One word: Efficiency.

I believe it is called the 2nd law of Thermodynamics. You know, the one about being unable to stop entropy. So long as there is entropy, there is waste, and so long as there is waste you will never have "100% clean electricity". The only question is what form that waste takes, and where it appears.

Another Word: Meat!

According to the tree huggers meat produces more green house gases than cars do, but people like meat so no one talks about it. FOR NOW

Scale. Liberals see their solar powered calculator come on and think it's simple. It doesn't seem to me that they have any appreciation for the massive level of energy required, or the massive outlay required to provide that energy. Combine that with the vast acreage of Solar panels that would be required for solar, or for windfarms for that oh-so-reliable wind, how much deforestation would that cause, and how critically will that loss of carbon-absorbing trees offset any gains from clean electricity? When something comes as easy as flipping a switch, it's easy to take it for granted, and not understand the miraculous ballet of free maraket enterprise that makes it happen.

Well, we may not have enough material to build the slave labor camps this will inevitably lead to.

Sorry, lost my sense of humor for a second there.

None of these 'clean sources' are highly reliable.
I get extremely cranky when the AC isn't working. Furthermore, I am heavily armed and an excellent shot. Are libtards sure they want to entrust their safety to wind power?

Well, we may not have enough material to build the slave labor camps this will inevitably lead to.

What a great idea! Let's just have prison inamtes sit around and turn generators all day. It's not like they have anything better to do. And if they refuse to do it, we shoot them on the spot. We'll increase our energy and decrease our prison population at the same time. It's brilliant!

The Brain is right as usual, however, the complete answer depends on what the meaning of "clean" is. If "clean" means no emissions of any kind in the actual process of generating electricity, then, yeah, it will be theoretically possible - eventually - with some combination of hydro power, photovoltaic, wind, thermal, thermionic and tidal. Night-time demand and storage is probably the biggest technical - and economic - problem. It certainly isn't a political one.

Have you seen their "WE demand" commercial?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydOPBL5iO2Y

They sound like petulant children demanding to be given whatever they want. I swear to G*d if I ever meet Newt Gingrich I'll demand to know who the f*ck he thinks he is demanding to be given stuff. He sure as hell isn't a conservative anymore.

You don't like oil? Fine, then don't use it - or is that too inconvenient for you whiney brats? Why is it you demand someone else do these things for you? Why don't you do them for yourselves? Why don't you WE people get together and build a wind/solar/whatever powerplant? How hard can it be - all you have to do want it badly enough, right? And you've got that covered, right? So go do something about it besides bitch.

I don't usually get very worked up over these people - but that commercial just makes me want to beat the snottiness out of some holier-than-thou greenie puke.

We simply need the political will to tap our massive reserves of pixie dust and fairy farts to make this happen. Thats change we can all believe in!

RE: #7 - Posted by: Ernie Loco on August 22, 2008 09:28 AM

Wow, I had the same idea the other day, except my version had jobless welfare recipients turning the turbines. But I think I like the idea of using prisoners even better. I can't believe we aren't tapping into this massive labor force that we are already paying for (but getting nothing out of).

Hello, Nuclear. It is all natural and all it does is warm up water for a steam turbine. What about the spent fuel rods you may ask? Well were did they come from in the first place? Mother Earth that's where. Nuclear power has been used by the Euro's for years. Put the used rods way underground and detonate a charge sealing them in and call it a day. I would be happy to have a nuclear plant near my home. Thanks to all the cheap electricity it would provide I almost wouldn't mind an electric car. Well if it could go 400 miles at 100 mph plus and hot chicks think I'm cool driving it. Go nuclear and free us from the oil barrens.

A couple of years ago in Massachusetts, some folks wanted to build windmills to generate electricity. Ted Kennedy stopped them because he thought it might impede his view. He's just one unusually fat ugly and obnoxious NIMBY, but there are millions more waiting to stop just about every possible new energy generation opportunity.

In Liberal speak, she's correct:

"there are no technical or material impediments to achieving the goal of 100% clean electricity within ten years."

When translated to Liberal Speak, things like budgets or time constraints are made to be broken, and no one expects you to actually complete a task on time or under budget. So, spending the next 50 or 60 years bankrupting the country, continually throwing more taxpayer dollars at failed "clean electricity" attempts is "success", because Liberals will feel better for trying...as long as they have electricity for THEIR houses and gas for THEIR cars while we're doing this expensive little experiment

...meanwhile, the earth will continue to cool, as it has been.

I think you're missing her point. Electricity generation will be 100% clean because there will be no electricity generated at all.

Enjoy your mud huts, and I hope that it doesn't get too cold where you live, because you won't be allowed to start a fire, since that causes pollution and global warmening, too!

It's very simple. We build huge buildings filled with pods for storing humans and use the electricity from their brains to power everything. We then live in a simulated world with computer programs implemented as artificial people.

Dude, if we do this right we could get cool super powers in the imaginary world that let us fly and dodge bullets!

When the time comes, you won't need to dodge bullets.

Anyone been to Boston lately? There were no "technical or material impediments" to completing the Big Dig in 10 years either.

OHMYGOD! Why didn't you WeGuys tells me before now that we're missing our will?

Will Rogers?
Will Smith?
Will Ferrell?
Will Robinson?
Slick Will-y?

Geez, some friends WE are...

OMG! Ernie, you need to call Sherrif Joe NOW! I'm thinking that with this, we may be able to turn the Maricopa county prison from a low-cost, to a profitable prison! :D

#17: You won't need to worry about coffins, either. Just maggots.

You know these WE web-ads promoting this 100% in 10 Years look like a bunch of people trying to tip over porta-pottys.

I care deeply about the environment, because that is where I live. In an effort to accomplish the responsible thing (in 100% clean electricity) I recently installed solar panels and a wind turbine at a considerable expense. I am very sorry to report that even after this great sacrifice I have found that I still need to dust my appliances!

I am quite disappointed--Muslims are outraged!

Burt

Harvey, to be consistent with the notion of free will, "political will" must be a subset thereof. But according to the latest multi-verse theory in Quantum Mechanics (the god of physics), there is no such thing. Every possible choice that we could make at any given moment explodes into an infinite number of parallel universes. And therefore all possible outcomes exist all the time.

So, if the theory is true, how come we're STUCK in the one with WEtards?

After she said that, someone should have asked her if she considered salmon an impediment. Because dams are about as clean, efficient, safe and renewable as it gets.

You know, 100% in 10 years, is really just two "Five Year Plans". That may mark the WEtards as members of the Stalinist/ International Socialist camp, but the whole "Triumph of the Will" thing overwhelmingly swings the pendulum toward the National variety of Socialism. Too Bad Leni Riefenstahl is dead. Her genius is just what WE needs.

Convicts spend too much time working out as it is.
Organ farms are the answer!
Keep them fat, comatose and happy (AKA the matrix), and use them for spare parts and a renewable source of fresh blood.
A convicted murderer might end up saving more lives than he took if we manage it right.
Those convicted of less severe crimes ... OK, let'em run in the wheel to earn their daily bread!
But if they step out of line, 'The Farm'.

Cathy Zoi's plan to convert the U.S to clean energy closely would resemble the Egyptians plan for building the Pyramids. (With conservatives playing the Hebrews.) Like most things liberals believe in, they think of their perfect end result with out considering logic and common sense. (This would explain why the most unqualified candidate possible is now their nominee.)

Liberals love pointing out T. Boone Pickens and how he is now for "Clean" energy. This of course is because none of them have seen or red his plan. In the same example libertards quote, Pickens calls for more off shore Drilling and in ANWAR. Also the wind farms he's spending his own billions on would go bankrupt with out the Federal government subsidizing him. No wonder the Democrats think he’s wonderful, the government is bankrolling him like the do the rest of their base.

Either way the Liberals have no plan and want the magical Government to figure out one. Weller put it best when he said "Nothing is impossible for the person who doesn't have to do it."

Let us all remember how Ethanol was going to save the planet, cut energy costs and whiten everyones teeth (ok not true but slightly amusing).

Thanks to the nimrods that pushed for it before we could find out how it would affect us, we have $4.00 a pound ground beef, $4.00 a gallon milk and we're still paying $3.50 at the pump.

Democrats and enviro-terrorist, helping us all to the poor house one penny at a time.

NIMBY's. Everyone want's clean power but no one wants the generators near them.

Mother Nature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3FZtmlHwcA

Re: #9

Good idea, but you don't even have to go to the trouble of building anything. Take your savings and INVEST in an alternative energy company. It would be like taking care of the disadvantaged by giving to charity, rather than having your neighbors taxed to do it. But if it can be done in 10 years, you could make a fortune.

With out a doubt Stalinist. They are NJF - MSG 's....

Although Nazi stands for National Socialist and thus is not too far from them.

Windmills kill birds. There's nothing clean about a pile of dead birds next to every windmill. Piles of rotting, maggot infested bird carcasses are not 100% clean, no.

Make the wind turbine blades from wood and canvas like the old fashioned dutch windmills.
More scenic and not so hard on the birds.
We could plant tulips around the bases and start wearing wooden shoes.
When we've ended global warming and the next regularly scheduled ice-age arrives we can all ice skate like Hans Brinker!

Not so much Stalin/Hitler as their common idol, Nietzsche -- Der Wille zur Macht and all that.