FIRST!!

And the last one is the best!

Logic is to Democrats as a cross is to vampires. If you get in an argument with a Democrat and use logic, he will run away screaming "Bush Lied" or "No blood for oil"

Is it just me...or would this make a great poster.

The base of the Democratic part is thought to be angry, drunken dwarves, but they may in fact be gnomes.

unionized gnomes, of course.

I have to get up early. I want to be first in line at the county courthouse for my setting fire to democrats permit.

would the ACLU and Congressional Democrats still consider that a form of freedom of expression, though?

Personally I liked scaring them away with snakes guns and concepts of personal responsibility.

Tom

My fav: "...a giant statue [of] Michael Moore which...demands tributes of ham." In my mind the statue comes to life, and with a smarmy grin rampages godzilla-like thru the countryside, snatching up cows, sheep and the occasional unwary farmer. Obviously, I'm not well.

"You can't set fire to Democrats without a permit."

Since when did you have to have a permit? I want to know what moronic Senator smoked up this idea.

"If you're plagued by Democrats, they can be scared away with snakes, guns, or concepts of individual responsibility"

Quick!! Someone find a way to explain individual responsibility to the mentally-challenged. I'm in NY state...we're rapidly running out of time here.

if this becomes a shirt i will, personally, buy at least 30.
and Jenno...here in NYC, we find it's easier to just smack them with a bat.

beca

The problem with trying to teach Democrats personal responsibility is that you are not a government licensed, paid, and unionized teacher or a government licensed, paid, and tenured professor so they will not listen.

I'm in a bit of a humorless mood, so they only one that made me laugh was the last one.

Yeah! I can't tell you how much I've missed Aquaman! Poor Aquaman.

Well I laughed hysterically at almost every single one. I love the whole "personal responsibility" thing, but how exactly are you supposed to explain the concept to liberals?

One of the liberal sayings that I hate the most is "At least no one died when Clinton lied". I've found the best way to answer is with, "Can you prove it?"

I can see John Kerry now:

"Damn you, living babies! I didn't serve in Vietnam so that women wouldn't have abortions!"

* The base of the Democratic part is thought to be angry, drunken dwarves, but they may in fact be gnomes.

I knew that Travelocity guy was a democrat.

"When traveling with Travelocity..don't forget your hat!

* To do better in elections, many Democrats are trying to allow felons to vote. Next on their agenda: Allowing foreign terrorists to vote.

* Trial lawyers can and do vote for Democrats... probably for the same reason convicted felons and terrorists would.

lol....they just want there like minded brethren to vote for them.

* The Democrats have built a giant statue in tribute to Michael Moore which eyes glow red, shoots fire out of its ass, and constantly demands tributes of ham.

hahahha.............

Very good, sir. Quite a chuckle, indeed.

-Joshua

Jenna wrote "Quick!! Someone find a way to explain individual responsibility to the mentally-challenged."

The caliber should start with a "4".

You know, I was about to make a post about this...but after I separated the "facts" into "factual", "silly", "calls to hit Democrats" and "just plain lame," I didn't have enough substance. You silly bobos!

"* Every so often Democrats will roam the countryside eating everything in site before plunging into the sea. That might be called "Earth Day.""

Sight, not site, i'm just pointing this out so it can be fixed before the trolls freak about it.

Frankly, I think Sight and Site should be made into one word, Sighte, and it should be used in place of both Sight and Site.

I smell a new tshirt...
Democrats like ear plugs. Can you guess why? Helps their ego after arguments...
"Man, I really let him have it."

I don't think Frank cares what trolls do. Trolls are a mockery of themselves. We all know Frank is a genius.

Frank,
They're definitely not Dwarves, Gimli would totally vote Republican cause he doesn't want to lose his mythril due to ridiculous taxes. Anyway, Noam Chomsky... or is it Gnome Chomsky!?

haha Reed the Viking, that was funny.

Ian! I wondered where you went. This place was getting really funny without you.

Oh and that's not neccesarily meant as an insult, so don't get bent out of shape or anything....

You managed to include
* You can't set fire to Democrats without a permit.
, and that's good. But you forgot
* Get a permit
!

Democrats are getting scarce on the ground here in VA.

Why?

Open carry law went into effect 1 July!

Is there a democrat burning season? Can I use gasoline?

Also is there a point system? I imagine that we could go by hair length with bonus points for tye-died shirts and birkenstocks.

"Man I just bagged a 24 inch tye-die. It was sweet!!!"

I will buy several of these shirts

I like the one about "it's funny to dump a bucket of cold water on their head and hear them blame haliburton"

I like that one because they always have a tendancy to ignore the obvious cause of a problem.

Anyway, the Drudge Headline today has me down. Say it ain't so! If that's true, Bush could be finished.

A Republican Female in South Florida

As a South Florida resident for the last ten years, let me begin by affirming my abiding love for the Sunshine State: With its crystal-clear blue ocean, miles of beautiful beaches, ubiquitous palm trees, and endless summer climate, it captured the heart of this born- and- raised Northern girl from the moment I arrived back in 1994. Though I’d only ever lived in the Philadelphia-area during my 27 years of life prior to my Southern departure, South Florida felt like home immediately. And that is in spite of its status as haven and home to countless other transplanted Northeasterners (but that’s another story).
In my zeal for balmy tropical breezes, outdoor art fairs and street festivals and a single, light-weight wardrobe, there was one thing I did not anticipate: The scarcity of conservative political comrades. Having been raised in a family of staunch Republicans actively involved in local politics (my oldest brother served as Commissioner for one term in our township; Mom did a 20-year stint as Committeewoman), it never occurred to me I’d be the odd-man-out more often than not in social/business settings in my new home state. It’s not that we didn’t have Democrats in Pennsylvania -- God knows I encountered many of the opposing party while volunteering as a poll-watcher on Election Days – it’s just that it seemed more balanced between right and left. Here in South Florida, the scale is definitely tipped in Michael Moore’s favor (a heavy burden, indeed!).
A few cases in point: About two months ago, I went to a business networking event in Delray Beach, attended mostly by small business owners (i.e. a critical segment of the population President Bush supports by easing tax burdens). Most of the evening was pleasant, if uneventful, until one of my friends mentioned the last book she’d read, Living History, by Hillary Clinton. My friend rhapsodized over the tome, summarizing the impeachment as “something cooked up by the Republicans, in response to an extramarital affair” and shrugged off the blatant immorality and deceitfulness of former President Clinton by declaring matter-of-factly, “All Presidents cheat on their wives.”
Oh, really? I mused silently. I must have missed that in History class. There are so many flaws in this statement; it is hard to know where to begin. The first thing that comes to mind is the sage advice of good mothers (mine included) everywhere: “Just because everybody’s doing it doesn’t make it right!” However, upon further inspection, her words are flat-out insulting to every man who has ever held the esteemed office of Commander-in-Chief of the greatest country in the world. The assumption that they’ve all cheated belies a deep-rooted cynicism and pessimism held by most liberals; even worse, the blasé acceptance of the sin of adultery as defined by the Ten Commandments reflects their utter disregard for the Judeo-Christian values upon which this nation was founded.
Further, it surprised me that my otherwise intelligent, savvy and successful friend, like so many others, had reduced the crimes of Bill Clinton to a single extramarital tryst with a White House intern (as if that isn’t bad enough on its own). But that is par for the course --pardon the pun -- in sunny South Florida. And that evening, it soon became apparent that most of my companions at the dinner table were of the same mind.
As if to lend his support, an older gentleman in the group, an auto-body shop owner, with solid Midwestern roots, raised his arm and boldly declared: “What this country needs is a radical shift to the left! If it’s to the Left, it’s for me!” His outcry was met with rousing applause from a printer-friend of mine (whom I otherwise respect and admire), and his wife, who added: “It’s so great to see so many Liberal small business-owners! That’s such a rare find!” I sat there, metaphorically scratching my head at the incongruence of the liberal philosophy as it relates to the small business owner (and to all working Americans): Tax, tax, tax. Did these people actually enjoy giving so much of their hard-earned money to the government? Was she really serious about a lack of liberal small business owners in South Florida?
Obviously, this woman didn’t get out of the print shop very often. Had she been actively involved in organizations like Women for Excellence, Delray Beach Chamber of Commerce (or any local Chamber), or any of the assorted leads groups to which I’d held active membership, she would have beamed with pride at the liberal agenda embraced by most of the members. And yes, by and large, most of them owned small businesses. It both amuses and befuddles me that these people feel “persecuted” when I’m usually the one who is outnumbered in a crowd.
On the other hand, it is quite a rush whenever I discover that an admired friend or associate is also a fellow Republican. A classic example of this occurred just a few short weeks ago. My aforementioned printer friend had invited me to join the Boca Raton Kiwanis Chapter several months ago, which I happily obliged. It is a wonderful organization, and we volunteer and contribute to many local events, mainly focused on the welfare of children.
Our weekly (7:30 a.m….ugh!) meetings begin with a rousing rendition of either “God Bless America” or “My Country ‘Tis of Thee,” in which all members energetically participate. This is followed by the enthusiastic recitation of “The Pledge of Allegiance,” before one of the members reads an invocation from the Kiwanis prayer book. Our Christian and Jewish mix of members embraces the ritual, and, to the best of my knowledge, none has ever lodged a complaint with the ACLU. We’re all there for one purpose: To make a difference in our local community in the lives of children. And, for a few brief moments, we forget our political differences to reaffirm our unity as Americans.
Still, even this civic-minded group has its moments. At a recent meeting, while our President Tom fiddled with the VCR for a guest speaker’s presentation, an image of President Bush appeared on the television screen. Judging from the reaction of most of the members, it might as well have been the devil himself. While the booing was done in a humorous way, the intense dislike of the President was very apparent. One of the members, next to whom I’d been sitting, said jokingly, “OK, leave poor Tom alone!”
I actually felt a rush of adrenaline as I processed those words. Could that mean that Tom is a Republican like me? Eager to find out, I posed the question to Jim, the gentleman who’d made the appeal. To my delight, Jim not only confirmed Tom’s status as a conservative, but his own as well. “Me, too!” I added with the excitement of a child at Christmas.
At the end of the meeting, I approached Tom and informed him of our mutual political beliefs. Immediately, his face lit up like fireworks on the 4th of July and he broke out into a big grin from ear to ear. Shaking my hand vigorously, he responded, “Daria, that’s so good to know!” Apparently I wasn’t the only one who likened finding a Republican in South Florida to discovering buried treasure.
Without a doubt, the area boasts an abundance of clubs and organizations for both of the major political parties, and I have held membership in the Young Republicans of Palm Beach County, as well as attended pro-USA rallies during the Iraq War, sponsored by the Boca Raton Republican Club. If I want to seek refuge from the daily insanity I encounter on the streets, I need only attend a meeting of like-minded individuals to reaffirm my faith in the existence of South Floridians who actually love the United States and want us to win the war on terror.
Before I am accused of questioning the patriotism of local members of the Democratic Party, many of whom are dear friends, allow me to explain: Like so many of their counterparts around the country, their dissent is not so much based upon conscience as it is upon hatred for our current President. I often wonder, had Al Gore (God forbid!) won the election and taken the same approach to terror as George W. Bush (highly unlikely, but let’s suspend disbelief for a moment), would they be hurling the same diatribes against the Commander-in-Chief? I hardly think so. After all, Bill Clinton took us to war without the consent of the United Nations, and not one word of protest was uttered from the mouths of any of my liberal friends. Incidentally, I supported the decision as an American, though I am no fan of Slick Willie. Too bad so many liberals are unable to walk the same moral ground.
Here’s a striking example: At a dinner party hosted by one of my closest friends (with whom I’ve agreed to disagree for the sake of our friendship), one of the guests baited me into a hostile confrontation. The war in Iraq was in full swing at the time, and one of the women at the table, whose son was actively serving, expressed her grave concern for his welfare. In an effort to comfort her, I offered to pray for his safety and congratulated her on her son’s conviction and courage. Before she could even respond, the gentleman (I use the term loosely) at the head of the table, seated to my left (how appropriate), let loose with a vicious, hate-infested diatribe rivaling anything out of France or Germany.
“You’re son is nothing but a paid mercenary! Anyone over there fighting this war deserves whatever they get!” he angrily scowled at this poor woman, causing her to tearfully flee into the kitchen for refuge. When I rebuked him for his insensitivity, he shot back at me, “What are you, a conservative Republican?” I responded that above all, I was a patriotic American who supported the President and the Troops, which he apparently considered an unacceptable answer. “Just as I thought,” he replied with haughty bitterness.
This so-called American man was, by all accounts, a wealthy entrepreneur who obviously enjoyed the privileges of living in a free society; no doubt he possessed intelligence and a good work ethic. So what could possibly explain his unjustifiable and extremely rude behavior? He, like so many others down here, still buys into the fallacy that the 2000 election was “stolen” and that George W. Bush was “selected, not elected.”
Putting aside the proven fact that W won the election fairly, albeit by a close margin, let’s take a deeper look. This angry middle-aged man is indicative of the self-loathing anti-Americanism that runs rampant in the Democratic Party and in much of South Florida. Even when confronted with an aggrieved mother of a soldier-son, this member of the self-proclaimed “tolerant” left couldn’t even muster the decency to offer a word of support. To the best of my knowledge, this woman wasn’t seeking agreement with American foreign policy; she was simply looking for comfort. Instead she found insult added to injury, my comments notwithstanding.
Further, this man was so hell-bent on labeling (gee, I thought Liberals were against that) me as a Conservative, there was no hope for any kind of rational debate on the topic of Iraq. In the best interest of the distraught woman, I refrained from asking him burning questions like: “Do you enjoy your freedom to make money in a Capitalist Society?” “Do you realize that if it weren’t for soldiers like her son, you’d be wearing a turban and praying to Allah?” “Don’t you understand that Iraq is another front on the War on Terror, which we’re fighting over there so we don’t have to do it here?”
But there would have been no point, as this man would have simply continued his diatribe against me and all Republicans, whom he obviously views as a greater threat to America than Al-Qaeda. It frightens me that in a post-9/11 world, there are actually people in my own backyard who view George Bush as a terrorist. Many South Floridians would rather die than applaud the President’s big-picture strategy of annihilating these fanatics on their own turf and eliminating the oppressive regimes under which they flourish. Is it simply that partisan politics forbids them from giving credit where it is due, even though the Islamo-fascists make no distinction between Democrat and Republican in their hatred of America?
Some of my non-Florida resident friends and family members have attributed the preponderance of left-leaning attitudes in South Florida to a particular ethnic group. I respectfully disagree with this. While it is true that many of my Jewish friends subscribe to this line of reasoning, I can also cite examples of those who staunchly support our country and President. Indeed, Bush-bashers in the area run the gamut from Gentile to Jew and everything in between. But for the sake of argument, let’s begin with those who share Barbra Streisand’s ethnic background and political views.
On Christmas Eve of 2001, I hosted a dinner party after evening Mass, for some close friends, one of whom, happens to be Jewish. During the course of the traditional, 7-fish meal, the topic of the September 11th terrorist attacks inevitably arose; it had only been a few months since that horrific day, and its atrocities were still fresh in all of our minds. Inevitably, we discussed our fondest hope that our soldiers would annihilate the Taliban and bring Usama Bin Laden to justice (or better yet, to a tortuous death). Mara, however, had a different take on our military presence in Afghanistan: “You know it’s all about the oil, don’t you? That’s all Bush cares about!”
I could feel the adrenaline rush throughout my body as I fought to control my emotions. Fortunately, Mara’s follow up statement regarding CNN’s “favorable and slanted bias toward Bush” provided the just comic relief I needed. The Clinton News Network slanted favorably towards President Bush? She was kidding, right? Thankfully, someone else changed the subject before we could delve any further. It was, after all, Christmas.
More recently, while sharing lunch at a nice Italian restaurant on Atlantic Avenue with three other business associates, one of whom shares my political viewpoint, the conversation turned controversial. The British gentleman with whom we were dining (who happens to be of Jewish descent) expressed his intense desire for President Bush to be voted out of the White House. Never mind that he was raised in a traditional Orthodox home; never mind that the President he so intensely hated was a staunch supporter of Israel and was standing strong against extremists whose sole united mission was to destroy Christian and Jew alike; no – none of that mattered to this successful entrepreneur, whom I assume otherwise enjoys the privileges of a free society.
I wanted to delve into it further; to pose the question of why he was living in the United States instead of his native England, and to ascertain his position on Tony Blair. Did he hate the Prime Minister as much as he did our President? Did he realize that freedom isn’t free and that Western Civilization was in a fight for its very survival? As these thoughts ran through my head, I glanced at my friend Theresa, a fellow Conservative. After a quick analysis of her body language, I adroitly changed the subject, but not before declaring my unwavering support for George W. Bush.
Yet, I understood Theresa’s motivation and fears; in fact, I shared them with all of my Republican friends. To some in this region of the state of Florida, the word “Republican” is synonymous with words like “racist,” “greedy,” “selfish” and “evil.” I have actually had people say things to me like, “You’re Republican, but we love you, anyway!” Gee, thanks. It is more than a little ironic that most of the Democrats I know here are wealthy, prosperous small business owners who hate the very party that supports their way of life. Meanwhile, those of us who embrace Capitalism and the party of Lincoln, tend to stay in the closet for fear we’ll be discriminated against in business.
While I don’t hide the fact that I am a staunch Republican, I have to admit I shy away from any discussion of the election, the war on terror or anything political when I am in mixed company. Even among friends, I tend to steer the conversation to neutral topics. Recently, I hung out at a pub in Boynton Beach with a group of people with whom I often go out. Out of the blue, one of my closest friends baited me into a discussion of who I planned to vote for in the November election, knowing full well I was the only one at the table casting a ballot for W. I calmly replied that I was voting for the President and that there was no further need for discussion.
Most disappointing to me, however, are my fellow Christians. There seems to be an epidemic in South Florida of liberal Christianity. Instead of standing up for good and denouncing evil, most leaders concern themselves with “tolerance,” bending over backwards not to “offend” any one particular group. I’m no biblical scholar, although I am the product of eighteen years of Catholic schooling. In an effort to be fair and balanced, let me begin there.
As a child growing up in a traditional family, every Sunday at Mass and every day at school, I was taught about the evils of abortion. The nuns in particular would hammer the point home with pamphlets, articles and other publications that rightly denounced abortion as a heinous and vile scourge on humanity. Yet who did these nuns support when it came time to cast a ballot? Liberal Democrats who openly voiced their support for a woman’s “right to choose.” Fortunately, my astute Republican mother saw through the hypocrisy and made sure all of her children did, too.
While in high school during the Reagan years, nuns, priests and lay teachers openly labeled our 40th President as a “war monger” who was going to annihilate the world. Never mind that millions of people were suffering under the oppression of Communism, or that Ronald Reagan held a solid pro-life stance; in their eyes he was an evil Republican, a man to be feared and more importantly, voted out of office. Thank God, the majority of the country at the time disagreed with them.
But now we are facing an enemy unlike any other -- an enemy that embraces a culture of death in the name of Allah – whose ultimate goal is the destruction of the “Infidels,” a major portion of humanity that includes followers of Jesus Christ. We have a Christian President who, like so many heroes of the bible, is confronting evil and destroying the conditions in which it thrives. So it would only stand to reason that Christian leaders around the world would applaud and support his efforts, right?
Unfortunately, from the Pope and the Vatican to religious leaders in the United States, this has proven false. I found myself on the verge of denouncing Catholicism when the Pope publicly condemned the Iraq War, yet remained strangely silent on the issue of pedophile priests. Did he really believe Jesus wanted us to sit by and allow the daily rape, torture and torment of the Iraqi people to continue? Were we supposed to allow the terror-friendly environment of Iraq to continue to produce weapons of mass destruction, human and otherwise?
Apparently so. I guess in the eyes of the Pope I am a bad Catholic. So be it. However, he’s not alone in his political correctness.
Take the case of a private, K-12 Christian School in Boca Raton. Founded on the Episcopal faith, the school takes great pains to demonstrate its “tolerance” to the point of watering down the very religion it claims to profess. When “The Passion of the Christ” hit the theaters this past Lenten season, the Headmaster’s first concern was for his non-Christian “constituents.” To that end, he read every newspaper article he could find, prior to viewing the movie, in an effort to reach out to those students who might feel “alienated” and “offended” by its content. It seemed the good Minister felt the need to apologize in advance of viewing the film, which he ultimately dismissed as “too violent.” I guess they didn’t teach him about the brutality of crucifixion as a form of death in Divinity School.
The other day, as I was getting a therapeutic treatment for tendonitis in my right foot, I overheard a conversation between two therapists, both of whom are Evangelical Christians. It seems that after viewing a piece on Sixty Minutes, they’d drawn the conclusion that our President lied about weapons of mass destruction, thus leading us into an “unnecessary” war. “I’m Republican, but I’m voting for John Kerry,” one announced to the other. Putting aside the lack of objectivity of the CBS show for a moment, let’s take a deeper look.
Having been in their company at a mutual friend’s party, I knew that these people openly professed their faith in Jesus Christ as their Savior; I was aware of their pro-life stance and their adherence to the Ten Commandments. I can only assume their knowledge of the fact that Islamo-fascists wanted nothing more than the complete annihilation and destruction of Christianity. Yet, based on the “facts” presented by one network television show (and possibly the propaganda promulgated in “Fahrenheit 9/11”), these devout Christians were going to cast their vote in favor of a man who supports the brutal killing of unborn children and seeks the permission of other countries to defend the USA.
Perhaps because of the sensors attached to my leg, over which my therapist had complete control, I chose to pretend I hadn’t heard their exchange. I buried my head in a mindless celebrity magazine and kept my grumblings to myself. “So much for the stereotype of Jewish South Floridians being the only Kerry supporters,” I silently mused.
I wanted to ask for their view on biblical stories like Jesus furiously throwing the tax-collectors out of the temple, Moses angrily confronting his people over their worship of idols or David bravely confronting Goliath, but I refrained. Yet, I wonder why Christian leaders are so reluctant to do so, on their pulpits. As defenders of the faith, don’t they have an obligation to speak out? Haven’t we understood yet the perils of politically-correct thinking? Has September 11, 2001 taught us nothing?
In spite of the frustrations associated with being a Conservative in South Florida, I plan to head to the polls this November to cast my vote for George W. Bush with optimism and confidence. I am after all, Republican.

Daria DiGiovanni

I just enrolled 2 of my children in a charter school after 7 years of homeschooling. Last night was "Meet the Teacher" night. On one wall was an American flag and under it a picture of George and Laura Bush. "Whew", I thought "I'm going to like this place."

Daria, Thank you for your story. Although I've always thought of the term "liberal Christian" as an oxymoron. I too was raised Catholic and my grandmother always voted democrat. I just figured it was because we lived in the liberal Northwest. I guess I was wrong.

*crickets chirping*

Dear craig1f,

Which drudge headline; this one?
http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000903.html

Dear Daria DiGiovanni,

There's only thing that doesn't ring true to me in your story. That is that people who hate and loathe so deeply are otherwise reasonable friends of yours. In order to flush them out, I suggest you emulate Frank J. more closely. For example, every once in a while blurt out something like "The only thing I want is lower taxes and more dead foreigners". That ought to do the trick.

Since I don't have anything else to add to this, I bring a joke:

Q: How many Democrats does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: 9. Two to do the actual screwing, one to get Maplethorpe to photograph the event, and six to lobby the government to pay Maplethorpe for photograhing it.

Frank, another great one!

To do better in elections, many Democrats are trying to allow felons to vote. Next on their agenda: Allowing foreign terrorists to vote.

Isn't that already happening in The Peoples Republic of California? Or was that just in school elections (Like it makes a difference - if you are not a citizen, you should not be here illegially in the first place, much less vote for stuff)

The Democrats have built a giant statue in tribute to Michael Moore which eyes glow red, shoots fire out of its ass, and constantly demands tributes of ham.

Didn't that happen in the Left Behind series? Oh wait, that was Nicolae Carpathia, who was the anti-Christ. They built him a huge statue that was fire breathing, and had red eyes as a memorial. They did not offer him hams though.
Yikes!

I seem to get some people confused with the anti-Christ such as Mt. Moore and Hillary.

Scary.

Now that I look at Edwards however......

Anyone seen Omen III? I swear that actor in there (I forgot his name) looks like Edwards.

Love the baby Jesus line, although it sounds like something Moxie would say.

And, Daria, thanks for the post. I only wish it were somewhere other than in the comments section, where it could reach a larger audience.

or it could be:

Every time someone applauds at a Michael Moore film, the baby Jesus cries.

Still LOVE both references!

Frank:
Another "Dr. Pepper spewing up my nose" piece. Vegas and losing money must make you even funnier than usual. What a great t-shirt. Print it now.

Daria:
See, you should have had your fire permit for those people! Or at least a rolled up newspaper! Frank is right, you have to catch them in the act. Otherwise, they will just continue to poop all over everything.

Love the baby Jesus line, although it sounds like something Moxie would say.

And, Daria, thanks for the post. I only wish it were somewhere other than in the comments section, where it could reach a larger audience.

Posted by unkleremis at August 3, 2004 12:22 PM
Covered that and it's posted now. Come over to......

Hello Infidels!

I'm not going to run on as long but I apologize for the length anyway.

My bestest friend in the world is a Jew in South Florida. Whenever I would visit her I always felt like I was in another country mainly because everybody knew I was...a Gentile. So, I don't think being a Republican is the only thing that would make a Christian feel like a fish out of water.

She was visiting me and flew home a week before 9/11. She had family at the World Trade Center. We never, never, talked about politics because we knew we were on opposite sides but when we finally spoke she told me she had been disgusted by Clinton for having Arafat(sp?) in the White House and she was glad that Bush understood the big picture in the Middle East.

John, I loved the crickets chirping but I killed two of the suckers already.

Speaking of crickets, SarahK, I wish my cat would eat crickets. He just likes to watch them but my mom's cat also leaves the legs behind. I guess it's kind of like the parsley they put on the side of a plate...it's just for decoration.

lol@Wolf's Dawn

in ref to Speaking of crickets, SarahK, I wish my cat would eat crickets. He just likes to watch them but my mom's cat also leaves the legs behind. I guess it's kind of like the parsley they put on the side of a plate...it's just for decoration.

How do I make the TrackBack show that I ref'd this piece.
Is that automatic?

Overheard at resort in South Beach:
"Excuse me, is that a bleeding heart liberal in your speedos or are you just carrying a worthless, flaccid appendage between your legs?"

Thank you, I'm here all week! Try the veal and don't forget to tip your waitstaff!

krautstink,
That totally krautstink-ed. j/k

OH MY GOSH!

The Democrats now have a "Liberal Attack Machine!"

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040803-121322-5779r.htm

Look out everyone!

Krautstink, as ridiculous as your comment was, that made me convulse with fits of laughter.. Hahaha, seriously that was hilarious. I don't even know why.

I go for the cheese, Reed. I go for the cheese.
Besides, when you look at Kerry's face, doesn't it kind of look like a collection of discarded foreskin? Hence my inspiration for the liberal in the pants joke.

Joshua, yes, my little joke may have "krautstink-ed", but it's a known fact that some of the world's finest fromage has a bit of an odor... :)

Do not speak of the fromage. It's one of the only things the French do right (besides surrendering and drinking whine[spelled it whine on purpose]).

We do not speak of it.

I noticed something at work today that wasn't on the list. I'm sure the only reason it wasn't on the list is because Frank is much better at getting rid of pesky democrats than me, but here is what I noticed/learned at my government job:
Democrats automatically assume that anyone within earshot shares their political convictions. This is because they idolize Clinton and just can't leave any pice of ass alone, even an ass-umption.

heheh...funny one Krautstink.

Hey, what's the difference between Michael Moore and a big old hog rolling around in it's own feces.

No, seriously, this isn't a joke. I'm having trouble seeing the difference.

Here is just the tip of the ice berg regarding the Democrat's appeasement policies.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) is doing it RIGHT!!

Send your liberal friends to this camp!

Joshua,

Sherrif Joe does have the right idea. I live in the Phoenix metro area and I laugh my ass off every time I see the "inhumanely" treated criminals.

Maybe if he is re-elected he can have an inmate-skeet machine like in History of the World.

Shameless link whoring, so CLICK to see the future republican(s).

You are all so incredibly scary.

What about the tax cut that GWB gave to the top 1%?

I'm against abortion, too, but do you really think that Republicans care about the well-being of most people? They don't, and as a result, a number of increasingly-poor people will choose abortion for financial reasons.

You are all so incredibly fooled.

Pfffffttttp
I got a tax cut and I`m nowhere near the top 1% so stop yer propagandizing, it won`t float here.

Dear Dem,

Do so care! Nyah nyah!

I figure you deserved an equally mature and logically sound argument.

Hey Meatloaf, er I mean joatmoaf, your piddly tax cut makes no difference whatsoever. Those in the top 1% got hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars cut. Your tax cut probably bought a delicious meal for you and your mate at Red Lobster. Puff! Gone.

Let's see... more bad news for you guys:

Michael Moore strikes AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

Political lightning rod and surprise sleeper blockbuster of the summer, Michael Moore's incendiary Fahrenheit 9/11 will hit DVD on October 5th from Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment. Just in time for Election Day, the disc will come in an extended version with a new scene "Homeland Security: Miami Style," presented in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround track, along with the "Release of Fahrenheit 9/11," "The People of Iraq on the Eve of Invasion" and "Outside Abu Ghraib Prison" featurettes, "Eyewitness Account from Samara, Iraq;" interview with Abdul Henderson, footage of Lila Lipscomb at the Washington D.C. Premiere and "Arab-American Comedians" on their experiences after 9/11, 9/11 Commission testimonies, and theatrical trailers. Retail will list for $28.95.

Hey Paul,

You don't care.

Dem

Dem:
Well, let me try to put this simply so you can understand: Get out and don't come back. If you disagree with what's being said leave! No one is making you stay, and I'm sure we'd all appreciate it if you left. Bybye now!

Da-yum Dem, how much do you eat that you spent your whole tax cut on a meal at Red Lobster? also, funny thing about math 1% of, oh, say a million, tends to be more than 1% of a thousand. huh.

Oh and Fahrenheit 9/11's release isn't bad news for us....to quote Frank..... "People will see him on the screen and say, 'who is that fat ugly man? Whatever his views are, I want the opposite'". So I wouldn't lose *too* much sleep over that one. Don't worry your little head about us.

Jen,

hmmmm... so if someone is a fat ugly man, your automatic thinking is that people would want to think the opposite.

Wow, you sound SMART. I want to be around you. Are the others on this board as smart as you?

Dem

Maggie,

We're talking the top 1% -- in terms of income -- who got the MASSIVE tax breaks. The rest of us, in the remaining 99%, got appreciably smaller tax breaks, percentage-wise.

Dem

Here's an open question for ANYONE on this forum:

Do you think GWB is intelligent? Yes or no.

Yeah, Dem, they did get bigger tax breaks and everyone in the 99% got lower tax cuts percentage-wise. Wanna know why?

That's how the system works. That top 1% you're moaning about? They pay more anyways. It's a graduated income tax. It's been in place for quite a while now, sorry you haven't heard of it.

Whoa, whoa, I'm feelin' a little animosity here. That was a JOKE. That means I wasn't serious, just kidding. And maybe you need to get better at reading entire sentences, because I said "in the words of Frank". Meaning Frank J., the guy who runs this site.

And you do realize that you are THE stereotype of a democrat, don't you? "Just a tax cut for the rich!" Yeah the rich are the ones who benefit from it the most, because they paid the most to begin with. How many times does someone have to say that before you understand it?

My bad, I said "To quote Frank" not "In the words of Frank"

Well Jen, YOU are the stereotypical republican!

Defending the proportionally-larger tax cuts of the top 1%. Remember, GWB's friends and family are well within that top 1%. Don't fool yourself.

Dem

Q.I always heard that the richest people in the United States do not pay much income tax because of all the loopholes. I also heard that it is the middle and upper-middle-income people that pay the most. Now I've heard different. What is the truth?

High income levels

The answer is that higher-income households pay the bulk of all federal income taxes.

In 2001, the last year for which this analysis from the Internal Revenue Service is available, the 1.3 million returns representing the top 1 percent of all taxpayers accounted for 17.5 percent of all income and paid 33.9 percent of all income taxes.

To be in the top 1 percent, you needed an adjusted gross income of at least $292,913.

In addition, their share of total taxes paid had risen steadily from 1986. It was 25.7 percent then.

So the well-off are paying more of the taxes collected, even though their average tax rate declined from 33.1 percent to 27.5 percent.

Different rates

The same analysis shows something you would hope for: The average tax rate paid declines as income declines.

The top 1 percent paid at an average rate of 27.5 percent. The top 10 percent paid at an average rate of 21.4 percent.

The top 25 percent paid at an average rate of 18.1 percent.

The bottom 50 percent, meanwhile, paid at an average tax rate of 4.1 percent, down from 5.6 percent in 1986.

If your adjusted gross income was $28,528 or less, you were in the bottom 50 percent. The bottom half also paid only 3.97 percent of all income taxes collected.

The only true remaining "loophole" for very high-income people is that they can often control how their income is received.

They may, for instance, elect to collect more of it as dividends and capital gains.

These are taxed at only 15 percent. The top one-tenth of 1 percent – those with incomes of at least $1.3 million – paid at an average tax rate of 28.2 percent in 2001.

My bet is that the 2003 figures, when released, will show only a modest decline in average tax rate for this group.

find the whole thing here:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/scottburns/columns/2004/stories/071304dnbusburns.a9f28.html

Jen, to emphasize here: The tax cut of the top 1% is PROPORTIONALLY larger. It doesn't have to be that way!!

my mistake, I meant to say DISPROPORTIONATELY l;larger of a tax cut for the top 1 %.

okay, if my numbers are correct....
lowest tax bracket went from 15% to 10% so that's a reduction of 33.3333%. Highest bracket went from roughly 39% to about 33% a reduction of 15%. from what I can quickly glean from the irs site my highest bracket new rate may be too low, 2003 was listed at 35%. Maybe Sarahk the CPA should weigh in on this?

Hey Dum....er Dem. Why don`t you get a job, then maybe you`ll have an idea of what the rest of us are talking about.

Excuse me sir/madame Joatmoaf, but as you know nothing about Dem, that comment strikes me as ridiculously unfair.

Notice that anon *cough*Dem*cough* didn't try to refute the accusation.

Hey Meatloaf,

I have a job, and a very good one at that.

But let me try to gleam into what you're suggesting for a moment: If you have a job and make good money, then you should be a Republican.

Hmmmmm... sounds like the truth is coming out. You're a Republican for MONEY reasons, disguising this with all your "I know what's right for everyone" bullshit.

Do I have it right, Meatloaf?

-Dem

Still waiting for someone -- anyone -- to answer this question:

Do you think GWB is intelligent? Yes or No.

Dem: "Do you think GWB is intelligent? Yes or no". I shall answer your question with a couple of questions: who do you think is more intelligent, Gore or Bush? Then we can compare academic records, both undergraduate and graduate level. Another question: who is more of a member of the pampered elite, Bush or Kerry? Then we can likewise compare reality.

It seems like those are the things liberals care about mostly, although I think other things are more important. But we can talk about those things if you like.

Paul,

Gore is far and away more intelligent than Bush. Bush speaks in soundbites -- that's about as far as he can go.

Whether you realized it or not, you answered my question. What I took from your response is that GWB is not very intelligent, but that there are bigger things that matter. The thing is this: I understand that core beliefs can guide election voting decisions, especially regarding issues as truly significant as abortion. And, as I mentioned in my first posting, abortion makes me sick. I truly believe that someday generations will look back on us and not believe what we allowed.

But... right now our country is in a tough spot. We have a leader who has responded to a very challenging event (9/11) with a child-like realization that we can use this to go after Iraq. Granted, Saddam is a crazy man, but did it really make sense for GWB to push for what he pushed for? He & Condi & the rest of them didn't do their jobs and look for grounding behind the claims of the WMDs. The reason they didn't look for grounding to these claims is that they were afraid to, afraid that the grounding might reveal what's come to be known, that there were no WMDs to justify the attacks.

An intelligent, sincere person would simply not have allowed this to happen.

To summarize, my concerns about GWB include: 1. That he is neither intelligent nor sincere, and 2. That his party is so focused on the financial benefit of the top 1% (i.e. the very richest), and that due to his lack of intelligence he is like a puppet in their hands.

-Dem

Gore is far and away more intelligent than Bush.

Uh-huh.  And Gore's Yale degree was in...um, what again? (snicker)

Gore is far and away more intelligent than Bush. Bush speaks in soundbites -- that's about as far as he can go.

Are you honestly trying to say that ones skill in public speaking is what determines their intelligence? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were asleep when you wrote that.

Trucido,

Bush is unable to carry on a serious, mature, intelligent conversation.

-Dem

And, Bush cannot say NUCLEAR, and that really scares me.

One more thing: Bush is running against KERRY this November, not GORE. Those are you asking questions comparing GWB and Gore may not have heard this news???

BTW, ever see Clinton hold a conversation? That man is extremely intelligent.

A. you have no idea what you're talking about. When's the last time you sat down and tried to have a conversation with him?

B. The pronunciation of nuclear by an individual is largely dependant upon the region. Another example would be "ya'll". If you're going to criticize Bush for he way he talks, you'll have to make fun of a large portion of other southerners as well.

C. Clinton is a skilled public speaker. That bears no relevance to his mental capacity. If you have two people with the same IQ, and one of them sucks at conveying their thoughts, it doesn't mean a thing.

Just as a little sidenote... The President's job is not to make speeches. Again, I honestly can't see why that talent matters. I would rather have my president DO things, rather then just say them.

Dum,

You are such a jealous bastard! What hateful thoughts! Don't you realize that the top 1% earners are either S-Corps or LLC's? You are a stupid ass. Small businesses employee most of the people in the US. The reason for the tax cuts are so business owners (see above, in case the marijuana affected your short-term)can use their hard-earned money to grow the business!(You know, buy equipment and hire more people).

Please drown yourself...

And as long as Bush keeps killing terrorists and Islamic militant cowards, I'm happy.

Carl

This is one of the most funny things I have read in a long time.

Dem, you are so far out of touch with reality it's hard to know where to begin. So I'll just concentrate on one thing. WMDs were not President Bush's sole justification for going into Iraq. From the very beginning he was very clear that there were 4 major reasons. Human rights abuses in country (including actual use of WMDs against his own people), agression against neighbors (e.g. Iran and Kuwait), WMD development programs (a proven fact), and terrorist sponsorship (e.g. known al'Qaeda training camps in Iraq).

That you continue the liberal line that Bush was unjustified with a straw man argument, only displays your ignorance and stupidity. Or else you're a 15 year old who is still not very informed about the world. Either way, you're not making much sense.

Hey Meatloaf,
I have a job, and a very good one at that.
But let me try to gleam into what you're suggesting for a moment: If you have a job and (make good money, then you should be a Republican.)
Hmmmmm... sounds like the truth is coming out. You're a Republican for MONEY reasons, disguising this with all your "I know what's right for everyone" [bulls@#t].
Do I have it right, Meatloaf?
-Dem
Posted by: Dem on August 4, 2004 09:18 AM

Who is this id-jet?!!!
I make less than $20,000 and I am a hardcore Conservative, according to dem-on I make good money, well ok ty.
Guess I don't have to commit suicide when I get my Glock after all. God knows I'd kill myself before I ever voted Demon-crat again.

First off the rich that these idiots complain about are the ones that own companies. you see by giving these people tax breaks they further enhance the effectiveness of our business and market sectors. by giving the rich tax cuts we produce more jobs...hence that is why GWB picked up the pieces of Bill Clinton quicker than any other president in history. and yes the job market went down because of clintons tax the business ideaology...i ask you if you want a job, and you want to afford life why would you want the business you work for to be taxed more? do you LIKE lower wages? Democrat ideaology is synonymous with big business ideaology and the founding fathers are turning in their graves. The founding fathers carried guns on their belts and were frontiersmen that is why Arnold called the whiney babies "girly men"...and to prove his point femenists got mad and whined and the men pouted.
you people are so backwards and think short term...you are the same one to think that GWB stole oil...if he stole oil wouldn't our gas prices be .01 or somethin crazy like that. NO he helped the country get back on his feet...therefore gas prices rose. Haliburton was hired to rebuild Iraq and was a helpful contract.
BTW my pastor is friends with GWB & Cheney, who calls in prayers to my church on a nonstop basis. he does care and you media watching, mixed-up liberals are completely wacky in your ideas and need a life.
ALSO this site is meant for humor and since democrats don't understand what that word means and need a dictionary to translate...humor does not exist in your body so i will save you the trouble WE DON'T WANT YOUR WACKY BELIEFS IN OUR COMMENTS SECTION SO GO WHINE TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY IS WACKY ENOUGH TO THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

yay Dem! you answered your own question. anyhoo, maybe you'd care to respond to the facts disproving your top 1% argument? I mean if you're going to keep throwing it out there it's time to back it up. But, you seem to prefer non sequitors.

This little middle class housewife got a very nice tax refund (can you say "vacation"?) and a tax cut in hubby's paycheck (can you say "shoes?"). Viva George Bush!!

Dear Dem, Arguing the intelligence of our President is indicative of the democratic party’s core problem. When going to war with Iraq, our President acted on the intelligence information shared and believed by the entire United Nations, who voted unanimously that Saddam Hussein was an eminent threat to all. He acted on intelligence believed by all Democrats and Republicans long before he took office. When he did act on this, suddenly every democrat who thought Saddam was a threat decided he wasn’t?

Our President was responsible for tax cuts…to the wealthiest people? If that is so, why is it that the truly poor people in our country pay no taxes at all? It is because the “rich” people who work and succeed carry that load for them. They support them by welfare and social security and affirmative action, etc. So if their taxes are cut, they are still paying more than anyone else and supporting those who pay less, so I don’t understand your reasoning.

You ask if I think our President is intelligent? I think he is one of the most intelligent men to ever serve in that office. He was smart enough to surround himself with wise, knowledgeable people such as Dick Cheney, Condi Rice,Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld. He was smart enough to realize people need to keep more of their money, not less. He was smart enough to promote a diversity of smart ethnic people without touting what a good old white boy he was for doing so (which Dems do and that is actually demeaning and not promoting at all). He was smart enough to have an opinion that is not swayed by every wind that blows. He was smart enough to have conviction and have respect for the office of President (in other words he hasn’t used it to show women how naughty he can be in the oval office). He was smart enough to support our troops by supporting our military monetarily and by honoring their service(he didn't tell them their efforts were for a bad cause or that their efforts were not appreciated by spouting crap about our mission)and by honoring our country as one of the greatest, most generous countries on this earth. He was smart enough to marry a sincere good woman. I think that is pretty damn smart!!

big business was supposed to be big government

i just got my blood burning i had to let the dem know that the argument is outdated. George Bush graduated from a prestigious college, most of these people who insult his intelligence go to state school and have long beards with a cigarette out of their mouth! Intelligence...lets argue their intelligence. I like how these things always end up in namecalling..although you guys did say dum that was kinda not helping the matter...i think people need to get a life and start having some humor. This is supposed to be a funny site...and political corectness is annoying anyways "oh lets not offend the minority" even though they like to offend people who share faith by namecalling and telling us that we don't have rights to have our faiths.
Go to Belgium if you hate america because we don't want you here

Dem, you conflate public speaking ability with intelligence.

There's all kinds of intelligence. Some folks are mechanical geniuses, some have vast musical talent, some can use the written or spoken word to great effect, some can turn an unsuccessful business into a successful one, and so on.

Bush always seems to outfox his political opponents. When his opponents called for a congressional vote on the war, he then agreed that would be a wonderful idea...right before midterm elections. When folks all over the world were explaining that he couldn't deal with Iraq until dealing with Palestine, he proposed a peace plan...that required Palestine to give up the intifada and Arafat before Israel had to do squat.

Bush has good political and organizational intelligence; he makes a solid leader. Kerry is a good wordsmith and a solid, if boring, speaker. Which kind of intelligence is more important to the office of President?

This is the most genius of all your genius writings. My sides hurt from laughing so hard. Jinkies!

And I concur, this one has GOT to be a tee shirt! But you have to do it fast, before the election. Because once Bush wins, no one is going to remember who Kerry was and the Vietnam joke won't be nearly as funny. (ok, except for me, who will laugh every time I see it.) Still, this must be made into a tee shirt. I want to wear it to the next family reunion. *that* oughta teach them for calling me the black sheep...

(kidding!)

New campaign slogan for Kerry*: I've got what it takes to take what you've got.

*Democrats in general, actually.

BOOYA!!! Chalk another one up for Trucido!

interesting side note...Kerry kind of looks like one of my great aunts...at least, that's what I thought the day her body was exhumed...
I have pickles! Anyone want a pickle?

Well said entrenpreneur and bikermommy and trucido and pretty much everyone who posted....
I'm still waiting for Dem to say "no blood for oil" because that would be really, really funny. I think pretty much everything that needs to be said, was said. So yay for everyone.

Dem: I am proud to a republican, stereotypical or not. I believe in everything republican, so your words really don't affect me. The only reason you should be angry that I called you the stereotype of a democrat, is if you recognize that there's something wrong, or off, about believing like a liberal. And if that's your reason, then I applaud you for realizing that democrats are a bit off in their "logic". I'd appreciate it if you'd get a new arguement, because your "just a tax cut for the rich" is boring me. To my fellow IMAOers: let's face it, this guy isn't leaving...apparently he likes it here, which proves that Frank reaches a diverse audience. So let's just have a good a laugh at what he posts, 'cause seriously, it's funny.

one-hundred and tenth!

Biker Mommy you ROCK!!!!

I think I will post the best of these comments on my blog at Hello Infidels!

"To do better in elections, many Democrats are trying to allow felons to vote. Next on their agenda: Allowing foreign terrorists to vote."

And you thought that was funny:

Foreign-nationals

That's disturbing.

Jen, Dem has not been back since he realized there were people here that were willing to seriously debate him. If he had wanted that, he would have gone somewhere else. But he came here, to a humorous blog, where he expected to get people angry (saying tax cuts for the rich and mentioning Moore's muckumentary ALWAYS gits them 'Publican's stirred up)so he could say we are all blinded by hatred and he could feel superior.

Well that's good. Muckadoos are a strange breed and difficult to get rid of at times.

Mike, I checked that link out and I'm pretty sure it's a pyramid scheme. If you know three Americans and can get them to vote, you too can live in a fabulous mansion and drive a rocket car! Send your check to I.M. Gullible and get started today!

Oh my gosh. So much to catch up on since I'd last checked the site. I'll respond in GWB-like soundbites, since that seems to be what most of you favor:

1. Trucido, it's not that GWB mispronounces NUCLEAR, but that he STUMBLES BADLY when saying it.

2. Trucido, Clinton exhibits a deep understanding of the issues. GWB does not, because he does not HAVE a deep understanding of the issues.

3. Trucido, I agree that I prefer for my president to DO and not to TALK. But, with DOING or ACTION first comes the need to REASON and THINK, and GWB cannot do either very well. Hence, his actions are SCARY.

4. Carl, I reject your request to drown myself. Thought about it, but just not right now.

5. Carl, there are many PEOPLE in the top 1%. Not just small businesses or LLCs. The source for your claim is incorrect.

6. Carl, you are SCARY. "As long as Bush keeps killing terrorists and Islamic militant cowards, I'm happy." Well, Carl, just so you're happy. That's what matters!

7. Paul, you crack me up. So many things you left out. Oil the main one.

8. Joshua, I didn't mean to imply that making less than $20,000 is good money. It's not at all. And clearly there are many reasons why a person is a Republican or a Liberal -- my message is that what's behind the Republican party is a desire for extreme wealth at the expense of average people.

9. Entrepreneur, could Cheney's calls for prayers be at all politically-minded? Or, perhaps not, seriously. I'm sure there are very religious Republicans & Liberals.

8. Maggie, see comments above about the top 1%. And think about it. Most of the money is in the top 1%. MOST OF THE MONEY. The money is not spread out across everyone. So large tax cuts to the top 1% save the extremely rich GOBS of money. And make GWB really, really popular with the extremely rich.

9. Bikermommy, I never said nor implied that GWB DIDN'T give tax cuts to the poor. He had to do that in order for the top 1% tax cuts to happen. This is common sense.

10. Bikermommy, I've heard that comment before, that GWB was "smart enough to surround himself with smart people." Hmmmm... could advisors have recommended any of these people to GWB??? Or did he come up with them ALL ON HIS OWN! Wow, that was really great for him to do, considering that he doesn't really read the paper or anything. Maybe his Dad or Mom suggested a few of the names... perhaps? Also, Donald Rumsfeld intelligent? Uh, no.

11. Entrepreneur, sure GWB graduated from a prestigious college. Daddy's money can buy ANYTHING, even a college diploma from a prestigious college.

12. Entrepreneur, maybe start proof-reading your writing before submitting it. There are too many disjointed thoughts to try to figure out. Rewrite and I'll read.

13. Blackswan, you really believe GWB has good political intelligence? No way in the world! He doesn't have a clue on earth.

14. Jen, oh no -- you are becoming BORED by the tax cut discussion. So what do you do? Hmmm... maybe you log off the internet and get a life!

15. Wolf's Dawn, heck I'm not superior to any of you. You think you understand me, but you don't.

Dem

speaking of logging off the internet and getting a life, Dem, i would just like to respond to #15. i don't think i understand you. i'm just sitting here thinking, wow! (s)he cannot be for real.

have a nice day.

Poor lil ol' Dem is mad for a good reason. Just like all the other liberals, he`s finally starting to get a clue.
After months of nothing but democratic tripe, the primaries, the convention, with Bush and other republicans not even hardly stumping, the democrats STILL can`t get enough votes.
They barely got a bump in the polls after the convention and that was unheard of.
So they trotted out their best and brightest, they offered 20 different angles on every issue. They gave some of the sweetest lying promises I`ve ever heard from them and their wonder boy, JoKe himself, even tryed to sound like a conservative at the convention.
Considering the effort, the results are pathetic.
Now it`s OUR turn.
The democrats are keenly aware that they couldn`t bolster peoples opinion of Kerry after all of that and they`re also aware that the republicans haven`t really even started campaigning yet.
I think they`re pissed because they FINALLY see the writing on the wall, and they don`t like it.
Step back Dems, now it`s OUR turn.
Let the pros show you how it`s done.

What's dems IP? Isn't there anything we can do to melt his computer?

Meatloaf,

The writing on the wall reads "Bush will be packing his bags."

-Dem

9. Bikermommy, I never said nor implied that GWB DIDN'T give tax cuts to the poor. He had to do that in order for the top 1% tax cuts to happen. This is common sense.

How do you know it's not the other way around? (that he had to cut taxes for the top 1% to cut taxes for the poor)

14. Jen, oh no -- you are becoming BORED by the tax cut discussion. So what do you do? Hmmm... maybe you log off the internet and get a life!

LoL I'm not the one who just sat here and wrote this huge long post....that's the pot calling the kettle black, and no that's not a racial slur you politically correct liberal. And, yes I am becoming bored with the tax cut discussion, because you are so obviously wrong and you're clinging to any tiny strand of logic that you can to make yourself seem like less of an idiot. *Newsflash*, it's not working.

Oh and btw that whole "what do you do? You log off the internet and get a life..." thing doesn't really make sense anyway. Or maybe it makes sense to wacky people not unlike yourself.

And you never did answer my question about why you got so upset when I called you the stereotype of a democrat. Could that be 'cause I struck a nerve?

Jen, I had to go back up and read our interchange, because I didn't recall conveying that I was mad at you referring to me as the stereotype of a democrat. If you're assessing my response that "You are the stereotypical Republican," that was said only out of sincerity and not out of being upset.

You assumed something that wasn't there.

But... your words are meaningless to me. I consider the source.

-Dem

Jen,

to your question inquiring if Bush could really have been targeting the tax cuts to the poor and giving the top 1% huge tax cuts just to get the tax cuts for the poor to pass, I don't think so.

But, let's hear from others on the board. Could Jen be on to something here?

-Dem

Dem: I assumed nothing. On the internet, when you use capital letters out of context, it means you're yelling. See below.

"Well Jen, YOU are the stereotypical republican!"

And just FYI, all the people you just criticized have made a lot more sense in what they've posted than you have....so you ridiculing what they said, when they said made perfect sense, is pretty stupid.

Jen,

capitalizing a word within a sentence on the internet is also a way to place emphasize THAT particular word.

Anyway, clearly we're all entitled to our beliefs. The tricky part is when we close our minds to certain assertions that may not obviously support our beliefs. The key is to try to think differently about issues every now and then. A lot can open up for you in the process.

-Dem

I don't need to open my mind to other beliefs. Everyone is entitled to their own, and that's all well and good. But you coming here and trying to convince me to change my beliefs, is a waste of time because I'm not changing what I believe for anyone. What I believe is well thought out and well researched, and I'm not changing it.

And whether or not that sentence was meant to be yelling, it looked pretty angry to me.

DEM[on]-

Oh my goodness, YOU EEJIT!!!!!

Somebody is hiding from krautstink by using another name. Oh well, not the first time you've been outed!

BTW, sorry about your penis!

Jen,

A question to ponder: Is what you believe static in time? Or can/will it ever change?

-Dem

Nope. What I believe in is based upon my spiritual beliefs, and no that will never change.

You're all mindless, reactionary sheep. Listen to me as hard as you can as I bleat into your faces: "Baaaaah!" Try as hard as I might, the only difference I can discern between the irrational hysteria of left wing nuts like Michael Moore and the irrational hysteria of right wing nuts like you is that right wing nuts tend to be less educated and a more superstitious. And of course, since you're much better armed and inclined to shoot first and question later, you're more dangerous. You have the same propensity as any Moore follower to eat up any unsubstantiated half truth that fits your narrow world-views and repeat it until it becomes the truth.

Less educated? You spelled "Baa" wrong.

He is obviously a sheeple, as he is fluent in baa-nese.

Tim,

What you don't get is this really isn't a web site for serious discussion. It's a site for making fun of liberals. Why? Because it's fun. So people like Dem come here trying to have a serious discussion, except he doesn't make any arguments, he just makes assertions without backing them up. Not with facts, not with logic, not with anything. So, a few people (me included), try some argumentation, and when he can't answer seriously, he just changes the subject and hurls insults. Well, that can be fun, it's what this site is all about after all. So tim, all I can say is you're absolutely right; be afraid, be very afraid. Because the republicans are keeping congress and the whitehouse both.

Paul,

eh, plenty of insults came from you and your fellow Republican buddies, Paul.

Perhaps you have selective hearing in your little world.

Dem

Paul, also be careful using words you don't understand. Assertions are not backed up with facts. Assertions are statements that are accepted as true within a certain context, such as a time or a place. Facts are statements that are universally accepted as true. So, contrary to what you say, assertions are never backed up with facts.

Also, to state that you and others tried some argumentation is ridiculous. I wouldn't classify your statements as arguments.

Hmmmmm... I wonder if you have trouble saying NUCLEAR, too...

-Dem

Now things are getting fun! This is becoming a site for making fun of Republicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do you have to post so many times in a row? That's kinda obsessive....

"Now things are getting fun! This is becoming a site for making fun of Republicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Whoa dude, don't hold down the exclamation mark key....it makes you look really weird and crazy. Then again......you press that key to your hearts content.

it's funny how because dem knows that we tore his ideas to pieces and they are built on sand he resorts to being rude. the poor boy couldn't read my writing because he go mad waaa. haha, Cheney and Bush pray about the decisions they make with my pastor. he knows them well, you can state what you want to but you do not know the people you just watch too much news programs and have hatred for the man because you think peace comes by throwing daisies at people. Oil...don't even start there we all know the answer to that issue but if you must go for it just be prepared to be ousted by facts. Have a nice day...and whiney peolple deserve to be called whiney that's not name calling if that hurts your feelings you must be a whiner too.

Hold on folks, I know what we need. A professional common sense inducer/insulting professional. I'm going to see if I can get LC Humble Devildog to swing over here >:-) *evil grin*

Entrepreneur,

If only you'd torn my ideas to pieces! Not one of them has been torn to pieces. All of your remarks and comments have been silly at best.

Oh, and oil is the true reason for invading Iraq. Oil is big business, and big business is at the heart of the Republican party. You are just so fooled you don't know it.

Also, Entrepreneur, you might want to take a basic writing class and learn how a few things. Reread your last post and tell me if the last "sentence" is really more than one sentence "smashed" together and hard to read? You'll probably disagree. Any English teachers out there who can comment on this one and teach Entrepreneur a basic thing or two?

Now things are getting fun! This is becoming a site for making fun of Republicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dem on August 5, 2004 01:39 AM

GRRRRRRRR........
I sure wish I had administration privilages here.

I would give these guys a good sissifying, SarahK style.

*sigh*... We've been over this before. If the reason we went to Iraq is to steal oil, then why haven't we done it by now? There's no one to stop us, and frankly, if it's going to happen I'd like it to happen soon so I won't have to pay such high gas prices.

Joshua, that's an excellent idea. Frank, you should give sarahk admin. rights so she can sissify people :-)

Also, Entrepreneur, you might want to take a basic writing class and [learn how a few things.]

lol
What?
You can't write a sentence that makes sense.

sentence what is, no not do i errrr, try not do....the force is with you young democrat learner
muh hahahahaha
i already graduated college plus i know another language
does Baka mean anything to you dem??
gambatte!!!!!! ^_^

and to think i got A's in english....my teachers must've not know what dem knows...an oh man...hahahahahah
hey dem we appreciate your comic relief while frank is gone we needed somethingto give us a good chuckly, anyonethink that this serious debating on this site should end now?or do we want more humor?

Dem,

Can you prove that what I stated was incorrect regarding the top 1%? In what tax bracket are the LLC's in then?

I'm glad I'm scary to you. You see, it's men like me that provide security to you and your gaggle of misinformed robots. It is men like me that would save your family from a burning building. It is men like me that put others before me. It is men like me that cherish life and freedom. While you spew hatred, I ensure that you have the right to. Monkeys like you raise the white flag to terrorists and succumb to the lies propagated by the lunatic Marxists and sociopaths. You would rather be taken care of then strap up and take care of things yourself. You appease rather than lead. I truly believe you should seek help with your mental disorder or be a man and grow some balls. I think you may be like Ian McNugget who uses “world peace/love, save the whales and dirty rich people” shit to get laid by hippy chicks with underarm hair. (just had to say it…LOL)

You seem to mention the “poor” a lot. How do you define poor? 2/3 of the people in the US own their own home. Does poor mean that you have to rent an apartment and only have one vehicle? Have you ever been to India(so-called democracy)? Those are “poor” people. Please explain with documentation, if you can.

Just a few more questions:

1. Do you eat lots of bananas?
2. Are you a Christian?
3. Are you afraid of OBL?
4. Did you have your lunch money taken away at school by the bully and did nothing about it except get a lecture from Mommy that fighting is bad and that you should treat your enemies with kindness?

Oh man... One of the best KTE's in my opinion. This one 'ought to be considered for a shirt.

baby Jesus cries....Hilarious

Okay guys, the dem is entitled to his opinions, which will obviously not be changed via the comment sections in a Republican website. Well Dem, ours won't either. Isn't your time more valuable? Why are you trying to sell your schtick to people that obviously aren't buying it? I propose this: Either start being funnier or start being quieter, your choice. You're ruining my comic relief. Damn asshats...

Interesting that Dems points are about attacking Bush and blocking with Clinton comments. I think he agrees that Kerry is a turd of a candidate.

Also, lets not forget that regarding taxes, its all about INCOME, not how rich you are. You can have billions in the bank but not necessarily have a high income. That 1% the left are always talking about getting tax cuts, starts at $300,000, how is it possible for them to receive hundreds of thousands in refunds as you allege earlier?

>Oh, and oil is the true reason for invading Iraq.

So its not about putting the middle east in a pinch between afghanistan and Iraq? its not about serving as a warning to other ME countries? It's not about toppling Saddam so we can remove US troops from Saudi which was a big beef of OBLs and the main reason for 9/11? Its not about a nutter with WMD capabilities who shares the same goals as terrorists, What happened to all those factories that were dismantled before, during and after the war that the UN reported about? Why are weapons turning up in scrap yards in Europe and neighboring countries? Its not about the fact that 9/11 has exposed the levels that US foreign policy has affected the ME, something this ADministration has started reversing?

No, its about oil, because thats what Mikey Moore and the left tells you, and thats about as complex as the situation can get for you. Your train of thought has stopped at the first station that is anti-Bush because it fits your own world view. The bankrupt logic of the left is really astounding. Since Bush invaded Iraq, and then Kerry got the nomination, then am I also to assume that Bush invaded Iraq so Kerry would get the nomination? Yes, thats how stupid the lefts arguments are.

Oh, and one last point, if 90% of the people supported this war, don't you think the Democrats would be right up there saying what a great idea this war is? As it is, they are shifting their opinions with the polls which basically means that they are standing for whatever they think will get them elected. Republicans on the other hand , for the most part, have stood very firmly behind the war and stayed with their convictions.

Amen. That "the war is for oil" comment is probably the stupidest thing that Dem ever said. Wait, everything (S)he says is stupid.

Well, today the comments might have been even better than yesterday!

Let's see... this time I'll start from the bottom-up.

Jen, keep 'em coming, babe. Your attacks are so brilliantly conceived and original. Oh, to have the power of the pen you have!

DelphiGuy, don't forget that the majority of Americans now oppose the war. Sure, we were all fooled at the beginning with the so-called intelligence that GWB blindly accepted and advertised and emphasized. It was likely a "wink wink nod nod here-you-go-GWB," with a "wink wink nod nod wow-thanks-i'll-have-someone-read-these-for-me-and-tell-me-what-it-says... in-soundbites-of-course."

Also, Delphi, it's very interesting how you STRONGLY hint that WMDs existed BEFORE the inspectors. This leads me to believe that the existence of WMDs is a REQUIREMENT for you to justify the war in Iraq and Bush's behavior. Well, WMDs have been disproven. So, time for a new excuse for supporting GWB's behavior about wanting so vehemently to go to war.

Kevin, chill dude! But, sure, I'll try to be funnier. With the material being provided on this site, it's not that hard.

Hey, Kevin, I'll start with this request: I'd like to remind folks that I'm still looking for people to comment on Jen's idea that Bush only offered the tax cut to the rich so that his primary target group, the poor, could get the tax cut. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Carl, when I say poor I'm referring to the increasing number of middle-class people who are losing their fine-paying jobs and ending up with jobs making $10 or $12/hour. All because of GWB financially favoring the top 1% income earners and the rich corporations run by the top 1% income earners.

Carl, yes -- the top 1% start at $300K as you say, but the ones making GOBS more than that are the ones who blow the curve and whose incomes are so high that their tax cuts are the ones that leave all of the rest of the tax cuts at the noise level in terms of having any significant impact.

And Carl, oil does have a lot to do with it. Think about it, do you really think that GWB and his buddies would be obvious about it?

Lastly, Carl, man you REALLY REALLY scare me now. You are so stuck on yourself that it's pitiful. Maybe the world DOES revolve you as you seem to imply. And to answer your questions: No, Yes, Huh? and No.

People, people, people -- the thing is this: You can be a Republican or a Democrat and not agree with EVERYTHING in the party! As I mentioned in one of my first postings on this site, abortion makes me sick. But, it's not the only issue at stake in this election. I think that GWB has put us very uncomfortably at risk of significant attack. I'm not just saying that either. So many countries absolutely hate us. They don't see what we did in Iraq as positive. They see it as an unprovoked attack. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Had they, I would say that we didn't go after them hard enough.

Don't call me babe. I'm glad to hear that you think I'm witty. Now I can sleep easier at night.

[Maybe the world DOES revolve you as you seem to imply.]

.......more typos from Dr. Dem[on]

Since he soooooooooooooooo
much smarter than the rest of us, I like pointing out his/her insignificant errors.

Unless (s)he meant that it "moves" Carl.

In which case, that is just stoooooooopid!

FCUK you Dem[on], be gone! Out I say!
Dem[on] coooooooooooooommmmmmmmmeeeeee
ooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!

In jay-ssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssss'
name!

Come out Dem[on]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will have you know, sir, that if you put a bunch of gnomes in one place, they have the full capability to kill at least 5 or so terrorists and the occasional green party candidate.

Dem,

for special message click here.

Your friend, at Hello Infidels!

That is so funny, it was the word of the day at Mirriam-Webster online.

Man, I crack myself up.

lol

I'm with Miss Beca here, you make this a t-shirt, and I will make you rich man, or atleast give you enough money to buy that Jag.

* While the Democratic leadership is currently devoid of any real leadership or substance, they may try and make up for that with important-looking hair.

you deserve to be worshipped.

Joshua,

your site is incredibly funny! Knocking Darwin in 2004 is hilarious! Good job.

-Dem

Check this out:

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4031

Dem,

You are so stuck on yourself that it's pitiful. Maybe the world DOES revolve you as you seem to imply.

I didn't say "I", I said "men", which is plural. So your little panty rant about me being self centered is laughable at best.

You sound just like a drowning leftist taking your last breath! "I know you are but what am I?"

LOL Hahaha You dumbass. You see, I put God, my family and my country before myself. How good of you to think of those earning 10-12 bucks an hour as poor. BTW, they won't pay any income taxes.

while there are poor people in this world that can't help themselves the majority can.
my friend steve dong came to the US with 23 bucks in his pocket and is now a millionaire, and i am following his footsteps. Don't complain to me about poor tax brackets just because you don't want the responsibility of doing something for yourself. the rich pay close to 98% of taxes in america as it is, their taxes don't need raised...and i worked at applebees while expanding my business and to be quite honest taxes were better for me than they were under william. so get a life.

Entrepreneur,

Great "I've got mine, let anyone else not as fortunate or as smart as me drown" attitude.

Your argument is that since your friend Steve & I can achieve becoming millionaires, all people must be able to. Believe what you want.

-Dem

Carl,

I'm not drowing at all. I make a great salary.

Sure, you put God, your family, and your country ahead of yourself. But what about people who don't think the same as you? Where do they fall?

-Dem

stay broke for all i care the government is not formed to give americans money

democrats need to learn the phrase "responsible for their actions" as frank makes fun of....plus they always come onto blogospheres trying to "convert" to their way of thinking. most of the time we conservatives if you care to call us that know whta we believe, love a debate, and will do it but when we do it's always them getting made...anyways i know i'm right about my beliefs, i am a christian man who reads the word, and my ideas are based on that...and i have that freedom. i do not infringe on a persons beliefs but i like debating that's fine...just remember this is a republican make fun of democrats for humor site so conversions will be none. (read I Hate Frank)

"How good of you to think of those earning 10-12 bucks an hour as poor. BTW, they won't pay any income taxes." -Carl P

Then why the heck am I paying taxes?
Dang I need to write my congressman.

I didn't think I was all that poor, but then again I guess $9 dollars an hour is poverty.

Excuse me while I go get my food box at Loaves and Fishes, along with my powdered milk and gov't cheese.

mmmmm...plastic cheese.

Entrepreneur,

Why do you hate Frank?

-Dem

Dem, you sir are a butt-nugget.

Dem - Why should the focus be on the "Tax break for the rich"? Didn't you get one too? I did, and I'm not in the highest earning percentile. It only stands to reason that the highest payers of taxes should get the highest break in taxes. Those of us unfortunate enough to not be in the top bracket actually benefit more from our tax cut than the ultra-wealthy. You see, and extra grand to someone making 60K matters a more than an extra 100K to someone making millions. I don't believe that the person making millions should be penalized for his/her success. Not always, but oftentimes, those making that kind of money have a talent or skill that the market has placed a certain dollar value on. They EARN the money they make. I don't ask that they pay more to subsidize me or others with less earning power. The doctors out there earning 300K, are doing just that - they're earning it. If I want to make 300K, I simply go to medical school and become a doctor. If I'm not smart enough, too bad. If I'm too lazy, too bad. If I'm not willing to make the sacrifices in terms of time, tough. The ones that are smart enough and willing to work hard shouldn't have to pay extra for me. Intelligence aside, there are plenty of jobs out there that pay pretty well for hard work. Those working at those jobs may not get rich, but they can be comfortable. Wealth is not an entitlement for all. I'll spare you a lengthy economics lesson, but everyone being rich wouldn't work, trust me. We already allow those less fortunate to get a higher education through grants and loans and other government subsidies. If you are defending the few Americans that are actually out of options and have no hope because of some disability, I applaud you. If you are defending the slackers and whiners, please kindly shut up. I'll not stand idly by and allow the government to redirect my earnings to those that choose not to work. We have enough Democrat-sponsored assistance programs out there now. Most of them simply create a permanent welfare class.

Now please start being funnier like you promised or please be quiet!

Kevin

By the way, I'll weigh in on the quotes too. The hair comment is pretty great. See Dem, that's the kind humor I enjoy at this site. Now sharpen your wit and make me laugh, dammit!

dem,
Start a blog of your own.

ooo ooo ooo New contest idea....

Everyone think of a name for Dem's blog.

This oughta be good.
hehehe

How 'bout "Viva la France"?

"Muckadoo like me" or "A day in the life of a liberal"

Or..."Thoughts of the politically challenged"

Dem is in a tight spot. He can't vote for Kerry, he hates Bush, so if he throws his vote away, it's a vote for Bush! At least that is what the Dem's say.

To quote one of our Rottweiler friends, "A vote for Kerry means you should have been an abortion."

Let's see, didn't have the opportunity to converse with you all, my new friends, last night, so I'll catch up here:

1. Wolf, I'll be voting for Kerry. I think Kerry is good. He is intelligent and has a brain. I don't agree with him on abortion, but I do agree with him on many other issues.

2. Here's a new quote: "A vote for Bush is a vote for America to be attacked in the future."

3. Kevin, you may have to start looking elsewhere for your laughs. Just a fair warning. Prepare yourself.

4. Jen, why do you call yourself a Muckadoo?

5. Kevin, when you mention that there are so many jobs out there that pay well for hard work -- my response: Yes, there are. And there are people in these jobs working hard. But when the employee closes shop in the U.S. and moves operations to India or China because the labor rate is so much lower, it doesn't matter how hard that person has been working -- their job is gone. Now I'm not saying we need laws to stop this sort of thing, but there could be INCENTIVES for not doing this sort of thing. This is where GWB doesn't come through. And the reason he doesn't come through is that the people he really cares about are NOT the workers who are working hard, but rather the corporations and the CEOs who trust GWB to do what it takes so that they can make as much $$$ as possible. So, it's not about "work hard and you'll do okay" -- honestly, those days are GONE. Today, to succeed, you need more than that. But, all I'm saying is that the government can do their part toward the whole issue. This wouldn't be unprecedented for the government to be involved in issues such as jobs and where jobs are located and such. What do you think?

6. You refer to "Democrat-sponsored assistance programs" in aa negative light. Do you think there's a place for ANY assistance programs? This is a real question -- you seem to imply that there isn't but I want to understand your thinking better.

-Dem

Dear Dem-wit,
Please read the folowing posts which are above.

This should clear up any confusion.
Jen was naming your new blog, Dem-wit.

dem,
Start a blog of your own.

ooo ooo ooo New contest idea....

Everyone think of a name for Dem's blog.

This oughta be good.
hehehe
Posted by: Joshua on August 6, 2004 07:29 PM

How 'bout "Viva la France"?
Posted by: kevin on August 6, 2004 08:45 PM

"Muckadoo like me" or "A day in the life of a liberal"
Posted by: Jen on August 6, 2004 09:11 PM

Or..."Thoughts of the politically challenged"
Posted by: Jen on August 6, 2004 09:12 PM

>>>2. Here's a new quote: "A vote for Bush is a vote for America to be attacked in the future."

oh yeah! cause we were never attacked before.... oh wait.

http://signaleer.blogspot.com/2004/07/41-reasons-why-i-support-war-on-terror.html

6. You refer to "Democrat-sponsored assistance programs" in aa negative light. Do you think there's a place for ANY assistance programs? This is a real question -- you seem to imply that there isn't but I want to understand your thinking better.

Oh you mean the socialistic programs

Well, in that case. No! Get rid of them all, if then Dems want to sponsor these on their own great, but don't take my money for your socialistic programs.

National Endowment of the Arts.
What art? A crucifix submerged in urine? You call that art?

Or how about the Dem sponsored infanticide via Planned Parenthood?

Just to start.

Joshua,

so if there some assessed bad apples among the programs, throw them all out? Is that what you mean?

-Dem

Maggie,

I'm referring to a major attack, like a nuclear bomb attack, of a magnitude far greater than anything else we've ever experienced. The kind of attack that would be proportional to the increased level of hatred the much of the world now has for the U.S.

-Dem

Again, simple economics. If it's cheaper to make elsewhere, why would a business owner not make it cheaper. If I can buy a loaf of bread for $2 here, or cross the street and buy a loaf for $1, I'm crossing the street. Protecting our work force from the rest of the world's cheap labor is not an intelligent long-term solution to job security. How long do we do this? Seen the state of social security? It wasn't supposed to be an everlasting program but try to make changes to it and see the firestorm it brings. Americans feel they are entitled to it just like they would if we started paying for the gaps in our labor costs vs. overseas labor. Wait a second, aren't you asking the government to pay businesses so they can in turn give it to the workers and keep the jobs here? If that's the case, why not give it directly to the worker? I don't know, maybe we could call it a tax cut??? As for the removal of all aid programs, no I don't want that. But I would like to limit them. Find someone at your local government sponsored job placement office. Ask them how many people they think are truly trying to find gainful employment in an effort to get off of government aid and how many are trying desperately to stay on it. Seriously, find one and ask them. I have, hence my stance on giving my taxes to these programs. Lastly, as you can tell, I'm a firm believer in survival of the fittest. You can still make it through hard work and perserverance.

Just look at how well Kerry has done with very little in the way of marketable skills. It must be his tenacity, or his hair...

>>>I'm referring to a major attack, like a nuclear bomb attack, of a magnitude far greater than anything else we've ever experienced. The kind of attack that would be proportional to the increased level of hatred the much of the world now has for the U.S.

Well, make up your mind honey. you should have made that part of your slogan.
"A vote for Bush is a vote for America to be attacked in the future, and I mean something worse than we've ever seen before because the world hates us more than they did before."

Whatever, they hated(I prefer disliked) us before we started the war. There was a series of articles in the Wilson Quarterly on the subject of how the world views the u.s. in their Spring 2001 issue. (feel free to email me if you would like to read them) It's not anything new and whoever says they can fix it just by being elected president is smoking crack and ignoring history.

But Maggie, GWB has made it worse. MUCH worse.

Kevin,

with all due respect, there is one critical flaw in your thinking: Your comment, "You can still make it through hard work and perserverance" --> NOT TRUE ANYMORE.

The middle-class jobs are leaving the United States. Plain and simple. The gap is going to be large -- on one end, there will be McDonald's-type jobs, and on the other end, highly-paid knowledge workers whose jobs aren't able to outsourced to countries paying lower wages. Granted, some jobs constrained due to geography (e.g. doctors and nurses) will stay put, but even medical laboratory-type jobs are in the process of going offshore.

My point is NOT that the government must step in and stop this. But, the government provides tax breaks and incentives to companies for many actions assessed to be for the overall good of the country. Is a company A were willing to invest in its own country's people when it could save a buck by going offshore, why couldn't this be recognized and realized by the government in the form a tax break to the company?

Within action being taken, the offshoring of jobs will continue without blinking an eye, because there are no financial incentives for companies to take under consideration. This corresponds 100% to what you said above -- that the bottom-line is what drives companies, period.

Getting back to my original point at the top of this posting, "hard work and perseverence" do not define the magic ingredients toward survival in our economy. To survive and thrive, a person needs to fall into the ranks of someone whose job will not be subject to offshoring -- and whose job is valuable enough to earn the person a decent salary. (e.g. not a McDonald's job!) Historically, though, there just aren't that many of these jobs to consume everyone -- and, furthermore, not everyone is cut out for such jobs. There are people who just aren't super intelligent -- and for those people the future is increasingly bleak as the economy translates into two factions, the "have's" and the "have-nots," essentially.

You can argue "tough" -- it's all about survival of the fittest, and if you aren't among the fittest, too bad. Work at McDonald's. Don't have enough money to buy health care for your kids or to care for them properly. And while we're on this note, women sometimes get pregnant without explicitly aiming to do so. When a family is extremely poor and unable to provide for their current children, when faced with a surprise pregnancy, abortion becomes an extremely sad consideration.

So, Kevin, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. In a "survival of the fittest" economy and reality, your claim that people "can still make it through hard work and perseverence" is a PIPE DREAM because it has no grounding, period.

I feel that abortion is horrible, but based on where our economy is heading, it becomes more and more inevitable in the real lives of real people who are among the increasing number of "have-nots."

Please see that the Republican party is catering to religious people, but not in terms of the future of an economy in which a broad majority of people live decent lives. It's a Paradox at best.

-Dem

Dem, I'm not super-intelligent and my job isn't going anywhere. I make over 60K a year with lots of promotion opportunities. I'm definitely not wealthy, but I live a comfortable life, financially speaking. I'm not the exception, I haven't been gifted with extraordinary breaks. I simply work hard and utilize my extraordinary charm (easy, easy -- that was sarcasm).
When speaking of assistance programs that I do support, I would include higher education. College should be easier to pay for. Lower and middle income families need to be able to send their kids to get a degree so they can either get out of the lower income bracket or at least stay in the middle class one. Giving businesses money to offset costs due to a high priced labor force is a short term solution at best. The feasibility of continuing to provide that aid to businesses is the real pipe dream. Everything you said in your post rings true if you are short-sighted enough in your solutions. I prefer to not ask my children to continue to pay for poorly conceived patchwork legislation. The sad fact is that labor is cheaper elsewhere and businesses will make decisions based on profit. Giving them tax breaks will simply prolong the inevitable, but while doing so it will increase taxation and delay the work force shift that is required. I'm not saying that I like things the way they are, but the band-aid solution you suggest is just that - a band-aid.

As for abortion, there are numerous options out there. The number of people willing to adopt is huge. Abortion is a chioce that is made based on personal belief and religious upbringing. I don't think our original argument about whether or not to give tax breaks to companies that keep employing American workers will change ones ideology. As for those that do get pregnant when they don't want to, don't get me started. I learned all about condoms and birth-control in high school. Kids these days that are getting pregnant know about condoms. People will always make bad decisions that have negative consequences, I just don't think I should have to pay for those mistakes. I have a hard enough time paying for my own.

Last thing -- no comment on the hair comment? I thought that was kind of funny...

Man, this is becoming a stinking msg board, and no fun at all.

I come here to laugh.

Lets just ignore the Dem-wit and get on with laughing.

Sheesh.......

isn't john kerry's wife one of the afformentioned busines owners? i htink you miss the point businesses do what they want regardless of the president. although policies affect their profitability. if a democrat taxes them they will cut jobs and you my friend will have voted for that. going overseas is not a bad thing there are plenty of jobs in america.

yeah you're right lets ignore him i mean we're here for humor not debates...who goes into a conservative blog and argues for a losing cause anyways? ridiculous...also he corrects people grammer and sentences, this isn't english class most of us have long since graduated college and care little of that. Jen you are by far the funniest commenter i especially like when you told dem not to call you hun hehehe...classic.

Dem,

You no longer have a right to speak about abortion as if it makes you sick. You've brought it up numerous times as if by not supporting abortion it makes you human.

Abortion activists argue that a fetus is not life. It is as hard to change their mind on this as it is to change mine on that fact that it is a life.

John Kerry is for abortion, partial birth abortion and against Lacy's Law. AND, he says that he believes a life starts at conception!!! That shouldn't just make you sick, that should make you VOMIT!!!!!

I'm not suprised that you are a man of no convictions.

BTW, a republican in my state is for abortion so I didn't vote for his sorry ass. I don't comprise when it comes to murder.

Thank you, Wolf's Dawn.

Much love for you, much love.
Thank you.
I will be posting your comments in the near future.

You just inspired me to do an anti-abortion article and boy is it gonna hit hard.

I think I will title it "Baby Skin Lampshades".

What do you think? That should get there freakin' attention!

If I were a violent man I would go and declare open hunting season on them [wascally wabbitts].

I better go before the FBI gets here.
See ya.

Wolf's Dawn,

Turns out there is already agreat article called 'Baby Skin Lampshades' by Gregory Koukl

Maybe I will just do some links instead to these very poignant articles.
Come by Hello Infidels! later I should have all the links up.

Well, reading through the posts, I was going to stop, having said my mind and all. But, when reading Wolf's Dawn's posting, telling me I have I have no right to speak about abortion as if it makes me sick: Well, look, Wolf Dawn, it does make me sick and I can speak about it if I want to. I have as much of right to post here as you do. So you can tell me however many times you feel like it that I cannot speak about it. It won't matter.

What should make YOU sick and vomit is the fact that GWB is ultimately responsible for the ruining of the lives of a good number of people in this country. And once ruined, who knows what next steps such people will take to "survive." Because, as Kevin has stated, it's all about "survival of the fittest" -- the hell with those who aren't among the fittest?

You & I agree that abortion is horrible. However, I refuse to be taken in my the Republican politicians on this matter, because there are even bigger fights to be fought at this time that will have longer-lasting impacts on our world.

I am a man of convictions. The difference between you and me is that I acknowledge that the two major candidates are each flawed. You, however, and the rest of the folks on this board are so one-sided it's crazy. Just because GWB does something or the Republican says something, it's Gospel to you people. To that I suggest, just THINK for a few minutes. Life is not a TV show where things are black and white. Our culture wrongly suggests that it should be, with an overwhelming emphasis on win vs. lose.

-Dem

Yawn. Like I said, I know what I believe and Republican or not I vote for what I believe. There is only one Gospel in my life and I don't need anybody to interpet it for me. Babies are a gift from God. They have no voice, they have no defense, they have no choice. You compromise them by saying Kerry has other fine points. What is fine about a murderer of the innocent? If Kerry believed that a fetus is not a life, then he would be misguided. Since he says it is in fact a baby then he is saying it's okay for women to kill babies. Keep on saying abortion makes you sick while you vote for a baby killer and you can explain your stupid reasons to Jesus when you see him.

Two Hundredth!

Psssst....

Ok, this may not be funny... but surely relevant. Dem's have lost their stranglehold on American politics over the last 15 years for a variety of reasons:

1) Talk radio, Fox news, and the internet have brought balance - of a sort - to the media. We still have to endure non-stop liberal bias in virtually all our newspapers and "free" TV stations - but at least we can tune in to logic in these new media outlets. Sadly for dems... logic can get to be contagious - dems hear Fox News and Limbaugh mercilessly bashed, and avoid it for awhile... then start listening, and before they know it, they are hearing... sensible, obvious stuff! No wonder dems are trying so hard to rein in Murdoch, and are always looking for ways to "get" Limbaugh and the others. (Wonder how that Al Frankin show is going... )

2) The middle class has been consistently EXPANDING (not shouting... just emphasizing). Sadly so for the democratice elite, whose band of misfit-toy constituents depends on an entitlement mindset, and a steady supply of disenfranchized "minorities". For some odd reason, once even AVERAGE people correlate good results with hard work, the messages of the conservatives become - shall we say - obvious?

3) Bill Clinton. Living as I do in Minnesota, I had the bittersweet pleasure of watching the majority of my otherwise intelligent (but misguided) LIBERAL friends and family walk COMPLETELY away from character as an important trait in our leader( s). Ok, so it was a lot worse than that... these folks put themselves in the position of saying that it was perfectly fine for our president to lie - and to encourage OTHERS to do so (didn't they have a different feeling about this behavior when it was Nixon?) as long as it was only about sex.... becuase in the finest of European traditions, we EXPECT our strong, male, testerone-filled leaders to be boinking anything with a pulse. When I figured out ... just before the end of Clinton's first term - what he and Hillary's self-serving agenda was doing to decimate their party, it almost seemed like sensible STRATEGY to let him/her continue to gut their own party for their own personal gain (and Oh, how they have gained financially - he almost can't stop talking about it). And make no mistake they are still the key players... anybody see Bill on Letterman? One of the craftiest "i-support-this-guy-but-not-REALLY" performances i have ever seen. And true.. the man IS GLIB. But so are car salesmen, and con artists.

4) Abortion. (Stay with me on this...) I believe there is a fairly strong correlation between parents' and their childeren's political affilication (although some us CAN and have thrown off the shackles of our upbringing...). I also believe that more liberals supporting abortion MOST likely translates into more liberals HAVING abortions. So the 40 million or so abortions in the past 40 years likely maps to a relatively significant, self-imposed reduction in "viable" democratic voters. In some cases, two generations of potential voters will never have the chance to participate in the misguided practice of trying to "share wealth" by taxing income and laundering it through that oh-so-efficient laundry we call the ... Federal Government. Ya want starch on these...?

And lets not concede the farm away completely on Bush's speaking ability - I have no doubt that two or three of his speeches following 9/11 will go down as HISTORIC, both in their content, AND their delivery. While we were "shocked" at the axis of evil notion... it turns out to be just about... spot on. Through his resolute leadership - despite the near-nil possibility of ANY political gain - President Bush has galvanized the entire nation around the issues of terrorism... and Islamic fundamentalism. And at this time in history, we need clear, resolute, focused leadership to stay the course, and finish doing the world's dirty work - again. Lets not forget what a "simpleton" Ronald Reagan was... and yet, that wall is now long-since torn down.

Wait... this board is supposed to be funny?

Ok.... I'll have to make something up... how's this...

A democratic soccer mom takes her 8 year old to the doctor with green beans in his nose, corn on the cob in one ear, and a hot dog in the other, and says to the republican doctor... "Doc, I just can't figure out what's going on with little Johnnie here".

Cutting right through the "complexity" of the situation the doctor quickly pronounces to the worried mother...

"He's not eating right".

P.S. One note to Dem - I was briefly concerned about outsourcing too - until the tiniest effort at research on my part informed me that far more jobs are INSOURCED (by companies owned in foreign countries) than are OUTSOURCED to India, China, the Philippines, etc. So while we need to stay on top of these trends... and find effective ways to incent companies (by far the most positive attribute of taxes is the ability on the part of the government offer ways to tax certain people/companies exhibiting certain desirable behaviors.... LESS) to keep employing/training American workers... we have NO major policy issue in this area right now. I suppose the 5.5% unemployment would be another indicator of this - but that would just open the door for dem to prattle on with her Democratic talking points...

P.P.S. Lets take a vote... is THIS dem a male or female... or perhaps an overzealous appendage of the Moore war-room?

you have some great points i'm impressed!

why are we still commenting on this very old post?
hahaha

First time visiting here.(won't be my last) Funny stuff. Even when it's unintentional. Like dem's posts.
Just gonna comment on these two things.

1...Bush speaks in soundbites -- that's about as far as he can go.
2...BTW, ever see Clinton hold a conversation? That man is extremely intelligent.
I'll just say this.
Give me an honest stutterer over an articulate liar anyday.

Oh,and Jen,will you marry me? ;)

1... Bush speaks in soundbites.

Actually, I had heard the mainstream media accord just the opposite. Bush is better in speeches, because these are tied in to deep principles - he actually doesn't do as well as democrats in sound-byte mode because - well - talking points tend to need to be politicaly expedient - and are usually devoid of core principles.

Btw entrepreneur - this is kind of a long (and late) post, but I just found it. Great stuff... good to see other thoughtful people - with a sense of humor! are out there.

It's been extremely entertaining reading all of dem's quaint efforts to get others to drink the kool-aid...

We're happy to have you aboard. Look forward to running into you in the future.

Jen's mine!

I shoulda known Jen was taken.

OK...High noon Saturday. Pistols at ten paces.

Dem can stand in the middle and count.

actually i'm just kidding hehe but i wish just as much hehe

dem's against guns so that should be easy

Katt -- nice work with the shootout! Funny stuff!

Dem-wit is a eunuch

So jen is available? hmmmmm

"Katt -- nice work with the shootout! Funny stuff!"

You thought I was jokin'? hehehe

"Dem-wit is a eunuch"

I think we have our answer to the question of dem's gender.

I wonder if it performed the operation itself?

I think I've found a home here.

If I was a lib I'd prob'ly be feelin' all warm and fuzzy about that.

But I ain't...so I don't.

I'm _not_ cryin'. I just have somethin' in my eye. And allergies.

hehe she may be but there'll be a fight for her hehe!!

The reason the democrats chose the donkey is a symbol of kick A** they are going to kick Bush out the whitehouse

Hey singingman, following your logic, wouldn't the symbol then be a boot, not an ass. The ass is the one getting kicked, again, following your "logic". Rest easy my republican brethren, this is your average democrat's wit. They won't even be able to find the polls on election day.

Your president has embarassed your country more than a phone call would from the USA to France on a giant phone that all the Republicans could speak into, saying "The USA is the greatest country on Earth!" Are you too stupid to be embarassed? What percentage of Americans could even find Iraq on a map?
Jesus was a communist.
Bite my health-care covered, gay-marrying Canadian ass. Nazi Retards

Schlog: Why should the USA be concerned about what France says? France is just trying to make themselves feel important by showing they can stand up to the United States. France is no longer a major world power as evidenced by the fact that the state of Georgia has a greater GDP than the nation of France. Perhaps the President should get Georgia's approval before consulting France.

BTW, Jesus was anything but a communist! There is no communist regime that supports free practice of religion, something that seems incompatible with Jesus. He did not support homosexuality (read Romans 1:20 -) although he did support marriage. As far as health care, Canada's health care system is far from as good as the US system. Example? Canada has far longer waiting periods for medical treatment, and so little modern equipment as to be tragic. The entire country has fewer MRI machines than many US cities.

Lastly, why is it that all liberals when confronted with logical arguments immediately resort to name calling or other ad hominen attacks?

Professor -- they respond by name calling because they are stupid, smelly (see Michael Moore), long-haired, socialist, pot smoking hippies. Not to mention the fact that they are ignorant, fat (see Michael Moore), repugnant, assinine, anti-American, jackasses. Oh yeah, they're also stupid. And stupid.
Bt we like them, they make us look so good.

you dum basses still commenting on this thread?

hey Joshua, you dumb ass, you still commenting on this thread?

lol@kevin...
Only because it keeps coming up on my referer list on my blog, dum bass. not dumb ass...

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