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January 06, 2007
Weekend Open Thread
Well, it's that time of week again, the end of it. That fabled time when your favorite blog hardly ever has anything new posted. So, here's some more nothing. I take that back, here's something. I thought this was pretty funny in a not intentional way. It's a prediction of sorts that is at the same time funny and pathetic. Read it and tell me what YOU think. 41 Responses To "Weekend Open Thread"
A final theory of everything - wow! I can't wait to hear the one for Taylor Hicks. I bet even Einstein couldn't figure that one out! Also, you've really gotta admire Simon Baron-Cohen. What with the success of "Borat", where does he find the time to work with all those autistic kids? #1 - Posted by: bunkerboy on January 6, 2007 12:54 PMI agree; it wasn't intentionally funny, but was, and is pathetic. I think the "thinkers" need to take that extra time to re- think this. These so-called intellectuals sit in their ivory towers and project their self-proclaimed brilliance on the whole world like they ARE God. That's border-line retarded! #2 - Posted by: Pork & Beans on January 6, 2007 01:03 PMWe're gonna live a lot longer? Oh boy! I'm gonna spend the extra years eating chalupas (from Taco Bell, not from Leo). #3 - Posted by: joerockhead on January 6, 2007 01:35 PM>Simon Baron Cohen Borat, is that you? >"There is a remarkably good fit between the autistic mind and the digital age," he said. Well, I guess he reads Kos and DU. >"We will be able to regenerate parts of the brain that have been worn out. But will brain transplant be possible for the liberals, who've been sadly born without? #4 - Posted by: Francesco Poli on January 6, 2007 02:49 PMI clicked on the link. Can someone remind me where I was going with this? #5 - Posted by: Brian the sailor on January 6, 2007 03:30 PMI meant "optimistic." I hate to misspell! Puts me in a murderous rage, it does! Not like Rumsfeld or anything. More like an angry badger. #6 - Posted by: Brian the sailor on January 6, 2007 03:34 PMSounds like they were watching Stallone's movie Demolition Man when they came up with these theories. #7 - Posted by: danc on January 6, 2007 03:37 PMMr. Spacemonkey, is there any way you IMAO types could get the trackbacks working again so I don't feel tempted to put links in the comments section? #8 - Posted by: fmragtops on January 6, 2007 03:43 PMScientists talking about how science will beat religion down & make life better. Someone ought to remind them that science allows for better, more efficient warfare, and that the faith in unknown or unseen scientific principals is a just like religion. I refer you all to a speech by Michael Chriton: www.michaelcrichton.net/speeches/speeches_quote04.html It also sheds light on the global warming hype that is soooo prevalent among the scientific community & the liberal moonbats who follow along like li'l sheep. #9 - Posted by: AlanABQ on January 6, 2007 05:04 PMI kind of skimmed the whole thing, but was amused nonetheless. To believe we'll have final theories about anything is ballsy in the extreme,esepcially when we can't even figure out the theory of Algore's appeal. You must, however, take seriously a scientist named Chalupa. #10 - Posted by: PaleoMedic on January 6, 2007 05:06 PMIf I thought anybody READ the Guardian, I'd tell the guys to do a parody entitled "No Israel and an end to Jews: how Iranians see the future." The problem is the Guardian is like the Washington Post. It gets cited all over the frick'n place, but nobody actually buys and READS the lame piece of crap. So nobody but you guys would get the gag. Oh, well... BTW, that speech is kinda long, but well worth the read. It's funny, too. Here's the address again: www.michaelcrichton.net/speeches/speeches_quote04.html #12 - Posted by: AlanABQ on January 6, 2007 05:14 PMImagine there's no countries I might say you're a dreamer, Just joshin' ya, Pete. It wasn't all directed at you; I just can't stand that song. It sounds like an anthem for socialism. #15 - Posted by: AlanABQ on January 6, 2007 06:00 PMImagine is The Communist Manifesto set to music. Also, if science gets rid of religion it will just be replacing one religion with another. #16 - Posted by: fmragtops on January 6, 2007 06:13 PMhave you seen the name of the guy ? Alok Jha? Who can be so stupid to tust a man with this name writing an article about the future according to Borat ? I'd rather prefer to live in the glorious past of the Stone Age. #18 - Posted by: Brutus on January 6, 2007 07:32 PMWasn't religion supposed to go the way of the dinosaurs during Plato's lifetime. "My word will not return void." Too bad these clowns forget history, now they are doomed to repeat the same dumb mistakes, especially about the disappearence of faith. #19 - Posted by: allthatsright on January 6, 2007 09:06 PMI declare a jihad against thinkers! No more thinking. Ever. #20 - Posted by: K T Cat on January 6, 2007 09:38 PMI think I agree with K T. #21 - Posted by: AlanABQ on January 6, 2007 11:00 PM"No more thinking. Ever." Well, it DOES hurt. #22 - Posted by: spacemonkey on January 7, 2007 12:41 AMAnd I'm Santa Claus and Frank is the tooth fairy #23 - Posted by: Independent Conservative on January 7, 2007 01:43 AMDaniel Denett: The spread of information through the internet and mobile phones will "gently, irresistibly, undermine the mindsets requisite for religious fanaticism and intolerance" GBarto: The spread of information through the internet and mobile phones will assure that you can check out Britney Spears crotch shots and the speeches of Osama Bin Laden 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, sealing in perpetuity the decadence of the West and the intolerance of the Mohammedans. And they'll still probably skimp on the IMAO podcasts that are our only solace in this cold and cruel world. #24 - Posted by: GBarto on January 7, 2007 03:10 AMSpacemonkey, It does hurt. Makes you want to swear off thinking and become autistic. It hurts because writers like that can stack it so high and fast it's next to impossible to knock down without getting some on you. These other posts are a pretty decent antidote though - Thanks! #25 - Posted by: Alaska Pete on January 7, 2007 03:19 AMWhat if-after all the science is done, the theories are actually put into mathematical equations, the whole universe is defined to our liking-what if it proves that there is an 'agent' responsible for the creation? I mean, Einstein himself was convinced there is a God ("I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details"), albeit undefineable by our limited thinking capacity. Wouldn't that just be the just dessert for these scientists? To find God (if He actually exists...I'll straddle the fence here) sitting right there in their equations? Just smilin'..... #26 - Posted by: serr8d on January 7, 2007 11:38 AMIt’s called speculating wildly on things about which you know nothing. Lets face it; everybody loves to do it. Intellectuals even more so. It’s called speaking with authority in a subject area where you have no expertise and probably have invested little time to getting your head around the subject in question. Not only are we asking for familiarity with completely different intellectual paradigms, we are asking for bold predictions about the future. Does a physicist or psychologist know his history. How many Biologists are really good at comparative theology. I’m completely appalled that art historians weren’t asked about the aging process. I love this quote: “Biologist Richard Dawkins said that physicists would give religion another problem: a theory of everything that would complete Albert Einstein's dream of unifying the fundamental laws of physics. " So what does a biologist know about Grand Unified Theories of physics. By the way a Grand Unified Theory is not a theory of everything but would tie all the physical forces together (electromagnetic, strong, weak, gravity). So what bearing does this have on religion; little to none. It doesn’t even approach questions of how things got that way. I see it continues to be fashionable to blame religious intolerance for everything, as if that were at the root of all problems. So the great wars of the first half of the 20th century were caused by religion? I don’t think so. I might suggest something like the convulsive rise of the modern nation state. Since the French revolution there has been an ongoing debate about how best a modern state should govern itself and the structure of modern society. Sure ugly ancient prejudices played their parts in the great wars, but that is the ugly face of war not necessarily its root. I am also wary when intellectuals play the class card, pretending that some day they will get the great unwashed to see things their way. As if history was actually lined up with good doer’s on one side and the superstitious troglodytes always on the other side holding back progress. Give me a break! If you see your place in history this way, you need to sit in on George Bushes Sunday school class rather than call yourself a thinker. Stupidity doesn’t respect boarders of class and race, and having an education doesn’t always seem to help ether. So the educated classes have their own set of biases. Who would have thought. I hope this article isn’t indicative of Alok Jha’s work, mindless bias and fluff. I could pick more of it apart, but you get the jest of it. This article is full of gas! I recall someone saying this exact same thing before. I think it was in WWI A.K.A. "the war to end all wars". Anyone who thinks war is going to disappear because of science is a complete idiot. The Commies tried for a hundred years to replace religion with ideology. Didn't work. What chance does science have of replacing religion with data? #29 - Posted by: Greg on January 7, 2007 04:19 PMPerhaps I should clarify about my crack about George Bushes Sunday school class. “What chance does science have of replacing religion with data?” If the main purpose of religions is to provide a moral and ethical framework for how a society conducts itself and sees it’s place in the universe than science will always be peripheral to the subject of religion. There is no science of ethics. Human behavioral studies might impact ones view on some religious practices but your still left with the problem of how to set up an ethical society. There are other places were science and religion do clash such as indeterminism in quantum physics being at odds with a religious need among some for an absolutely deterministic world where all action has some absolute purpose and a supreme being control over everything. Such a belief in deterministic purpose in religion may have as much to do with 19th century mechanistic views of the universe as any actual Biblical viewpoint. The biggest point of contention would be with religious creation beliefs. Science does contradict Genesis. Even if science does win that sort of argument it doesn’t undermine or even address most fundamental precepts within much of religion. On that subject, my point is we could get into the creationism argument all we wanted, and still not touch at most of the core of Christian teaching. You and I may completely disagree on this but it remains that science and religion don’t overlap at too many points. You can’t get from religion to science or vice versa. Have I let off enough gas yet? #32 - Posted by: Neo-andertal on January 7, 2007 05:37 PMHah! I love it when the scientific socialist hold up Einstein as the symbol of ireligous science. What they all happen to forget is that in his final few years, Einstein saw such order in the universe and physics, that he came to believe there was no otehr posibility than to have an intellagent designer. Chalupas! #34 - Posted by: joerockhead on January 7, 2007 11:11 PMLet's see, when Mooselims stop killing Mooslims and everyone else who isn't a follower of the Religion of Peas then the world will be calmer, fewer wars etc. Religion isn't the root cause of all problems, and it is the answer to far many more problems. Hang all the thinkers, burn the books and goose step your ass down to taco bell for a chalupa! #35 - Posted by: captamerica on January 8, 2007 09:56 AMThat was hilarious! These people are so dead set against the Bible....... #36 - Posted by: on January 8, 2007 10:08 AMWe already know the answer to the ultimate question. 42 What we don't know is what is the question. I know the question and I ain't telling. OT, but since this is an open thread I guess it's On Topic. //And they'll still probably skimp on the IMAO podcasts that are our only solace in this cold and cruel world.// IMAO has podcasts? I thought that was just a wild rumor. There's a link but it only goes to ancient archeological recordings. I think the mythbusters busted this one long ago. #39 - Posted by: Moneyman on January 8, 2007 02:08 PM South Park already covered this. For those who didn't see it, the athiests go to war over the ultimate question - what they should call themselves. #41 - Posted by: will.see on January 13, 2007 08:55 AMPost a comment
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