That's a great concept: Occam's Bat. For when his razor just won't cut it.

You CRACKERS are all alike!! Liars! You love Gooberyawni because you HATE all people except rich white people. You and your Wal-Mart exploration of the poor! You and your frizbees in the church parking lot! I wish Gooberyawni had fleas in his shorts so you could smell the sores! Buy for now I'm never reading this sight again!

Well, I sincerely hope people of both parties will listen to Fred Thompson once he joins the race, because when you do, you realize the depth of his views, even if you don't agree with him on everything! The fact that he doesn't "need the presidency" (i.e. "power") is a big clue.

Frank, how can you be so mean-spirited? They're just expressing how they feel, and if it so happens that they how they feel racially about every issue, is that your problem? I mean, what kind of emotional straight-jacket are you wearing, that you feel we should get past race before every ounce of political capitol has been extracted from it?

I have reached the point in my life when I am flat out sick and tired of people telling me what I think!!!!!!!!

I am also just contrary enough to say "Since I've been hearing all my life how prejudiced I am, I'm done. I'm done trying to accept people as individuals, I'm done trying to do unto others as I would have them do unto me, I'm tired of teaching my children and grandchildren that we are all the same under the skin. From now on I will (like Liberals everywhere) apply the race card to everything.
From abortion to zoning, everything will contain a racial component. I won't vote for someone who isn't white no matter how much I agree with their positions and I won't interact with minorities in any way, shape or form."

Except of course I won't. I know the difference between right and wrong. I know what my responsibilities are to my fellow human beings (dare I say my brothers and sisters). More than that I don't want to live in a world influenced in any way by those cretins at the Daily Krap.

May they be eaten by the cat and may the devil eat the cat.

The great thing about moonbats is that just when you think they can't get any moonbattier they come out and prove you wrong.

Way to go nutjobs - keep us entertained. Especially on Fridays in the middle of the most boring month of the year.

"Can you believe the Democratic Party is actually pretending to listen to these people?"

Yup. I'm amazed you can't. I mean, what in the history of the Modern Democrat Party has hinted that they have any inclination whatsoever to sane, critical thinking?

I have found most liberals to be very poor students of history, ordinary civics, ordinary law, current events and common sense. Once that is established at a young age, it can take almost lifetime to correct. Often, it never happens. Quite sad, don't you think?

I don't know how often you'all come in contact with our schools, but people, we're losing the battle! Depressed, cynical 'nutroots' (our nation's children) are being produced faster than all the conservative blogs like this one can counter them. We are the choir preaching to the choir here!

Somehow, "those people" need to be made to understand just WHAT our views are and WHY. So, intermixed with the humor, there needs to be finely placed explanations of conservative principles! I believe that used to be called: "philosophy of government."

Because, whereas we may SOUND cynical here, we actually are not. Don't you think?

"Never confuse the issue with facts" - premiere plank for the Demoncratic party

I'm afraid it's not pretend; the Democratic Party really IS listening to these people.

Can you believe the Democratic Party is actually pretending to listen to these people?

Uuuummmmm....yeah. We're a bunch of hicks from the midwest who drink all day and shine our kkk cards. Oh, and we don't read books. Clearly, the biggest weakness of the liberals is their distorted picture of the right. That's why they keep pulling stuff like the Jeri Thompson is a trophy wife, they think we honestly believe that "Women should be barefoot in the kitchen" stuff we joke about. I object to anyone trying to pull off their ideological blinders, it'll end them up with a candidate that can't win like Hillary. Many years as a social worker taught me: let an arrogant buffoon bury themselves, it'll save you the effort and usually a shovel or two.

"I Wish Occam Had a Bat So I Could Smack Them in the Face with It"

Kind'a like clubbin' baby seals ain't it.

Man, every - single - day, I find a new use for Mike S. Adams's article about redefining racism. Since I'm far too lazy to actually look it up, I'll just paraphrase.

Racism (n): bringing up race when it is not pertinent to the issue at hand.

Works in the classical sense (racist segregationists, slavery supporters, lynch mobs, etc.), and in the sense of e.g. Al Sharpton, who is of course a huge, huge racist. And now every time I turn around, there's some lib being a racist -- race is not pertinent to Giuliani's campaign in any way, shape, or form, but there they are trotting it out. Because they're racist bastards, per Mike Adams's definition.

I find that libs everywhere are incredibly racist, and it seems as if they don't know. Do they know they are racist? Or did they just mix up the definition of the word?

If only I could show my black and hispanic friends how racist these guys are. Got any ideas?

On the same token, I hope Obama goes after all the white people if he's elected. Especially the Irish. His wife once stated that he "could get shot just going to the gas station", and I bet it'd be by some drunken Irish guy 'cause everyone knows that they're all a bunch o' drunken gun nuts.

Slainte!

But seriously, isn't it interesting how they accuse ALL Republicans of discrimination and/or cultural bias, and then proceed to show a hatred for them not seen since the '60's discrimination against minorities? It's like saying "I hate republicans sooo much. Because they're all so hateful!"

God help you if your a Republican student on a college campus & your professors or peers find out. Better yet, how many of you have bumper stickers supporting Bush or the troops and subsequently have been subjected to vandalism, lewd gestures & cursing, or physical confrontation?

I bet it's happened to more than one of you; It's happened to me and some of my friends here in li'l old Albuquerque, and on multiple occasions.

But remember, it's US who are the discriminating ones.

Pulling the race card is always the clearest sign of desperation. They have no platform, they have no goals. As for having people tell me what I think, it's to be expected. If the facts support it, generalization is a perfectly valid logical tool. The problem with liberals, however, is they are incapable of recognizing the connection between facts and truth, and are completely unfamiliar with the concept of logic. If Republicans actually had a track record of racist policy, then I could understand the generalization. But we don't. Libs see anything other than their warped sense of false compassion as racist. Unless you coddle the poor pathetic minorities, and cater to their every whim, you're racist, because how can we ever expect them to compete on their own when they're so clearly inferior? Gimme a freakin' break!!!

All that being said, one of the main reasons I support Giuliani is the way he treated NYC's race hustlers like Sharpton & Co. (i.e. total contempt). He wasn't afraid to call a spade a spade, or a dangerous rabble-rousing racial arsonist a spade (ah, if only). And you know what? Even the phony liberals who pretend to be overjoyed when their daughters bring home a homey knew he was right.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the attacks from Sharpton when Rudy snags the nomination. You wait and see - you're gonna have your Sistah Souljah moment, all right - in spades (hahaha). And you know what? You're gonna learn to like this Rudy guy...

Look at the way Republicans hated black people just prior to the Civil War... ;)

Bunkerboy, are you trying to imply that Rudy is the "law and order" candidate? Perhaps you can elucidate by providing some actual quotations from Rudy and then we can balance them against his lawfirm's lobbying efforts on behalf of Saudi Arabia.

Jimmy, if you don't know that Rudy's a law and order (i.e. real life, not the TV show) candidate, you're just not paying attention.

From his pre-mayor days smashing The Mob as US Attorney to cutting the murder rate by something like 70%, Rudy's reputation as a can-do guy (on seemingly intractable problems) was established long before 9/11.

In fact, the reason NYC was able to weather that shitstorm like no other big city in the nation was because of the respect for law and order, and the standards of decency that Rudy had established in his 7+ years of governing a formerly "ungovernable" city.

Like The Ol' Perfessor Casey Stengel used to say, "You can look it up."

P.S. We're gonna be in bed with the Saudis for a long time to come...

Spot-on with the name-recognition hypothesis. Most voters don't have sufficient time (and don't want to make the effort) to formulate a truly educated opinion of the various candidates, and are likely to base their preference on a level of information that's merely sufficient to convince themselves that they're not guessing blindly.

(It's a cognitive consistency thing. You can't understand, but you'll think that you do.)

8^)

Well, I have been paying attention - increasingly - since that's what elections are all about. So, Rudy has a plus in that he convinced his city cops to crack down on slugs in NYC. Is that enough? What about his stand on the 2nd Amendment - his latest pronouncements, nothwithstanding? Kind of flunks the course, I think. Abortion? Flunks. Strutting around with megaphones during an attack? A+ Being a slimmy lawyer in a lobbyist-type lawfirm? A+ (and THAT IS the basis of his foreign policy experience!) Talking out of both sides of his mouth at once? Pretty good, don't you think?

Granted, I think many of us would rather have him than Hillary Clitton (and many here have said "bearly"). But things are just getting started in the campaign, aren't they? I sincerely hope you pay attention to Senator Thompson's ideas since he actually has 8 years experience as a legistator involved with ALL aspects of actually running our country. All things considered - and all name calling aside - I'd wait, if I were you, before joining Rudy's mayoral campaign on a national scale. Hold off, bunkerboy, the conversation's just gettin' started!

A New York City mayor probably deals with more foreign policy issues in a month than a senator does in a six-year term.

He commands a police force larger than the armies of most countries.

His municipal work force is larger than the population of most major cities.

The city's budget is larger than most nation's GDPs.

You're gonna sit there and tell me Fred Thompson's record of accomplishments is greater than Giuliani's? Please - I could list them while taking a leak...

Then write the guy a letter, bunkerboy, and convince him that besides your adulation, PRINCIPLES actually matter to what Rudy would like to considere his political base. 'Cause I got news for you. The Conservative wing of the Republican party would rather you take that "leak" and see if you can write things down on paper at the same time. Good luck trying to kiss Thompson's ass in the same manner.

You're also forgetting that great moment when Rudy told that Arab prince (who claimed US policy brought the attacks on) where to shove that $10M check...

Tell ya what - you can hold my dick on Feb. 5th when I take that leak...

If you say so. Which Saudi Arabian BUNKER can I find you in, bunkerboy?

Hillary probably leads because the Kos-suckers think that she'll actually set up the concentration camps that Bush set up in their fevered imaginations. "All global-warming deniers report for re-education, please."

i hope they have a slow agonizing death

Just a question? Really! Why is it that all disagreements between men culminate in some kind of reference to their private parts. Maybe we women don't understand that because we can't participate in a "pissing" contest, but really it just makes whatever point you were trying to make null and void.

Who wants to agree with people who end their argument with Na Na Na, Na Na Na.

(not a judgement really, I was just wondering)

LOL. Well, seanmahair, I was only interested in the "location" of his bunker, not his privates. He brought THEM up. I still think Rudy = RINO. He's not altogether a bad RINO, but Conservaties would like another shot at getting a true Conservative elected president. We've only had one in the last 75 years!

Beware mixed economies, mixed ideologies, and mixed drinks!

Ya'll don't pick on bunkerboy, for real, he's honestly got some good points. I remember when Rudy told the saudi dirk to stick the money where the sun don't shine, and that nappy haired congresslady from Georgia tried to get it. Rudy's my second choice to Fred! Thompson.

As a compromise, I vote we make Fred Thompson choose Rudy as his VP or vise versa...THEY COULDN'T LOSE!!!

...and THAT would scare the nutroots to death.

It really was just a innocent question. This isn't the first time it's happened, so I was just wondering.

I too would like a REAL conservative in the White House. I'm not sure who is the best but almost anyone in the Republican field is better than any and all of the loons on the left.

Well, shimauma, I guess we're just sittin' here (drinking something, perhaps) and wondering why we're not doing something else on a beautiful Friday evening besides worrying about politics!

Yeah, you're right. We're going to need bunker's enthusiasm later inspite of his concentration on male "body parts" as seanmahair put it. The thing is, I don't think Thompson can stand the thought of "Thompson/Guilianni." On the other hand, the "ends justifies the means" idealogy of Rudy wouldn't have any problem the other way around - if he thought he could win with it.

Some of us have said things like "Bush is a good Democrat." I don't want to have say anything like that again about a Republican. I'm just afraid - like so many others - that Rudy is.

I agree, seanmahair. But you know what? It's going to come down to a knockdown, dragout fight before the Republican convention this time. People like bunker are ready to sing the praises of someone who isn't true to (what we'd like to believe are) our principles!

//I guess we're just sittin' here (drinking something, perhaps) and wondering why we're not doing something else on a beautiful Friday evening besides worrying about politics!//

Dude, I'm a mom with two kids, and a hubby that works 60-70 hours a week to my 40, I got no life, but the money I make in my 40 hours, I wanna keep, so I stay home and read conservative blogs to try to learn what the issues are, and then try to see what I can do to help push the issues I believe in. One of the things I think would help is if conservatives STICK TOGETHER. You and bunkerboy both want to keep your guns, and your money and your property and the ability to say whatever you want regardless of how unPC it is, that means you believe in the same things.

Intelligent debate is cool, but nasty sniping should be saved for the libtards.

...and homo-fixiated posters like ussjimmycarter, who can get even with me if he shows up at my Fred! Thompson event!!! ;P

And Captain Kirk shouted, "Back off. BACK OFF!"

Ideological fangs temporarily retracted, shimauma. But should ussjimmycarter show up tonight, look out! He'll make me look like a whimp with incredible, spot-on nastiness.

Let's get a few things straight here. Whatever praises I sing for Giuliani are due to the fact that I've experienced the difference his leadership has made FIRST-HAND, having lived in NYC my entire life. The notion that Rudy would've been nothing had 9/11 not occurred is patently absurd to anyone living here, disingenuous and delusional liberals not withstanding.

Now...unless this entire site lives in Tennessee and has had a similar experience, I just don't get it. What the hell has he accomplished? Helping get McCain-Feingold passed? Steady pro-life votes? Starring in a show that jumped the shark ten years ago? Standing 6'7"? What?

Tell ya what - I'll wipe out Roe v. Wade and and hand out automatic weapons to all non-felons. I'll give the armed forces cash bonuses for every terrorist killed, and I'll make punching hippies legal. I'll build forty foot high fences on the borders of Mexico AND Canada, and I'll never, EVER stray from the party line. So vote for me - I don't really have a record of accomplishments, but neither does Fred Thompson. And I'll live longer...

bunkerboy, IMAO management should probably have a live traffic meter up here to see whether our ideas and disagreements have generated any increased readership.

I can honestly say that I like the tone of your last paragraph there. And on your last sentence, I wish BOTH candidates were 10 years younger. Take that! :-) PS: Your old man is leading in the polls. My old man is getting ready to announce. Get ready for the racetrack "...and their off." It should be good.

I lived in Tennessee from spring 2000 to fall 2002. 2 of the three years I lived there the RINO governor tried to make them pass an income tax into the Tennessee state constitution and I'll tell you it was Fred Thompson's influence that made the STATE congress vote that measure down. Fred was very proactive in Tennessee during 9/11, not so much as there were any problems in Tennessee but that we were glad to know Fred was supporting the president in all the decisions afterwards. We needed that rock steady support.

Steady pro-life votes shouldn't be poopoo'd either; you realize how hard it is in DC to keep that stance with all the "world" modernizing around you screaming "rights for women"? If he's a concrete wall for the right reasons, I'm satisfied with his work.

Have you checked out his website, bunkerboy, seen what he supports, what he's going to try to accomplish. And he's clean, NO skeletons, with ALL his exposure to politics and Hollywood, they got nothing on him.

With edwards maybe Gay, hillary a bitch queen dyke, obama ex-muslim schoolboy, Romney kind of a wishy washy mormon, Rudy and his liberal issues, Fred is about the rock steadiest looking guy out there.

C'mon, bunkerboy, we're all conservatives here, let's save our meanness for punching monkey faced liberals.

Judging from that last paragraph, I think bunkerboy is about as conservative as I am and probably way too conservative for Rudy, and perhaps even for Fred. You're right, shi! At least we're on the same side. It just comes down to the candidate, now.

If your horse doesn't get out of the starting gate in time for the Sept. 5th debate, you really gotta wonder what the hell's going on...