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IMAO » Blog Archive » Frank on Science!: Higgs Boson — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:04:24 +0000

[...] Collider could create black holes and destroy the universe, but Science! has already shown we have 10^10^16 universes, so that’s not really a big [...]

By: 4 of 7

4 of 7 — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:29:52 +0000

James – sorry, I couldn’t resist.
But seriously …
St. Thomas Aquinas believed that every man could be lead to faith in God through logical, rational arguments from observed facts and first principles; but that most people needed to come to faith through revelation, because most human lives aren’t long enough to finish the argument.
I know the Bible is true not because I was argued into it, but because I’ve met the Author – (metaphorically).

By: James

James — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:37:28 +0000

Mmm, you’re right… “methaphor” is something completely different!

Right on, that’s one massive mullusk!

By: 4 of 7

4 of 7 — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:31:33 +0000

#35 – James,
“I think it’s fair to see at least *some* metaphor (FIFY) at work there…”

Why, bless you, I know that!

That’s just the ‘Heavenly Jerusalem’.
But since this post seems concerned with mankind’s propensity to be impressed with large numbers, I thought it an appropriate contribution.
Which is more awesome, a large number, or the mind capable of comprehending and giving the number meaning?
For instance, the walls of the city are a hundred and forty-four cubits (approx. 216 feet) tall (Rev. 21:17) and has twelve gates, each gate made from a single pearl (Rev. 21:21).
Got that?
Now try to imagine those oysters!

By: Steve Horth

Steve Horth — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:46:02 +0000

>> It’s ideas like that that would make me a much better ruler than a pine cone.

I agree – Frank would not be a very good pine cone.

By: James

James — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:23:29 +0000

“[More or less possible than that being the motivation for your comment? -Ed.]”

Zing!

I’d say More. :p My dogma has an overwhelming amount of evidence. My faith is much too weak for Dawkin’s definition of faith. I’m more comfortable being a Doubting Thomas with lots of proof than a Dancing Nancy with a made up multiverse.

#23, I’d be careful about pressing the size of the city into being the heaven where the afterlife happens. Given that the city you’re referencing, is not only built like a cube, but is also a bride to the Lamb, I think it’s fair to see at least *some* methaphor at work there…

By: marvin

marvin — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:09:33 +0000

Frank, that means their is a universe, with an earth, ruled by a guy who thinks almost exactly like you do, who is probably planning to attack us right now for copyright infringement, and has spent hundreds of billions of dollars on building a portal. We are so screwed.

On the other hand, is it better to side with our own Obama ruled earth, or should we betray this universe, and side with the cool FrankJ ruled one? Would that FrankJ accept us as loyal followers, or see us as treasonous traitors who can’t be trusted? This is important, as it will decide who we side with? Only one man knows the answer to what we should do, and he is too busy preparing for a pine cone apocalypse.

By: ss396

ss396 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:21:47 +0000

I’ve seen a lot of them, and they aren’t really all that they’re cracked up to be. They’re kinda like species definition in this universe: if there’s a bit of a color splotch then it’s a different species; if the first twig is at a different angle then it’s a different species; the facial organs are in a different order then it’s a different species.

Same thing with these universes. There is a dreary number of them in which I’m still sitting in my Mom’s basement in my pajamas.

By: VelvetElvis

VelvetElvis — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:03:01 +0000

The big pine tree in my back yard has been acting mighty suspiciously lately.

Maybe the Pine Cone universe is planning a first strike!!

By: ussjimmycarter

ussjimmycarter — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:32:25 +0000

Prattle and Tripe! Scientists need to stick to something that is real…like Al Gore’s global warming scam! Or my theory that all scientists are child molesters!

By: Dr. Mayhem

Dr. Mayhem — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:46:12 +0000

This is only the number of universes distinguishable to the human brain, and it pretty much assumes that a human brain is going to be your standard ball of meat weighing no more than about 1.4kg.

It does not account for the many universes which are run by squirrels.

By: Delacon

Delacon — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:34:56 +0000

Even though there is a universe out there that rightfully acknowleges my brilliance(which people in this one should have admitted years ago) my daddy said you have to play the universe you’re dealt. My dad was even smarter than I and was the man that told Einstein “Get the fricken math right”!

By: HCG

HCG — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:43:25 +0000

10^10^16 universes? Are they sure? Somebody needs to check their math, because I seem to remember that Robert Heinlein said there were 6^6^6 universes, and he was wicked smart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Number_of_the_Beast_%28novel%29

By: Terry_Jim

Terry_Jim — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:43:07 +0000

How many universes can fit on a pinhead? No, not Olbermann, a literal pin head.

By: HCG

HCG — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:34:44 +0000

“It’s ideas like that that would make me a much better ruler than a pine cone.”

Don’t sell yourself short Frank. You would make an excellent pine cone.

By: Son of Bob

Son of Bob — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:57:28 +0000

And, still more frightening is the fact that those 10^10^16 possible universes are all experiencing a rapid increase in temperature simply because I insist on putting my groceries in a plastic bag.

By: zzyzx

zzyzx — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:27:45 +0000

So many universe’s….so little time!

By: 4 of 7

4 of 7 — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:35:00 +0000

A new Heaven and a new Earth?
Already in the works!

“Few religions are definite about the size of Heaven, but on the planet Earth the Book of Revelation (ch. XXI, v. 16) gives it as a cube 12,000 furlongs on a side. This is somewhat less than 500,000,000,000,000,000,000 cubic feet. Even allowing that the Heavenly Host and other essential services take up at least two thirds of this space, this leaves about one million cubic feet of space for each human occupant – assuming that every creature that could be called ‘human’ is allowed in, and that the human race eventually totals a thousand times the number of humans alive up until now. This is such a generous amount of space that it suggests that room has also been provided for some alien races or – a happy thought – that pets are allowed.”
– Terry Pratchett, The Last Hero.

By: Ben Christenson

Ben Christenson — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:10:53 +0000

All those universes and Obama isn’t effective in any of them.

By: Crusty

Crusty — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:46:22 +0000

People in another universe postulate that there’s a bizarre, irrational alternate universe to theirs where a handout-chasing, racist, Marxist, completely unaccomplished stuttering nipplehead becomes the most powerful man in the world. Then they laugh, for no universe could be that dum stoopid.

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:34:06 +0000

I’ve seen what’s coming out of D.C. these days we ARE the universe ruled by hyperintelligent pine cones

By: MikeLL

MikeLL — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:53:01 +0000

I am not at all pleased with the thought that there could be an alternate universe out there somewhere in which I am gay. Yikes! Science! is not cool and needs to stay in the laboratory.

By: Silicon Valley Jim

Silicon Valley Jim — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:49:07 +0000

Oh, the possibilities!

A universe in which lefties are rational.

A universe in which Sonia Sotomayor and Helen Thomas look like actual human beings.

A universe in which the newspapers with the largest circulations cover important news stories and tell the truth about them.

A universe in which no member of Congress is owned by anybody.

A universe in which the weather is Californian and the people are Midwestern.

A universe in which cauliflower and Brussels sprouts taste good.

A universe in which I can go to Trader Joe’s without having anybody outside the door solicit me for money or a signature for a petition.

By: Wacky Hermit

Wacky Hermit — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:48:16 +0000

Can we go to the universe where President Fred Thompson has signed a contract with Joss Whedon to make ten more seasons of “Firefly”? Please?

By: Joel Hoekstra

Joel Hoekstra — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:30:49 +0000

Unless there’s an alternate universe where Farscape went on for a fifth season, I’m not interested. On the other hand, if there’s an alternate universe where the seventh season of 24 didn’t suck, I might be willing to give that one a try. At least once.