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March 02, 2004
Hell Damn Crap
Posted by Frank J. at 01:39 PM | View blog reactions | Comments (44)

Stuff like this pisses off gun owners, and one of the main rules of gun safety is DON'T PISS OFF PEOPLE WITH GUNS!!!

It's time for the Association of Angry Gun Owners to lobby the president to veto this. He said he'd only sign a clean bill, and he'd better stick to his word. Ain't no one safe when people like me are angry.

UPDATE: The story now says the bill has been killed. While it would be nice to get the legal protection for gun companies, at least the "assault weapon" ban should die quietly now.

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44 Responses To "Hell Damn Crap"

Where can I get a list to see how my beloved much despised Senator, Arlen Specter voted on it.

#1 - Posted by: tom on March 2, 2004 01:42 PM

Hooray for the anrey Guntoading meat-eating people!!!

oh, and I pooped my pants


o.r.

#2 - Posted by: OldRasputin on March 2, 2004 01:42 PM

Hooray for the angry Guntoading meat-eating people!!!

oh, and I pooped my pants


o.r.

#3 - Posted by: OldRasputin on March 2, 2004 01:43 PM

MSNBC just had a 15 second soundbyte of the Haughty french looking ketchup gigolo puttin nails in his own coffin by speaking on the senate floor advocating this f'ing bill.

tom.........senate.gov should have the results.

i am friggin pissed............fukin liberal hippy, spoon in mouth dummocrats...

I'M GOING TO THE RIFLE RANGE WITH A PICTURE OF KERRY AND FIENSTIEN!!!!!KENNEDY WOULD BE TOO EASY TO HIT, HIS HEAD IS FUKIN HUGE.

Cavtrooper

#4 - Posted by: Cavtrooper on March 2, 2004 01:54 PM

aarrrgggg...elected representatives my butt...there were eight or nine so called republicans voting for it. what sickens me even more is all the smiling faces in that picture, "yes! one more step closer to sticking you with nothing but low velocity bolt action .22's!"

#5 - Posted by: on March 2, 2004 02:27 PM

NOOOO!!! Not just a .22! You can hardly feel it when you fire that thing.

#6 - Posted by: Frank J. on March 2, 2004 02:38 PM

The good thing about .22s: You can shoot a looooot of hippies for not very much money. Knowing hippies, it'd probably only take two or three shots to kill them, so, even though less enjoyable, .22s are a lot more economical.

#7 - Posted by: n00b on March 2, 2004 02:48 PM

How many Gun Bills have to be passed before we can go Hippy-Hunting?

#8 - Posted by: SevenTimesDead on March 2, 2004 02:53 PM

We need to make sure that this bill dies now. If the AWB is reauthorized, the bill is useless in my eyes. What started out as protection for gun manufacturers has digressed into a soggy, liberal gun grab.

#9 - Posted by: Marc on March 2, 2004 02:58 PM

take action now, but don't give up. this bill is not the same as the House bill that passed to protect gun makers from liability suits. now it has to go to the House-Senate joint committee to resolve the differences. It is possible the House will kill the amendments and send a clean immunity bill to the President. WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN NOW to oppose this.

#10 - Posted by: dvgulliver on March 2, 2004 03:11 PM

People that vote for republicans get what they deserve.

Third party all the way. The Libertarians won't sell me out to try to get the hippie vote.

#11 - Posted by: Jacob on March 2, 2004 03:31 PM

Don't get worked up just yet. The worse thing you can do is piss off your reps at this point. The main bill (gun maker protection against frivilous lawsuits) passed. Yes, the Senate added bad amendments. Those can be dealt with.

The bill now goes to committee where the Senate amendments can be stripped off. If they are not stripped in the committee, the bill will die in the House. Assuming they are stripped, the bill is an easy pass in the House and then a tougher one in the Senate. We're in good shape still.

The bad amendments were added to try to "poison" the bill; they failed. This is more good news than bad news.

I'll be writing my (Democrat) Senator a thank you. He voted for the passage of the bill and _against_ the AWB rider. Good Senator, frosted donut.

#12 - Posted by: Joe on March 2, 2004 03:32 PM

Jacob,
It's hard for someone to sell you out when they can never get elected.

#13 - Posted by: Frank J. on March 2, 2004 03:35 PM

Jacob, get a clue. A third party vote is how we got the AWB in the first place. Remember Ross Perot? Anyone? Anyone?

Even if you don't like Bush, vote for him anyway. He'll be there for four more years but the judges he appoints will last a good long time. Especially the SCOTUS ones.

Don't chuck your vote. Use it. That is why you have it.

This message was brought to you by the letters GOP and the number 2004

#14 - Posted by: Joe on March 2, 2004 03:36 PM

AHHH!! Why does my frickin' loser senator think I don't have a right to go into my backyard with military style weapons and kill small animals! (in hunting season, of course).

Banning assault weapons, which account for less than a fraction of a percent of crime, is idiotic. With that logic, maybe they should ban Semi tractor trailers too while they're at it, since we all know that Semi's cause massive injuries and deaths every year becasue people drive them to kill others.

#15 - Posted by: Haagus on March 2, 2004 04:06 PM

Joe's right, the main objective, getting the doggone lawsuit nonsense fixed, was the big one. They can fix a lot of the other crap in committee. Just make sure your rep knows how you want them to handle it in committee.

And of course how to stick our opponents with the negatives on the vote!

#16 - Posted by: Dave in Texas on March 2, 2004 04:10 PM

They can have my magnetic projectile launching weapon when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. (Are there laws against rail guns?)
Love beads should always be made of steel and electromagnets should always be hidden in trees.

#17 - Posted by: LibertyBob on March 2, 2004 04:53 PM

I just spent an entire day with very dedicated earnest people from community service organizations dedicated to doing good. I will spend an entire day tomorrow with same. (No, it isn't because I was sentenced to community service, but my *job* required me to attend this seminar...) I think they are all Dean supporters. I am so relieved that I cannot take an eeeeevil assault weapon with me tomorrow. Guess I will have to make do with some shotguns instead.

But bless you, Frank J. Waiting for your next Limey post gives me reason to live beyond tomorrow.

#18 - Posted by: SwampWoman on March 2, 2004 04:56 PM

Tom: Both Specter and Santorum voted AGAINST the Assault Weapons Ban extension.

From what I'm reading, the bill is dead. It looks like the "Poison Pill" strategy worked. After the Democrats (and traitor Republicans) voted to add the "Assault Weapons" Ban to the Lawsuit-Protection bill, Senate Republicans let it die instead of taking the chance that the AWB would be extended 10 more years.

The Senate voted 90-8 on Tuesday to kill a bill that would have protected gunmakers from lawsuits after an amendment was attached that would have extended the 1994 ban on assault rifles.

The move comes a few hours after the Senate voted 52-47 to extend the 1994 assault weapons ban amendment to the liability bill, which is to expire in September.

#19 - Posted by: Xoxotl on March 2, 2004 05:09 PM

The List of Treachery:
Ten Republicans broke party ranks: Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, Susan Collins of Maine, Mike DeWine of Ohio, Peter Fitzgerald of Illinois, Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Richard Lugar of Indiana, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Olympia Snowe of Maine, George Voinovich of Ohio and John Warner of Virginia

The List of Courage:
Six Democrats voted against extending the ban: Max Baucus of Montana, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Zell Miller of Georgia, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Harry Reid of Nevada.

#20 - Posted by: Xoxotl on March 2, 2004 05:12 PM

Am I missing something here?

The CNN site says:

The Senate voted 90-8 on Tuesday to kill a bill that would have protected gunmakers from lawsuits after an amendment was attached that would have extended the 1994 ban on assault rifles.

Considering the idiotic amendments, I would think this is more to the good than not.

#21 - Posted by: aelfheld on March 2, 2004 05:31 PM

Wow, I thought they were going to strip it in committee. The NRA called and Craig shot it in the head. Maybe he used an "evil scary looking AW."

The AWB is dead. Dead. Dead. Dead. Bush has said he would sign one. He has signaled to the House that he doesn't want to see it. He has an election due and doesn't want the issue. I expected the House to do the dirty work but the Senate did it. Awesome.

What is with California? Electing Limey Senators. That's just sad.

Write your Senators and let them know how you feel. Be polite. I'm writing mine a nice thank you letter (he is a Dem and crossed over to the good side). Maybe I'll send chocolates. Tee hee.

#22 - Posted by: Joe on March 2, 2004 06:26 PM

This just goes to show that the Liberals are the obedient lapdogs of the Trial Lawyers. Ugh.

Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, who sponsored the assault weapons amendment, said, "The legislation has the support of 77 percent of the American people and 66 percent of gun owners.

Apparently, Dianne must have been diagnosed with Glaucoma, because she must be on some serious drugs to actually believe that.

#23 - Posted by: Xoxotl on March 2, 2004 06:38 PM

YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY

Unfortunately, a great bill, the liability issue, is dead, but we do NOT want the parasite that is the AW ban. this day in the senate is was a Draw, but we will WIN in the end.

cavtrooper

#24 - Posted by: Cavtrooper on March 2, 2004 06:45 PM

BTW, my new .45ACP H&K USP TACTICAL IS F'ING SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!! I PERFORATED DIANNE'S PICTURE (note to liberals: That is NOT a threat) from 25 yds. I used my KIMBER CUSTOM TLE II for Kerry (once again: Not a threat). God Bless John Browning, May he Rest in Peace.

cavtrooper

#25 - Posted by: Cavtrooper on March 2, 2004 06:49 PM

I have both Feinstein and Boxer. I'm so blessed. [vomit]

Here's the thing, though: Shouldn't a bill be about ONE issue? I mean, what good does it do that the opposition party can tack on all sorts of unrelated BS to a bill? Shouldn't a bill have to stand by itself?

I hate politics. But I hate politicians more.

#26 - Posted by: Curtis the Former Marine on March 2, 2004 07:16 PM

Stupid Fecking Limeys! Check this out. This is what the BBC reported:
http://216.170.205.242/bbc.png
until they were pulled up short. Then they put this up:
http://216.170.205.242/bbc2.png
without any notice.

Stupid Fecking Limeys.

#27 - Posted by: Joe on March 2, 2004 07:32 PM

Grrrr.... Feinstein and Boxer....

I vote for other people than those two.. but they're hard to kick out...

One of these days we might actually get a Conservative-like-person in office (dreaming) *sigh* at least I've got a good Rep in there, fighting the good fight... Ed Royce, he's a proper Republican, even for a Californian!

#28 - Posted by: eldarblood on March 2, 2004 10:12 PM

While the legal protection would have been nice, it'd be better if we actually had judges intelligent to throw cases like those out.

#29 - Posted by: david on March 2, 2004 10:37 PM

When the AWB ends, I'm gonna buy a 200 round clip for my MAK-90 Sporter. Then, I'm going to hipshot the entire damn thing into a cardboard stand-up of Clinton. Then again, that might be a bad idea. I could become so happy I'd wet myself in glee.

#30 - Posted by: Nikolai on March 2, 2004 10:39 PM

Amen Joe! I'm a Libertarian not too happy with Bush...but I will vote for him just to stop that
gun hating piece of shit Hanoi Kerry!!!

#31 - Posted by: Lug on March 2, 2004 10:52 PM

Amen on John Browning, Cav...
And Frank, don't be dissin the good ole .22: It's quiet, cheap, and those hippies are so loaded on weed that the little 40 grain bullets hit 'em like a brick through plate glass...

I am so happy that the extension failed... I hope we can make it to the end... I have some thumbholers I would like to put REAL stocks on.

#32 - Posted by: CommieBastard on March 3, 2004 01:40 AM

Oh, yeah... My Senator, Larry Craig, IS THE MAN!

#33 - Posted by: CommieBastard on March 3, 2004 01:45 AM

"It would be have been outrageous to grant them immunity when firearms kill 7,000 people in this country every year," Bloomberg said in a written statement.

i'd like to know how many people are killed by cars in traffic accidents. my friend was hit by a guy who ran a red light a couple weeks ago, no one was hurt, but the car was totaled; maybe i should tell her to sue Chevrolet for making the vehicle that the other guy was driving.

#34 - Posted by: ovrlord on March 3, 2004 02:11 AM

This afternoon the NRA handed the gun-grabbing Democrats their asses back to them! Woohoo!!! Sarah Brady, John Warner and Chuck Schumer must be puking bloody bile right now, because the gun-grabbing Dems and a few DumBass RINOs did it to themselves! By trying to tack on a 10 year extension to the ridiculous Brady Law. And by trying to 'tweak' the ludicrous 'Gun Show Loopholes' with assinine 'Background Check' riders... The NRA warned the Senate that ANY attempt to make their streamlined Manufacturer's Liability Bill any less clean would result in Calamity!!!... Well, it HAPPENED! The NRA and we gun owners won BIG! TWICE!.. No matter how CNN and the media want to paint and spin it!..The entire Bill, along with the Brady Law and Loophole riders bit the Big Enchilada!!!... Vote for 'W' and the Second Amendment on November 2nd. Then wait, people. When the Republicans have a solid lock on the House and the Senate and the same Bill is sailed through again!... Red.

#35 - Posted by: L. C. Red Ruffansore on March 3, 2004 02:17 AM

I still don't understand why you all like guns. Unless it's just to piss off the people who don't want you to have them. (Belfast-boy, pissing people off I understand.)

#36 - Posted by: Bugbear on March 3, 2004 06:29 AM

Ok, for anyone who does not understand why gun control is BAD and the average citizen should have a gun:

http://www.justfacts.com/gun_control.htm

They're conservative, but they're dedicated to being as accurate as possible. They've been giving me statistical bullets since I found the site.

And ovrlord, about 43,900 a year. Comparatively there are 1,400 fatal accidents with firearms. (1995 stats). I'm not sure where deliberate murders fall into play.

#37 - Posted by: Nikolai on March 3, 2004 08:09 AM

I believe a reporter was asking F-face a question when the photo was taken.

Q: Hey! Mutant Botox Man! What do you sit on all day? And what do you use on rich widows since your dick is limp?

#38 - Posted by: El Jefe on March 3, 2004 08:46 AM

CommieB....go Idaho, Craig is my Senator too!! Crapo was on board, also, of course. Got a letter from him last week about this issue.


Here is my Take on the Assault weapons Bill:

they propose to outlaw (and have for the last ten years) many COSMETIC features of Semi-automatic firearms. Thats like outlawing the brushguard of a Toyota 4runner....just because you might be able to run through a schoolyard killing kids with the bumper. It is all about personal responsibility of gun owners and enforcement of current laws.

"Congressman Steve Schiff recently asked the Justice Department how many criminals were prosecuted under the various provisions I have just cited. He was told that in the last three years the law was used in only 530 cases." THAT WAS FRIGGIN NATIONWIDE!!!!! THats just for gun possession during a felony or drug offense!!NATIONWIDE!!!!! JEEEEZUZZZ!!!!!

that was Tanya K Metaska, then director of the NRA-ILA, testifiying before congress in 1994

#39 - Posted by: Cavtrooper on March 3, 2004 11:04 AM

The only part of the AWB that really bugs me is the high cap mag ban. That's if you ignore the fact that it tramples all over the 2nd ammendment.

#40 - Posted by: Marc on March 3, 2004 05:10 PM

So now that the assault weapons ban will expire, where/when can I buy one before the republicrats ban them again?

#41 - Posted by: Jacob(the Libertarian) on March 4, 2004 01:38 PM

help me my state is being invaded by politicaly correct aliens who sing of diversity and love of there fellow man, that is of course unless you are a white ,christian, conservative male who loves his country is married to a female christian, works for a living. Then you are deemed mean and unreasonable and un worthy of life.What do these aliens come from? a strange place called CALIFORNIA

#42 - Posted by: MARK CALDWELL on March 15, 2004 08:16 PM

help me my state is being invaded by politicaly correct aliens who sing of diversity and love of there fellow man, that is of course unless you are a white ,christian, conservative male who loves his country is married to a female christian, works for a living. Then you are deemed mean and unreasonable and un worthy of life.What do these aliens come from? a strange place called CALIFORNIA

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