Here I thought that Hamas was angling to be the 51st state or join NATO.

You liberals have got it so wrong. The president is right, that's why he's the president. And he has surrounded himself with intelligunt people who, with their vast years of experience in the military and high office, he relies on for the most accurate assessment of the reality of Commie/Facist/Islamo plans to take over the world and take away our guns, just like you chickens want. That's why he's the decider, a do-gooder, and the MSM which is owned by liberal cut-and-runners like GE, Times/Warner, and Rupurt Mirdock are all in bed with the do-badders. He has a secret plan for total victory, so shut up, or else it won't be a secret and the traitors win! Do you want to lose? All this talk about saving lives and money and you never thought about what's good for America - Do you want to lose! I say we back him in whatever he wants to do because it's good for America. Pinheads for Bush say: Re-elect Bush in 2008!

The lunatic minority fringe is desperate. It is now literally making stuff up via such reliable, non-partisan, and objective "sources" such as "World Net Daily" and la Malkin skank.

"Then again, with how good the Democrats are at convincing people to surrender on major conflicts, maybe some good will come of this."

Yeah! Jim baker and the growing chorus of GOP Congress - rats leaving the Decider's ship are Democrats...

"I Think They Should Finish Destroying America..."

Unbeknownst to the majority of Americans, Democrats have actually been in charge of the White House and Congress in the past 6 years... I know, I know, you thought it was Bush and the GOP. That was yet another evil Democratic conspiracy, I tell ya!

Does the freakish fringe ever tire of being mocked? Or is it masochistic? bring it on, guys. We'll ridicule you out of existence.

Apparently WorldNetDaily, Malkin, and Frank trust the word of Hamas more than they trust the word of their fellow Americans. It also seems they love spreading Hamas propaganda.

Whoda thunk it?

so-called conservatives have surrendered the constitution, and you are worried about democrats meeting with hamas? buy a dog, name it clue...then you will have one.

jay kass,
The constitution hasn't been surrendered to anyone, don't you know, it's a living breathing document, maybe it grew up and you just don't recognize it anymore.

About the dog and the clue, sounds like someone's been watching too much Nick Jr.

you spelled chose wrong.

"Apparently WorldNetDaily, Malkin, and Frank trust the word of Hamas more than they trust the word of their fellow Americans. It also seems they love spreading Hamas propaganda."

When did the words coming out of the domestic terrorists mouths start being different from the foreign ones? Did the alliance end after the election?

liberals = domestic terrorists

tim mc veigh = freedom fighter

I wouldn't really be surprised if they did meet. I'm not buying into the rumor, it just wouldn't surprise me. After all, the Democrat's foreign policy is the same as their domestic policy: Give away so much undeserved free stuff (incentives, services, money, etc...) until everyone and everything is completely relient on their support. So they probably just want to start supplying Hamas with so many rockets and homicide vests to kill joooos with that they stop buying from their other supliers. Then once they are relient on Democrats that's when they have the leverage to legalize abortion in Lebanon. After that it's only a matter of time before there are no more terrorist babies. Boy the Dems sure outsmarted the Cons on this one.

spacemonkey...
you must be very afraid of the boogeymen from the middle east. you have not only willingly surrendered the constitution, you are in denial about it. you've also thrown away 2 trillion dollars because you are so afraid. thankfully we didn't have patriots like you at lexington and concord.

Wow...
Do you think that was real?
Did you think that he quoted that verbatim from the Hamas website (http://www.demslovehamas.com)?
Maybe you clicked on that link like a trained monkey.
Dude, it's a joke.
But, like all jokes, it is grounded in truth. Maybe they didn't meet directly. Maybe they met in a myspace chatroom.
Dem: "Hey, I just want peace"
Hamas nut: "Me, too. We need to kill the Jews... What is your name?"
Dem: "Um.. Mel Gibson.."
Hamas: "Great! We are on same side!"
Dem: "Whatever brings peace to the world"
Hamas:"My sword cutting off infidel heads will bring the peace you desire!"
Dem:"Great! We can just push the Israelis into a corner, and make them give back your land. After all, you took it from them fair and square way back."
Hamas: "Yeah. I vote dhimmicrat when i come to america and kill infidels with a riding lawn mower."
Dem "yeah, I hate republicans, too."

And there you have it.. The first "MySpace Accord"

Wow where did I say that about McVeigh? I can't find it in the transcript.

Liberals who want to to achieve the same things (America's Defeat) as the terrorist are ideologically the same as the terrorists in that respect.

Tim McVeigh was a domestic terrorist for sure.

Michael Moore was the one who said the Iraqi insurgents were freedom fighters. He's on the liberal's side of things but it's not America's side.

Honestly! this sick blog is totally UnAmerican! You would think that neocons truly believe that only conservatives join the military, fight and die for this country.

What do you idealogues have to say to those in the armed forces who heed "the call" and fight and die despite their disagreement with partisan right-wing-extremist foriegn polices?

This is the kind of snot-nosed tripe that is printed by those college-boy "Michael Keatons" who get thier political marching papers from AM radio talk show hosts who have to pause for a commercial break from those corporations who are gutting the middle class.

Why don't you folks grow da fook up?

You misspelled 'foreign'
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/foreign

Jay K.
I have to say, I'm impressed, how are you able to write all this stuff from the reeducation camp you got sent to for speaking the 'truth'? Most impressive.

And I am hardly a right wing extremist.

There were no neocons (none publicly called that) when I joined the military, yet I still managed to think that Democrats were the total enemy of all that was good and right in the world.
And -wow- I did it without Karl Rove, or Bush (41 or 43), or anyone else for that matter. It was the *people* that were the face of Democrats in the late 70's and early 80's that directly influenced that decision.

And really, this blog is pretty damn tame. If you want some hardcore "UnAmerican" speech, check out dailykos, kos it is full of anti-American bile.
Or maybe you only think it anti-American if it doesn't match your opinion?

It never ceases to amaze me that anyone could take anything on this blog seriously. Some of the above commenters probably think the "fringe" is really dead set on nuking the moon after coming here.

Ya hear that Frank? Apparently your blog is Sick AND UnAmerican. Man I've been reading this blog for years and all this time I thought you a patriot.

Like they say "Fool me once...
...
...
...Ya see if you fool me I can't get fooled again."

err... something like that. I think that phrase was officially changed or something. I like the new one better anyway.

Well I just found out that I too must be sick and unamerican so I'm going to go curl up in a ball and cry.

It never ceases to amaze me that anyone could take anything on this blog seriously. Some of the above commenters probably think the "fringe" is really dead set on nuking the moon after coming here.

Posted by: shaggydave on December 11, 2006 05:41 PM

It kinda puts comments I see on other blogs into perspective.

When somebody "I've been reading this blog for years..." and it's obvious they logged on for the first time five minutes ago, this is likely the MO for these guys at other blogs as well.

Imagine having nothing better to do during the day than surfing through the internet for stuff to get angry at - then to lie about being a long time reader of a internet blog in order to try to foist a guilt trip on some guy whose site you're visiting.

If you're a moon-bat reading this--listen, you have no life - I'm trying to figure out whether to feel pity for you or just annoyed

"Why don't you folks grow da fook up?"

That almost hurt as bad as:

"Why don't you get a life?"

Good thing I have my Jim Beam bottle next to me, if not I would cry...

infidels!

jay kass,
The constitution hasn't been surrendered to anyone, don't you know, it's a living breathing document, maybe it grew up and you just don't recognize it anymore.

About the dog and the clue, sounds like someone's been watching too much Nick Jr.

Posted by: spacemonkey on December 11, 2006 04:35 PM

Tell that to your brethern, the Chimperor. The creature has been wiping his reeking ass with both the Constitution AND the Bill of Rights.

Tell that to your brethern, the Chimperor. The creature has been wiping his reeking ass with both the Constitution AND the Bill of Rights.

He's calling Bush a "Chimperor" because Bush is like and an emperor and a chimp.

And this guys thinks that's "clever" because he is like retarded.

Tell that to your brethern, the Chimperor. The creature has been wiping his reeking ass with both the Constitution AND the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: on December 11, 2006 11:23 PM

Well as long as you guys weren't using it, we figured somebody ought to do something with it.

Your legal scholars, your justices, your academics, and the 5 people on your side who have actually read the constitution pay about as much attention to it as the El Paso phone book.

Cite something Bush has taken away from you and then get back to all of us.

No, your sanity doesn't count.

Republicans are terrorists. They are the ones who enabled the Dubbya creature and his henchmen to spy on and harass American citizens without getting the proper warrants. They are the ones who have curtailed our freedoms in the name of "protecting" us.

Had the Fratboy in Charge taken some action after being informed of the August 6, 2001, PBD outlining that Bin Lasen was getting ready to attack us using commercial aircrafts,9/11 would not have happened. Instead, the crminally stupid moron told the aide: "You have covered your ass now", then he went fishing. And then 9/11 happened. The Asswipe looked like a deer caught into the headlights for several long minutes then was swept away and flown all over the country all day long. Cheney was nowhere to be found. The country was totally devoid of leadership on one of its worst day in history. The Cowards in charge were busy covering their filthy asses. It was not until 8 p.m. when the Defecating-in-His-Pants Asshole of a President finally showed up on television. Talk about leadership!

9/11 has been the gift that has been going on giving to the Asswipe and his henchmen. They have milked it to death. Remember the Asswipe's clip that things woukd be easier if he were a dictator? It was not a joke.

He is a dictator (secret prisons, torture, denial of habeas corpus, etc...) on par with the Pinochets, Stalins, Pol Pots, Franco, and Hitlers of the world.

G.W.Bush is the first major scourge of the 21st century.

AMEN!

I like saying Amen to my own posts and pretending to be somebody else, so I'm just going to say Amen again.

AMEN!

Democrats are terrorists. They are the ones who enabled the FDR creature and his henchmen to spy on and harass American citizens without getting the proper warrants. They are the ones who have curtailed our freedoms in the name of "protecting" us.

Had the Fratboy in Charge taken some action after being informed of the in November 7, 1941, outlining that Japan was getting ready to attack us using aircraft, Pearl Harbor would not have happened. Instead, the crminally stupid moron told the aide: "You have covered your ass now", and drank a mint julep. And then Pearl Harbor happened. The Asswipe looked like a deer caught into the headlights for several long minutes then was swept away and flown all over the country all day long. Wallace was nowhere to be found. The country was totally devoid of leadership on one of its worst day in history. The Cowards in charge were busy covering their filthy asses. It was not until 1 p.m. when the Defecating-in-His-Pants Asshole of a President finally showed up on television. Talk about leadership!

Pearl Harbor has been the gift that has been going on giving to the Asswipe and his henchmen. They have milked it to death. Remember the Asswipe's clip that things would be easier if he were a dictator? It was not a joke.

He is a dictator (secret prisons, torture, denial of habeas corpus, etc...) on par with the Pinochets, Stalins, Pol Pots, Franco, and Hitlers of the world.

Franklin D. Roosevelt is the first major scourge of the 20th century.

Abolitionists are terrorists. They are the ones who enabled the Lincoln creature and his henchmen to spy on and harass American citizens without getting the proper warrants. They are the ones who have curtailed our freedoms in the name of "protecting" us.

Had the Fratboy in Charge taken some action after being informed that the Confederacy was getting ready to attack Fort Sumter, the Civil War would not have happened. Instead, the crminally stupid moron told the aide: "You have covered your ass now", and smoked a cigar. And then Civil War happened. The Asswipe looked like a deer caught into the headlights for several long minutes then was swept away and flown all over the country all day long. Hamlin was nowhere to be found. The country was totally devoid of leadership on one of its worst day in history. The Cowards in charge were busy covering their filthy asses. It was not until 8 p.m. whenever Fort Sumter was attacked when the Defecating-in-His-Pants Asshole of a President finally showed up at a telegraph. Talk about leadership!

The Civil War has been the gift that has been going on giving to the Asswipe and his henchmen. They have milked it to death. Remember the Asswipe's clip that things would be easier if he were a dictator? It was not a joke.

He is a dictator (secret prisons, torture, denial of habeas corpus, etc...) on par with the Pinochets, Stalins, Pol Pots, Franco, and Hitlers of the world.

Abraham Lincoln is the first major scourge of the 19th century.

Wow! This is the comment thread that keeps on giving! Frank, I don't think you even need to play "the game" with these guys; it's funny enough as it is.

I would love to see some proof from you guys about all the "constitution a**wiping" and whatnot. If that were actually happening, I would be concerned.

Your best arguments are: wiretapping without warrants and the "secret" prisons where torture happened. I will deal with them both.

First, I was quite worried about the wire-tapping until I read about the details, as published in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and several liberal blogs. You get the best damaging information from those who would like to see the target fall, so if something bad for Bush happens, I'll read about it from his detractors.
It seems that those wire-taps were only used on Americans when they were part of an international call to known terrorists, and when they used key words, like "bombs". I, for one, would like to see those calls watched. Do you think those kind of calls last long enough for the FBI to run down to the local (hah!) FISA court? I concede that Bush should have asked congress to change the law to one he could work with, but I'm ok with stop-gap measures to plug the dam in the meantime. Then again, FDR (and every subsequent President) ordered tapped phones with wild abandon, in similar circumstances, and look at how the country ended up. Maybe I should be worried.

Now, the "secret" prisons where torture happened. Again, I read everything I could about it from the usual suspects before making a decision. And, I'm sorry, but sleep deprivation is not torture. The waterboarding stuff (which I have researched extensively, and I will give you a disertation, if you are actually interested) is harder to dismiss, so I won't. It's a rough treatment. It has not, however, crossed the line into unbelievably bad torture. "Torture" to me, involves electrodes attatched to nuts, and possibly carbatterires, when there isn't actually whipping and balls and chains.

The people we're dealing with aren't exactly nice guys, and if we don't leave physical marks, then I think I'm ok with it. Remember that when they get their hands on an American, they often behead them. That's not exactly torture, but it's also not very nice.

Also, remember the class with which our military and government servants act. When something horrible happens (like when one of our own does horrible things), we own up to it. Abu Ghraib was not reported by a news agency. It was first disclosed in a Pentagon Press release, following a preliminary investigation run by the military after recieving a tip from their own. People who break the ROE's (which are far too tight, and lead to many unneccesary deaths. The only "appropriate" level of military force is the "overwhelming" level) are tried, convicted, and sent to jail - and that doesn't happen very often. Not because of cover ups, but because of the class with which our American military servicemen, (republicans or democrats alike; it doesn't matter, they're all Americans) act in every situation.

Like I said above, I'd love to hear some more detailed claims from you guys, but I think you'll just give me more propaganda. Now, I like propaganda. It's fun to study, and it makes for some amazing posters and bumper stickers, but it isn't really good for making decisions and opinions. I don't think most things that have happened in the past few years lead up to fascism. If you'd like to see some real fascism, take a look at Russia or Venezuela. Until we start rounding up people like you, who "speak truth to power," into internment camps, I'll watch, wait, and not go off my rocker. Thanks. I hope you enjoyed my reasoned rant.

DEMOCRATS: Well, we have a big problem in Iraq. Our solution to that is to raise the minimum wage. Have you tried that?

Interesting attempt at satire, but you've got it backwards. One of the first priorities of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq was to institute a flat tax. As we all know, that solved everything.

The Constitution is a living document only when explicitly stated so in itself. Until then, it is exact and explicit, on how to alter it. If you do not have the courage or followers to make an amendment, then read it exactly as it is written-COWARDS.

The WarMonkeys are well past the point of sane discourse. The Kool-Aid has so addled their brains that they are now completely unhinged.

Remember, WarMonkeys and Chickenshit Chickenhawks, you are part of a demented fringe. Get it? As in a puny minority?

"Interesting attempt at satire, but you've got it backwards. One of the first priorities of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq was to institute a flat tax. As we all know, that solved everything.

Posted by: Punditguy on December 12, 2006 08:36 AM"

The CPA also asserted that it could turn lead into gold.

Frank...I think you can finally end the study. You now have more than enough data to prove that liberals are driven insane by anything that vaguely resembles humor. How could you collect this many moonbat droppings and not get a single mention of Halliburton?

"There were no neocons (none publicly called that) when I joined the military, yet I still managed to think that Democrats were the total enemy of all that was good and right in the world."

Let me rewrite that for you:

"There were no neocons (none publicly called that) when I joined the military, yet I still managed to think that 33% of all americans were the total enemy of all that was good and right in the world."

"Cite something Bush has taken away from you and then get back to all of us."

My right to be secure in my houses, papers, and effects:
The privacy of my google searches.
The privacy of my phone calls.
My Glaucoma medicine.

I suppose I'm lucky that I wasn't turned over to the army by an afghan warlord for cash, or the list would include:
Habeas Corpus
My dignity
My human right not to be tortured.

Of course, the problem isn't what GWB has taken from any individual, but what he has done to our government as a whole. Take presidential signing statements, for example. If you don't know what signing statements are (most conservatives don't), then you do in fact need a clue, and can use google to find one. If you do know what they are, then you already know what I'm talking about.

"Cite something Bush has taken away from you and then get back to all of us."

My right to be secure in my houses, papers, and effects:
The privacy of my google searches.
The privacy of my phone calls.
My Glaucoma medicine.

Oh dear God - in World War II

-- when the government was directly censoring the news
-- when it was editing letters from troops back home
-- when it controlled who could and couldn't take photos on the front lines
-- When it was putting prisoners of war in camps on U.S. without trial...

Or in the Civil War, when

- Lincoln suspended habeas corpus for an entire state and imprisoned the governor
- the U.S. instituted prison camps that would make Guantanamo look like the Four Seasons...

. . . nobody cared about your mother's Glaucoma medicine. If you had been found writing letters or sending signals to the enemy, depending on the circumstances you could have been executed on the spot.

The privacy of your Google searches is not a Constitutional right and considering that Google told the U.S. to get lost when it tried to do that, but then turned around and voluntarily sucked up to the dictatorship in China--you’re priorities are a little out of whack if you look at the world today and see George Bush as the biggest threat to freedom. There’s a guy in Russia openly assassinating journalists or dissidents who question his policies and you’re worried about google searches and your mother’s Glaucoma medicine.

I suppose I'm lucky that I wasn't turned over to the army by an afghan warlord for cash, or the list would include:
Habeas Corpus
My dignity
My human right not to be tortured

Yeah, because the U.S. Constitution applies to the citizens of Afghanistan.

Here’s a test of whether a part of the U.S. Constitution applies to a foreign country:

1. go to the country
2. preach freedom of religion
3. if they stone you or slice off your head, the U.S. Constitution doesn’t apply

It didn’t apply when we executed SS officers on the spot and, for that matter, it didn’t apply when they capture our troops or journalists and behead them.

As cool as it would be for every person to be subject to the U.S. Constitution, the Iranians/Syrians/U.N./Taliban would stone you if you tried to make that argument in front of them.

Even when posting in the comments, liberals always sound like they're yelling or crying.

http://www.godspath.com/PAGES/FREEDOM_POLITICS/IMAGES/Democratic%20Party%20seal.jpg

Oh, dear Lord.

I'm going to state this slowly (yeah, I know, but you can read it slowly), so you can be sure to get it:

HABEAS CORPUS DOES NOT APPLY TO ENEMIES CAPTURED ON A FOREIGN BATTLEFIELD.

FrankJ, you are a veritable firebrand!

The stuff in quotes is from ME. My responses come after the end of the quotes.

"My right to be secure in my houses, papers, and effects:"
When was this threatened? Are you a member of organized crime or terrorist cells? Do you actively preach the destruction of America? Because, if you don't you've got nothing more to worry about than you did in 1999. And if you do (preach destruction, etc.), well, then I don't particularly care about you feeling secure in you houses, effects, yadda, yadda.

The privacy of my google searches.

This was never threatened. The list requested never linked IP addresses to searches. They wanted a list of the number of times someone was googling for PORN. And they wanted to read the list so that they could find all the euphemisms. The rest of the search engines realized this was not troublesome, and cooperated with the court (not the executive branch, so Bush had nothing to do with it.) But google made a stink. And they rolled over so that China could rub their belly.

The privacy of my phone calls.

Do you make international phone calls to terrorists? Any domestic calls you make still need a warrant. Only international calls that come from suspected terrorists to this country were monitored. And like I said before, if those kinds of people are calling you, well, I don't particularly care about you having private phone calls. If you're not a terrorist, and those kind of people call you, then I hope you would want to cooperate to prevent death. If not, again...I don't particularly care.

My Glaucoma medicine.

Huh? Maybe this one has legs. I haven't heard about this yet...
Is it part of the liquids on airplanes thing? You know, I fly kind of a lot, and I only have trouble when I look like I'm trying to hide the liquids (by mistake). Perhaps you didn't use the plastic baggies?

As far as the habeous corpus stuff goes - you're right, we should give them the same rights and responsibilities as american citizens...of course, the only way we could do that is to forcibly take them over. And I don't think they'd be so excited about letting women go to school or drive a car. Or walk around outside. Or, let anyone they disagreed with speak up. I don't know, maybe we should just let them stay non-americans, and only keep the dangerous ones under our care, so they can't hurt other people.

Eh, I guess I never really got around to putting in the quotes.
It seems pretty clear to me though, so I'll trust that people are smart enough to figure it out.

"My Glaucoma medicine."

He's talking about his ganja. And I thought that stoners were supposed to be shiny, happy people holding hands. Silly me, what right do I have to think.

//"My right to be secure in my houses, papers, and effects:"//

You could also solve this one by OWNING A GUN, you leftard moron!

I figured the glaucoma "medicine" was weed too. They're shiny and happy as long as they get their FIX, Cur, especially if they can get the taxes of hardworking folks to pay for it. You take that away and watch them get their panties in a wad.

""My Glaucoma medicine."

He's talking about his ganja. And I thought that stoners were supposed to be shiny, happy people holding hands. Silly me, what right do I have to think."

I thought it was supposed to be bush's fault? Doesn't the war on drugs predate him? And haven't we really kind of given up, once the stuff gets into this country? Oh well, I guess I can't make sense of it, no matter how hard I try...

and, I know several people who have no trouble finding the stuff, and lighters to go with it...maybe I should put you guys in touch so that you can compare strategies? Anyway, my point was that it didn't really support his thesis, so I was looking for more info...

"I figured the glaucoma "medicine" was weed too."

duhh -

I assumed he actually meant Glaucoma and he was talking about his grandparents, I should have guessed that one.

You know I really don't remember reading about my "Right" to glaucoma medication in the constitution, guess i missed that page, but if it is in there then why don't I have any. Granted I don't have glaucoma, but the constitution says I should have medicine for it. I suppose my lack of medication is Bush's fault.

The "Glaucoma Ammendment" is right between the "Right to Kill Unborn Humans" ammendment and the "Right to Gay Marriage" ammendment.

Good luck finding it.

Actually, glaucoma medicine makes this site a lot funnier.

Hey man...my "glaucoma medicine" is most seriously interfering with my Googlic search on habeus corpus while I'm calling my pals in certain "social clubs" in the middle east. And the toaster is laughing at me... Anybody got any Doritos?

Hey, stop bashing the glaucoma medicine. It's fan....

What were we just talking about?