So the Algore movie is staged and boring?
Or is Algore himself staged and boring?
I'm confused, and first (I think).

//The earth is heating up and we will all die!//

Then Al Gore needs to stop talking...yeah old joke...did I tell you about the one where he should be eaten by cannibals? Has he made any trips to plant explosives in Antartica lately?? That'd be the best way to promote his movie...

No, it's a documentary in the finest tradition of Michael Moore and Jeff Tremaine.
I predict record cold temps all during the film's run with snow during the premiere.

Gee let's see, the earth is heating up and so in several million of years it will be unlivable. Well, since it is my sincere belief that God will have had, so much more than enough of us by then, it's not really going to matter much.
Algore is what happens when someone gives up their soul to the devil for power and glory on earth. He believes in nothing that doesn't come out of his own diseased imagination. He is after all the creator of the Internet and thus someone who should be worshipped, at least that's what I've always gotten from his ravings.
What a Maroon!

al sucks

Weren't people like Al Gore saying in the early 90's (like 1992 or so) that in 10 years the earth would be uninhabitable? And its been like 14 years now. What happened?

A picture of Al Gore alone would guarentee this movie the top slot on the horror catagory. I think I'll celebrate the film's release by driving my big pickup out into the woods and cutting down a few anciant redwoods to power my woodburning stove.

Monkey Faced Liberal is back!

Either that or these guys are getting rather thin on material.

Look after Franks troll comments.

Slapout,

What they were saying was unihabitable was the rental property Al Gore had in Carthage Tennessee. For some reason slum lord comes to mind. This following statement is from mediaresearch.

"Mrs. Mayberry said she didn’t believe Gore when he said he had no idea of his property’s plumbing problems. Is she right to be skeptical? Consider the Washington Times story of October 29, 1992: "The family farm where Sen. Al Gore said he learned his environmental values has been the site of a large open dump — filled with pesticide containers, aerosol cans, old tires, used filters filled with waste oil, and unrecycled cans and bottles — for several years." Reporter Michael Hedges found the dump "appears to violate state and federal statutes, according to environmental officials." Network coverage? Zero."

I. for one. am glad that our ex-Veep is travelling around the world in a private jet burning thousands and thousands of gallons of fossil fuel to warn us peons that we must dramatically cut back on the use of fossil fuels so that the average temperature in Tampa does not go uop to 87 degrees farenheit. I plan to sell my bimmer and my hummer and buy two bicycles. The kids are on their own. Thank god for Al Gore, D-Uranus.

Hey, I live up here in Minnesota and all the snow and ice melted a couple of months ago...does this Al Gore guys have a point or something? Are we all going to die a horrible awful death unless we hire Albert as our next President...and...um...just what in the hell does Albert propose to do about all this?

Hey, wasn't Al Bore's family orig. in the...Hang On...Gasp...TOBACCO BUSINESS at one time and isn't this where they made some of their money that sent little Albert to his stupid little schools where he got his bad grades and where he learned how to become a moronic politician and AHHHHHHHHHHHH my head just blew up!

But he's Super, Super Serial!

Sorry, I just really loved that South Park episode.

"But no! You just had to go and be nice to Al Gore!

You dumb.

Frank J. dumb.

Me smart.

Al Gore smart.

You make Al Gore cry he turn off sun.

You be cold then.

You be dumb and cold then.

You never hear Gore talk about bring back dinosaurs. When dinosaurs roamed the earth, we had ice ages. So why not bring them back to fight against global warming? Everybody knows dinosaur flatulence destroys green house gas. How else do you account for the lack of global warming back then?

Yes, they had no politicians. Some have said that dinosaurs hated politicians. Not True. Dinosaurs loved politicians, they thought politicians were yummy.

If you want to get rid of global warming, tell Al Gore to shut up. I would but I keep falling asleep every time I see him.

LokiDoki,
It took some will to resist making a ManBearPig joke.

No, really, this is the Al Gore that's been there all along, but Bush made him repress! The medication is helping as well.

I invented filmography.

And scaremongering.

The forecast high tomorrow for Mountain View is 63 F. We could use some global warming.

Your Right on Al,The chimate is changing,all the snow has melted and it's only May 25th,We're all going to BURN (unless you vote for Al of course)
Regards from the Great White North

FrankJ:

You gave me hope regarding your ability to be funny with your excellent troll post, and now you go and follow it up with this politically uninformed and completely unfunny post.

First, you recycle the old conservative lines about "global warming isn't real, why should I worry about it, silly silly liberals..."

Of course, one would think that when the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the National Academy of Sciences, the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union, and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) and the EPA have all have stated that global warming is occurring and that human activity is contributing to global warming, even the most deluded right-winger would wake up and smell the coffee (rather than continue to drink the oil-industry's Kool-Aid) and start to consider what consequences global warming could have on the world if it continues.

Even worse though is the fact that you have a prime target to bring down -- Al Gore -- and the best you can do is joke about how boring he is?

Maybe this would have been funny if you did it creatively. But instead you choose to make fun of the fact that is he boring by -- saying that he is boring.

WTF?

Sigh. You got my hopes up FrankJ. But it looks like we still have a lot of work to do.

Reading this this might help you appreciate what funny is.

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

More blather from the left wing site pest spouting the tripe from the far left "experts". Mount Pinatubo threw 500 times more "stuff" into the air than man has since the dawn of the industrial revolution...but somehow WE are the cause of this invented thing called "Global Warming"... LOL! C'mon! You morons are stuuupid! These people don't really believe this shit! They are pushing a totally different agenda and they are getting you lemmings to fall for this hoccum in the process! "There's a sucker born every minute"

I feel kinda bad for him. I don't think he has any friends.

ussjimmycarter:

I want to introduce you to a cool new piece of technology. It is called Google.

With it you can find out all sorts of interesting things.

I think you should know about it because it might prevent you from saying ridiculously stupid things in the future, such as:

"Mount Pinatubo threw 500 times more "stuff" into the air than man has since the dawn of the industrial revolution...but somehow WE are the cause of this invented thing called "Global Warming"

As can be read
here

here

here

The Mount Pinatubo eruption actually had a cooling effect on the Earth.

Moreover, according to the Lawerence Livermore Academy, the eruption has actually provided evidence that further supports global warming.

Of course there are all those scientific experts who do not think Global Warming is occuring, think it is occuring but the cause is unknown, or who think that it is occuring but it is a result of natural process.

Lets count them. Lets see.

There are 7.

On the other hand, all major scientific bodies do support the idea that global warming is occuring, and that it is being caused by human activity. As you can read here.

In fact, Dr James Baker, the head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in the US, has said "There's a better scientific consensus on this than on any issue I know - except maybe Newton's second law of dynamics."

That said, USSJimmycarter, I agree with you that you shouldn't worry about global warming.

Given your level of intelligence, I think you need to focus on gas issues that are far more personal and pressing -- like how to fart.

As stupid as you seem, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you forgot how.

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

I know I'm not supposed to be trolling for trolls, but I gotta know:

If MFL thinks he knows what humor is then why doesnt he link to his blog and show us his finely honed wit and comic genius? If he knows what funny is then he should have pages upon pages of his own work that's funny enough to qualify him to sit in front of his computer an bombast the way he does.

Aussie,
In MFL's defense, one doesn't have to do to critique. How many movie critics make movies?

Ahh you make a good point ma'am. My apologies.

AussieCasper:

I am a totally worthless superficially superior-feelng idiot! [Summarized for length, view source if you must, Spacemonkey.]

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

Spacemonkey:

Now you are censoring me? What a shame.

I guess the big tough right-wing boys can't stand a few constructive comments and a some teasing from a little old Monkey Faced Liberal.

So they take their ball and go home.

Sad really.

William F. Buckley is turning over is his grave.

Or, at least he would be if he was dead yet.

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

B-O-O H-O-O. It's their site. It's their ball.

MFL:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
-Abraham Lincoln

Now THERES a guy who's rolling over in his grave.

Think before you speak, and on the off chance that you do forget to do it in that order- show some class.

I was out of line, miss k called me on it and i apologized. You on the other hand can't help yourself.

I wouldn't call it censorship I'd call it summarizing. Your long-winded crap is still there if any one wants to read it. They just need to read the source.

Ok, Monkey Faced Liberal

This is a poor place to dispute a topic a complicated as global warming, but since you started.

From the start, I do believe there is a good deal of evidence for global warming. Most notable is the growing body of evidence of a warming trend at mid-to-high northern latitudes. World wide there is has been a overall rise in temperatures of .7 to 3 degrees in the last century. The distribution of this is not uniform but has been more pronounced in the Northern Hemisphere and at high latitudes. There is actually a fairly substantial body of evidence of this long term warming trend. In my opinion it is a worrying trend.

That being said the global warming topic has attracted a so much politically motivated nonsense and junk science that getting a grasp on what is real and what is chaff has become nearly impossible. The single greatest problem at the core is over reliance on still largely empirical modeling of long term climatology. It should state now that I am not talking about how unreliable short term weather prediction is.

First you need to understand the difference between empirical modeling and physical modeling. A purely empirical model just fits a complex set of computations to data. On the other end is physical modeling which directly from physical principles attempts to arrive at confirming fit to data. In between there is a large range of pseudo-physical models which attempt to account for physical principles but still have to rely on a large amount of empirical tweaking and fudging to match a given data set.

There are two general principles that you need to remember when applying empirical formula and modeling. First, never use outlier data to make an empirical fit. Second, never apply an empirical fit or model outside the boundaries of known data fits. As a general rule an empirical model becomes increasingly unreliable outside its known range of data.

Through the years world wide climatological models have gone from a largely empirical to fair ballpark pseudo-physical models that can account for a growing body of present and historical climate data.

It must be remembered that complex modeling done for climatological research is pseudo-physical. Increased understanding of underlying physical phenomena and cyclical processes make for better ball park calculations but models must still rely on great deal of empirical massaging to fit known and historical data.

*** Unfortunately, while there is a growing body of data supporting existing global warming tends, most predictions of disaster rely on complex climatological models that have been pushed outside the data ranges they were built within. These are worst case scenarios pressed from existing models. Many of these models rest on a framework of cyclical regional models that are only good fits for a very limited range of data, and don’t react well to worst case scenarios. Push them and you get modeling disasters. The regional cyclical patterns break in unpredictable ways.***

Yes, global warming is real. Yes, you do still need to sort through all the bull to get to the real stuff. That’s only part of my reservations about this mater.

Now the politics of this is and what to do about it is another mater. Do any of you want to go further?

By the way.

My long winded crap is my own.

Sorry, I'll think of something horrible to add, just give me a little time.

Ok, I should have worked on paragraphs six and seven. They need to be brought together and a rewrite done.

That's as much as I want to think about tonight. My brain hurts.

Like Al Gore really understands any of this shit anyway!

Neo, I'll let yours stand. Unfair, I'll admit, but read the tagline.

Ok, I'll behave.

Just remember FrankJ: Al Gore invented the internet, and he can take it away! And by the way, MFL, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

I am a totally worthless superficially superior-feelng idiot! [Summarized for length, view source if you must, Spacemonkey.] I believe we have consensus on this issue. Houston, he has a problem.

Neo-andertal:

"From the start, I do believe there is a good deal of evidence for global warming. ...In my opinion it is a worrying trend...Yes, global warming is real."

It is good to see that we agree on these points at least.

I agree that this is a difficult venue to discuss this issue. Of course, this is partially because Spacemonkey will most likely censor my response. ;-)

As far as what we should do, and whether the models are "strong" enough, I personally think that the empirical evidence we have already have (such as the melting of the glaciers and ice caps), the extreme economic consequences that result in the worse case scenarios (Miami and other global cities flooded, deserts expanding in Africa and other areas,), and the indisputable benefits that would accrue to our descendents if we were able to provide them with technologies that enable them to generate cheap, clearn and renewable energy are all enough reason to peruse aggressive efforts to prevent global warming.

Which is why, despite the fact I am pessimistic about the potential for corn-based ethanol to be an important source of energy, I think efforts like the 25 X'25 initiative (http://www.25x25.org/), which is endorsed by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich among others, are a good start.

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

//If MFL thinks he knows what humor is then why doesnt he link to his blog and show us his finely honed wit and comic genius? //

MFL is too busy eyeballing the nine year old boys that walk by his mom's basement window on their way to school to write humor.

I'd believe there was some validity to global warming ... if it wasn't for rabid morons like Al Gore ... flying and driving to his overpaid speaking engagements .... promoting the green agenda.
I'd also be more apt to give ANY credibility to these envirowackos ... if they hadn't been whining and yelping about a new ice age a scant 30 years ago.
MFL ... I'll take your Google and trunp you with JunkScience.com!

MFL

“I personally think that the empirical evidence we have already have (such as the melting of the glaciers and ice caps)”

Actually. I wasn’t referring to present evidence of high latitude warming as “empirical evidence”. Your selling that part a little short, much of it is good hard data based in good science. The empirical stuff comes into the picture when we talk about climate modeling, or any other weather modeling for that mater. There’s some good sound science in those models but there is a lot of mathematical voodoo going on to get the modeling to fit historical weather data. There are loads of variables and coefficients to tweak the heck out of, and worse. You end up with a gargantuan model that you hope represents the data you already have and has little hope when pushed to its outside limits.

By the way the Greenland ice cap is melting at the edges and snowfall is increasing in the interior. They don’t set each other off, but you can’t just leave out stuff that complicates your point.

Neo-andertal:

You wrote "the Greenland ice cap is melting at the edges and snowfall is increasing in the interior."

These two facts don't set each other off. As you can read here , BOTH of these observations actually provide further evidence of global warming.

As a study from the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory has shown, "When the environment becomes warmer, it builds up water in the atmosphere which can then increase snow fall over Greenland. At the same time, however, the oceans are warming causing the outer sheets of ice to melt."

Neo-andertal, you don't seem like a dumb person. So please, don't ignore your reason when it tells you that global warming is really a major problem that we need to address right away, just because you are afraid of being called a Monkey Faced Liberal.

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

On the topic of ethanol,

If we are talking about gasoline , it makes more sense to use ethanol as an fuel additive than use high ethanol content gas. Ethanol has a lot of side benefits if you are using it as a 10%-15% additive. I’m not enthusiastic about high ethanol gas though. There’s an energy content penalty, plus you use a lot of energy trying to make the stuff in the first place.

Bio-diesel on the other hand has almost the same characteristics as regular diesel. You can even easily convert used cooking grease into Bio-diesel. It’s amazing what kind of crap you can run through a diesel engine with little modification. That’s if you don’t mind smelling like French fries. Just kidding! Pollution becomes a problem. Diesel has a different pollution profile than gasoline. We are rather lax with gasoline pollutants because that’s what people want. You can clean much of the sulfur problem diesel has, but if you want to go to super clean than the production price goes way up. That would kill much of the incentive to switch. I always thought that super clean was overkill anyway. More of a good thing is always better, isn’t that the liberal credo.

Oh ya, I forgot to mention that diesel engines are 1/3 more efficient than gasoline powered engines, and the fuel is cheaper to refine than gasoline. Also, using electric motors to assist seems to work better with heavy vehicles rather than light. Hybrid electric technology may end up making more of a % difference with trucks and SUV’s than compact cars.

I ya,

I forgot the ever popular chicken manure diesel alternative. That one always goes over well.

I'm all for debate.
If it helps catch defish.

Neo-andertal:

Thought you might find this story on how the Indy 500 is switching to ethanol interesting http://www.indy500.com/news/story.php?story_id=4105.

I share your pessimism on the current benefits of using corn-based ethanol, but I am optimistic that we can develop cleaner biofuels using other types of plants in the future.

I mean, we put a man on the moon, and all we seemed to get out of that was Tang and some cool rocks.

If the Brazilians can fuel most of their cars using surgarcane-based ethanol, I like to think that an aggressive effort by the U.S. to develop clean biofuels can yield a similar result.

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

"Ah am willing to fly tens of thousands of miles each month in my private jet burning up tremendous amounts of fossil fuel to spread this important message that we must reduce our carbon footprint." Al Gore, D-Lockbox

For Mr. Gore, courtesy of YouTube.com:

Rain Forest

The last word on global warming. Sun.