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November 19, 2004

Our Military: Letters to Michael Moore

Posted by Frank J. at 03:27 PM | View blog reactions | Comments (43)

Michael Moore asked for letter from veterans, and some responded and were nice enough to forward me their letters.

Dear Mr. Moore,
I had the opportunity and the HONOR - yes the immense HONOR - to serve with the First Marine Expeditionary Force in the opening of the War in Iraq last year as a member of Weapons Platoon, Charlie Company, 4th LAR Batallion. I can think of nothing more worthwhile that I have done in my life, other than getting married to my beautiful wife, than serving the American and Iraqi people in the cause of freedom. The Iraqi people were happy to see us, yes - happy. There lives have been improved a thousand times in the time since Sadaam has been removed from power. In the broken English that most Iraqis speak, they spoke the words of a grateful nation to us as liberators. I continue to serve in the Marine Reserve while finishing college at Brigham Young University.
I just wanted to know that of all the Marines I have served with, only one had anything nice to say about you or Mr. Kerry and that the United States Marines, from my experience, overwhelmingly support President Bush. Rest assured, however, that they loathe you, Mr. Kerry, and your disgusting Anti-Americanism.

You are a disgusting, dirty, lying, corpulent liberal, and you look as though you have not seen a shower or bar of soap in years. The American people have spoken for four more years of tax cuts and dead terrorists rather than turning back to the ignorance of the nineties. Thank God (Yes, I am a member of the religious right that believes in God) that the American people have chosen against the inept Mr. Kerry and ignored the lies of your wretched ant-America propaganda film. I noticed while watching the Osama video released before the election that he endorsed the same candidate you did. How interesting. Enjoy the next 4 years, Mr. Moore.

Semper Fidelis and God Bless the USA!!!
Corporal Grant Michael Jensen,
United States Marine Corps Reserve

Dear Sir:

I proudly served our country from October 1986 through November 1990 and did my small part in helping win the Cold War at Misawa AB Japan. As I was in the intelligence business I cannot say what I did, but when I say that I did my small part it was just that; just as much as anyone else. While in the military, everyone with whom I served believed as strongly as I did about the rightness of what we were doing which was finally ridding the world of totalitarianism under our leaders, Presidents Reagan and Bush.

I do not belong to any political party and normally vote third party. However, this time I voted to re-elect President Bush solely on his foreign policy against the barbarians trying to erase Western civilization. With no intended slight, I believe your passionate work is completely wrong-minded and is creating Republicans faster than anything else in existence. If you tempered your enthusiasm with better manners and truthfulness you would be taken more seriously and would better your cause. Despite my revulsion over some of your work, I wish you nothing but the best. And if you run into Maureen Dowd, please inform her that writing while riding her menstrual cycle like Evil Kneival makes the left look even worse than you have managed to do. Good luck and may God bless you.

Howard E. Halvorsen
Chester, VA

p.s. I do not mind my name being used, but knowing dozens of fanatical liberals as friends and their attitudes, I would appreciate it if my email were not given out to prevent countless amounts of hate mail. Divisiveness, I have discovered, is disagreeing with a liberal regardless of how much tact is used.

Mr. Moore,
I heard you wanted to hear from Veterans. Well that's terrific, because I'm one, and I've always thought you should hear from me.

Here's the deal. I don't understand how people on the left don't understand why we veterans don't trust you. What is hard here?
Everytime our military takes action in some place you roll out the banners and take to the streets saying how the US shouldn't be doing that.

Well, this time you decided that your head hurt from getting hit everytime you opposed our troops, so you decided to put stickers all over your Yugo's exclaiming that "I Support Our Troops." There's two things wrong with that: 1) support the troops by supporting the mission, and 2) since when did you consider them "Our" troops? Isn't that the whole point of the "Not in our name" garbage?

Its like you want to be thought of as really liking the troops but despising what they do (hey didn't Clinton say that?). The purpose of the military (as someone far smarter than I put it) is to kill people and break things. That's what they do. And thank God that our military can kill people and break things far better than anyone else's. That means we don't have to take crap from people like Bin Laden.

But, I'm really amazed that a person who is obviously bright enough to be very successful at whatever you do could be such a conspiracy nut. I mean really. On one hand, I'm supposed to believe that George W. Bush is dumber than a stump, and on the other I'm supposed to believe he's capable of all these grandiose schemes and connivings. It just doesn't make sense.

And if we put aside that involvement of George W. Bush, and just say he's a pawn in some larger secretive world of power brokers with hidden agendas... Well, who's THAT smart? We can't even get a decent sugar substititute. And we've got billions of people that would pay lots of money for that! (Wouldn't you? ... OH DAMN! I promised myself I wouldn't bring up your corpulence... sorry.)

If there were some conspiracy out there, and they were this smart, do you think they'd let you run amok with your insane-sounding ramblings, just on the off chance that some disaffected Socialist would believe it?
Turns out that you're actually better than that, and you even got some otherwise normal people to believe it. I know better than to think YOU actually believe it. But hey, it pays the bills pretty good, don't it?

Anyway, you wanted to hear from a Veteran, and so now you have.

Sincerely,
Derek Viljoen
SGT (E-5) Ret., US Army
http://undercoverhippie.blogspot.com

Michael,

My story is important to me and I hold it and the memory of my buddies as a sacred thing of infinite value. I hold it with the feeling that if I let it out in the wrong place at the wrong time or to the wrong person it will be tarnished or diminished in some way. What we went through probably like any group of warriors in any combat ever can not be communicated. The bond formed with someone even in a single night under fire is completely foreign to our everyday lives. It is odd that I am writing you about this as you are, in my opinion, an icon of the unknowing person in our society. You have the ability( great talent even) to make fun and entertaining movies yet you apparently have no idea what we who have fought know. In this world its all about survival. Many layers up from survival is what we commonly live in this country but the foundation is survival. If you knew the things I/we know then you would walk this earth humbly and with thanks in your heart for those that have given you a safe place to walk and for those that put food in your kitchen. You have no way of understanding what it is like to defend your country when asked, whether the cause is just or not, or what we owe those guys that are not here to respond for themselves. So it is doubtful you will understand when I say you are not worthy and those that seek comfort in your understanding, by spilling their treasure( real or imagined) are either gullible, weak, or stupid. A defining characteristic of your ilk is loving that little spark that gives a titillating response ala The Dixie Chicks. They got their little thrill for a minute or two uncaring what effect it had on their myriad fans in uniform. Do yourself a favor. Go into the wilderness for a time alone and on foot. Learn what it is that is at the very foundation of our society. Once you learn that your life on this country depends on many many people staring death and/or failure in the face on a daily basis I think you will be changed and maybe even worthy. Until then I will hold my story and those of the heroes I have known with a resolution you can't begin to imagine.

Bill Kelley
ex 5th Group Special Forces
resident/patient of Madigan Army Hospital ALL of 1969
currently a farmer

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43 Responses To "Our Military: Letters to Michael Moore"

FIRST! Frank, You rock!

#1 - Posted by: Greg Sullivan on November 19, 2004 03:39 PM

With real rocks.

#2 - Posted by: 007 on November 19, 2004 03:51 PM

I wish that SOMEONE would start a blog with nothing but copies of these letters sent to Mikey. Then, after he publishes his piece of tripe they can be cross-referenced so that others can see how they've been taken out of context.

Even the ones that aren't used by Mikey could then be used to show the number of "anti" Moore vets as a comparison to the number of letters Moore will claim to have gotten.

#3 - Posted by: FormerHostage on November 19, 2004 03:52 PM

Those are wonderful letters. Wow, these guys make their cases intelligently and calmly. Given Moore's bs they would be well within their rights to just blast Jabba the Schmuck.

And am I the only person that could not give a rat's ass who is 'first'?

#4 - Posted by: Chris on November 19, 2004 03:54 PM

I'm completely amazed at how civilized these letters are. Could be that there are plenty that aren't so nice, but we'll never see them.

I guess being shot at gives you different perspective.

#5 - Posted by: LynnGunn on November 19, 2004 04:01 PM

Why should our great servicemen even take time out from killing terrorist to write this fat bastard a letter? I doubt he’ll even take the time to read them.

I think it would be more appropriate to simply send him terrorist feces, since he likes the repeat the crap they spew.

#6 - Posted by: K. Ham on November 19, 2004 04:02 PM

Wow. All you can follow that with is god Bless our Troops and Veterans.

#7 - Posted by: Stephen on November 19, 2004 04:05 PM

Wow. All you can follow that with is God Bless our Troops and Veterans.

#8 - Posted by: Stephen on November 19, 2004 04:06 PM

God bless Joe foo' the Marine

#9 - Posted by: Kadnine on November 19, 2004 04:11 PM

Frank, the letters brought a tear...

God bless these men, and our people in Iraq.

Michael Moore gets TOO much attention from us all. He's what we used to call a GUK in school. Too small to spit on, and too slimy to step on.

Thanks for publishing the letters

#10 - Posted by: Mongo on November 19, 2004 04:12 PM

I am a full grown mature man of years. My hands are tough. I do hard work willingly. I've been a hero and I've been a zero. Life has smiled on me at times and Life has handed me years of latrine work at other times. I'm 6'2", 210 and got a grizzled salt and pepper buzz cut. I'm the guy out in the storm tending my cattle. I say all that to say this - Bill Kelley's letter made me gasp, weep openly. Quiet little sobs at my monitor. God Bless this man, this patriot, this honorable uniformed American. His letter is Truth, because he chooses to hold dear his sacred tale, not to be used as pearls before swine. Bill, wherever you are, hoss, Brother Mine, I salute you.

#11 - Posted by: Shiloh Sharps on November 19, 2004 04:18 PM

Praise and thanks to all the men and women who serve in the military :)

#12 - Posted by: Laura on November 19, 2004 04:28 PM

Fantastic letters, but how much do you want to bet for every 100 letters Moore gets like these he gets one that backs him up (and they probably will be from fans pretending to be vets). Guess which ones will see print? I say keep collecting these beauties as a strong counterpoint to his nonsense.

#13 - Posted by: ApolloPT on November 19, 2004 04:32 PM

Thank you from the bottom of my heart to all the veterans of the United States (my Dad did three tours in Korea)
People like Michael Moore and the morons of hollywood are not deserving of the protection these fine gentelmen provide so that they can spout their liberal opinons so freely!

#14 - Posted by: Leann on November 19, 2004 05:24 PM

Way to go, boys!!

My bro is coming in from a 13 month deployment. He'll be home for 15 days. I can't wait.

Time for a bottle of Crown Royal, and a good bullshit session...

Semper Fi

#15 - Posted by: BearHunter on November 19, 2004 05:28 PM

Great letters Frank. Thanks for sharing them with us.

I'm not a gambling man, but I can safely bet Mike Moore will not be posting those on his web site. And in a way, as Bill Kelly implied, his site isn't worthy of them.

For all of the brave men and women who serve faithfully, my love, respect and thankfulness goes out to you.

As the song says, "At 'em boys, Give 'er the gun!"

#16 - Posted by: kevkersey on November 19, 2004 06:16 PM

Gosh, I love our military men. Nothing like them in the whole world. First class, every last one. Don't you just feel honored to breathe the air with them on the same planet? I sure do.

#17 - Posted by: MountainMama on November 19, 2004 07:08 PM

I have sent an email to President Bush expressing my support for the Marine wrongfully acused of murder for killing that terrest. I hope that all those who support our troops will also send emails to President Bush calling for justice for this Marine. If anyone knows the email address for the head of the Marines so that I can send them an email, hlease post it. I am not adding my email address as I have gotten too much hate mail in doing that in the past.

#18 - Posted by: Algen on November 19, 2004 07:51 PM

Frank, I just read the other letters you posted with mine. Quite frankly, I'm ashamed to have my letter on the same page as Bill Kelley's. I was trying to be ironic, and mildly humorous.

His was neither. It was a serious shot of reality that I find humbling. I served, but not in combat.

It was Cold War service. The kind that doesn't hurt, doesn't threaten. You go on everyday knowing "theoretically" the balloon could go up. But no one seriously thought about it. We were children of the Cold War. It was all we knew.

But men like Mr. Kelley...

They are the real heroes, and I'm glad he wouldn't soil his story by sharing it with the likes of a self-absorbed worm like Moore.

Mr. Kelley, sir, thank you.

#19 - Posted by: Undercover Hippie on November 19, 2004 08:01 PM

Wow. That last one by Billy Kelley was awe inspiring.

[break while I read posted comments]

And apparantly I wasn't the only one who thought so.

Like Undercovcer Hippie my service was Cold War and seemed pretty non-threatening (I thought others how to fire an M-60).

Bill Kelley, brother, if yer ever anywhere near New England send me an email and I'll drive whatever the distance is to shake your hand for writing and sending that letter... and every round'll be on me.

#20 - Posted by: Tuning Spork on November 19, 2004 09:19 PM

These messages are all great to read, but all partisan joking and humor aside, the last one is flawless... I could spend all day tearing apart Moore with any of the comical fodder he has generously provided us, I could sit and point out, line by line, every factual innacuracy and spin, and none of my efforts would accomplish anything near what those few paragraphs do. I've rarely read anything that hits so close to the core, the reality, of the situation. The irony being that this small piece of eloquence is delivered to us by a farmer... one of the "stupid rednecks" that Mr. Moore is so fond of dismissing, but so afraid of hearing.

#21 - Posted by: RS on November 19, 2004 10:17 PM

I'd like to say, that Micheal Moore is just human like the rest of us, and that we should forgive him for his actions because he really does not understand the damage he causes America. But I can't, because he does, so we shouldn't.

#22 - Posted by: steve on November 19, 2004 10:19 PM

You think Michael Moore deserves a civil response?

I don't. He begs to be shouted down, and deported to Antarctica. I wish he'd fall, and disappear... believe it.. or not... where is Jack Palance?

Why can't he be a victim of spontaneous combustion? He looks like he's calorically critical... I'd not stay within 10 nautical miles of him... just in case..

#23 - Posted by: Pasha on November 19, 2004 10:41 PM

Those letters show what it means to be an American: stand up for what YOU believe in, instead of pandering to the interests of others. God bless all our servicemen and all those here who support them in any way. On that note, who else thinks Michael Jensen (first letter) ought to get a complimentary W2 T-shirt? After all he did quote it almost directly "The American people have spoken for four more years of tax cuts and dead terrorists."

#24 - Posted by: humanoverlord on November 19, 2004 10:46 PM

"writing while riding her menstrual cycle like Evil Kneival"

Now that's funny as hell.

#25 - Posted by: a different Bill on November 19, 2004 11:56 PM

I'm saying Michael Moore is a fat pig who knows exactly what he's doing, and deserves nothing. He will gladly sacrifice anything that is not his for his own gain. He is an opertunist in the worst imaginable way. He sucks! He make HFL look like Mother Thereasa.

#26 - Posted by: steve on November 20, 2004 12:24 AM

they socked it to him, i love our vets.
its a good read for my birthday

#27 - Posted by: Joey D on November 20, 2004 02:33 AM

Well said!!!
These good men showed Michael Moore respect that he does not deserve. But I would expect no less from The United States Armed Forces. Thank God for OUR veterans and may he bless them always.
Freedom isn't free. Our veterans past, present and future have all payed the price in one way or another for the freedom Mr. Moore wastes. Again I say, THANK YOU!! To our fine men and women that are now or have been in harms way, in order to protect everything we hold dear.

God loves us all

#28 - Posted by: Chaplain on November 20, 2004 03:04 AM

Happy Birthday, Joey D, and God, please make idiocy painful.

#29 - Posted by: Pasha on November 20, 2004 03:39 AM

Show your support for a brave Marine doing his job.

#30 - Posted by: urban on November 20, 2004 07:55 AM

Here is the best reply to Michael Moore:

Colonel Jessup: You want answers?!
Lt. J.G McCaffrey.(or Michael Moore): I want the truth.

Colonel: You can't handle the truth!!!!
Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, [Mr. Moore]? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for [the terrorists] and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: That [some Iraqi's] death, while tragic, probably saved lives.
And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something.
You use 'em as a punchline.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it. I'd prefer you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!!!!

I have to laugh when I think that the purpose of the whole movie was to paint men like Colonel Jessup as evil and Lt. McCaffrey as some sort of savior.

#31 - Posted by: CDR Will on November 20, 2004 08:06 AM

CDR Will, one other thing pops into my mind when I consider the intent of Col Jessup in that role. All of the Europeans who snidely called Bush a "cowboy."

They think that's an insult.

Then there are liberals who complain about labels if you call them liberals.

They think that's an insult.

... hey, wait a minute, it IS.

#32 - Posted by: Undercover Hippie on November 20, 2004 10:10 AM

Not to disparage Mr Kelley's letter to the Globular Mass, which I thought was wonderful, but I thought this paragraph could've used an add-on:

"Do yourself a favor. Go into the wilderness for a time alone and on foot. Learn what it is that is at the very foundation of our society."

add-on inserted here:... and by the way, when you do that - could you put on this bear costume? Just to get the feel of being one of natures creatures & pitting yourself against the wild?? - No, no! pay no attention to those fellas in orange jackets with guns - they are here for your ... safety.. Uh.. yeahhhh... Safteeey! (hehehe!)

#33 - Posted by: LokiDoki on November 20, 2004 10:46 AM

The way I see it;

Michael Moore = Elsworth Tooey

Anyone else see it?

#34 - Posted by: Mike Kelly on November 20, 2004 11:04 AM

Mike Kelly: I see it the resemblance, but Mr. Moore is like a parody of the character that you are referencing...that is if I am getting it while working on only my second cup of coffee.

I was the writer listed second in the letters. You know, the worst one:) Anyway, in response to those that think Mr. Moore does not deserve a civil response I say that being the good people that we all are is the harshest rebuke to people like him. We are right and he is wrong on every level. I choose not to stoop to his level as it is wrong in and of itself, and it legitimizes all like him.

To all of my fellow veterans and all real Americans: God Bless you. I am in awe of those who go into long-term combat zones. While I was in service most of the time I was shot at was in bars. Really. There is nothing like accidentally pissing off the Yakuza:)

Keep up the good work, Frank J.

#35 - Posted by: Le Cou Rouge on November 20, 2004 11:46 AM

thanks pasha

#36 - Posted by: Joey D on November 20, 2004 01:41 PM

Great letters. An endless thank you to all of our veterans.

I'm happy that my Buckeyes could ruin Michael Moore's day. Even a season as bad as this (we're a young team) is glossed over by the knowledge that we beat that school up north and hopefully denied them a glance at some pretty flowers.

Cooper's tenure at the helm was like Michael New saluting a UN General. "It's OK to lose to Michigan," he said. I don't think so, and neither does any other true Buckeye. We've got the real deal now with Tressel.

Only a national championship is better than beating Michigan, and that can't be done without winning that game.

The moral of the story: know what defines you, and do whatever it takes to measure up. Where your treasure is, that's where your heart will be. And when you win, everyone loves a happy dance.

#37 - Posted by: McWert Deglieb on November 20, 2004 04:57 PM

I like the letters, but like many have already stated, I doubt Mooron will actually read them. If he does I'd be interested to see what consequences these letters will have with him.

On another note, The Washington Post dropped Ted Rall and his sorry excuse for a comic strip.

#38 - Posted by: Joel on November 20, 2004 06:16 PM

Hey! Whatever happened to Front Line Voices? These would make excellent posts! All ya gotta do is be Michael Moore and ask for letters from vets and they come pouring in? WTF?!

Time to give MM what he asked for, eh?
Mwah hah hah hah!!!!!!

#39 - Posted by: Tuning Spork on November 21, 2004 12:25 AM

Shiloh said it best- Reading those missives from our boys makes a grown man cry.
May God bless them all, help them fight as United States Soldiers, and bring them home for us to love.

#40 - Posted by: doubletrouble on November 21, 2004 12:40 AM

"Shiloh said it best- Reading those missives from our boys makes a grown man cry." They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery: 'Aye, but tis a good cry, and quite proportional to their size.'

Apropos of nothing :-) check out www.elvenglade.com and, if you're ever passing through Oregon's Willamette Valley, take advantage of Hank's Tennis Ball Discount.

#41 - Posted by: jaime cincocentavos on November 22, 2004 02:09 PM

do u care if i copy paste some of these letters into my blog? i think this is what some of my friends refuse to admit exists concerning troop support of the war.

#42 - Posted by: alex on November 24, 2004 11:29 AM

#43 - Posted by: ddd on January 18, 2005 08:28 PM