Wonder if “Unwelcoming” Means Boxcars and Relocation Camps?

Posted on January 13, 2013 3:00 pm

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The Free State Project is an effort to recruit 20,000 liberty-loving people to move to New Hampshire. We are looking for neighborly, productive, tolerant folks from all walks of life, of all ages, creeds, and colors who agree to the political philosophy expressed in our Statement of Intent, that government exists at most to protect people’s rights, and should neither provide for people nor punish them for activities that interfere with no one else.

Their theory is that 20,000 politically active people would be enough to leverage control of the state government, whereupon they could get to work repealing liberty-crushing state laws as well as opting out of participating in many federal programs that tie onerous strings to their money.

One New Hampshire Democrat’s reaction to this “threat”:

“In the opinion of this Democrat, Free Staters are the single biggest threat the state is facing today. There is, legally, nothing we can do to prevent them from moving here to take over the state, which is their openly stated goal. In this country you can move anywhere you choose and they have that same right. What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave.”

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13 Responses to “Wonder if “Unwelcoming” Means Boxcars and Relocation Camps?”

  1. Jay says:

    “What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave.”

    Well that explains the State of Oregon’s policy the last few decades.

  2. Zeke says:

    See, that’s the dilemma. There are all sorts of political theories that insist they’ll prove themselves if they’re ever really tried out. Some (like libertarianism) make better cases than others (like whatever the hell the Occupiers want), but they all have the same problem: there’s no room. All the good land is taken, and civilized people don’t conquer anymore. We don’t have sophisticated enough simulations either. The best outsiders can do is something like this Free State Project, which wouldn’t be true libertarianism because the federal government would still have all the real power — and it doesn’t take kindly to uppity states, as we’ve seen with Arizona and immigration.

    I don’t think much of this idea, personally. It rubs me the wrong way. Politics are almost always the wrong reason to move, especially if your explicit goal is to force your own politics on your new neighbours. And even in the unlikely event that it worked, I think the situation would get very bad before it had a chance of getting good. But man, part of me really wants to see what would happen.

  3. Jimmy says:

    They used to be looking for 10,000, I think. Now it’s 20,000.

    “…means boxcars and relocation camps?”

    Well, off topic, but it does for the Seattle Water Fowl.

  4. CarolyntheMommy says:

    Dear A-hole Dem in NH,

    NH was a conservative state until you Massholes moved north into our beautiful land for its lack of taxes and then turned it all sour. In the last 20 years you are what made our beautiful land unwelcoming. Kindly move west to Vermont, Dbag.



  5. Nate says:

    I’m not so sure. Federal law may supersede state law, but any power that the federal government has relies on it’s ability to force compliance; depending on the level of resistance that might even require military action, I’m not so sure there would be any stomach for that, especially within the military itself. Our soldiers tend to be more patriotic than the average person. I don’t see that fact as being good news for any government body seeking to limit our freedom.

  6. Simplulo says:

    Jimmy, from the beginning the target has beem 20k, but now it is generally accepted among free-staters that far fewer, even 1k, would be effective enough to justify moving. The new FSP paradigm is a snowball, not an avalanche.

  7. Vaktatunnen says:

    The sad thing is that there is a need for this in New Hampshire, as that was once considered the sane part of the northeast (with the exception of the part of Maine that is really Cold Alabama). It must be because of immigration from Vermont and Massachusetts. But I wouldn’t have thought they’d breed true.

  8. Harvey says:

    @5 – It’s not so much resistance as “opting out”. A lot of Fed programs are of the type “do what we tell you or we won’t give you money for schools, roads, welfare, medicaid, etc.”

    So they forgo the money & do whatever seems smart instead of doing what they’re told. Feds can’t do a damn thing.

  9. Grand Larsen E. says:

    Maybe the lobs will stop bathing, if they did in the first place.

  10. Writer says:

    The Lefties are very good at making Conservatives unwelcome.

  11. Son of Bob says:

    “What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave.”

    Isn’t that what they already did?

  12. zzyzx says:

    Live Free or Die! Once you have joined the rest of the NE states in lock step with the Liberal wing of the Democratic (is there any other wing) Party, can we Alaskans borrow your state motto? Because really…it’s still cool and if you no longer want to use it, believe me…we would like to.

  13. wwww says:

    “What we can do is to make the environment here so unwelcoming that some will choose not to come, and some may actually leave.”

    Coincidentally, that’s also Obama’s plan for dealing with illegal immigration.

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