A New Best in Being Unclear on the Concept of Christmas

Posted on December 15, 2012 12:00 pm

Residents in a California senior apartment complex are protesting an order from management to remove their beloved Christmas tree from the community room because, they were told, it’s a “religious symbol”.

Yes, remember that part in the Bible when the 3 Wise Men brought myrrh, frankincense, and pine-scented air-fresheners?

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13 Responses to “A New Best in Being Unclear on the Concept of Christmas”

  1. CI says:

    I’m of two minds on this; starting with the fact that as a business owner, the management is well within it’s right to determine what goes into common spaces. And technically they’re correct, since like many symbols and rituals in Christianity, the tree is adopted from pagan worship.

    But there is a certain ‘grinchiness’ to the managements decision.

  2. Son of Bob says:

    Odd, in the Constitution it specifically protects your right to have a tree, not to take down a tree.

  3. Keln says:

    The Constitution says “Congress shall make no law…”, it does not say “Privately owned apartments shall make no rules…”.

    So what these people should do is find another place to live. Or at least threaten to. Let their money speak for them.

    Constitutions protect your rights from government infringement, not from private infringement. Money protects you from that.

  4. calcpa says:

    It’s pagan thing. Maybe they’re opposed to pagan worship.

  5. NoMoBama says:

    it’s a religious symbol (no it’s not) annnnnd….? If the people who pay to live there want it (including the Joooos) why do they care?
    I bet they get Obama bucks and they got a memo that said all non Muslim stuff has to go.

  6. Fly says:

    You’re right Keln, but no one is suing. So far, the dispute has been entirely private. It’s being fought using protest and the media.

  7. Keln says:

    I know Fly, but a lot of people believe the Constitution is a complete guarantee of rights. It isn’t. It it is a guarantee that your rights will not be infringed by the government. It’s like when companies tell employees that they cannot say things about the company on Facebook, and people get all mad and say “freedom of speech!”. Well, that freedom is guaranteed by the Constitution as far as the government goes. But it does not restrict a business from making policies against saying things about the company in a public forum. And a business has a right to set its rules. Nobody is forcing their employees to keep working there.

  8. NoMoBama says:

    Nobody is forcing their employees to keep working there.

    YET

  9. Keln says:

    Indeed, comrade.

  10. Son of Bob says:

    Keln, You’re 100 percent correct that the apartment complex is within their right to do so, however, this is a recent phenomenon – years ago a senior apartment complex would have never dreamed of taking down a Christmas tree. This entire political correctness/war on Christmas movement is an extension of the phony “separation of church and state” nonsense that libs were able to pull off so that they could begin removing any Christian symbols on the grounds that they “might offend someone.”

  11. Keln says:

    Trust me SoB, I am on the side of the residents here. I hate that there is a war on religion and tradition. But I also acknowledge that there is a great way to fight against it: free market capitalism.

  12. Harvey says:

    Interesting debate, but I’ll say in my own defense that I only posted this because I was amused that Christmas trees (as #3 pointed out, a non-Christian tradition) would be considered “religious”.

    Might as well ban Santa for the same reason for all the sense that makes.

  13. Keln says:

    Christmas trees are a religious symbol. A pagan religious symbol.

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