I strongly feel that the parents of the day have lost contact with what it actually means to live in a free society. First of all nothing is free and there is and always will be a price and everyone gets their chance to pay. I would hate to be a recruiter today.

First!!

My thoughts:
-You cannot support the troops without supporting their mission. They don't want to come home as quitters, because:
a) these idiots would send every suicide bomber they have to the USA
b) anything left unfinished turns into a bigger proglem, ie, N Korea
c) The troops the idiots claim to support who were killed truely would then have died in vein.
-For these idiots to take the stand that this is all about Oil or Money/Power in some fashion or another, they cannot have cared less for:
> those killed on 9/11 and the many other murder events dating back another 3 decades
> the children and people of Iraq who have been used as Saddam and Son's personal torture victims, etc, etc.
In short they don't care about anything but themselves. They don't care about the troops, but even they are bright enough to know they can't say that aloud, so they run around claiming to 'support the troops'. I challenge any of them to prove that they've sent one letter or single box of cookies.
THEY ARE SOCIOPATHS
I'm ready for the next civil war, which will commence shortly after a few drowned rat looking bastards with turbans blow up some innocent people in a NYC subway, and they take the stand that the bastards deserve ever consideration afforded by the totally dysfunctional legal system of the USA.

Course, We have the guns, so it shouldn't take too long.

Frank .... you're assuming she feels grief .... but I'd contend she having WAY too much fun - enjoying the 15 minutes of fame and using her sons death ... using and abusing ....

pete

I gave up on Drum when he gave up on catblogging.

Interesting post.

OK,

I am an admitted liberal apologist. I came here to see your version of "the funny" after that gauntlet to Sadly, No but you seem to be in a serious phase. Or else this is a joke that I just don't follow -- chickenhawk american/chinese people? Although, you do get points for the 101st tagline.

I like your thesis: those liberals are just to crazy to talk to because I am reasonable. Further, I want an opposition party but because these crazies are opposing my ideas with ideas I oppose they are unreasonable. Hmmm.

As to your question of the day, what behavior do you deem "self-destructive"? While Cindy's story is a little confusing (seeing as how she's already met with Bush I don't know exactly what he can tell her to make her happy), Bush has clearly been horribly derelict in his dealing with military families, e.g. never attending a single soldier's funeral. There is some conflation here but is derision really the right answer?

As to the parent thing, let's state the "moonbat thesis" plainly. Those families who support the war should be the ones who go. That article is, presumably, an example of "righties" not putting their money where there mouth is. College protests are a separate instance of angry "liberal" students taking out their frustrations on the recruiters.

Ok, I know t I used a few too many scare quotes but I thought not only was there a total lack of funniness, this was an intellectually lazy post. You're not going to be able win with that against the utter insanity that Sadly, No manages to find every day.

Those “kind of people” make me sick.

I just got word that one of my "kids" (read as local friends of my children that like to call me "Dad") just got injured by a roadside bomb yesterday. He's got a broken back (2 places), a steel plate in his head, and he may have lost an eye.

That’s a real man, and he is fully supported by his parents, real and imaginary.

Muckadoo’s make me sick.

AIC

'nuf said

fulsome,
Yeah, a few things are a little confusing and need explaining. I like the chicken hawk symbol because it's a hawk that eats chickens, a good symbol for all the chickens out there in the media (this war's Front) that need devouring. The other symbol I've used before and stands for "American Ronin".

Can't really explain that one.

This is one of my few "serious" posts, and I'm not competing with Sadly No (I thought the post about my brother had "teh funny"... even though it was mainly true).

You charge intellectual laziness, and I answer too little time. Explaining why a strong oposition party is an essay for another time, but, in simple, I don't trust myself to do the right thing all the time, and echo rooms can be dangerous.

As for the self-destructive behavior of some Democrats, that's clear to all my conservative readers - which this was aimed at.

Thanks for the well-written feedback, though.

Fulsome - just a quick responce to one of your one-liners: "Bush has clearly been horribly derelict in his dealing with military families, e.g. never attending a single soldier's funeral"
I would contend that meeting with over 900 family members - possibly all who wanted to meet with the president when it was possible - is not 'horribly derelict.' And I would say that Bush probably doesn't go to the funerals because he knows that if he does go, the funeral would become about him, and not about the brave soldier they are supposed to be commemorating. I don't know for a fact, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out, that Bush has sent representatives to each and every funeral - and (again, I don't know this) I would assume that they were pretty important officials in his administration, but not important enough to steal the limelight...someone like a Deputy Chief of Staff or Assistant Press Secretary.

"What will it take to get the extreme side of the Democratic party to act in a non-self-destructive way?"

Why would we want it to? Besides helping to bring TEH FUNNY, the extreme left honestly doesn't hurt the Dems because hundreds of millions of Americans are blissfully unaware of their existence. Granted, trying to sideline Dean in 2008 by making him DNC head may end up backfiring if he keeps opening up his mouth, but I imagine the Dems in charge will realize that their best bet in 2008 will be a popular red-state Governor, not someone who who is tres popular in the DU. And maybe he'll even win.

(Easley in '08 -- you heard it here first)

If I were to be killed in Iraq I wouldn't WANT President Bush at the funeral. Not because I don't support him because I do. But because, damnit, if I was to be killed I DO NOT want the stress, activity, or publicity associated with the President to bring the spotlight, however briefly, upon my grieving wife or mother. I just don't.

President Bush is in a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't spot. If he attends the funerals he takes sniping for stealing the spotlight from the fallen. If he doesn,the gets sniped for ignoring their sacrifice. I applaud himfor making the choice that exposes him to political flack while giving the families the chance to grieve in private in the way they choose.

Is 'horrabin' one of your guys? We're sending him back; he's not trolling up to the level we try to encourage.

I joined the military at 17 and my parents had to sign papers to allow me to enter. and the did because the respected my decision i explained to them why i wanted to go and they agreed that even though not yet an adult i had made a decision and thought out all aspects of it and still wanted to go ahead. i turned 18 in basic training and it was the best one i ever remember because i was doing something for my country. i felt proud to be in the military and proud to be an american. my parents knew if they didnt sign i would have waited till i turned 18 then went in anyways and i thank them for standing by my decision