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June 01, 2004
Our Military XVI
Posted by Frank J. at 12:40 PM | View blog reactions | Comments (11)

Sorry to have not done this feature in a while, but here are some explanations readers gave of why they joined the military. I plan to alternate between these and other stories in the future. I now have a lot of stories waiting to be posted, but, if you'd like to give your own explanation of why you joined the military or have a military story, please e-mail me with the subject "Military". Thanks.

* * * *

Alan Anderson writes:

Why I went in the Marines...by me

First I have to date myself, this was almost 44 full years ago..

Working class neighborhood, South Side of Chicago....

Uncles worked in the steels mills, set tile, nailed boards....

Old man, old country type guy worked in soap works, made a hell of a lot of soap, you start by cooking down a whooole lot of pig fat, stinks, plant runs 24/7.. Steel mills run 24/7..
Sherwin-Williams paint plant runs 24/7 stinks even worse than soap works..
Steel mills very hot, lot of fire, (they were not called "open hearth" for no reason) break back shoveling...Illinois Central Grand Central Yards very cold in Chicago winters..

None of the above really appeals to me, saw it all first hand, rather wash dishes

No urge to go to college, not a lot of money, old man doesn't believe in college.. draft waiting unless I want to be a father at 19 oh oh no go with that option....

Late High School experiences show me that a life on the dark side is not for me..I always got caught..but in those days anything up to a Felony can be settled with a good beating and a threat to call the old man...

Wild Uncle Peter (I only knew family stories) killed in USAAF, North Atlantic, 1943.., Uncle Martin flew off carriers in the Pacific 1944-1945 after training on carriers in Lake Michigan, he very glad the Bomb dropped... whacked out cousin Brent wandering the world in submarines, since 1952, cold off North Korea...

Time to get out of town and bond with the crazy side of my family, Staff Sergeant recruiter asked "you sure you want four years??" Yep, why not....

What happened then???

Grew up fast...learned I was smarter than I thought...given a whole lot of responsibility when I was still a teenager..radios, airplanes, bombs, on my own on strange islands responsible for nine others and a boat full of gear before I was 20..

Had a ringside, sea borne, seat at the Kennedy-Johnson follies of 1962, 63, 64, and 65.. On my way to Cuba while Kennedy jerked around...on my way to VN before and after Kennedy Ok'd the hit on Diem.. sailing into Yokosuka the day Kennedy shot (good liberty and got drunk, quart of Gordons Gin 89 cents at the Navy NCO club if I remember correctly)..back to VN when Johnson finally managed to imitate his hero and Token Gulf blew up... up and down the Mekong, back up north, back south, listening to Armed Forces Radio report that Johnson was calling Goldwater a warmonger, HA...Politics time, can't have any formal troop landings so soon after the election and over Christmas...on to Hong Kong, best eight day liberty of my life...back to States, on to North Carolina..can't stand it...can't get transferred "you been to VN can't leave the States for a year OOPS revolution in Dominican Republic..you guys got to go,you know how to do it for real..."But Gunny you said" ..OK last time....watched Moran almost go blind on rot gut bootleg rum....beat the Airborne in by four days...Ha

Came within a week of re-enlisting.. Received my hiring letter for the Chicago Police Department four days before I was going to re-up...GI Bill very very good to me...couple of degrees and another 35 years of chasing another type of barbarian in another type of jungle...

Nothing I had to do for the rest of my life presented a problem which could not be solved or accommodated, the Corps gave me all the tools I would ever need...Other than my kids the best thing that ever happened to me..

Two great kids (one Army Major) five tremendous grandchildren. I am a happy man....

UPDATE: Alan wants to add that his eighteen year old neice reports to Marine Corps, Parris Island, in October, so let's wish her luck and God's protection.


LCpl Baisley, USMC, writes:

The draft should be a no-go. I would not want to be fighting along side of some one who does not want to be there. as far as the comment about only poor people joining up the military, I am gonna have to disagree, just about all of my buddies come from regular middle class, there are even a few rich ones here and there. I definitely did not come from a poor family and had plenty of options. I joined because I wanted to serve my country and kill people who don’t like it. And I went with the Marines, because if you are going into the service, then why not be the best. Just thought i would share that. Semper Fi


Bob Trapp (LibertyBob):

I joined the Army because it was a little more profitable than the cult I had been running. No, I'm serious. My late teens were a bit on the, uh, abnormal side. If I hadn't had this damned virus in my heart I'd be retiring as an officer in intelligence here in a few years. Based on this I must say viruses suck. I had my dreams of earning respect the easy way and having all the uniform groupies chase after me. Instead, I got to be a loser who got kicked out for what was, at the time, an unidentified illness. (The technology to diagnose the problem didn't become available till later, or most doctors are morons.) I always recommend military service. Sure, it's a good way for the poor to better their lot in life, but it's also a good way for those who have money to become respectable.


Brian Dunbar writes:

Honestly?

So there I was, a middle class suburban white kid. Everyone, but everyone I knew was going to college, somewhere. I just couldn't see wasting the money (mom and dads) and the time (mine). Too well off for a financial scholarship, too indifferent to grades for an academic ride.

And anyway, by my Junior year I'd pretty much had my mind made up on the service, and the Marines called to me. Patriotism, sure. But mostly a change to DO something strange and exotic.

Tulsa, Oklahoma is a lot of things, but exotic it's not.

Did I mention that no one in what passed for a social set in High School joined up? The ones you'd expect did - the kids who majored in Shop or Vo-Tech, of course. The thugs. And me. I don't think any of the 'college track' kids even considered ROTC.

And damn it sure was different.

Rating: 2.6/5 (4 votes cast)

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First!

#1 - Posted by: rockynoggin on June 1, 2004 01:00 PM

Those are great! I especially love Alan Anderson's essay, it brought tears to my eyes. Thanks!

First to comment on-topic!

#2 - Posted by: jonag on June 1, 2004 01:46 PM

LibertyBob,

If you wouldn't mind, can you expand on this 'cult' thing you were talking about and the virus in your heart. Sorry to be intrusive, but your story intrigued me.

=^]

#3 - Posted by: Dan on June 1, 2004 03:24 PM

Dan:
I was a bit creative as a youth. I was also stuck in lower social classes. It was easy to pass off reasoning ability and an awareness of my surroundings as supernatural powers. I was fairly nice about it; I tried to teach them the benefits of reading and math. But I was also an arrogant jerk with no real direction in life.

As for the virus thing... At best guess, it happened about the age of eleven. The damage grew slowly and only showed up in extreme circumstances. I could hike forever but couldn't run worth a damn (stamina). Turns out running in the sun at Fort Bliss taxed the heart a bit much. The symptoms were unpredictable at the time but in hindsight are pretty clear.
A fewof years ago, the damage became severe enough to be obvious. Still, this sort of thing goes misdiagnosed in most cases (according to the MD who figured it out.) A couple months before it was found, I was told by an emergency room doctor, "...there's nothing wrong with your heart. Your heart is fine." They diagnosed as an anxiety attack. My heart pump efficiency was down to 15% (human normal is about 65%).
Now, with proper diet and exercise and handfuls of pills, I'm back to 45% and getting better.
I still have to "...live a more sedentary lifestyle..." so I'm back in school. In about a year and half on the current plan I'll be graduating with degrees in Computer Science and Mathematics.
So, Dan, that's the story. For more of my ramblings, check out the archives at LibertyBob.com.

#4 - Posted by: LibertyBob on June 1, 2004 06:21 PM

Frank, do me a favor. My son is enlisting tomorrow in the Navy. (Yeah, I know, what can I say?) Pass on to Alan Anderson that I printed out his post and left it taped to my boy's bedroom door. Just so he knows someone is going into the service having read his words.

#5 - Posted by: Greywolf on June 1, 2004 10:17 PM

Alan Anderson. No joking. I would love to read your whole story. You are my idea of a modern day hero.

#6 - Posted by: gibsonrlz on June 2, 2004 09:24 AM

Thanks Bob,

I checked out your site and didn't see anything that I could jump to quickly, and being the lazy American I am I decided to ask.

Thanks again!

#7 - Posted by: Dan on June 2, 2004 09:35 AM

hey Brian D, if you read this, I'm curious about your time in Tulsa, I'm from there and so is my husband who's currently in Afghanistan. your name sounds vaguely familiar, but it could just be all the crack I smoke to deal with all my free time. ;D

#8 - Posted by: maggiekatzen on June 2, 2004 11:07 PM

I am going to join the marines because it is illegal to kill muslims in America. I figure if I go to Iraq or Afghanistan, I will have lotsa muslim targets.
Seriously, I wanna kill those bastards before they kill more of us. Besides, if the press says our military is bad then I know that's just another lie which means I am really joining the good guys.

#9 - Posted by: moron on June 3, 2004 11:00 PM

Bush wins! Bush wins! W four more butalbital years! Great trazodone!

#10 - Posted by: butalbital on November 3, 2004 03:36 PM

Please visit some relevant pages about- Tons of interesdting stuff!!!

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