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June 07, 2004
Our Military XVII
Cpl. Joe foo' tells me that Ronald Reagan meant a lot to people in the military, as he always saluted. "One of the worst things than not saluting is not returning a salute." In a way, I think our currently fighting is an extension of Reagan's optimism, that a brighter future is possible even a land that seems to have been war-torn forever. Anyway, here are more explanations by readers of why they joined the military. I still have a lot of stories waiting to be posted, but, if you'd like to give your own explanation of why you joined the military or have a military story, please e-mail me with the subject "Military". Thanks. * * * * Jeff from Connecticut writes: I joined the military in 1987. I don't come from a poor family. I was not unemployed when I went in. The military was not the only job I could get in those unfortunate economic times. I enlisted so I could get money for college.
I graduated from Christian Brothers High School in May of 1981. I was working at Victoria Station (not Secret - unfortunately) restaurant for the better part of the previous 2 years. I had done the 'American Dream' by starting off washing dishes, moving on to salad bars, bussing tables, bar back, prep chef and finally waiting tables. El Jefe, who sent this to me some weeks ago, happened to end the e-mail with a Reagan quote. I know I've seen it everywhere, but it's worth repeating: I hope that when you're my age you'll be able to say, as I have been able to say: we lived in freedom, we lived lives that were a statement, not an apology.
I joined the Navy for several reasons, first, just about every male relative I have on both my mother's and my father's side of the family was either a sailor or a marine, (although I heard rumors growing up that one or two black sheep joined the army) as far back as the American revolution; a fact that my grandmother was always proud to tell us. She was a member of the DAR. My great grandfather was in the "Great White Fleet" of Theodore Roosevelt. So I guess it was a tradition in the family. Anyway, I am a little older than most of the people who write you, (although not ancient by any means, I love this site and have a great appreciation of your humor and talent, can anyone say free "Nuke the Moon T-shirt?"). [Ed. Note: Not me] 18 Responses To "Our Military XVII"
Hi: I love reading these stories. Everything I have ever read or heard about the military life makes regret even more not being able to have a part of it. I wanted to join The Marines, or The Army, like my respective grandfathers did. Of course my reason was rather prosaic, like some of the reasons mentioned above. I wanted money for college. My grades were excellent, but both my parents were teachers, and I didn't really qualify for much financial aid, as we were squarely middle class. So I took the ASVAB? (I think that is what it was called) I got a 98 out of 100. Every recruiter for each branch of the military was pounding on my door. I could study any field I wanted, become an officer, anything!! Just sign with us!! It was that year that I learned I had asthma. The recruiters stopped returning my calls. Couldn't even join the Coast Guard(no disrespect intended) So to everyone who did join up, thanks a lot. From talking to friends, I realized how much I missed. The honor, the discipline, the sense of purpose.(Plus one of my friends learned how to fly helicopters! When he was frickin' 19 years old! How cool is that!?!) I never miss a chance to honor veterans, and I wish I could actually salute them, even though it isn't appropriate as a civilian. Thanks. Jeff Read this article in the Washington Compost about a Vietnam era protester. "Some people spend their entire lives wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines have no such problem." First to say first! #3 - Posted by: beo on June 7, 2004 02:45 PM--Great stories, guys! Thanks for sharing with us, Frank! --Jeff, it's not 25 years... it's only 20. You can stay for longer, but 20 is the soonest you can get out on retirement. That's why I was able to retire from the Marine Corps at age 37 and start a whole new- and VERY motivating- career. --It's a great life when you spend part of it serving others!! #4 - Posted by: Devil Dog on June 7, 2004 03:05 PMThanks for letting me share, and I'd like to add that serving under President Reagan was outstanding. We really felt like we were the best military in the world, a lot of pride and motivation. #5 - Posted by: rockynoggin on June 7, 2004 03:08 PMPerhaps I've just been lucky, but the Marine recruiters in my town have always been very honest with us recruits. What they've always told us boils down to: Basic is Hell, the DIs are the spawn of Satan himself, and the Crucible will chew you up, spit out your ragged remains, and piss on them. But when alls said and done, you'll be a Marine. Only after they've finished scaring us do they start talking about all the cool shit we can do in the Corps. Usually by telling stories of they've done after we finished PT. #6 - Posted by: Lyons on June 7, 2004 04:43 PMI know I want to join either the Navy or the Marines as an aviator through (hopefully) the USNA, or definitely ROTC, but I'm really torn as to which one. Damn. Oh well. Still got two years to think about it. #7 - Posted by: MagKnightX on June 7, 2004 05:20 PMHello Frank, Are you interested in more veterans stories? I served 6 years in the U.S.N. during Reagan and Bush Sr. We went all over the world, was in the med in '86 when Gaddafi had his"line of death" thing. Learned a good trade, served honorably and did finally go to college...and still am in college! Anyhow, thanks for printing the veterans stories. John #8 - Posted by: John on June 7, 2004 06:49 PMI said I'm interested, didn't I? I'd love more veteran stories. #9 - Posted by: Frank J. on June 7, 2004 07:51 PMthanks for posting these Frank, they're really great to read and give me a deeper respect for our amazing warriors. #10 - Posted by: sarahk on June 7, 2004 09:28 PMThanks Sarahk. Mine's coming Frank. If I'm going to write it out, It's going to be true. #11 - Posted by: Greywolf on June 7, 2004 10:06 PM"I told the recruiter that I wanted to be an MP, and naturally he signed me up to be a Legal Clerk. He assured me that it was pretty much the same thing and that I could always change my MOS after I was in." ROTFLMAO! That just gets me to thinking about some of lies that my Navy recruiter told me with the straightest of faces - one of the smaller ones being that OF COURSE you'll be able to take the day off on Christmas during Boot Camp. You can even go home and see your family if you want. Lyons, It has been my (and others I know) experience that recruiters mainly lie about "career fields" and duty postings. They have to fill certain slots. So they will tell lies (as has been noted by others) like: "you can cross train out" or "you won't get sent to (*shudder*) Turkey." Regards, sam #13 - Posted by: sam on June 8, 2004 11:00 AMWait... El Jefe? Great band but whoever writes their lyrics snorted waaaaay to much crack
El Jefe - Thank you for serving our country for 20 years. You suck for the 1970 340 'Cuda, though. I'm jealous. When I find one of the remaining AAR's, I'll show you up, fly boy. ;-) #15 - Posted by: Cowboy Bob on June 9, 2004 01:42 PMHey Jefe, let's hear it for the Brothers! Sam: Then that confirms that I've been lucky, since if our recruiters HAVE been lying, that means we will never ever see combat or leave the States. 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