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November 21, 2003
My Excuses for Not Being Funny
I know I said I wasn't able to write anything funny today, but I decided I owe you, my readers, more of an explanation. TOP TEN REASONS I DIDN'T HAVE A FUNNY POST TODAY 10. I was too busy with other projects to put the proper time behind a post (those videogames don't play themselves). 9. I'm now a militant feminist and no longer find anything funny. 8. I was going to write a post about how stupid dirty, smelly hippies are, but then I got worried I might hurt the feelings of a stupid, dirty, smelly hippy. 7. I realized that politics is a serious topic, and should never be made light of. 6. A pink cardboard tank convinced me the war was wrong. 5. I'm too sad to write humor since Glenn Reynolds blended my puppy. 4. I got an obscenity and grammatical error filled hate mail that really made me rethink my positions. 3. A monkey done bit me! 2. I thought humorous posts would distract from my t-shirt sales. BTW, buy my t-shirt! And the number one reason I didn't have a funny post today... Because I know you'll visit anyway! Bwa ha ha ha! 28 Responses To "My Excuses for Not Being Funny"
Wow, usually in order to become super rich and famous you have to *appreciate* your clientele lol. Now write something damnit, or I'll sick my rhesus on you! MuAHAHHAHahahah #1 - Posted by: fat kid on November 21, 2003 12:31 PMhttp://www.theboywhocriediraq.com Real muckadoo, commments can be sent by email, but not posted on the site :( #2 - Posted by: John on November 21, 2003 12:41 PMhttp://www.theboywhocriediraq.com Real muckadoo, commments can be sent by email, but not posted on the site :( #3 - Posted by: John on November 21, 2003 12:41 PM9. I'm now a militant feminist and no longer find anything funny. Money line. LMAO. George The part that ticks me off is this is the funniest thing Frank has written this week. Man, I have to learn to not be so funny! #5 - Posted by: Don W. on November 21, 2003 01:04 PMWhat gets me is that he's right; I will visit anyway. #6 - Posted by: aelfheld on November 21, 2003 01:17 PMVeni, Vidi, Bitchi. I came, I saw, I bitched about this post. #7 - Posted by: me on November 21, 2003 03:05 PMWhy do I still come here? Old habits die hard, I guess. #8 - Posted by: Jennifer on November 21, 2003 03:14 PMI used to visit the puppy-blender first each morning but now I visit here and was despondent until I saw this post. Thank you Frank J. my weekend is now made. Now if LSU can beat the monkey dung out of Ole Miss Saturday I'll really be happy. #9 - Posted by: roux on November 21, 2003 03:29 PMWell since Frank has gone all serious I guess I'll have to put in a serious quote, I really liked that pink tank. If I'da known that Mary Kay was handing out pink tanks instead of pink cadillacs, I'd have been out selling the shit out of makeup! #11 - Posted by: SwampWoman on November 21, 2003 08:26 PMYou suck. I hate you. I'll never read you again, at least until tomorrow! #13 - Posted by: Dean Esmay on November 22, 2003 01:05 PM“Be careful!” That was the exclamation-point warning French Président Jacques Chirac sent to "my Unitedstatish friends" in a March 16 interview on CNN, just before the Pentagon began its invasion of Iraq. "Think twice before you do something which is not necessary and may be very dangerous", Chirac advised. And this was not some last-minute heads-up, but the culmination of a full-brief argument that the French advanced against the perils of a US-led intervention, pressed over months at the United Nations in New York and at meetings in Paris, Prague, and Washington. There were, of course, other war critics in Europe and elsewhere, but nobody presented the arguments more insistently or comprehensively than did the French, God bless 'em. But the Unitedstatish, or at least the Bush administration, paid no heed to the French warnings, which were not simply that war was a bad idea, but that an invasion's consequences could be harmful to Western interests and to the larger war on terror. And now the administration is finding itself in an increasingly unhappy situation in Iraq, with its 130.000-strong contingent there the target of a sophisticated and lethal guerrilla campaign waged by foreign Islamic fighters and Saddam Hussein loyalists. Back home, a majority of the Unitedstatish public is opposed to Congress's backing of the president's request for $ 87 billion for military and reconstruction needs in Iraq and Afghanistan. Meanwhile, the White House strains to explain the failure, so far, to find weapons of mass destruction, whose supposed presence in the country, after all, was a prime rationale for the war. Even avid war proponents concede that the United States is in for "a long, hard slog" in Iraq, as Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld wrote in a recently leaked memo. The USA, in short, is at risk of getting trapped in a hell of its own making. Leave it to a philosopher on the Seine to anticipate this sort of predicament. The Left Bank existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre called his 1944 play, on the suffering that human beings tend to visit on themselves, No Exit. In blame-game Washington, critics are asking how the administration got into this mess, and why its forecasts of the war's aftermath were so mistaken. But perhaps the most helpful question is not "Why the Administration Was Wrong," but rather, "How the French Managed to Get It Right." To ask how the Bush camp got off-track is to pose a car-wreck type of question, and all such inquiries tend to be disfigured by partisan, factional enmity. But to ask why the French were right is to put the matter in a more positive, constructive vein. And the question has a ripe urgency, worth pursuing not as a matter of assigning historical bragging rights but as an aid to a necessary rethinking of the Iraq campaign that the administration, albeit in a fitful, truculent mood, has in any event already begun, with its recent plea for help from the United Nations and other countries, France included, and its stepped-up efforts to put more Iraqis in charge of security. Hold on. Were the French really right? After all, Iraq is not a finished matter. What looks like a mess today may yet get sorted out. Most supporters of the war continue to believe it was justified, despite the problems it has caused. Nevertheless, at this juncture, it is plain that the French, and in particular Chirac and his advisers, had a certain analytical purchase on the situation that the Bush administration lacked. The French made three basic claims -- all countered, in varying degrees of intensity, by the administration. The first was that the threat posed by Saddam was not imminent, and that's borne out by all available evidence, not least the latest report by Bush-appointed arms inspector David Kay, in which he stated that no weapons of mass destruction had been found. The second claim was that democracy-building in Iraq was going to be a lengthy, difficult, bloody process -- with the Iraqi population very likely to view the Unitedstatish as occupiers, not liberators. Quite apart from the spate of attacks on US soldiers by various fanatics, this claim is borne out by polls showing that a majority of Iraqis would like the United States to leave. And third, the French correctly predicted that the Muslim world would perceive a US-led intervention lacking the explicit blessing of the United Nations as illegitimate -- and thus would incite even greater anger toward the USA. Still seething over the French pre-war position on Iraq, administration officials are hardly of a mind to bestow awards on the French for prescience. The Democrats, many of whom supported the war, would have no political gain in citing the unpopular French as role models for their thinking, even if the statements now made by the party's leaders in Congress and its presidential candidates so closely resemble pre-war French comments. ("The war was an unnecessary war", retired Gen. Wesley Clark pronounced, à la Chirac, on 9 October.) As for the administration, even Secretary of State Colin Powell, a relative moderate, still gets huffy at the mention of the French. "We were right, they were wrong, and I am here", a Powell aide, in an interview with The New York Times, quoted his boss as saying at a September meeting with Iraqi officials in Baghdad. US media presentations of the French arguments have been on a similar plane. The "cheese-eatin'" tag (would that be brie or roquefort?) derives from an eight-year-old episode of the animated television show The Simpsons, in which a reluctant teacher of French greets his elementary-school charges with the rousing salutation "Bonjour, ye cheese-eatin' surrender monkeys!" It fell to a pop-culturally informed conservative polemicist, National Review scribe Jonah Goldberg, to revive and popularise the insult in the pre-war name-calling. The New York Post is still calling the French "weasels". So the answer to the question of why the French were right has to begin with an admission that their intransigence cannot be dismissed as a knee-jerk impulse or narrowly self-interested plank. Au contraire. What divided the two longtime allies -- each of which has been a beacon for liberal Western values over the past two centuries -- was a deep analytical chasm. An understanding of how the French got to the place they got to and stubbornly clung to, even as relations with Washington badly deteriorated, requires a probe of the substance and roots of the French position. That may not sound like much fun. Even though they deny it, the French are already gloating that their much-maligned pre-war forecast has proved to be on target. But here's the good news -- and it really is very good news. One big reason the French were right is that they were thinking along the lines that Unitedstatish are generally apt to think -- that is, in a cautious, pragmatic way, informed by their own particular trial-and-error experience, in this case as an occupier forced out of Algeria and as a front-line battler, long before 11 September, against global Islamic terrorist groups. The Bush administration, by contrast, approached Iraq the way the French are often thought to approach large world problems -- with a grandiose sweep of the theoretical hand, a tack exemplified by the big-ideas neoconservative crowd, whose own thinking, ironically, draws on European political philosophy. So as the administration rethinks Iraq, the way back to a sound position may lie at home, in the great but neglected tradition of unitedstatish pragmatism. And then everyone can forget about the French. The prism: Algeria. A pragmatic approach starts with memory -- with the ability to distil lessons from analogous past experiences. That can be a tricky business. Unitedstatish critics of the war, particularly those on the left, cited Vietnam as a cautionary parallel. Perhaps that is apt, since the Vietnam conflict did involve a clash of civilisations, and the US never fully understood the alien social and political milieu in which its forces were operating. But Vietnam is not a Muslim or Middle Eastern country, and it was a Cold War theatre, in which both the Soviet Union and China assisted anti-US guerrilla bands. There is only one Western country with an intimate, bloody, and recent experience of what it is like to be an occupying power in an Arab land, facing an Islamic insurgency. That country is France, which granted independence to Algeria in 1962 after failing to subdue an eight-year-long rebellion by cold-blooded assassins who didn't blanch at bombing Algiers night-clubs frequented by French teenagers. The memory remains etched into the French political consciousness. No event since the Second World War is a heavier or more painful burden for France than is the Algerian uprising. Algeria, on the southern shore of the Mediterranean sea, had a much closer connection to France than Vietnam ever did to the United States. During the 132 years of French rule, starting in the 1830s, Algeria was, in legal, constitutional terms, an annexed section of France, not a colony. The Algerian uprising, with its demand for independence, destroyed the fourth French Republic by precipitating a coup attempt by the French military against civilian political leaders viewed as feckless. It also established itself as the central prism through which the French political elite came to view the Muslim world in general and the forces of Arab nationalism and Islamic militancy in particular. And even more than that, Algeria forced France to re-examine its political, economic, and cultural relations with the entire non-Western portion of humanity. Algeria contained the lesson of a classic "failure" the British historian Alistair Horne wrote in A Savage War of Peace, his definitive 1977 account of the conflict; he called it "the failure either to meet, or even comprehend, the aspirations of the Third World". According to an old friend and adviser, Algeria principally taught Chirac that occupation, even under the best of intentions, is impossible when popular sentiments have turned against the occupier: "His experience is that despite all the goodwill, when you are an occupier, when you are seen [by the local people] as an occupier, the people will want you to get out". And if Chirac was convinced of anything, according to this source, it was that the Unitedstatish would ultimately be viewed not as liberators in Iraq but as occupiers. He foresaw a kind of re-enactment of the Algerian tragedy, the source adds, a "vicious circle" in which increasingly violent acts against the occupier are met with an increasingly harsh response -- a cycle that inevitably sours local people against the occupation. As the French side tells it, this perspective was at the heart of a disagreement between Chirac and Bush at a private talk late last November in Prague, where US and European leaders were gathered to discuss enlarging NATO. (Although the pair talked on the telephone, this was their main exchange before the war started six months later.) According to a senior French official who reviewed a French hand-written transcript of the meeting, Chirac talked not about the risks of the major combat phase of a military campaign, which the French expected to go quickly as it did in Algeria, but about the perils of the post-war phase, in particular the dangers of underestimating the force of Arab nationalism and the prevalence of violence in a country that had never known democracy. According to the French source, Bush replied that he expected post-war armed resistance from elements connected to Saddam's Baassist régime -- but thought it unlikely that the population as a whole would come to see the US as occupiers. And Chirac, according to the source, told Bush that history would decide who was right. The White House recently declined to comment on the meeting. Seven months after Saddam's toppling, the struggle for the "hearts and minds" of the Iraqi people goes on. But a survey of Iraqi public opinion, done in August for the Unitedstatish Enterprise Institute by pollster John Zogby, tends to confirm Chirac's instinct. Yes, the poll found that on the whole, Iraqis were very glad to be rid of Saddam; 70 % said they expected Iraq to be "much better" or "somewhat better" in five years. That was the finding the administration and UEI highlighted. But asked whether the USA and the UK should help make sure a representative government is set up in Iraq or just let Iraqis work this out themselves, 60 % responded "Iraqis alone". Asked whether the US over the next five years would help or hurt Iraq, 36 % said "help" and 50 % said "hurt". In an interview on the poll's results, Zogby said: "The results are not good, from the perspective of the Bush administration. Something is not working, and there is plenty of polling evidence to show that something is not working". He continued: "The Unitedstatish misread the situation. They honestly thought the Iraqis were going to be welcoming them" Traumatic experiences can be distorting, but the French fixation on Algeria, if that's what it is, seems appropriate. The uprising was not just a defeat for an ageing, corrupt imperial power. It was also an awakening experience for such coming-of-age insurgents as Yasser Arafat and a forerunner of Islamic militants' decision to use terror to achieve broad political objectives. The conflict introduced the French to the same kind of deadly enemy that US forces now find themselves battling in the streets of Baghdad. Better late than never, the Pentagon in September arranged for senior Special Forces officers a screening of The Battle of Algiers, the 1966 film showing how crack French paratroopers rolled up terrorist cells in the Algerian capital, in one of many France's clear-cut victories in that war. The message is twofold. On the one hand, the parachutistes (paratroopers) forced the FLN to abandon the campaign in the capital. But the insurgency itself was not extinguished -- and eventually, it was the unremitting toll of French casualties and a public backlash in France against the army's harsh tactics against the Algerian population that undermined the French military victory. If an Iraqi version of the Algerian drama were to continue playing out, then the final act would be an abrupt, poorly planned pullout by a politically pressured Washington. Noting the growing domestic outcry over US casualties in Iraq -- which, at 379 killed as of 4 November, are quite small according to the historical standards of armed conflict -- the French believe this may well happen, despite Bush's vow to stay the course until Iraq is stable and democratic. And the result, Paris worries, would be a giant mess on Europe's doorstep. At this stage, "the worst-case scenario for us would be for [the US] to leave" Lévitte said in a recent interview at his Georgetown quarters. "If you want to build democracy in Iraq, you must be prepared to pay a price". Behind this turnaround is a story of how the French learned what works in the struggle against Islamic terrorism. Along with Algeria, this learning experience powerfully shaped the French perspective on the post-11 September world, and it helps explain why the French felt so strongly that Iraq was a secondary priority in the struggle against terrorism. One of the few in Washington who has done a careful parsing of the French experience in counter-terrorism is an unassuming former Rand analyst, Jeremy Shapiro, who these days hangs his hat at the Brookings Institution as a research associate in the think tank's centre on the United States and France. A 1989 Harvard graduate who's fluent in French, Shapiro has cultivated contacts among counter-terrorist experts at law enforcement agencies in both Paris and Washington. For obscure policy journals, he's been writing such pieces as "The US Can Learn From the French in the War Against Terrorism". In an interview at his cramped Brookings quarters, Shapiro right away warmed to the topic. "The French were the first to note that terrorism was a global movement", he said. But before they came to this realisation, they floundered. In the 1980s, a wave of bombings struck Paris targets, including department stores and subways. Not only were the French unable to prevent these attacks, they were also clueless about the perpetrators and motives. At first they thought that domestic neo-Nazi militants were behind an assault on a synagogue in a wealthy section of Paris. Only belatedly did they realise that responsibility lay with terrorists from the Middle East. The French first adopted what Shapiro calls the "sanctuary doctrine" -- an effort to isolate France from international terrorism by taking a neutral stance toward global terrorist groups. The idea was to give the terrorists no reason to attack France. It didn't work. Other countries actively battling terrorism, such as Spain and Israel, were understandably outraged that France was sheltering their enemies. Some splinter terrorist bands failed to recognise France as a "sanctuary" and targeted French interests anyway. And amid the Paris attacks, the French public demanded a get-tough approach. As a result, French counter-terrorism policy evolved to its current emphasis on suppression and prevention. The key to this policy is what Shapiro calls the "Alan Greenspan" choice. In effect, France decided to de-politicise the anti-terrorism battle. "The French treat terrorism like we treat central banking -- as too serious to be left to the politicians", Shapiro says. At the heart of the French system is a group of Paris-based magistrates with sweeping investigative powers of the sort that a John Ashcroft would die for. Through the expertise accumulated over numerous investigations, the magistrates managed to burrow deeply into the roots of global Islamic terrorist networks and thus gain information on attacks even as they were being plotted. The results are impressive -- and have helped protect not just the French but Unitedstatish, too. Shapiro's textbook example is the apprehension of terrorist Ahmed Ressam, who was arrested at the Unitedstatish-Canadian border in December 1999 with a trunk full of explosives he planned to use to attack Los Angeles International Airport. Even though he had few connections to France, French anti-terrorism officials had been tracking Ressam for more than three years and had repeatedly warned Canadian authorities of his plans to attack North American targets. The French provided the FBI with a full dossier on Ressam, helped Unitedstatish officials identify his associates, and sent an expert to testify at Ressam's trial, at which he was convicted. Iraq: a question of legitimacy. Unity, of course, proved short-lived, as the real possibility of a war in Iraq came into focus in the fall of 2002. France's clear priority was a continued focus on Al Qaeda and related networks -- and the pursuit of what they viewed as unfinished business in the campaign against Talibans and other Islamic fighters regrouping in Afghanistan and Pakistan. French citizens were themselves directly under attack – an Al Qaeda bomb had killed 11 French engineers at the Sheraton Hotel in Karachi. "This is the main threat", Lévitte said in a briefing at the European Institute, a Washington think tank, on 29 January. Based on its own knowledge of Al Qaeda and related Islamic networks, the French saw nothing to connect Saddam's régime with Oussama ben Laden and company. In December 2002, French authorities arrested a dozen North African Arabs who had links to Al Qaeda and were plotting to attack targets in Paris. French authorities suspected links between Al Qaeda and Chechen rebels, but not between Al Qaeda and Baghdad, French officials stated publicly at that time. Still, the French did not rule out the use of force in Iraq. Rather, French opposition to a US-initiated strike on Iraq centred on the question of legitimacy. On whose authority, they asked, could military force justifiably be used? This is an old tug-of-war between the two countries, going back to the early days of the Cold War, but Iraq elevated this disagreement to a new level of antagonism. The French reject the idea of Unitedstatish exceptionalism -- a venerable fixture of the US political psyche and staple of presidential speeches. Unitedstatish exceptionalism is the notion that the United States has a unique crusader role to play in advancing freedom in the world, and can accomplish this mission not only because of its immense military power but also because of the compelling example it has set in creating a dynamic, democratic society at home. The French, who after their anti-monarchical revolution in the XVIIIth century staked a similar claim to a liberal, torch-bearing exceptionalism, don't accept any of this. They insist that legitimacy, particularly with respect to the use of force, resides exclusively in the institutions of the "international community," namely the UN Security Council. "I am totally against unilateralism in the modern world" Chirac told The New York Times in a 8 September 2002, interview. To a grated-on US ear, this may sound like nothing more than the usual French rant against the United States as the world's hyperpuissance, or hyperpower. And, of course, the French, in arguing for a decisive role for the UN Security Council, are seeking to preserve an important role for themselves as one of the five permanent, veto-wielding members of that body. Nonetheless, the French have a better practical fix on how the world sees the USA -- and multilateral institutions such as the UN -- than the Unitedstatish themselves have. Unitedstatish exceptionalism works only when foreigners buy into it. If they don't, then the US insistence on having its way truly does amount to bullying. And in this regard, world public opinion, loudly and clearly, seems to be saying, "I'll take the UN. For example, in Iraq itself, while a majority of Iraqis in Zogby's recent poll said they thought the US would "hurt", not "help", Iraq over the next five years, the same question about the U.N. drew an opposite response, with 50 % saying it would "help" Iraq and just 19 % saying "hurt". Polling in the broader Muslim world underscores what, to advocates of Unitedstatish exceptionalism, can only seem contradictory. On the one hand, the US intervention in Iraq significantly inflamed Muslim opinion. A June survey by the Pew Research Centre for the People and the Press found that anti-Unitedstatish attitudes had spread from the Middle East to Islamic countries such as Indonesia, where favourable ratings for the US had plunged from 61 % to 15 % over the course of 12 months. The survey also found that majorities in leading Muslim countries were worried about the US as a potential military threat. Yet the Pew team also found that large majorities in most Islamic countries aspired to Western-style democracy. The Muslim world seems to like the product the US is selling -- but not the salesman. They'd prefer to get the product from another store, and they seem to think the French-advocated UN is that store. All of which, of course, is what the French have been arguing -- at a higher decibel level than anyone else. "The French sometimes say out loud what others are thinking", says Charles William Maynes, president of the Eurasia Foundation in Washington. And this has long driven Washington nuts. Maynes remembers from his days as a Foreign Service officer for the State Department in the 1960s that it was "very difficult to get a rational discussion" within the department about France or India. "I decided that that was because they were democratic countries that had an independent policy and their own view of the world". Pragmatism, anyone? Let's review. The French got it right in Iraq for three basic reasons. First, the French, by virtue of their own experience, had the best of all prisms with which to view the Iraq showdown: Algeria. Second, the French, because of the improvements they had made in their counter-terrorism efforts, were in a position to make their own independent determination of the threat posed by Al Qaeda and related groups versus the threat posed by Saddam's régime. And third, the French possessed good antennae; they had a clear reading of world, and in particular Muslim, public opinion on whether a US-led intervention would be viewed as legitimate. They were better listeners than the Unitedstatish were. In its exasperation with the French, Washington says it is Paris that has become lost in languid abstractions. "It's easy to toss out nice theories about sovereignty, and occupation, and liberation, and all that", Colin Powell complained to reporters on his plane last month after a round of inconclusive talks with the French on an expanded UN role in Iraq. But he's picking on the French for the wrong reason. The Bush camp had run up against Jacques Chirac -- a stubborn 70-year-old man. Not even his friends regard him as a conceptual thinker or grand strategist. He's prone not to airy theorising but to condescension. On the Iraq matter, Chirac revealed his sense of superiority over Bush, a man 14 years his junior who entered the White House without a track record in foreign affairs. (Chirac has a higher estimation of Bush's father, a multilateralist who fought in World War II and headed the CIA before becoming president.) That final "Be careful!" warning was preceded by a vintage -- which is to say, patronising -- Chirac pronouncement: "Personally, I have some experience of international political life". The neocons are not experts on the Middle East. One of their prime intellectual influences is an abstruse political philosopher, Leo Strauss, a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany whose students at the University of Chicago included Paul Wolfowitz, now serving as Bush's deputy secretary of Defence and the administration's leading proponent of using Iraq as a laboratory for democratic nation building in the region. Straussians tend to believe in the ability of intellectual élites -- modern-day philosopher-kings -- to discern truths unavailable to lesser minds. "It's a European style of getting the peasants to do what 'we' say", said James Pinkerton, a critic of the Iraq intervention who worked in the Bush I White House. Even if the USA can't tap a particular memory to deal with the post-11 September world, it does have available to it that old and poignant tradition of Unitedstatish pragmatism. And it is a poignant tradition. Modern Unitedstatish pragmatism, as the Unitedstatish critic Louis Menand tells the story in his Pulitzer-Prize winning book, The Metaphysical Club, was hatched after the Civil War as a kind of antidote to overly ideological and moralistic views of the world. The pragmatists came to their new lights as a result of their own hard, tragic experiences. Of Oliver Wendell Holmes, one of the movement's charter thinkers, Menand writes: "He had gone off to fight because of his moral beliefs, which he held with singular fervour. The war did more than make him lose those beliefs. It made him lose his belief in beliefs. It impressed on his mind, in the most graphic and indelible way, a certain idea about the limits of ideas". Wow, that extremely long-winded speech right there? Plus there's CyborgAssasWhoever, or as I like to call him/her, "Captain Insano", those are both hard acts to follow. I live in a country where freedom is not something the government gives me nor is it something granted to me by family, political party or church. In the country I live in, the whole system of government is based on the belief that freedom is something that you were born with. It comes with a heavy responsibility, though, because along with it there is an implied responsibility to respect the rights of other people, even if they disgust you, even if the very thought of their existence makes your skin crawl. Your right to do your thing stops when you begin interfering with their right to do their thing. And that's really difficult to live with. It's so much easier and simpler to let go of all rational thought and blame Them for your lot in life. It's a lot easier to blame and punish Them than it is to deal with the possibility that your situation being screwed up might just be your fault and nobody else's. And so, Captain Insano, I would like to say this to you and you can take it to the bank: You will reap what you sow, maybe now, maybe at the end of your life, but eventually. However, it's not really my job to warn you about that- my responsibility and my choice as a free citizen is to ignore you even though you disgust me. I can do that in spite of my dislike for you, because I'm stronger than you. #16 - Posted by: S. Wade on November 22, 2003 03:30 PMWhat are teh Nazi's doing here? Don't they know I'm an honary Jew? #17 - Posted by: Frank J. on November 22, 2003 03:33 PMgee Frank, you have any bandwidth left after that? #18 - Posted by: alfredo stroessner on November 22, 2003 11:15 PMOn a more serious not, I like monkeys. Here are some of the reasons why Frank is wrong about our devolved cousins. http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/monkeys.txt #19 - Posted by: ThoreauHD on November 22, 2003 11:42 PMNot me. It said "French" multiple times, so that was a big clue that whoever wrote it was an idiot. #21 - Posted by: SwampWoman on November 23, 2003 02:52 AM... 5,360 words of complete and utter drivel. i've never seen a comment box raped in such a way. #22 - Posted by: rt on November 23, 2003 05:38 AMMore comment box rapage: Type in google: French Military Victories good day. Here's my response to the French speech. It's found in the book, Killer Angels. "He had grown up believing in America and the individual and it was a stronger faith than his faith in God. This was the land where no man had to bow. In this place at last a man could stand up free of the past, free of tradition, and blood ties and the curse of royalty and become what he wished to become. This was the first place on earth where the man mattered more than the state. True freedom had begun here and it would spread eventually over all the earth. But it had begun here. The fact of slavery upon this incredibly beautiful new clean earth was appalling, but more even than that was the horror of old Europe, the curse of nobility, which the South was transplanting to new soil. They were forming a new aristocrac, a new breed of glittering men, and Chamberlain had come to crush it. But he was fighting for the dignity of man and in that way he was fighting for himself. If men were equal in America, all these former Poles and English and Czechs and blacks, then they were equal everywhere, and there was really no such thing as foreigner; there were only free men and slaves. And so it was not even patriotism but a new faith. The Frenchman may fight for France, but the American fights for mankind, for freedom; for the people, not the land." (p. 27) I got about a thousand words into The Comment Box-Abusing Essay when I realized, "After all this time of foolishly promoting bourgeois Western "patriotism", "religion" and "values", this brilliant essay has shown me The True Path. It's the antidote to all my questions and doubts! The True Path is The Path of The Burqa! Our only guide on the Path will be the French. Let go of your simplistic Western beliefs in defending the weak because there ARE no beliefs, there's only an "antidote to overly ideological and moralistic views of the world"! Destroy all of my unnecessary guns! Let the "militant Islamic extremists" fly planes into buildings! Let them bomb Bali nightclubs, Israeli restaurants and Turkish mosques! Get all illegal foreign occupiers out of the Middle East so that men like Saddam Hussein can go back to doing what they like to the women and children of Iraq! It's their culture! How do you know that your beliefs are right? You don't, which means that you have to let them do whatever they want to whoever they want! Don't interfere with their culture. Eventually, they'll stop doing all of that when they see how eager we all are to peacefully co-exist with their version of Islam! I'm an American woman, and I'd like to encourage them in their fight for their beautiful culture against "Democracy" and "Freedom", because I'd really like to encourage the continuation of a chain of events that will almost inevitably lead to my daughter or granddaughter spending her life in a burqa, or prison, if she should happen to smile at a shopkeeper or have a problem with her husband beating their children. Because of this essay, I realize it's time to believe in nothing. I am now empty of all "ideology" and "moral values" and I am at peace with everybody everywhere. I now know that the warm, fuzzy feeling is all that matters and that War=Bad, no matter how much is at stake. And it's all because I adopted the common-sense rules laid out for me by kindly European intellectuals! Thank you, Sophisticated Person-Or-Persons-Who-Wrote-That-Steaming-Pile-of-Brilliance. I fervently hope that those intellectuals can remember all of your excellent and values-free essay when the Soldiers of Wahabbism get to their door, and they will get to your door, because one of these days there might not be armies of American or British soldiers around to save your sorry ass. They'll be off somewhere helping people who won't spit in their faces. #25 - Posted by: S. Wade on November 23, 2003 02:05 PMY'all, I just realized how long my last comment was. I was trying to be brief, but y'know, the moral-relativist intellectuals get me so mad, I got carried away. Dangit. LOL. #26 - Posted by: S. Wade on November 23, 2003 02:09 PMS. Wade, your last comment would be overly long ONLY if you dispensed with punctuation, capital letters, and spaces between words.:) And Frank J., are you setting us up for a gut-bustingly funny "In My World?" #27 - Posted by: Bloodthirsty Warmonger on November 23, 2003 05:10 PMI was going to fisk that long post, but I don't think I have time to do a line-by-line, point-by-point refutation of it right now. May I please be excused? #28 - Posted by: Eric Scheie on November 24, 2003 05:52 PMPost a comment
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