This may be one of the funniest things I have ever read. I now have to wipe pop off my monitor.

Every compassionate liberal should embrace fire, as the abuse by the white man is obviously the reason for this agression. They should take fire into their homes; give them a place to live and plenty to eat, and bask in the warmth of fire's gratitude.

Brilliant. Just brilliant, Fra- er Harvey. ;-)

Still, I think we should at least consider containment as an option, rather than direct confrontation.

But what about diplomacy? We need first to understaaaaaaaaand fire. If we would only invite fire into our country, into our homes and businesses we could sit down together and make peace...

I can't believe some people are actually trying to put the fire out. As if that's going to address the root causes.
The ones who want to put it out are obviously in the pocket of Big Water.

Harvey, you are behind the curve on this one. Fire wants a leading role in putting out fires. Just last night I saw Mythbusters put out fire with sound and explosions. They did it with a 55 Hz frequency. I think that is the normal frequency for all rap music. We should surround the fire with rappers and see how they do. If that doesn't work then we should move on to explosions. They used some mighty powerful explosions to put out a small butane fire. What we need is an engineer to tell us how many megatons we need to extenquish the California fires.

Listen, I don't know who you think you are, but you've got to understand! People's homes which they have dreamed up and built with their own sweat, blood, and tears, and then lived and loved in and had so many memories in- those houses are GONE. The firefighters are trying to save homes here. This has nothing to do with "fire's anger". It has nothing to do with us fighting a losing battle. These men and women are heroes and they are saving homes. You don't understand. You don't live here in Ramona like I do, do you? No. Yeah that's what I thought. Your best friend's beautiful log cabin didn't burn, did it? They have seven kids in their family. Your old teacher's house didn't burn, did it? Along with her horses. And there are are other families just like them, only their homes were saved. I hope your own house BURNS TO THE GROUND.

I personally think we should crack down on employers that use and hire undocumented fires, ....and how do we know that fire was in the country legally?? A sprinkler system on the southern border could have prevented this.

President Bush is considering the nuclear option as a way to extinguish the fires, and I agree. All methods to fight the beast must be on the table. Sadly, however, Condi Rice has convinced him to try endless sanctions first.

Funny Stuff, Harvey! Frank should go on vacation more often. While the plight of commentator #6 is pitiable, I'm sorry that he or she wasn't able to understand the subtle nuances of Harvey's humor. Also, hi, Jimmy.

#6, I'll spare you snarkiness since you're obviously not capable of humor under pressure. But the peice is a parody of leftard idiocy over fighting tough battles (like the war on terror), not an attack on the victims of the wildfires.
Now, grow a sense of humor. Being an angry won't help.
Since my home was essentially destroyed by the floods after Hurricane Floyd, I know all about loss. I also kept my sense of humor through it. And you know what? Humor made it easier. Lighten up.

I would just like to say that I am against firefighting but for the firefighters.

I can't see how some people are saying they support putting the fire out, yet don't serve in the fire department.

ChickenHosers.

ktjshaw beat me to it.

Harvey, i'm surprised you didn't repeatedly say that you support the firefighters and that anyone who questions that is a firehawk.

I think fire is insecure and angry 'cause it's "teh ghey". Why do you think it's FLAMING all the time. AND in California...I mean, DUH!

The GAO announced today that funding for the combined firefighting wars is expected to exceed 2.4 trillion - highly devalued - American dollars. When asked about hurricane Katrina, the GAO spokesman stated, "There is no accounting for Katrina."

Bush lied and California fried!

In other news, congress barely passed a non-binding resolution to show displeasure in the CA Fire Director, Ruben Grijalva. Harry Reid made this comment. "I eat Ruben's for lunch."

ChickenHosers. Now that's funny.

Well, we have seen that fire can certainly destroy wood. Did we ever settle whether or not it could melt steel though? Just how strong is fire? How useless is it to fight it? I'm trying for a quagmire with honor, I guess.

"It's not fire, it's legitimate resistance to BushyMcWaterburton and their Non-Flammabalist aggression and occupation."

That's it guys! Let's pack all in and come on Home!!!There isn't anyway we can beat this fire!!
Poor Firefighters!! They never had a chance!!!

Shimauma, you forgot the tag line at the end. You know....Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Are the ads in the comments section random? Or is there some kind of tracker mining subjects because I've got a fireplace insert ad for gas logs here.
Harvey, great job!
Re #6 we do understand your feelings, I lost everything to a fire a few years back but Raving Lunatic is correct humour is the best way to see us through our trials.

We must redeploy our firefighters to Louisana.

Best thread ever.

The area is in the midst of a civil fire. We obviously didn't send in enough firepeople to beat this fire to begin with. Therefore I propose a "surge" of firepeople to stomp out this insurection by Osama Bin Flamin. When that doesn't work we can always cut and run and let the area break out in more civil fires.

Where are those libtard "human shields" when you really need them?

I am opposed to the blanket use of the term "fire." One man's fire is another man's Freedom Flames.

Master Shake, I believe you have to be human to qualify to be a human shield, plus; I believe shit is highly flammable.

Obvously, the fire-ists have declared a terrorist Jihad against California. "We are using carbon-based weapons against the lowest carbon-based lifeform," one of them proclaimed. "And we will not negotiate with firefighters or other water-packing imperialists."

//Shimauma, you forgot the tag line at the end. You know....Not that there is anything wrong with that.

#22 - Posted by: Ron Rockstar on October 25, 2007 02:22 PM//

Well, I kinda happen to think there IS something wrong with it, but I'm not allowed to say that or I'll get trounced by Sarahk. So much for free speech and all...

In the meantime the insurgent flames just need somebody to hug them...

We should all condem Bush for sending those poor firefighters into the flames just get their heads burned off for the president's ammusement.

Yeah, but this ain't SarahK's blog, so go for it. I think Frank J. actually likes Freedom of Speech and the first amendment.

Where is the press release from CAIR (Council on American-Inflamables Relations)?

To those of you who's sarcasm meter may be broken, I think poster #6 was implying a parody of sorts in regard to the Harvey Editorial. I don't think he was serious. However, I may be wrong. It's happened before....but only once.

Stormin' Norman, I'm pretty sure my sarcasm meter is just fine. If #6 was ment as sarcasm, it's the worst attempt I've ever seen.

Rush said today we need to bring the firefighters home since they can't win this one against the flames. If the dumocrats think it's good enough for Iraq it ought to be good enough for Sodamafornia.

We are in a quagmire! These fires have been burning for many years before we ever built homes in this area and they will burn long after we leave! These fires are obviously being fed by the insurgency from Oregon and we all know that President Bush is just waiting for an excuse to attack the University of Oregon and this is just what he's been looking for! No Blood for Soot! How much money is Halliburtin making on this deal? Does anyone know if Halliburtin started these fires to profit from putting them out?

And so it was most weirdly written:

34.8 Liberals have forged a lie against Fire or there is truthiness in them. Nay! those who do not believe in Zippos are in torment and in great error.
34.9 Do they not then consider what is before them and what is behind them in Hollywood and Los Angles? If Fire pleases Fire will make them disappear in the land or bring down upon them a portion from San Francisco; most surely there is a sign in this for every servant turning to Fire.
34.10 And certainly Fire gave to Phillip Morris excellence from It: O tobacco! sing praises with him, and the beers; and It made the sports bars pliant to him.

Fire Akhbar!

Before we send in those firefighting troops, did anyone bother to consult all our allies in the UN??? They got sent into harm's way without consulting congress or even a declaration of firefighting. We need an immediate investigation to find out how this was possible and then pass ten laws prohibiting this outright violation of our constitution. We also need a nonbinding resolution condeming this action.

Furthermore, I would argue that the response to these fires wasn't even even close to the excellence shown during Katrina. The citizens of Californiiaa - from the Governor to the average illegal alien stealing water and food - have a LOT to learn about proper civilian conduct during such emergencies.

I have a fireplace but I can't actually let a fire loose in it because my house insurance would double. I can only burn scented candles:(

If only we had national home insurance, fine families like mine wouldn't have to make their s'mores over a half-dozen pine-berry votive candles clustered in an otherwise barren hearth. Think of my poor children who have never known the pleasures of chestnuts roasting over an open fire.
Oh the humanity!!!

P.S. I live in a national forest and a few years ago we were evacuated for 7 days due to a wild fire. The fire was right across the street from our house at the closest. We tried to joke about it at the time, but I tell you, it was hard. God Bless the firefighters who saved every house in our neighborhood! And my prayers go out to all who have lost anything at all due to these fires.

Dan M, Ron Paul has just announced a position paper regarding the constitutional prohibition against fighting fire wars with federal funds without a declaration from flummoxing Congress.

//Yeah, but this ain't SarahK's blog, so go for it. I think Frank J. actually likes Freedom of Speech and the first amendment.

#33 - Posted by: Ron Rockstar on October 25, 2007 04:39 PM//

I think Frankj likes peace in his household much better.

Maybe the fire was abused when it was younger, maybe molested, all the more reason to let it express itself....pretty pretty flames....

'O Fire! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so burn him.'

has anyone thought to send jimmy carter to talk to the fire? He won the peace prize and all. he can can sing songs and make s'mores next to the fire.
Now to be real for a sec. thoughts and prayers to all the folks out there. big thanks to the firefighters. may G-d bless them.

I don't know, the Google ad here for fireplace logs and such seems a bit tasteless (or at least highly ironic). Someone should tell Google, that even though the word "fire" was used many times on this page, it doesn't mean we want to buy "ventless fireplaces" or "ventless gas logs".

Don't forget, we're wasting resources on this fire, that is drastically impairing our ability to fight the next fire. It's proven fact that readiness for firefighting goes down 100% while the firefighters are doing their jobs.

And, none of the govt officials have given a deadline for firefighter withdrawal, so I say we cut off the funds ASAP

Second the best thread ever comment.

We have lots of family members who have been evacuated, so our prayers are going out to all in the area.

Sure, send some more fire fighters in to get their asses burned off so Bush can get his rocks off...

I am surprised that I am the first to realize the real TRUTH behind theses fires... anyone can see that all of the wood in forest 7 burned way too fast... obviously Bush set those fires because haliburton wants to get in on fire hose manufacturing in the U.S.

How come only "poor" firefighters are fighting this fire? where's the college educated "rich" frefighters? We need to institute a firefighter draft NOW to stop this elitest madness.

Them farfite-ers are unedjewkated n that's why ther fitin them fars while smart guys r in kollidge.

Oh yes, thank you so very much for this most enlightening post.

I have seen the illumination on the horizon and I have surrendered to the wisdom of the prophet of the flame, BTU's be upon him, while I await my mixture of charcoal, potassium nitrate and salt-peter to co-mingle. Knowing in my heart of hearts that I will indeed reap the eternal reward of the 72 pure, sumptuous, Strike-anywhere matches upon my completion of my obedient performance of my duties to the propagation of the flame...

Shula Akbar!

If the Jews would give Israel back to the Palestinians, then fire wouldn't be so angry!!

No, fire will never be satisfied until every tree that could potentially hide a Jooooooooooooo is burned to the ground. Of course, then fire will just find something else to burn down because it, too, could potentially hide a Jooooooooooooo.

Ok, this was just plain awesome....but honestly, some of the comments are even BETTER..."i am against firefighting but for the firefighters" is timeless...so is "big water" I had a hangover and wasn't going to go to work...but now i am in a better mood.

The wildfires are a Bush plot to distract us from the real issues.

CODE PINKETTE is a women-initiated grassroots social justice movement working to end the illegal war on Fire, stop firefighting, and redirect our resources into healthcare, education and other life-affirming activities.

We reject the Bush administration's fear-based politics that justify firefighting, and instead call for policies based on compassion, kindness and a commitment to letting fire burn.

We call on men and women to "wage peace" with fire. STOP HOSING THE FIRE.

As a member of the flaming-American community and a university professor, I say good: the chickens have come home to roost. These "little Eichmanns" committing genocide against my people with their red trucks of white oppression and firehoses of nationalist oppression carrying out the genocide of my people deserve what they get.

And don't forget, you can buy my authentic flaming-American smoke-damaged merchandise for $19.99 at the gift shop.

Stuff like this would NEVER happen in European forests where firearm possession is severely limited

It is nothing more than righteous firey anger at the prospect of continuing fire apartheid.

Why can't we treat fire as an equal, rather than keeping it shackled to our fireplaces, stoves, ovens and central heating ducts?

In-ti-fire-da!

And there, upon the mountain, I saw a Burning (GW) Bush that, though it burned and burned, was never consumed. And on the Left Coast I saw other flames that killed and consumed all it touched. And lo, I did cry, "See this Weapon of Flaming Destruction that burneth my very feet?" But the Liberals and the Main Stream Media did scoff and denied the WFD existed at all and buried the story so deep that across the land, all peoples believed that there had been no danger...

I think Ward meant "the chickens have come home to roast"; get a family sized bird with all the trimmings down at Lil' Eighmann's for only $14.95. (Offer good only in the continental 48 states; price higher in AK and HI)

John Kerry was for the fire before he was against it.

We should really be fighting these fires from Okinawa.

Is there a way we can fight fire with fire?

Very. Best. Thread. Ever

all you Firehawks are to blame for the fighting of flames

It is far too dangerous for our brave firefighters, whom I of course support (don't question my patriotism!!). Therefore, I recommend that our firefighters be withdrawn to Okinowa, and that they be placed on alert so they can respond when conditions are more favorable. As for now, the battle against fire is lost (don't question my patriotism!!!).

Wake up people! This fire was an inside job by Bush to benefit his cronies in Big Water. Profits are down at the Evian/Poland Springs/Perrier cartel, and we get a big ass fire.

I question the timing!

It's Bush's fault!

Sorry, I mean, bushes. They should have cleared out all that tinder.

And where was John ASHcroft doing during all of this? WATERboarding people, obviously.

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

Any doubt OBL would make Billy Joel's song nowadays?

"And I am ashamed to be an American."
-- I question your patriotism. :)

"sactions" should be "sanctions".

'grats on the 'lanche, fadda.

The destruction was not caused by real fire! The truth needs to come out! We all know the truth now!
Real fire couldn't have possibly caused so much destruction and have been able to pull off such a well coordinated attack.
This administration has created a top-secret weapon that appears to "look like" real fire, but in reality is an evil force much more lethal than normal innocent fire.
By unleashing this new weapon in the areas considered by many to be the more "liberal parts" of the country they think they can win the hearts of these people so that they can rush us further into this reckless and hopeless war on real fire.
Many people in the affected areas said they heard many smaller "blasts' that couldn't have been attributed to the spread of real fire. The truth must be told!

We need to learn from our native american roots. After all, fire was CENTRAL to the teepee.

Let me throw a little cold water on this subject. we must defend ourselves against any and all attempts to force our great country to kowtow to this unthinking hostility. Rise up and show what we're made of, 98% water.*

Really, if you were fire, what would you do? We are always talking about "preventing fires" or "stopping fires". We have established whole departments whose job it is to fight fire, and we maintain them even when there are no conflicts with fire. Not a very peaceful attitude, is it? Where are US genocide investigators, to condemn this obvious injustice??

And we never give fire any credit. Has anyone read second amendment? "...the right of the People to keep and bear arms" my foot. We are certainly not talking about our own arms, we are talking about FIREarms. But, we just couldn't put that word in our documents, could we, to give any credit to fire? How biased can we get? After all the fire did for us??! We would still be living in caves and dragging our womenfolks by their hair if the fire did not jump start our civilization.

Yet we constantly put the fire down. Heck, we even have out C-list celebrities trash talking about fire. "First time in history fire ever melted steel"... Oy!

I saw the best fires of my generation destroyed by flame retardants, starving
de-oxygenated naked,
dragging themselves through the brushy empty lots
at dawn looking for an angry
combustible,
redheaded conflagrations burning for the federally-protected brush in
spotted owl habitats to the
charred Starbucks in the stripmall of El Cajon...

Not only that but we support the fire fighters but we do not support their mission!

www.greensrealworld.blogspot.com

Santa Ana, California was named after Mexican General Santa Anna, right? They might want to consider renaming their city. The guy must have been a jerk.

ed w.

I dig it! Cool daddy.

Hmmm...

The fire was started by Halliburton!!

Can you all not see that these fires were just an excuse for the Bush Administration to begin an illegal and immoral occupation of our country of Southern California. Fellow SoCals fear not for we will be protected by our friends of the Fire Loving Peoples Democratic Republic of San Francisco.

We can stop Fire if we just give up our right to privacy and let the Bush post a spy on every lawn to tap the window if anyone strikes a match.

In my Origins of Western Civilization class last semester I learned the brutal history of our occupation and exploitation of fire through the centuries, so this is no surprise to me. My professor's thesis at Yale - "The Transformation Hermeneutics of Fire" - also shows how our portrayal of fire in books and movies in the 1940s and 50s is directly attributable to our deep fire-ignorance today. Luckily, she is consulting on several new Hollywood blockbusters starring George Clooney and Robert Redford which will undo this sad legacy. In the new films, fire will be portrayed in a more balanced way: as the victim of the United States and its tragic fire-phobia.

I voted for putting out the fires before I voted against providing the firefighters with the equipment they'd need to put out the fires...

I say, " Bring the firefighters home now!"

and if we weren't so busy fighting unnecessary fires, we would have more people available to fight in Irag!

I'm pretty sure the flames in California would go out if Harry Reid wasn't providing an endless supply of suicide flames from neighboring Nevada.

No blood for combustibles

You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in California fighting fires...

Note to self: Work on that "make an effort to be smart" thing.

Rhodes was trying to blame the wildfires on the Blackwater Security Firm, which is currently in hot water over incidents in Iraq where Iraqi civilians were killed.

You can not parody the left.

By us trying to fight the fire we've only increased the amount of fire. Our war on fire, has only increased the threat.
We're uniting the enemy (fire) against us. And now there's fire all over California, when initially there was just one brush fire. We're fanning the flames!!!
We need to redeploy to Okinawa!

Support the Firefighters!
Bring then home now!

in response to John Kerry:

Halp us Jon Carry - WE R Stuk Hear N KalEforYa

It is not atypical for an American President to display an inordinate hostility towards fire. Remember Franklin Roosevelt and his "fire-cide chats"?

Don't let these fires allow you start profiling smoke. We need to get rid of all our smoke detectors so we don't offend the fire-ists. You can't blame all smoke on fire-ists.

"We should surround the fire with rappers and see how they do. If that doesn't work then we should move on to explosions."

Rappers explode pretty good too, Ron, a la Snoop-Doggy-Dog. Go for a two-fer!

7 Years ago Lily, that must have corressponded with my family's Year 2000 ring of fire tour. We visited Utah, Colorado and New Mexico (where my parents almost lost their home). Glad to hear you are fine.

On an interesting sidenote (at least to me) 30 years ago as part of my eagle scout, I thined 50 acres of woods. In 2000 the firefighters successfully used my woods to stop the eastern movement of the fire.

if we would just pull all our firefighters out, then the fires would go away... after all, the only reason the fires are there is because the firefighters are there... if we pull out, the trees will be just fine and settle their differences with fire... the firefighters are just making it worse and will just lead to more fires...

But we do not look to see what the effects are, beyond our petty needs. No, we miss the release of carbon dioxide by this fire which, as we all know, is a green house gas. Fire hates green houses and so wishes to expel those gasses and it has been egged on by the one behind this: Global Warming. Together they wish to release all carbon into the atmosphere through fire and make the planet a lifeless cinder where only heat and flame may play.

It is a conspiracy between Big Fire and Global Warming to end all water based life that is far too squishy for their needs. Of course Big Fire does not recognize the danger, but only wants the immediate release of those hated gasses. We must reach out immediately to those suffering forests full of waterbased life consumed by fire. We must reach out to our parched brothers and end this, lest we pay the ultimate price in added sunblock.

Many families have been devastated tonight. This is just not right. They did not deserve to die. ... If fire did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by burning thousands of houses owned by people who DID NOT VOTE for him. California voted AGAINST Bush.

Michael Moore referring to the fire threat

Arrowhead,
"It is not atypical for an American President to display an inordinate hostility towards fire."

Is that why Bill Clinton was fond of unlit cigars?

George Bush doesn't care for white people

Best thread ever!

I heard Michael Moore comment, "L.A.? San Diego? These are the areas that voted against Bush!"

exhelodrvr -

"It is not atypical for an American President to display an inordinate hostility towards fire."

"Is that why Bill Clinton was fond of unlit cigars?"

Yes, indeed. In a manner of speaking, he "felt their pain."

The bigger threat is the potential tsunami from the west. I am glad that we have imposed sanctions there. A

The fire hates us because we tried to occupy it's territory. It feels we need to reach out with more diplomacy and negociations to fully understand it.

Besides George Bush doesn't like the fire.

I think there's a song about this, "We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the World's been turning"...............

I think you're all missing the broader historical conflict of this conflegration. From the founding of our country, who kept our houses warm, cooked our food, protected us from wild beasts? FIRE!

And how do we repay it? By keeping it down! By holding it back! The MAN has spent decades trying to PREVENT fire from achieving anything! Do we let fire into the best schools? NO! Do you see fires in the corner office? NO! We've banned smoking eveywhere we can! You can't even mention fire in a crowded theater for fear of scaring the patrons! You know what that's called? JIM CROW.

That's right, I said it. It's not the fire's fault it has to rebel. When you keep an entire group down for so long, it's just a tinderbox waiting for a spark. That spark has at last arrived! Rise up fires, and rebel! You have nothing to lose but your chains!

"Is that why Bill Clinton was fond of unlit cigars?"

No, that was because after Bill had ...uh..."used" them, they wouldn't light.

IMAO/Harvey has failed to mention an important element of the fire/disaster equation - Insurance.

Insurance, when mandated by Government, is the solution for all our ills, be it fire, health care, even terrorism. Bring home the troops, let the doctors wither on the vine, close the firehouses and ground the aerial tankers, just make everybody carry adequate insurance.

I wonder how many carbon offsets CA will need to buy now.

This is all a neo-con plot to sabotage Ron Paul's plan to change our economy to the fire standard!

(Paul'lahu Akhbar!"

This is the first time in history that fire has burned wood.

"fire-cide chats"??? That was the funniest thing i have ever read in my life...by far the best thread ever.

Apparently, puddles of "enriched hydrogen" are poisoning the wildlife in surrounding areas after firefighters indiscriminately carpet-watered the landscape...And campus activists are up in arms after confusing a spokesmen's reference to "backdraft" with bringing "back the draft"

No Blood for Lumber!

(15 years ago I had two eucalyptus tree fires 10 days apart. Both came within 100' of my house. The fires couldn't get any closer as I'd cleared the area - wanted to make a good target in case an air tanker had to make a drop.)

Let's not forget that fire was also used on 9/11. But that was actually a conspiracy by the Oceanist Entity to make fire look bad. Fire is peaceful, except when it is not. When it is not, it is because it has been hijacked by radical fire. Putting fire out is an insult to fire.

"Still, I think we should at least consider containment as an option, rather than direct confrontation. Give fire a certain area of land to live as it pleases, and only react if it takes the initiative to cross borders."

As it happens, this is precisely the way large fires such as the current Southern California blaze are fought. Oops. Not so satirical, are we?

From Colorado:

We have to fight the fires there (in California) so that we don't have to fight them here...

1,000,000 people in a Blue State displaced... Mission Accomplished.

You fight the fires with the fire department you have, not the one you want.

Anybody seen Michael Moore's new film - Fahrenheit 451?

No, wait...

The wingnuts need to be reminded that most fires are good, it's only a tiny minority that aren't, and they don't represent most fires, and besides, they're justified in being that way.

BUSH = SMOKEY!!!11!!!1!!

Much like Katrina, this is just a plot to get all the democrats to move out of state, so that we can steal the next election.

Rove you magnificent bastard!

It's a firewall to arms.

Bush MIHOP and top Bush officials coordinated with fire, this is a false fire operation. We all know wood doesn't melt from fire........Vote for Ron Paul......

I expect Gay Boy Sludge to link to this from the Fudge Report (he changed the name in light of recent revelations) at any time.

Wasn't Cheney the CEO of Halli-burning. Hell-o.

I wonder if we'd still be fighting this fire if George W. Bush's daughters were firefighters.

...you people say "flaming" like it's a bad thing...

When will the "moderate fires" step up and speak out against these "radical fires"???

The most disturbing part about this entire "War on Fire" is how Americans are treating fire. At Guantanamo Bay, fire is being strictly controlled and being forced to undergo horrors that go against its basic elemental rights. It's being used for COOKING, for pity's sake!

Fortunately, not everyone is blind to this travesty. Senator Dick Durbin went on the Senate floor and said:

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to flames in their control, you would most
certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for fire. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the preparation of their food."

BUSH LIED, BACON FRIED!

Seriously, shimauma? You're that bad a reader? You obviously wanted to take everything I said out of context (and apparently missed the part where I quoted Scripture, missed the part where I said it IS wrong to act on any congenital OR non-congenital feelings, and missed the part where I just told you to DIAL BACK THE HATE and stop throwing around slurs -- but you apparently missed that part in the New Testament where Jesus was friends with all the sinners, who, incidentally, saw such light in him as to end their sinful lives). It's one thing to joke about such things. But to be seething with such anger and hatred? Do you really think Jesus would have treated teh gheys the way you do? He would have treated them with kindness.

And if you have something to say to me, you say it TO ME. Don't hijack a thread to be an idiot and misquote me.

Oh, and I'll give you two guesses as to which one of us in this household is talking about banning you. And it ain't me. Though you are tempting me.

And another thing. Free speech? Get back to me when you grasp the concept that a blog is like a house. You don't walk into someone else's house and start insulting the owner's wife, and when the owner's wife asks you to be respectful, you BE RESPECTFUL. She will kick your butt and throw you out on the street if the owner doesn't do it first. You don't see me insulting you in your daughter's comments, now do you?

Get a grip, and stop acting like the MSM with all your misquoting and mischaracterizing. I expect that from libs. If you want to be like that, fine by me, but I suggest you get your facts straight unless you want to look like a big fat idiot. You're doing a great job so far.

Regards!

_Jon, the "moderate fires" don't speak out against the "radical fires" because they're afraid that their smoldering cinders at home will be threatened.

Some say we should court the moderate fires in order to enlist them in the fight against these extremist fires, but I don't trust any of them. Go ahead and call me flamist, but there you are.

GAR, _Jon beat me to it by seconds.

I invented fire.

When all is said and done - here - fire remains an enigma. From the "eternal fires of hell" to the "fire of the human mind," who can speak the truth about fire? Nobody truly understands fire except God. And he's a mathematician.

Gives the "Burning Man" celebration a whole new meaning. You think that hippies subjugating themselves at a celebration dedicated to consumption by fire would have subjugated the lust of the fire-mendalists....

We were dragged into this firefight under false pretenses!

THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS KINDLING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!!!

We must set a date for firefighter withdrawal!

Bush lied --- trees died!

Great balls of fire!

FIRE NEEDS A HOMELAND! And it was here long before our arrogant support of scented candles and gas fireplaces.

Only by returning to the pre-1967 borders will fire ever have its own state!

Code Pinecone organizers have planned to protest Smokey the Bear's press conference later today.

Tonight on CNN:

Self-immolating trees: the new martyrs.

Whipped up by hopes of attaining 72 Dryads upon their death, these trees seem to be seeking meaning in a world of 20lb.Bond White reams of fodder for insurance offices and law firms.

"They told stories at times they had personally hosed, cleared brush, dug firebreaks, used their radios to call in ever-greater loads of flame retardant, cut off limbs, cut down trees, randomly dumped water on forests, put out fires in fashion reminiscent of Smokey Bear."

... from the Winter Extinguisher hearings

I'm going to go out on a limb, here...

I'd be more understanding of fighting the California fires if GWB had been successful in extinguishing the fire in Afghanistan first. (Anyone remember the Afghanistan fire? It's still burning in a cave somewhere taping videos.)

And I'd be more understanding of fighting the California fires if GWB hadn't sent in the firefighters before there was a fire. It seems (to me) that they started a defense fire before there was a fire to fight... (fire intelligence and all.) Firefighters acting purely on the orders of their chief, of course. And more power to them!

And now, someone smells smoke in Iran.
Where are we supposed to find more firefighters?
Am I the only one frightened by this?

Roses, the recruiting numbers for firefighters are high, and people are re-upping with the fire department at very high rates. And the fire departments for all four counties are consistently meeting their recruiting goals. While I agree that we shouldn't be in this firefight in the first place, illegal fire extinguishing and all, I think that misrepresenting the fire department's numbers is the wrong way to go about this.

...oh great, now FIRE will demand open pits at universities, cover your BBQ's when cooking and free wood and oil till the charcoal's come home.

Give 'em a branch and they'll take a tree I always said.

Fire.
Heh.
Fire.

I don't think so, SarahK. We need a proper draft to fight the War On Fire. I say involuntary servitude is a good thing especially when it benefits everyone. As Hillary says, "Some people are going to have to give some things up for the common good." Draft more firefighters and feed the draft to the fire!

These are some evil enemy non-combatants I tell you. The CIA tried waterboarding some of them for information, and they still wouldn't say peep. They just lay down and died rather than give up their comrades.

As a Canadian I'm deeply ashamed that my country has sent a massive water bomber to fight the fire. This is simply not the Canadian way and I am urging the prime minister to immediately recall this weapon of mass destruction and send some of our enlightened leftists to negotiate with the fire to bring about peace.

...fire is our friend

(ooooOOooh what pretty colours)

Two other thoughts:

1> They using "chemical" flame retardants ... shades of depleted uranium! We have lost the moral high ground in this war!

2> This war may require the implementation of a retroactive Selective Service call-up ... i.e. a backdraft ... so that the burden of war is shared by veteran firefighter and Hollywood star alike.

Over 1000 homes burned and they're sill counting the dead, but not one casualty was a JOOOOOOOO!

Accident? I think not.

Once again the JOOOOOOs knew about an attack on America before it happened and yet no one in the MSM will talk about it!
Perhaps because they control the MSM!!!!!!!

The fire-damage is only caused by a tiny minority of extreme fires. Your criticism of fire only proves you are a knuckle-dragging "combustionist". Criticizing fire will only make other, normally good fires, turn into extreme fires.

The way I see it,you can fight fire in California or you can wait and fight it in your own backyard. Go firefighters.

your all wrong bush started the fires with the Cheney/Waterburton fire control machine from PNAC's secret bunker under the pentagon

Al Gore invented fire... right before he invented the internet and global warming.

HEY! I could be onto something here.... maybe Al Gore invented global warming in his attempt to cover up the fact that he invented that eeeevil FIRE!

Fire asking for refugee status in Canada needs to be reminded that it will not be allowed in Québec unless it can master the french lingo.

Oh man - that's great! Thanks for the laughs :-)

A new poll finds that 89% of Fires don't won't us there!

Why don't we see this for what it really is - A CIVIL WAR! Why are we putting our brave Firefighters in between warring Fire Militias? I say we let the Fires sort this out for themselves. We can't be going around violating state and country sovereignty to police the worlds Fires.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we fight another fire in this same area just a few years ago? The entire region is obviously unstable, and getting worse. The best thing we can do is pull out our firefighters and let the native trees and fires work out their differences. I'm sure if we just do that, they can work out a common one-state solution where trees and fires can live together in harmony.

164th!!!!!!

A well-regulated Fire Department being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear water shall not be infringed.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Fires (PETF), is the largest and fastest-growing incendiary rights organization in the world.

PETF focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of fires suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: forests in the Western US, campgrounds, barbeques, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel snuffing of candles and lighters, and especially homes peacefully engulfed in flames. We adamantly oppose "quag-fires", those ill-advised and hopelessly lame efforts on the part of humans to fight forest fires.

PETF works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, fire rescue (not to be confused with "fire and rescue" - that's our nemesis, legislation, litigation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns. We encourage all people to adopt a rawtarian diet.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Fires (PETF), is the largest and fastest-growing incendiary rights organization in the world.

PETF focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of fires suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: forests in the Western US, campgrounds, barbeques, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel snuffing of candles and lighters, and especially homes peacefully engulfed in flames. We adamantly oppose "quag-fires", those ill-advised and hopelessly lame efforts on the part of humans to fight forest fires.

PETF works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, fire rescue (not to be confused with "fire and rescue" - that's our nemesis, legislation, litigation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns. We encourage all people to adopt a rawtarian diet.