I guess no one told you, Frank. I'll have to break it to you. We all did die from the ozone hole. We are currently in Hell. How else do you explain Hillary and an amnesty plan that won't die?

John Edwards single handedly saved the ozone. CFC in pressurized spray cans were the cause of ozone depletion in the 90's. When he switched from pressurized to pump style cans, the amount of CFC's released dropped by over 73%.

To be fair, though, most environmentalists conflate Global Warming with Ozone Layer Depletion, so many didn't notice when people stopped talking about it.

It could have also been all those days in Europe with High Ozone Level Warnings that made people skeptical of our shortage of O3.

On a brief moment of seriousness, the banning of certain aerosols saw a decrease in the hole's size, and it continues to heal.

Having said that, I'll point out that this proves John Edwards is crucial to global stability. If for some reason John Edwards were to stop caring for his hair, it is expected that the ozone layer would grow too large and kill us all within the hour.

Well, speak of the (ozone) devil - just saw an article over at the BBC urging "faster phase-out" of ozone depleting chemicals. Huh? Thought we did that already. Thought that was why those 80's hairstyles died out; their supporting hairspray was outlawed.

When asked by a reporter what Americans could do to fight ozone depletion, Ronald Reagan replied, "wear long sleeve shirts".

Unfortunately, all of the environmental fads are all going strong these days in today's educational system.

The "population bomb" (I see a Frank the Artist sketch in the making here, sounds like a fun way of killing terrorists), "acid rain", the "Ozone Hole", all of it. Most if not all have been widely discredited and abandoned by serious scientists (I'll go a step further and say a "consensus" of scientists), but in today's liberal utopia of the captive classroom audience, every single one is still being taught as "trouble ahead".

Every. Single. One.

Last I heard, the ozone layer got so thick it fell out of the sky and killed 42 kajillion people. But that was an estimate from Greenpeace, so it may be a little high. And the stuff about the ozone layer falling out of the sky might not be true, either.

Hell, I'm old enough to remember when scientists were saying that all the smoke from the jets flying around in the upper atmosphere was going to block out the sun and create another ice age.

*Bzzt!* Oh, I'm sorry, no that didn't quite pan out. But we're very certain about the relationship between climate change and economic activity this time.

Yeah... suuuuuuuure you are.

I think what we need to do is come up with the idea for the next environmental disaster.
ice age, ozone, global warming were all great but we need the next one.
It has to be believable, it has to make sense if you leave enough facts out.

I just realized, though, I haven't heard anything about the ozone layer in years. Did we solve that problem or something?

Sorta. You should try Google when you have questions about science. There are lot of helpful people and organizations on the internet trying to share science in an understandable manner. Here's one by NASA about the ozone:

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/ozone_resource_page.html

[What's that flying high over your head, anonymous? Oh! It's the point! -Ed.]

Atmospheric ozone was actually restored by Fred Thompson. After his Senate re-election victory in the 90's, he was setting up the backyard barbeque (read: spitting 2 cows and a buffalo which he would then hold over the coals with his left hand, so he could still shake hands with well-wishers as they arrived), when a few clouds appeared in the sky. His angry glare quickly dissipated the clouds, ionized a substantial portion of the upper atmosphere, and inflicted so much damage on the Centauri attack fleet at L2 that they abandoned their invasion plans and limped back home to make repairs. Enough ozone was formed in the disruption to fill in the hole.

I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty...our soldiers are morons and if we would just get out of Iraq the Ozone layer would be safe...err...yea...that's it...oh yea...I have hero medals from Vietnam but I threw them over the fence but I kept them and then I married an ATM...

Duhhh. The O-zone lies just past the endzone line. Even the mighty Fighting Irish can't penetrate that.

"I think what we need to do is come up with the idea for the next environmental disaster.
ice age, ozone, global warming were all great but we need the next one.
It has to be believable, it has to make sense if you leave enough facts out."

Dihydraoxide! It's used in nuclear power plants. It kills when breathed. Fish face a high sodium chloride content with all the sediment it facilitates. Think of the dolphins too!

The ozone layer was being depleted, because of cow flatulance. Thankfully, however, one Tuesday in the early 90's Fred Thompson was hungry; and by dinner time he had depleted the cow population by 48%

I think what we need to do is come up with the idea for the next environmental disaster.

Can we come up with something about celebrities being bad for the environment? Anything to make them shut the f_ck up.

Clearly, the only solution to the Ozone problem is to withdraw from Earth. If we stay here we will die, and for what? Oil? No, we must pull out now.

Also, as everyone knows, Mike Score of Flock of Seagulls is primarily responsible for the depletion of the Ozone layer and, despite his being from England, it's still America's fault.

Dihydraoxide, it has been done, although people still fall for it wouldn't catch on.

people that post links from NASA should be banned from the site.

I'm sure the next global doomsday scenario will be caused by the convergence of communism and shawn (intentional little s) Penn. That or a breakdown in the ring of orbiting buffets around rosie Odonnell. (never bothered to learn correct spelling)

There always has been a hole in the Ozone over Antarctica...closing it is counter to Gaia's plan.

80's hairstyles were held together by mousse [not the chocolate kind]. it was 60's [that's right, 60's] hairstyles that used so many cans of hairspray.

the reason for all this hype is to find a political expedient to cull the human population by two thirds in the name of sustainable development.

so, move along quietly to your liquidation station. it's for the children.

I just got finished a test yesterday on the ozone layer, acid rain, and global warming.

When I asked if they still exist, the teacher said "I dunno, maybe."

I'd like to say there's a deep meaning here, but I think we haven't heard about it simply because its no longer trendy.

There is one important question I've never even heard asked, much less answered. The ozone hole was over the south pole. It was supposedly the result of, essentially, industrial societies. And yet, if you look at the globe, all of the most industrialized societies (i.e. the US, Europe, China) are in the northern hemisphere.

So shouldn't the ozone hole be found over the north pole, not the south?

Apparently something else is at work depleting the ozone. Now, the funny part is that one of the other candidate molecules is methane. Methane is emitted by river basins (among other things, admittedly), and if you look at the distribution of river basins, the really big ones (i.e. the Amazon, the Congo) are in the southern hemisphere.

I think it would use up all of the world's available irony if it were to turn out that the rain forests were destroying the ozone layer. :-)

Q_Mech:

The reason the hole formed over the south pole is because if you look at a globe, Antarctica is on the bottom. Ozone destroying chemicals are heavier than air, so they sink to the south pole and deplete the ozone layer.

By the way, one of these days I'm going to visit the island of Rand-McNally.

The ozone hole and acid rain brought on the global warming/cooling/climate change. It is the consnsus of everyone who is smart so shut up,rethuglicanazi.

post #27 -- f@%&ing classic!


vetter, you must be an example "of everyone who is smart"....haha!

If you can find it, the UN used to keep track of all the ozone monitoring stations around the world as part of PEMID (Not quite sure if that is the correct acronnym).

They stopped collecting the data in 1996 because there was no statistical difference in worldwide ozone levels from when they started collecting data to 1996.

While the data did not show the ozone holes over the antartic, they did give a broad view of the size of the ozone layer around the earth. The greens never established that the antartic hole was anything other then a natural phenominon, and their predicted holes over Denver and Detroit never appeared.

The whole thing was like global warming in miniture, with our environmentalists claiming that impending doom (TM) is at hand if we continue using refrigerant.

Not familiar with the Montreal Protocol, eh?

The comments here are beyond stupid.

Raising the level of tailpipes on diesel trucks helped replenish our ozone, but if you think that the ozone layer healed. . . try spending time outside without sunblock.

Apparently the ozone layer just wasn't scary enough to get the right people elected; we have better bugaboos.

Boris -- thank you for cursing the darkness, now enlighten us on the Montreal Protocol. In a way, you make the point too -- there's too little coverage of corrective action to fix the ozone layer for the average person to know or care, despite its importance.

The Montreal Protocol was an international agreement, signed in 1987, that phased out CFCs. CFC emissions are near zero, so the threat to the Ozone layer is pretty much over, even though the hole is not expected to recover until 2040 or so.

So, in other words, since the environazis successfully got us to bend to their will, they claim that the problem has been magically solved and moved on to the next boogeyman.

No wonder they're suspicious of the war on terror, it's eerily close to their own strategy.

Post #26--I can't believe you just said that, Bob. Are you familiar with the theory of gravity? Stuff doesn't fall to the bottom of the globe. It falls towards the center.

I'm 90% sure you were joking, but I can't believe nobody called you on it.

So you think there's a 10% chance there really is an island called Rand-McNally?

It must be named for the company that made my globe.