"disagree with the statement mad in reference to me." - o.O
Can it get that mad?

[I hate proofreading myself because it means I have to read myself and I'm a horrible writer. -Ed.]

Come on Frank, it's not like anybody discovered anything important from something as mundane as taking their dog for a walk, or taking a bath, that's just silly.

The only thing I ever discovered in the bathtub is that I can capsize my rubber duck soap holder with one good fart...

Kekule figured out benzene's structure after dreaming about a snake eating its own tail - he was into oriental mysticism I believe. And Einstein started to piece together relativity after having a dream about cows trying to outrun the charge on electric fences. Velcro was developed and patented by a guy who couldn't get over how brambles stuck in his dog's fur. The big ideas almost always come by accident in an imaginative leap.

When all is said in done, we will learn that global warming isn't anthropogenic, but is happening. As the earth grows warmer, and humanity retreats underground, a stoner will go out to potty his dog and notice it's cooler in the smoky haze of his afternoon's entertainment. Word will somehow get out and humanity will find its salvation in the clouding of our atmosphere with heat-reflecting psychedelic happy dust.

An aging Al Gore will claim it was his idea.

"Hawking now says that, instead of destroying data, a black hole will eventually spit it out in a mangled form - much like shoving a classified document down your pants and then later pulling it out again."

I think you've just solved a long standing question about the New York Times for me.

I hope Al Gore takes his dog for a walk and the dog turns around and bites the shit out of him for being a dick. I'm an animal lover!

I guess it's now up to every Liberal to decide when you can have an idea? Priceless. How they wish they had the same Jedi-like mind control that the Clintons have over them.

I guess there are Liberal-approved times for thinking. Like, it's probably OK to ponder a new thought while hiding with your paint can hoping someone wearing fur will walk by. Or, maybe while you're sitting in a tent outside a house owned by a President waiting for CNN to show up because the DNC promised they would. Or, maybe while you're inserting a cigar into an intern. Or, perhaps while walking to meet television cameras to embolden the enemy that's fighting our soldiers. Or, on the plane ride to meet with the leaders of a terrorist state to deliver a phony message from Israel...

Well, I guess the list goes on and on. Just don't dare let your mind wander while walking your dog. That would be wrong.

FrankJ:

Did someone get their feelings hurt? Just because mean old Wonkette basically said you are an idiot for thinking that your ruminations about science while taking your dog out to do his business is the same as rigorous scientific research?

Of course, you do a great job of following up that post up by implying that Stephen Hawking's contributions to human knowledge and understanding of the universe are worthless because we can not immediately use this knowledge to play "My Umbrella" on a cell phone.

By the way, as an engineer, are you saying that basic scientific research has not enabled the development of new technologies? Cause, last time I checked, the atomic bomb, laser guided missiles, night vision goggles and all that other cool military stuff you love were developed thanks to basic scientific research.

Peace,

Monkey Faced Liberal

P.S. Just as an FYI -- Global warming is occurring, human activity is a major reason for why it is occurring, and we better get off our asses and do something about it soon. At least, that is what all the scientists who worked on the IPCC report on the Physical Science basis for global warming think.

Of course, what do the 1220 scientists who wrote and reviewed this report know? They most likely never take their dogs for walks. And I bet they haven't created any games as cool as Counter-Strike.

P.P.S. I agree with you on one point you have made here. As you stated in the first comment, you are a horrible writer.

Monkey Faced Liberal you make me laugh. I don't *think* you are being sarcastic but the utter lack of intellect in your writings makes me think twice about that. Please clarify.

Perhaps the MF Liberal (now THERE'S a more appropriate appellation, given his ramblings) could acknowledge the following:

1. At various times, this planet has been tropical pole-to-pole, desert pole-to-pole, and of course, virtually a sheet of ice not once, but multiple times, over the eons.

2. The planet Mars, so far away that even the gusts of HOT AIR from Al Gore, Ted Kennedy and the MF Liberal can't effect climate shift there, is, in fact, experiencing an observable climate shift.

3. Meteorology is a Physics major. Upon review of his screed, I suspect that the MF Liberal is a failed Theatre major who believes STRING THEORY refers to advanced knot-tying.

4. The fact that a large number of so-called "scientists" have pushed this agenda is meaningless. Virtually all of them are clearly outside their areas of specialty. Sadly, many are even outside their areas of education. In the mid-1970's, huge numbers of people who REALLY should have known better were warning of a swiftly advancing ICE AGE. When a sufficient number of paleoclimatologists sign on to this "global warming" tripe, I'll cheerily subscribe. Until then, I'll go with what I know, what I was taught, and what I teach- that the climate is ever-changing, and that climate-shift, which is a scientific reality, is caused by variables in the Earth's orbit, the Sun's output, and myriad other factors.

And Frank J. rules. So shove it, needle-dick.

This latest argument reminds me of one I heard a long time ago in the old country. A man stated that, since other persons had died of natural causes before, that proved that he hadn't murdered his aunt. "It is happening even now to your own mother!" he screamed at the judge. "How could I be responsible for death when it is naturally-occuring in other people?"

He was eventually stoned to death by the onlookers. But he taught us all a valuable lesson that day: Do not insult the judge's mother.

Frank said:

I'm an engineer. It's all a bunch unproven BS to me until I can build something out of it.

MFL said:

...last time I checked, the atomic bomb, laser guided missiles, night vision goggles and all that other cool military stuff you love were developed thanks to basic scientific research.

Yes, science devoloped those things, then engineers designed and built them.
What Frank said is valid.

[Someone actually bothered to read that guy? -Ed.]

FrankJ:

I once took a science class in college one time and heard Stephen Hawking's name in a couple NPR segments, so I'm going to spout off on science! for a couple paragraphs - but hopefully not too much in depth for you to realize I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Ha! did you think I'd actually leave you?

Did you think you could get rid of me that easily?

I know I said I'd never post here again, but I’ve said that a bunch of times - did you actually expect me to mean it this once?

In point of fact though, you’re wrong - you’re ALL wrong

I've done just fine these past few months without you

At first I was afraid

I was petrified

Kept thinking I could never live
without you by my side

But I spent so many nights
thinking how you did me wrong
I grew strong

I learned how to carry on

and so you're back
from outer space
I just walked in to find you here
with that sad look upon your face

I should have changed my stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key
If I had known for just one second
you'd be back to bother me

Go on now go walk out the door
Just turn around now
'Cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
You think I'd crumble
You think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
As long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
And I'll survive
I will survive.

Al Gore is a Super Genius.

He did invent the 1.6 gallon per flush toilet to replace the 3.0 gallon per flush toilet.

Come to think of it though, I never only flush that toy toilet once, twice at minimum, Gee that's 3.2 gallons. I've wasted .2 gallons over and above using the toilet that actually worked.

And if I happen to think of Uncle Al, because I have to reach for the plumbers helper one more time, I flush it a couple more times in his honor.
That's 6.4 gallons Al, in case you're having trouble with the math.

Build a better iPhone? It is impossible! Everything that Apple produces is perfect! Perfect, I tell you!

I just wanted to get that in before the iMinions swarm all over you.

If the liberals of the world shut their mouths for 30 minutes, the global warming 'problem' would clear itself up....

I once thought I agreed with the whole global warming thing, then I realized I had forgotten to turn the oven off once the meatloaf was done...silly me!

If Wonkette was more widely read he/she would have also slammed Frank for butchering the Terry Pratchett turtle idea he "borrowed"

I find it interesting that our trolls sought to vilify Frank for his "opinions". Following the Liberal hand book they then go on to give us their unsolicited opinions. Can any one say "hypocrisy"."

Isaac Newton was sitting under a tree pondering the great and wondrous thoughts he was often pondering, when things clicked into place for him. Ideas come to people anywhere. In the bath, on the john, in the car, on a walk and even in a lab. Seems to me anyone who spends their time trying to argue about that has way too much time on their hands.

As far as Mr. Hawking, given his disabilities he has both the time and opportunity to think great thoughts. Just because he thinks them doesn't make them fact or true. Otherwise people like our trolls would be green and have long orange tails (that's how I imagine them anyway)

Apple may not be perfect but if it were left up to the geniuses at Microsoft and Mr. Gates we'd still be dealing with dos and floppy disks and paying a monthly fee to them for the privilege. (How they got away with stealing "windows" is beyond me. I've had a Mac since 1986 and it came equipped with "windows". That how it has always worked.)

MFL, did you notice a couple of weeks ago, when the Swedish Academy of Science filed suit against the IPCC and its ruling concerning Global Warming? It is very interesting reading, including numbers the IPCC added to the report that show no record of where they came from.

More to the point, Environmental Geologists, the people who actually study Ice Cores and analyze historical Climate Change have had one thing to say:
...typically, we see a spike in Carbon Dioxide at the end of Global Warming cycles..."
This would suggest the problem we are facing is "Global Cooling".

Sarcasm Man,
Terry Pratchett stole the idea first. It is common in Polynesian Mythology, with a number of variations.