then again I don't go on and on about your personal physique or your actual logic, which is questionable and could be elaborated on, but im not making this any more than it has to be so i'll sum it up in one sentence. Hypocritical computer geeks should not stay at home bitching about society, and about how the people that do try to improve society are stupid...read that last sentence over again, and actually do something for society instead of wasting your own potential by making something so narcisitic as your own web page about YOUR VIEWS. Wow....and you say michael moore is arrogant...

to Lou

At least moore was the one giving it to you and not the other way around.

hehe I posted (Zatoichi2)a civil reply on a democrat post board off of michaelmoore.com, and within ten minutes I was banned, and my IP blocked when i sent email to the admins(proxy worked, of course)

Guess what liberals, MM is flat out wrong. You want someone to disagree with his politics, right? Ok I will. We live in America, not cuba. If a company wants to move, they can. Individual companies are not responsible for the well being of those that they give opportunities to. They have positions that pay a certain wage, and if you want to earn more, do some work and become SKILLED. In bowling for C he makes no conclusions! So what does he do? He falls back on what worked for him in Roger and Me - blaming big corporations! Yay! Unsubstantiated blaming! He said that guns are not the reasos for violence being that Canada is a gun toting country. Well, why blame Kmart for the Columbine masacre??? Oh, by the way, kids are gunned down in the city all the time. Why is it that the focus of the documentary was on white kids at a school in Colorado? Why does that hit so hard? Go into the city and figure that out! Oh well, this won't be heard, but I still hate MM. He is BS and I wish everyone could see it

Mr. Moore is one of the most arrogant asses to come out of the entertainment industry in recent history. He should thank the Bush administration and the War on Terror, because he's become a fucking millionare thanks to the fact that he has something to yell at every time something in the world goes wrong. Bowling for Columbine and the zombie following it has generated has helped him undoubtedly, but the Bush Administration and Operation Iraqi Freedom have kept him going. If Bush doesn't get reelected, then he's lost a few key assets to keeping his fat ass in the mainstream public spotlight for another four years.

bush is a dumbass.
NDP is the only party that knows what theyre doing.
Michael Moore is more of a patriot that any of you right wing motherfuckers. You know whats funniest about this though... I can't help but notice how you're calling him "MM" as if he were Big Brother or something.
also... i laughed my ass off when i read this:
"actually, i watch foxnews. but that's just me.

it's news fair and balanced."
fox news... yea.... "fair"... "balanced"
who the fuck are you trying to kid?
anyway let me go out with this
FREE LAMO
FREE MUMIA
FREE SHERMAN
FREE LEONARD
and
send Bush and all of his cronies to the 7th level.
P. S. there are 40 million americans without health care and youre pissing away money on a stupid march of death. good going guys.
damn im glad i live in canada... WHERE THE NDP GOT US FREE HEALTH CARE. FUCKIN A, they rock my socks.

you are so dame lukey you get to live in canada. It sucks to live in america, what's even worses is living in utah. And they won't let me leave. Bust me out Canadian man!!!

michael moore

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http://moorestinks.blogspot.com

What I’ve noticed in contemporary America is that an unquestioning, absolute worship of the Bush Administration is patriotism. Fuck that. A real patriot is one who cares about the political system and strives for its improvement. Someone who doesn’t care for the well being of their country is unquestionably unpatriotic. So next time one of you right winger’s attempts to claim you have a moral high ground because you are part of the Republican Party that is traditionally patriotic, think again:

A blind support I hear spouted from most of you only proves your ‘unpatriotism’ and lack of care for the health and strength of your country.

For the time being, considering for the sake of the argument – and if patriotism was an unquestioning worship of the administration – what the US government has done in the last 60 years (regardless of whether it was in a Democratic or Republican premiership) is hardly something to be proud of.

If any of you guys or girls had any knowledge on the atrocities supported or conducted by the US government in South America, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Iran, North Africa and the Middle East in general, while you sit comfortably enjoying the free internet that you, and only you have, then patriotism, be it unquestioning or not, is not something I, or any else, would be proud of. If you stopped babbling on about superficial issues and started engaging in a meaningful and intellectually engaging conversation you might learn a thing or two. Until then, I can only laugh as you degrade yourself

For all you supporters of the Iraq war:

567,000 Iraqi children under the age of 5 have died as a direct result of the sanctions imposed by the American and British governments. This is a conservative estimate taken by the Red Cross and UNICEF – the same organization that imposed the sanctions through British and American representatives.

So, again, think twice the next time you claim we are liberating a poor and depraved country when the only liberation we have given them is the decade of torture and economic sanctions that forced the starving people of Iraq to comply with Saddam’s regime

As the man in charge of this “intellectually stimulating” website said: ‘I hate you [MM] for your idiotic viewpoints’.

Now for some this may appear a reasonable thing to say given that Moore’s work is by no means perfect. But if you judge the man who slandered him, who has trolled on about Moore’s fatigue, hair and flatulence in a tirade that would make Charlton Heston rallies look like a convention of fairies, then I suppose we really should avoid taking him seriously. (Or better still: we shouldn’t treat him as someone who is NOT an idiot.)

Laughably, you pointed out:

“what [MM’s film’s/book’s] could lead to is... no, I don't think it is going to lead to anything actually” adding that “You [MM] have pretty much no chance of affecting any major public policy.”

I presume you won’t grant him the honour of being censored from the entire American populace – censorship has just a little to do with public policy – because of the nature of the content of his new film.

I presume you won’t grant him the fact that his new film was deemed so harmful to the Bush presidency that Michael Eisner, Disney’s chief Executive, affectively banned it. Surely by your reckoning, this man’s work can’t lead to ‘anything’. Well if he can’t than neither can the pope, terrorists, GB and Jesus. Even so, as one person put it, he’s doing more than you sitting typing on your pc.

This one really makes me laugh:

“The idiots who follow the ideas of Moore and Chomsky.”

With all your insults, for a minute there, I thought you perceived Moore as the champion of the left. Well, i may have to disregard the comparison you made with Moore and Chomsky, which by all definition, is laughable. But i will point out however, that Chomsky, the man who invented an entire new way of interpreting language, a totally new theory; the man who is regarded by any intellectual – or even someone with half a brain – as being the best linguist in the world, the top of his field, is intelligent.

Surely because he has won awards, prizes, honoree degrees and is a professor in linguistics (despite his dissidence) this man has more of a functional brain than you.

To become a professor requires an enormous amount of intelligence and kind of drive you and your ilk will never have.

To be regarded as ‘the best’ in any particular field, even in something as mundane as soil erosion, is something close to a one in a billion.

To own a pc and start a website that caters for the grossly ignorant and arrogant fringe section of the population requires only a rich dad and an insecure life.

If you would like to put across a grounded argument for why you feel Moore is wrong or why you hate him than please do so. You know where to find me…

I think you suck! You are so rude and have no idea what you are talking about! All he is doing is trying to make morons like you realise that american society is completely screwed up and that to live in a more peaceful world you need to change! I think you should grow up, use better calls than that of his physical appearnce (if you can think of any) and maybe just for once listen to someone else other than yourself. Keep me posted, love always. Xoxox

and another thing. You suck!!! You have no friends except those pitiful people who have nothing better to do. frankie you suck! Grow up! Bye

i love cassie

>If any of you guys or girls had any knowledge on the atrocities supported or conducted by the US government in South America, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Iran, North Africa and the Middle East in general

By your the communist and radical islam you coddle. Every single instance you cite was part of the KGB-funded "revolution" your lefty forfathers sympathized with. Utter hypocrisy by the never-apologize left.

>567,000 Iraqi children under the age of 5 have died as a direct result of the sanctions imposed by the American and British governments.

Lies. The figures you cite aside, they were UN sanctions, not US or British. You seem to be like a mini-Bush--playing fast with the truth. And even blaming the UN for Saddam's murderous exploitation of the UN sanctions is shameful. Coming from people who would have prefered to continue such "containment" instead of ending Saddam's regime & the sanctions is a bit rich, don't you think?

But no one ever expected the continually amnesiac America-hating left to be reasonable or consistent.

>But i will point out however, that Chomsky, the man who invented an entire new way of interpreting language, a totally new theory; the man who is regarded by any intellectual – or even someone with half a brain – as being the best linguist in the world, the top of his field, is intelligent.

LOL. You obviously know nothing about linguistics. Chomsky's armchair theories are all being proven wrong. Find me one well-respected practicing linguist who would call Chomsky the "best linguist in the world" without laughing. Ha ha. Speaking of genocide, Chomsky supported the Khmer Rouge's massacre of 1.7 million. He supported the communist genocide of 93 million for the entirety of the Cold War. Still waiting for an apology from truth-challenged "anarcho-syndicalist" Chomsky.

http://moorestinks.blogspot.com

you stupid americans...the whole world is laughing in your faces!!!
did you know 30% of the americans don't know what 10% of an other number is??did you know there were so many volenteers for the vietnam war because they thaugt america was under atack by a neighbour country..and they thought vietnam was that country!!!! i mean..the whole world knows that youre all a bunch of hilbillies and your president is the biggest dumb ass of all of you!!!michael moore is just showing the world how corrupt..powerhorny and totally insane the american leaders are..salute

Michael Moore is a clown....

Is there a web site?

I have so much hate to share...

I found a new favorite website... After having written a number of hate e-mails to Mr. Monkeybitches, I mean Moore, I stumbled across your site after doing a Google search for "I hate Michael Moore".

You are my new homepage.

P.S. Did you know that IhateMichaelMoore.com is a registered domain name?

First things first, you said:

“93 million for the entirety of the Cold War.”

What??? I was under the impression that the cold war was not actually a war and that the two superpowers, Russia and America, were threatening each other but didn’t actually attack each other. The closest they got to all out nuclear war, which was why it was called the cold – nuclear winter – war, was the Cuban missile crisis.

Well, maybe that’s my misguided notion of history – but until you can back your argument up with some substantial evidence, and by this I mean something coming from a respectable source, then I’m going to have to treat your statement as a belief and nothing more.

Another thing I noticed established in your argument was that you assumed the Soviet Union, because of its communist name, was actually a communist society. On the contrary, the Soviet Union achieved power – as many parties do nowadays – by claiming to be left-of-centre, and by claiming to champion ‘the people’. Unfortunately, ‘the people’ believed them. However, the infamous Soviet Union we know today was not based on communism, rather on a system of state capitalism. If you consider the repression of free speech (not a communist ideal), the secret police (not a communist ideal) and the totalitarian political system (communism is based on democracy) then you can’t claim the Soviet Union is, by any definition, communist.

This is probably why our friend Pete or Jamie (I get confused) will not respond because he feels he has nothing to apologise for. If you’re going to believe that every country’s named political system is the genuine political system they have, you might as well believe in fairies. You only have to look at China to see how “uncommunist” the state really is. I mean if you really do think every state that bears the name of communism is actually communist you might as well believe the Nazis were socialists: NAZI stands for National Socialists!

Moving on, from my reckoning, the recurring theme in your argument was that firstly, the left never apologize and secondly Chomsky and other left sympathisers support genocide.

First things first, the reason why the left never apologize is because, in comparison with the right, the left has nothing to apologise for. Of course, there are instances where the left gained power and almost immediately became crooked (alas this is actually a common trend) like the case of Soviet Russia – but to move from this observation to the one that claims the left never apologize is meaningless because these so-called left states were in no way representative of left-of-centre political ideology. Thus there should be no reason for the left to apologise for something that didn’t concur with their ideology. Moreover, just because you believe all lefties supported the Soviet Union – with all this implies politically and socially – this doesn’t make it so. A true lefty is one that supports emancipation.

Even so, now that I have said that and thought about it for a while, if the left don’t apologise, they have good reason to.

The right have yet to apologise for capitalism, and all the social and political implications this has brought upon all societies, globalisation, imperialism, colonialism, the 14 hour working day, class privilege, the seven day working week, the opium wars, children in coal mines, the massacre at the Paris commune, slavery, the Spanish American war, the Boer war, starvation, apartheid, anti-union laws, the First World War, Flanders, trench warfare, mustard gas, aerial bombing, the soviet intervention, the armed genocide, chemical weapons, fascism, the great depression, hunger marches, Nazism, the Spanish civil war, radiation death, the massacre of Nanking, Belsden, Dresden, Hiroshima, the Second World War, racism, nuclear weapons, the rape of the third world, the arms race, McCarthyism, environmental degradation and the military suppression of Greece, India, Malaya, Indonesia, Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama and Turkey (to name but a few of the rights’ errors).

So don’t try and claim you have the moral high ground when I have not heard one apology from you or any other right-winger for all of these substantial errors. This brings me onto the other theme you had underlying in your argument, the left support genocide.

Well, last time I checked the right was the side that promoted a “fend for yourself” and a “survival of the fittest” approach on affairs of state. The supposed goodness of the right is totally undermined when you compare it to the left and, as I pointed out in the previous paragraphs, the left stand for emancipation – regardless of some states bearing the guise of communism, socialism, etc. – so to bring in morality into your post is, how can I put it, ridiculous. The right is famous, or infamous, for the reluctance to support the minority and needy groups of society, so don’t try and bring morality into an argument that puts a premium on rationality and objectivity.

Again, until you can give me some reliable evidence that points to Noam Chomsky supporting the deaths of over a million people then I will treat you belief as totally unjustified.

Anyway, you said:

“Every single instance you cite was part of the KGB-funded "revolution" your lefty forfathers sympathized with. Utter hypocrisy by the never-apologize left.”

Well that sounds a little bit like a conspiracy theory coming from the daily edition of right-winger magazine, or possibly a tabloid, doesn’t it?

The KGB did not fund Indonesia in the sixties when General Suharto’s army killed 600,000 people. Nope, the World Bank and the IMF funded that one with the support of the British, Australian and American governments.

The KGB did not fund the Nicaraguan death squads, oh no, that was funded by America. When the sadistic and merciless rule of Somoza was challenged by the Sandinistas in the late 1970s, the US first tried to institute what was called "Somocismo [Somoza-ism] without Somoza"-that is, the whole corrupt system intact, but with somebody else at the top. That didn't work, so President Carter tried to maintain Somoza's National Guard as a base for US power.

The National Guard had always been remarkably brutal and sadistic. By June 1979, it was carrying out massive atrocities in the war against the Sandinistas, bombing residential neighbourhoods in Managua, killing tens of thousands of people. At that point, the US ambassador sent a cable to the White House saying it would be "ill advised" to tell the Guard to call off the bombing, because that might interfere with the policy of keeping them in power and the Sandinistas out.

The US ambassador to the Organization of American States also spoke in favour of "Somocismo without Somoza," but the OAS rejected the suggestion flat out. A few days later, Somoza flew off to Miami with what was left of the Nicaraguan national treasury, and the Guard collapsed.

The Carter administration flew Guard commanders out of the country in planes with Red Cross markings (a war crime – and by the way, while we’re on the subject of war crimes, the US is the only state on record to be charged and convicted of War crimes in the international court, Nicaragua), and began to reconstitute the Guard on Nicaragua's borders. They also used Argentina as a proxy. (At that time, Argentina was under the rule of neo-Nazi generals, but they took a little time off from torturing and murdering their own population to help re-establish the Guard-soon to be re named the contras, or "freedom fighters.")

Reagan used them to launch a large-scale terrorist war against Nicaragua, combined with economic warfare that was even more lethal. America also intimidated other countries so they wouldn't send aid either.

And yet, despite astronomical levels of military support, the United States failed to create a viable military force in Nicaragua. That's quite remarkable, if you think about it. No real guerrillas anywhere in the world have ever had resources even remotely like what the United States gave the contras. You could probably start a guerrilla insurgency in mountain regions of the US with comparable funding...

Why did the US go to such lengths in Nicaragua? The international development organization Oxfam explained the real reasons, stating that, from its experience of working in 76 developing countries, "Nicaragua was...exceptional in the strength of that government's commitment...to improving the condition of the people and encouraging their active participation in the development process."

Of the four Central American countries where Oxfam had a significant presence (El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua), only in Nicaragua was there a substantial effort to address inequities in land ownership and to extend health, educational and agricultural services to poor peasant families.

Other agencies told a similar story. In the early 1980s, the World Bank called its projects "extraordinarily successful in Nicaragua in some sectors, better than anywhere else in the world."

In 1983, The Inter-American Development Bank concluded "Nicaragua has made noteworthy progress in the social sector, which is laying the basis for long-term socio-economic development."

The success of the Sandinista reforms terrified US planners. They were aware that-as Jose Figueres, the father of Costa Rican democracy, put it-"for the first time, Nicaragua has a government that cares for its people." (Although Figueres was the leading democratic figure in Central America for forty years, his unacceptable insights into the real world were completely censored from the US media.)

The hatred that was elicited by the Sandinistas for trying to direct resources to the poor (and even succeeding at it) was truly wondrous to behold. Just about all US policymakers shared it, and it reached virtual frenzy.

Back in 1981, a State Department insider boasted that we would "turn Nicaragua into the Albania of Central America"-that is, poor, isolated and politically radical-so that the Sandinista dream of creating a new, more exemplary political model for Latin America would be in ruins.

George Shultz called the Sandinistas a "cancer, right here on our land mass," that has to be destroyed. At the other end of the political spectrum, leading Senate liberal Alan Cranston said that if it turned out not to be possible to destroy the Sandinistas, then we'd just have to let them "fester in [their] own juices."

So the US launched a three-fold attack against Nicaragua. First, they exerted extreme pressure to compel the World Bank and Inter-American Development Bank to terminate all projects and assistance.

Second, they launched the contra war along with an illegal economic war to terminate what Oxfam rightly called "the threat of a good ex ample." The contras' vicious terrorist attacks against "soft targets" under US orders did help, along with the boycott, to end any hope of economic development and social reform. US terror ensured that Nicaragua couldn't demobilize its army and divert its pitifully poor and limited resources to reconstructing the ruins that were left by the US-backed dictators and Reaganite crimes.

One of the most respected Central America correspondents, Julia Preston (who was then working for the Boston Globe), reported "Administration officials said they are content to see the contras debilitate the Sandinistas by forcing them to divert scarce resources toward the war and away from social programs." That's crucial, since the social programs were at the heart of the good example that might have infected other countries in the region and eroded the American system of exploitation and robbery.

The US Government even refused to send disaster relief. After the 1972 earthquake, it sent an enormous amount of aid to Nicaragua, most of which was stolen by our buddy Somoza. In October 1988, an even worse natural disaster struck Nicaragua-Hurricane Joan. The US didn't send a penny for that, because if it had, it would probably have got to the people, not just into the pockets of some rich thug. The US also pressured our allies to send very little aid.

This devastating hurricane, with its welcome prospects of mass starvation and long-term ecological damage, reinforced our efforts. The US wanted Nicaraguans to starve so we could accuse the Sandinistas of economic mismanagement. Because they weren't under our control, Nicaraguans had to suffer and die.

Third, the US government used diplomatic fakery to crush Nicaragua. As Tony Avirgan wrote in the Costa Rican journal Mesoamerica, "the Sandinistas fell for a scam perpetrated by Costa Rican president Oscar Arias and the other Central American Presidents, which cost them the February [1990] elections."

For Nicaragua, the peace plan of August 1987 was a good deal, Avrigan wrote: they would move the scheduled national elections forward by a few months and allow international observation, as they had in 1984, "in exchange for having the contras demobilized and the war brought to an end...." The Nicaraguan government did what it was required to do under the peace plan, but no one else paid the slightest attention to it.

Arias, the White House and Congress never had the slightest intention of implementing any aspect of the plan. The US virtually tripled CIA supply nights to the contras. Within a couple of months the peace plan was totally dead. As the election campaign opened, the US made it clear that the embargo that was strangling the country and the contra terror would continue if the Sandinistas won the election. You have to be some kind of Nazi or unreconstructed Stalinist to regard an election conducted under such conditions as free and fair- and south of the border, few succumbed to such delusions.

If anything like that were ever done by our enemies...I leave the media reaction to your imagination. The amazing part of it was that the Sandinistas still got 40% of the vote, while New York Times headlines proclaimed that Americans were "United in Joy" over this "Victory for US Fair Play."

Ah well, life’s to short to rebut all the other instances you mentioned in their entirety (and I can assure you I could provide just as much, if not more, evidence to involve the US and other Western governments to all the atrocities that were cited). What you should do is use some evidence if you’re going to want to sound the least bit objective. Until then I will treat your argument as mere ideological rhetoric…

Anyway, with that thought in mind, while I hope your preparing some evidence, and in the spirit of being consistent, I’ll me give you a little evidence on one of the countries you claimed was funded by the KGB, Iraq. This information comes from a former US attorney General, Ramsey Clark, and provides a brief but comprehensive outline of the history of Iraq.

Iraq has been a target of U.S. covert actions since at least 1958, when a popular revolution led by Abdel Kassem overthrew the Iraqi monarchy, which was installed by Britain in 1921. In 1960, the new government helped found the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, to resist Western oil monopolies.1
The CIA plotted Kassem's assassination and U.S. generals in Turkey devised a military plan, called "Canonbone," to invade northern Iraq and seize its oil fields.2 In 1963, Kassem and thousands of supporters were massacred in a CIA-backed coup.
In 1968, the Baathist Party came to power. In 1972, it nationalized the U.S./U.K.-owned Iraqi Petroleum Company under the slogan "Arab oil for the Arabs." After a meeting with President Nixon, National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger and the shah of Iran, the CIA urged Kurdish leaders in northern Iraq to rebel against the Iraqi government. The U.S. promised to back them all the way. The House Select Committee on Intelligence Pike Report described it as a "cynical enterprise, even in the context of clandestine operations."3 The Shah funnelled U.S.-supplied arms to the Kurds.4 The Pike Report stated that neither the Shah "nor the President and Kissinger desired victory for [the Kurds]. They hoped the insurgents would [maintain] a level of hostilities to sap the resources of [Iraq]."5
In 1975, Iraq agreed to share the Shatt-al-Arab waterway with Iran. Support for the Kurds was terminated. The fate of Kurds left behind did not concern the U.S. As Kissinger said "Covert operations should not be confused with missionary work."6
In 1979, the Iranian people to overthrew the shah's despotic regime. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski then publicly encouraged Iraq to attack Iran and take back the Shatt-al-Arab waterway.7
In 1980, the U.S. provided Iraq with intelligence reports that Iran would quickly collapse in the face of an Iraqi advance. At the urging of U.S.-backed Arab rulers in Kuwait, Egypt and elsewhere, Saddam Hussein unleashed a war with Iran in which hundreds of thousands died.8
The attack served U.S. interests by weakening Iran, where U.S. embassy personnel were still kept hostage. The U.S. did not want either side to win. "We wanted to avoid victory by both sides," a Reagan official told the New York Times.9 Kissinger was more blunt: "I hope they kill each other" and "too bad they both can't lose."10
Iraq could not have sustained the eight year war without massive assistance, direct and indirect, from the U.S.S.R., Eastern bloc countries, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, the U.S., U.K., France, and West Germany. The Pentagon and CIA provided Iraq with satellite and AWACS intelligence on Iranian forces.11 The U.S. sent CIA and Special Forces to train Iraqi commandos and the U.S. helped funnel billions of dollars worth of arms to Iraq.12
Egypt, a major recipient of U.S. military aid, sent troops, tanks and heavy artillery to Iraq.13 In 1980, the military dictatorship in Turkey - a major recipient of U.S. military aid - sent troops to fight rebels in Iraqi Kurdistan, freeing Iraq's army to concentrate on fighting Iran.
The U.S.-supported regimes in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia also supported Iraq's war effort. Kuwait's contributed over $30 billion. The U.S. sold over $20 billion worth of arms to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states during this period and allowed Saudi Arabia to transfer large quantities of U.S. arms to Iraq during the war.
In 1984, the U.S. became Iraq's principal trading partner by increasing its purchases of Iraqi oil while encouraging Europe and Japan to do likewise.14 The Reagan administration increased intelligence-sharing with Iraq. Vice President Bush, the State Department and the CIA lobbied for large-scale financing of U.S. exports to Iraq.15 In 1986, the U.S. sent a CIA team to advise the Iraqi military.16
But the U.S. was supporting both sides. In 1983, U.S. and Turkish generals were preparing to re-implement the 1958 "Cannonbone" plan.17 Until 1986, the U.S. funnelled arms to Iran through Oliver North, Israel and Pakistan.18 In 1985, Oliver North told Iranian officials that the U.S. would try to engineer the overthrow of Hussein.19
In 1987, the U.S. became directly involved in the war on Iraq's side by protecting the passage of Kuwaiti tankers with a major military presence in the Persian Gulf. Some U.S.-escorted, Kuwait tankers carried Iraqi oil while Iraqi planes attacked Iranian tankers. The U.S. sank Iranian patrol ships and destroyed their oil platforms.
In 1987, Army General Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr. became commander of the U.S. Central Command. He had a unique background for the assignment.20 In the 1953, his father assisted in the CIA's coup in Iran.
When the Iran-Iraq War ended in 1988, U.S. war contingency plans made Iraq the enemy.21 In January 1990, CIA Director William Webster testified to the Senate Armed Services Committee on growing Western dependency on Middle East oil.22 In February, Schwarzkopf told the committee that the U.S. should increase its military presence in the region and described new intervention plans.23 In 1990, the U.S. conducted at least four war games directed at Iraq, some premised on an Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
The U.S. wanted a new war in the Middle East: the Pentagon, to maintain its tremendous budget; arms industries, to feed their Middle East and U.S. military contracts; oil companies, for increased profits; and the Bush administration, which saw the USSR's disintegration as a chance to establish a permanent military presence in the Middle East to control of its oil resources.
The challenge was to force Iraq, a country more interested in rebuilding than expansion, to take action that would justify U.S. military intervention. To create this crisis, the U.S. invoked its special relationship with the Kuwait. In his book Hidden Agenda Behind the Gulf War, Pierre Salinger observed that Kuwait drastically increase oil production one day after the Iran-Iraq ceasefire.
During the Iran-Iraq war, Kuwait seized 900 square miles of Iraq's Rumaila oil field. Using U.S. drilling technology, Kuwait was also stealing oil that was indisputably inside Iraq. When Iraqi troops amassed on the border, Hussein summoned U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie to his office to clarify the U.S. position. Glaspie assured him: "We have no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. [Secretary of State] James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction."24

Footnotes:
1. Middle East Economic Survey, May 12, 1961.
2. New Statesman, July 15, 1983.
3. Gerard Chaliand and Ismet Seriff Vanly, People Without A Country, 1980, 184.
4. Will Safire, New York Times, Feb.12, 1976.
5. See Chaliand and Vanly.
6. See Chaliand and Vanly
7. Christopher Hitchens, Harper's Magazine, Jan.1991, 70.
8. Dilip Hiro, The Longest War, 1991.
9. S. Hersh, New York Times, Jan.26, 1992, 1.
10. Shahram Chubinl and Charles Trip, Iran and Iraq at War, 1988, 207.
11. The Christic Institute, "Covert Operations, the Persian Gulf War and the New World Order."
12. The Economist, May 6, 1982.
13. Francis Boyle, "International Crisis and Neutrality: U.S. Foreign Policy Toward the Iraq-Iran War," in Neutrality: Changing Concepts and Practices, 1986.
14. Leslie Gelb, "Bush's Iraqi Blunder," New York Times, May 4, 1992
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20. Kermit Roosevelt, Countercoup: The Struggle for Control of Iran, 1979.
21. William Webster, Senate Cttee. on Armed Services, Jan.23, 1990, 60.
22. Norman Schwarzkopf, Senate Cttee. on Armed Services, Feb.8, 1990, 577-579.
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24. Stewart M. Powell, San Fransisco Examiner, Sept. 24, 1990, A12.

Of course this was the fault of the KGB wasn’t it???

Here are some sources I have used and copied from:

http://deoxy.org/wc/warcrime.htm
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Chomsky/ChomOdon_Nicaragua.html

For the record my article was written as a response to Jippo's post just in case anyone thought it was written to anyone else.

Way to say it, Frank! I hate Michael Moore because the big fat bastard makes big bucks off of tradegy and loss of life. How sick and twisted this fat pig is. Can't he come up with something esle instead of lies and using tradegy to make money. I could make a movie about tradegy as anyone can. But it's unfair to those who have lost their lives. Doesn't take any smarts to do it. Shows how intelligent the fat bastard is.

to Bill, you have way to much time on your hands. And to Sue Buer Jezz who would have thought that someone would make money of the loss of life. We should take this to the man in charge. (wait it was is idea in the first place)

Michael Moore is nothing moore than a fat anti-american retard with eyes. A lobster makes much more educated conversation. He is the typical liberal hypocrite. Hollywood should be bulldozed for their anti-u.s. hatespeak. Fuck Hollywood, Fuck Europe, and their bitch Michael Moore. Their socialist assholes who deserve no special treatment.

I must agree that michael moore is completely repulsive, not only in the way he looks but also with his crazy UNPROVEN thoeries and lies that he rambles on about. Hollywood loves him (not all of them), but does that surprise anyone??? HHHEEELLLOOO...they do not live in the same world as us, they have their own little world...its called fantasy land! As far as I am concerned...michael moore....France loves you...they think you are the best...you are their hero....please please...go to them...and take all of your American hating hollywood supporters with you! We don't want you! Hurry...please go before you have a heart attack from one too many BigMacs!! P.S. Tell that son-of-bitch child rapist director of the pianist Roman Pulanski, to come back to America so we can throw his pathetic ass in jail!

For people that think MM is doing a service to America, you are the biggest bunch of stupid cock sucking mother fuckers around. PLus, your ignorant to think he doesn't lie

Anyone who backs what that fat piece of shit Michael Moore says and does is an idiot as well as Un-American..fucking assholes

What would the arrest photo of Mikey look like? Thin and clean shaven? Its cheap to pick on someone because the look like the homeless child of Saquatch and the Michelan Man, especially when there are so many points of substance to whack. But its to much fun... well..gotta go take a Micheal Moore and wipe my Gore...

Ahhh... other people who hate that "THING" as much as I do.

One day I too would like to have money, live in Hollywood and act like I'm God... oh wait that is 85% of the population of Actors/actresses who live in this country. They are just one big pot of idiots who think they are f#$$#*@ royalty. I wish they would all collectively by a country together and let Michael Moore be there President or King or whatever he would want to be called.

I just love the fact that we live in a country where you can get away with hating everything about it. I am from Texas and whenever I say they don't like it here or act like they don't I tell them to get the fuck out of here. If Michael Moore's fat ass hates it here then I wish he would just leave and take all of his left wing weirdo liberal supporters with him. It's sad to know people who love this country die every day so assholes like Moore can have the right to do what he does.

Thank Yall for letting me rant.

Michael Moore does not hate this country, he loves, even more than you and me. He wants the corpurations to give fair tretment to the workers, and for the goverment not to lie to the people. He is a fighter for the every man and you should respect the man for having the stones to disagree with the "majority"

I barely understand politics, politicians, social rules and so, but as far as this Moore thing gets, I wonder: has it ever happened to Mr Moore to leave US? Would he be able to express himself, publish and spread abroad his speech anywhere else but America?

Michael Moore is the most self-deluded fool I've ever had the displeasure of knowing about. I'm so sick of well-meaning white liberal snobs thinking they know what is best for us poor dark-skinned people who need stupid crap like affirmative action, etc.. The Kennedy myth is still alive and well in the black community!
I just read Hitchen's critique of Fahrenheit 911 - no one can say it better and it isn't often that I agree with someone who is so far to the left. I also loved his book "No One Left to Lie To" about the Clintons. I feel as though I should do more though. This forum is great but how am I to educate the rest of my bretheren who are so taken with the liberal left? I can't tell you how disgusted I am when I see stiff white people like Al Gore saunter down to south central LA to pretend they have rhythm at a black baptist church! That's all those folks need to feel that they are loved by the new "Massa". Of course, I don't consider south central LA a hotbed of intellectual activity (now I'm the snob - but it is so true!) Getting black folks to vote for liberal democrats is like shooting fish in a barrel - it sickens me! So, I have some great T-shirts that I wear that make people stop and wonder and realize that not all of us are such liberal lemmings. I've been a Republican for over 20 years now. Pray for the Bush man this fall. I think it is no coincidence that the 911 commission, Mike's film of lies, and Clinton's book have all come out in this election year. We also have to worry about the equally insane, but less ugly, Mr. Suros. We've got a lot of work to do.......

Hey Mr. or Ms. european (comment posted may 24, 2004)-

You only think Americans are hillbillies because you are so stupid. If we are such hicks, as you say, isn't it funny how we kick ass on the rest of the world when it comes to Nobel Peace Prizes for:

Peace
Economics
Medicine/Physiology
Physics
Chemistry

source: The Economist - World in Figures

We also lead the world in the development of the intellectual property that probably provides you and the rest of your smelly, hairy european ilk with a way to make a living. And even if you were right about us being stupid - you should be very, very afraid of us nonetheless. Anyone who isn't is REALLY stupid. I work in Defense - I know what's coming! If, and that's a big IF, you can find your ass with both hands - hold on to it!!!

I want to kidnapp the fat bastard and pay for his flight to Iraq, then drop the sack-0f-lying-shit into Al Qaida's den and pull up a chair as they hack his ugly mug off. death to the Stupid White Moron Moore Man. What a cowardly piece of shit you are, fuck you commie!!!

Before I start I want to say that you are a funny guy, but that doesn't make up for how irrelevant your rant was. Sure Michael Moore is fat and ugly, everyone knows that, but you didn't actually say why you disagreed with his views. Anyone can go online and rant about how ugly someone is but you didn't actually give any reasons why you don't like Moore. I'm not a huge Moore supporter, but you have to acknowledge that he is a good film maker, and he raised a few interesting criticisms about Bush. If you really want to get at Moore, try making some credible points instead ranting about the obvious with no grounds to back it up...dumbass

micheal moore what a great man! if you live on welfare have 12 kids and do not like to work and collect my hard earned tax money. he is the type of person that supports that shit. just like any other demacrate! peices of shit that like to give hand outs!! we owe them. we dont owe the shit!! white, black, yellow, blue, purple, what ever get a fucking job if all the people on welfare that do not deserve it would get off of it and get a real job our wonderful country would not be in even moore dept.

For the best response to Michael Moore's film of lies and half-truths, read the critique written by a true lefty himself - Christopher Hitchens:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

Paul - you were right about the ranting but I agree with the sentiments and can only strike back at the foolish white liberals by voting for my man, President Bush!! I have never been impressed by Moore's films since "Roger and Me". He is nothing "moore" than a snake oil salesman with a camera.

Micheal Moore...the words make my blood boil. Not one word that he says has a logical explanation behind it. Check out the fox news report of him and o'reilly. o'Reilly was throwing all the facts in his face and he just kept repeating the same bull shit over and over. He kept saying how he wouldn't send his kid over to Iraq, well that's because he is a useless piece of lard that can't do anything except for sit on his fat ass and come up with left winged propaganda to try to discourage everyone from voting for President Bush in the 2004 election, because he is a liberal extremist and thinks everyone else should be also. Micheal Moore needs to sit down read some history books and then preach to the nation about how President Bush did the right thing invading Iraq and getting rid of Saddam Hussein, a hideous dictator who killed his own people for many many years. Oh, and calling President Bush a liar because he said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction is ridiculous. The CIA, MI 6 and the Russian Intelligence Agency all told President Bush that it was a sure thing that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. So, he did not lie, he was misinformed. The CIA admits to messing up so how can he still accuse President Bush of lieing? If you were president and your nation along with at least two other nations told you a country was a threat and they had weapons of mass destruction what would you do? Sit there and wait to see if we got nuked, or do something about the threat? I don't know about you but I would protect my country and do something about the threat and I hope you would too. I HATE MICHEAL MOORE!!!

I'm from Austin, Texas and I'm one of the five republicans there. For a while I feared that the entire world was leaning left...it's good to know there are others out there to help balance it out.

Michael Moore is such a smug asshole. I saw him on Bill Maher's HBO talk show, it literally made me want to fly down there and slap him. I dont like his lies, and the arrogance of his attitude. Is he that insane to believe that EVERY single bad thing to happen to us is due to the Bush administration. Give me a break, like John Kerry wont be flawed. Maybe George Bush represents the Right Wing Christian Republican but as for CONSPIRING with the freakin' Saudis for oil money is absurd. I think if anyone with a brain thought that was true by now, Bush woouldn't be in office. I agree with Erin Iraq was no minor threat, the war will have to be looked at with some historical perspective and the outcome of an successfully independent Iraq could change public opinion....Michael Moore is an exploitative man, who takes advantage of grieving parents whose children died in Iraq, and who takes advantage of 9/11 to profit so he can live in his penthouse apartment in NYC. He's no comrade like you think he is people, he's just like those "greedy capitalists" pigs he loves to bash...And as for Bowling for Columbine that was another disgusting attempt to bash America. F U Michael Moore!!

you ignorant little cunt. i realised a long time ago how stupid you americans are. its proven.

A new word has been coined to describe michael moron: "FUGLY". This word describes someone who is ugly on the outside and just as ugly inside. Just plain f-----g ugly.

A new word has been coined to describe michael moron: "FUGLY". This word describes someone who is ugly on the outside and just as ugly inside. Just plain f-----g ugly.

I think I finally realize what Moore's Farenheit movie was all about - it was supposed to be Moore's audition tape to be Saddam's new Iraqi Information Minister! The only problem is that one only has to be a BAD liar to be Saddam's Information minister. Mr. Moore is way over-qualified - he's an excellent liar!!

If we want to make progress against terrorism, the Wahhabis must be destroyed and the House of Saud must fall. It's only a matter of time for the latter. There are 30,000 people in the royal family and they don't have very much wealth any more. Members of the Saudi family routinely steal assets from everyday Saudi's because there isn't enough cashish to satisfy their cravings for wealth and power. The USA has been far less intrusive than the British have been when cementing business/political relationships with the leaders of middle eastern countries. That is why the Americans were chosen by the house of Saud immediately after WWII to develop their oil fields. We were not interested in interfering in the development/politics, such as they were, of that country. The Saudi King was trying very hard to gather all the tribes together to create what is "modern" Saudi Arabia today. Unfortunately, the greed of the Saudi royal family has prevented them from developing the necessary infrastructure for the people in that country to compete in the world marketplace. Two thirds of all the PhDs earned by scholars in Saudi Arabia are for Islamic studies. There are very few real jobs for the people. The Saudi's prefer to "import" workers from overseas to do just about everything else. If Bush was conspiring with them as that idiot Moore implies in his ridiculous movie, then why did we close our largest military base there? Remember Giuliani giving the Saudi prince the check back right after 9/11?
As for the Carlyle Group, so what!! It's funny that fugly Moore didn't mention the other private investment groups such as Aspen, etc. Does anyone remember the millions that Hillary made from a $10,000 investment in cattle futures? What about that lying sack of sh*t Terry McAuliffe? He made $18,000,000 from a $100K investment in Global Crossing which went bankrupt quickly thereafter. To be fair, Bush #1 made a lot of cashish from Global as well. Moore's selective portrayal of events in the 9/11 movie will go down in history as one of the worst acts of betrayal, deceit, and treason against the American people. I bet he'll have to be cremated or buried in a secret location when he dies to keep people from urinating (or worse)on his grave.

The worst thing we could do now is to elect Kerry for president. He is morally impotent and nothing more than a calculating opportunist and gigolo extraordinaire! I do respect him for his service in Nam but I don't like his embellishment of the events. I work with Vietnam Vets who suffered through much more hardship in Nam and didn't get any Purple Hearts for their losses. I mean, come on, a purple heart for a scratch? Besides, Kerry's political record is much more important because it shows how wrong and stupid he has really been over his pathetic 20 year career in the senate. I am personally ashamed of my Black brothers and Sisters who wallow in ignorance about the crafty liberals of today. The present-day liberal democrats are successfully riding on the coat tails of the actions of one man - Bobby Kennedy - who actually did have a heart and helped advance the cause of racial equality and civil rights. JFK helped too but he did so reluctantly. This on-going loyalty to a party who has only used Blacks to get votes is starting to come to an end. Listening to that thug Al Sharpton talk about the "blood of martyrs" was sickening. The next thing you know, the democrats will exhume JFK's body and parade him around like El Cid just to remind us all of the Camelot years and the changes to American society that followed afterwards. The liberals are playing a very dangerous game this time around. They are being led by very rich, would-be dictators like Mr. Soros. I detest the condescending attitude of the ultra liberal, ultra-rich democrats who believe they know what's good for all of us poor, unclean masses. I can only imagine the havoc they'll wreak if Bush wins.

Yes it is I and I have to say this was not the vision we had for america. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. I was for the greater good of man but all of you are for yourselves. Stop your bickiring and live in peace.

I think the Jesus Christ of September 4, 2004 is a fake. I think he would want us to stop the slaughter of 30,000 people in Iraq, but what do I know?

You know nothing! For I know who you are and I know what you do late at night when you think you are along! You Will burn in Hell siner! Along with Jhon Wayne, Sadam Hussaine and Donal Rumsfeld1

fu? You arent smart most ppl tend to leave out angry remarks when showing how ingnorant someone really is. Dont worry it will come to you one day!

See thats an example of leaving angry remarks out of a deflating comment '_^

Yea, i hate michael moore so bad. I am sick of arguing with these arogant, deny-the-facts democrat leftist hippys, lets declare WAR!!!

LETS GET EM!!!!!!!!!

Hey, I remember when Moore said that the state was forcing single mothers to go to work implying how bad that was... hell they should go to work, why should I pay for their poor choices and fact be known they weren't being forced - they could quit at any time although with a loss of other handouts. Moore is such a dam liberal... he has no concept of individual responsibilty!

Aww, Mr. Bush won AGAIN!! poor mister moore is going to have to live in a country with George Bush as leader again...let's all feel sorry for him! Why does he stay here in the US if he hates its values, doctrines, and tradition???? If our values and way of life are so "wrong" and need to be so drastically changed, how did we get to be the greatest country in the world's history in the first place? MM should move to France or Canada, but he won't because our military, that he spits on, is the only one in the world that will fight to protect even this pig's freedom of speech. (oh wait...French Army??? what an oxymoron!!) But I guess that means other countries would have to welcome that corpulent ass. I hope that everyone reading this will understand this...the main reason Michael Moore says and does what he does, is because he thinks he deserves the attention. HOW ARROGANT! The country where MM gets the most attention (which he wants more than ANYTHING!)and the most money is the one that in his uneducated opinion is totally wrong, totally stupid and needs to change in every way. I hope you take the overwhelming majority of winning republicans as a clue that the majority of Americans want you to shut the hell up, mister moore!

Hahahahahahaha!!!! Michael Moore is such an idiot!!! He actually HELPED George Bush get re-elected. He's probably crying into a big bowl of Cool-Whip now. Let the spinning of this election begin. What will Mr. Man-Boobs do now?? I think he mentioned something about impeachment. Moore is so stupid! If he starts up with the impeachment thing he'll drive even more people to the Republican side. I'm soooo happy that President Bush was re-elected and all of Moore's efforts, along with those of the would-be socialist dictator George Soros, failed miserably.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! If the democrats want to win next time, they'd better disassociate themselves from Mr. Moore - he's the proverbial boat anchor from Hell!

Jesus here, um, I just want to say you people really need to read the bible. If you look at it I was always helping the less fortunant. Maybe you should look into that.

Nice site.

Nice site.

Nice site.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,can I really unload with you about Michael Moore and the Hollywood types. I am just a former Marine with alot on his mind about our changed country and I would like to vent. Really vent. I can't stand that fat,unshaven,unshowered,oprah foot slave,enemy sympathizer,anti-Jesus,anti-American,reverse racist,liberal satanist,sonofabitch.

i don't know about the before comment. MM may be most of those things, but i Know he's not anti-me.

the idiots who follow chomsky?

you're talking about the most important intellectual alive.

hmmm i guess following bush makes you intelligent.

ROTFLMAO

the word IGNORANCE is given it's true meaning here on this web site .
I hope for the good of all , that you look to yourselves and find the TRUTH .
P.S
i do not mean to offend with the word ignorance . It's more the word within the word I would like you to take note of . And that is IGNORE .Don't ignore your 'self' and start to put yourself in the picture .