"I still like the shoes, though."
And there's your silver lining :)

Men's wearhouse is a cult.

Once you realize you are in, it's too late. You've already been fitted for black Nikes with silver swooshes, they've castrated you and it's all over but the Kool-aid.

Watch their commercials: Everyone's so happy to be putting nooses around their necks. Nobody sane likes wearing ties. It's a useless piece of fabric, it's tight, expensive, falls into the sink when you have to wash your hands, and just one more thing for someone to use against you in a fight. ("Tap out!")

Enjoy the shoes, though. Good shoes are important. You'll spend at least half of your life walking or running. Unless they're Black Nikes with Silver swooshes. Then you're toast.

Kool-aid anyone?

If only they made some sort of machine that could communicate across the world in some sort of INTERconnected NETwork. That way when someone flags the account everyone that looks at will see what the problem is.

*Sigh* I guess that is only a fevered dream. If only I had the power of a Vice President to invent such a thing.

Do not be fooled by "Mary". Unlike "Phil", she is no true Indian but a filthy Bangladeshi immigrant who snuck into our country to take jobs away from the Hindi people!

I had a bank sending me monthly statements for 3 years because they claimed I had inadvertantly left 32 cents in a checking account I had meant to close. I had thought that my last check had cleaned it out and shreaded the remaining checks.

After getting the first first month, I called them to try and close the account but they said (and were not nice about it) that I had to come in in person to close the account or buy a new box of checks to write a 32 cent check to eliminate the balance.

I pointed out that I was now 1200 miles away from their nearest branch and closing in person would be impractical. I was also unwilling to spend $6 bucks on checks to claim 32 cents. They were unwilling to send me a bench check from their bank I could use to clean out the account. Their suggestion was that I get one of my friends to send me a bench check.

So we had reached an impass and they kept sending the statements (coincidentally at 32 cents a pop) for the remaining 35 months they needed to declare the account to be abandoned.

Did you ever try to call that greasy George guy that does their TV ads and says “I guarantee it”? I don’t EVER shop at a chain store of ANYKIND for ANY REASON! If I need to buy it at a large national store…I don’t need to buy it…PERIOD!

I only buy my clothes from small local retailers. I pay more but never have issues like this and I have been buying from the same sales guy for 17 years and I like and trust him. That is worth a few sheckles!

Yesterday when Frank was on the phone with American customer service, I was in the background saying, "Ask if you can speak with George Zimmer."

The important question is "Do you like the way you look?" Did they ever once, in all the harassing, ask if you liked the way you look?

They wouldn't be so angry with you if you hadn't killed their crack squad of monkey collection officers recently. As long as that one monkey lives, your credit report will always show you as delinquent.

I've been having horrible problems with my bank ever since my purse was stolen over 2 months ago. They had no plan whatsoever for what to do if an account was compromised, other than closing the account. I stopped all the ACH debits I could (it happened right at bill pay time) but there were some big ones that I couldn't stop, and they told me I would have to leave this account with all this money in it wide open to the universe until the debits cleared. Meanwhile the thieves had my checkbook and ID, and the bank told me they would not stop any checks they wrote from clearing unless I put a stop payment on each and every check in my stolen checkbook (at $25 a pop) and I had to know the check numbers of the missing checks (which I didn't because the register was with the checkbook). Once all that passed, I closed the account FIVE times because they kept allowing new charges on the closed account, then after I'd take care of them and close the account, they'd reopen the account to charge me overdraft fees. Finally I persuaded them to really close the account for good, but then their online bill pay inexplicably decided to switch from the new account back to the old account (which was now closed) so all our bill pay checks bounced.

I'm switching banks.

"That combined with the fact I'm going to cancel my credit with them and never do business with Men's Wearhouse again"

Don't forget all the people who read this blog who will never buy from them. You wield incredible power, I just hope you always use it for good.

Having just returned from China, I totally agree with cash only. Just fork over the RMB's and everyone is happy after that 30 minutes of haggling. "No take - ee credit card - ee... Cash On - ree, preez...." It works!

I cannot recount the number of times that we have gotten these same credit collecter snafu crap with our health insurance just like Frank's.
It'a all a big cluster f___.

I'll try the Cash On Ree Preeze? But I think the stores I shop at will say Brow Me...

Personally, I prefer shopping at Victoria's Secret. Lace panties makes me feel pretty.

Here's the test: Do the shoes squeak? 'Cause, if they DO squeak, you actually owe them that $38.95. Since new shoes always squeak 'til they're paid for.

Your un-American behavior is being punished. You should realize the damage done to your credit isn't instantly OR automatically repaired, much less the time and aggravation you have endured due to no fault of your own. Therefore, you should get a lawyer and sue them for $10 million. Nothing gets action like papers being served.

I remember some 30 years ago the city in which I lived had just gone to computer billing for their gas, water, and sewer utilities. An acquaintance moved out of his apartment and paid off his last bills. They kept forwarding him a bill for $0.00, which he ignored. Then they started sending him dunning letters, warning of the danger to his credit, etc., and threatening further actions. He called, talked to a human, was assured it was just a glitch and would be immediately corrected.

The bills kept coming, though, with ever more dire warnings. Another call, more assurances, but still they came.

Finally he sent them a check for $0.00, and the bills stopped coming.

You tried to break the failed system, it is all your fault. I can't wait until health care is like this.

Damn... now I almost don't want to go there. I went there a few years ago and got two great looking suits, shirts, ties, coat... etc. Now, I'm married, put on a few pounds, and great looking navy blue suit doesn't fit.

Send them a bill for all the phone calls they made to you, then call them until they pay it.

DoubleU: Oh don't get me started. Just this week I believe I finally resolved a billing error dispute with the hospital where my son was born. He is 2 1/2 years old. I let him talk to the "costomer service assistant" for a minute while I ran to grab a file. He told her he had to get back to his Backyardigans show and she thought he was very cute. I think that cute factor may have helped us finnaly get this whole thing resolved.

Haqve you checked your credit report? After what they put you through, Men's Wearhouse should offer you a free check from the major reporting services.

A client of mine got her yearly electricity bill and had to pay 89€ extra, which she did.
Then she got a letter from the government confirming that, as a handicaped person, she could benefit from the "social tarif" and was urged to send that letter to her electricity company, which she did.
The electricity company then recalculated her bill, at the tarif she asked, and concluded that she had to pay another 200€ extra, because their normal tarif was lower than the social tarif.
The electricity company refused to back down on their claim, because she had indeed asked for the social tarif and now she was stuck with it.