What Is the Point of GOP Moderates?

Posted on February 5, 2013 11:00 am

So Karl Rove has started some new group with his SuperPAC to help establishment GOP candidates in the primaries, and this has caused some controversy. The argument is we’re nominating too many extremists who are losing elections and we need squishy moderates to keep winning GOP seats in the Senate. To which I ask: Winning us seats to do what?

Here’s my biggest problem with moderates: I don’t get the point of them. It reminds me of an even dumber variation of the underwear gnomes:

Phase 1: Nominate moderates.
Phase 2: Win elections.
Phase 3: ??

I know for Karl Rove, Phase 2 is an end in itself because winning elections is how he makes his money, but what is the long term strategy with these moderates? Are they going to fundamentally transform things and take on entitlements? No, because that would rock the boat and harm future election prospects. Right now the country is a car speeding towards a cliff, and all the moderates are ever offering to do is ease up the gas a little. How is that useful? By helping moderates get elected, all we ever seem to achieve is to get some guy I don’t know or like a cushy, high-paying job. I’m supposed to be happy and go, “Yay! My team won!” over that?

I mean, I’m okay with moderates in states where conservatives have no chance as slowing down the Democrats is useful at times, but if the people trying to actually turn the tide are really unelectable, I’ll sign up with the “let it burn” crowd before I only support useless moderates. I want to tear down the bloated government we have, and we’ll get their quicker letting Democrats ruin things than we will with GOP moderates tweaking the status quo.

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15 Responses to “What Is the Point of GOP Moderates?”

  1. John D says:

    I assume this would be the same Karl Rove who, late into election night, assured us that Mitt Romney was winning the 2012 presidential election? Sorry, Karl, but you’ve jumped the shark. Time to pack up and go home.

  2. Jimmy says:

    @John D:

    “Time to pack it up your nose and go home.”

    Fixed it for you. You were being too nice.

  3. FormerHostage says:

    Moderates in the GOP do have a point. It’s right there between their ears.

  4. Jimmy says:

    I agree we’re a ticking time bomb. But no one is able to read the timer!

    Also, got news for the “let it burn” crowd: It’s already burning.

  5. R & D says:

    If Republicans are going to take us where the Dems are, but at a slower pace, what good are they? Charles Krauthammer and a number of others have pointed out Barack wants to destroy the Republicans. Going after the NRA is just another huge conservative voting block that must be divided/destroyed.

    Like the man said, “I’ve seen monkey sh!#-fights at the zoo more organized than we are!”

  6. plentyobailouts says:

    Now before everyone shuns me for being “one” of them, and comes at me with pitch forks and dinosaurs with rocket launchers, let me just say I am not a Ron Paul fan, but a fan of Ron Paul’s message.

    The so called conservatives villainized the true conservatives in the last presidential race which were Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. People like carlrove have become as big of laughing stocks as algore and joeybiDEN. The Republican party has a decision it needs to make. Will it be viable and one that represents real Americans, or will it be moderate and be the party of cry baby house speakers and bed wetting senate minority leaders? Apparently they have chosen the later.

    So the term everything in moderation should only apply to beer, bar B-Q, and skydiving. It should never apply to conservatism, capitalism, guns, or bacon.

  7. Oppo says:

    Daniel Greenfield on the Republican party establishment:

    “Fortunately there is a clear path to victory. All we have to do is convince the Party of Consultants that all is lost and that they should come out as Democrats now. If they do that, then the Democratic Party will be a useless ruin within a decade. If they don’t do that, the Republican Party will have the same policies as the Democratic Party, except for the part where it wins elections.”


  8. Carpenter says:

    “What Is the Point of GOP Moderates?”
    The POINT is to WIN!

    Take Ronald Reagan for instance, compared to Jimmy Carter (and his gang liberal extremists) Reagan was a MODERATE. That’s why Reagan won 44 states in 1980.

    Then when the John Birch Society and Libertarians (and the Liberals) started calling Reagan a Facsist, a Nazi, a Commie, a warmonger, ect.. Ronald Reagan was the more MODERATE choice. That’s why Reagan won 49 states in 1984. Are you seeing a pattern develop yet?

    Ronald Reagan was a DEMOCRAT most of his life. And he appealed to so many DEMOCRATS in 1980 and 1984 that they had to come up with a NEW word to describe this confusing phenomenon. The REAGAN DEMOCRATS voted for Reagan because compared to the other choices available (Carter, Mondale, Ron Paul, the Birchers) at that time Reagan was the only MODERATE!

    That Is the Point of a GOP Moderate!
    The POINT is to WIN!

  9. Doug says:

    The Republican Party has been taken over, just as the Democrat Party was. The present GOP leadership and their surrogates need to be removed and replaced by Conservative TEA Party Patriots. We have to regain control of our Country but we first have to regain control of our Party.

  10. Son of Bob says:

    Establishment good ol’ boys like Rove are so threatened by the Tea Party that they’d rather take down what’s left of the party they’ve destroyed than let it be taken over by real conservatives who would rightfully kick them to the curb.

  11. Boffo says:

    Of course Karl Rove is right that moderates are much more likely to win elections. That’s why Presidents McCain and Romney won such sweeping victories.

  12. Carpenter says:

    McCain isn’t a moderate republican. He is a friggin’ LIBERAL who took a crap on the Republican Party every chance he could for 30+ years. Need I mention that McCain-Feingold was sponsored and funded by George Soros? And then there was the McCain-Kennedy Immigration Reform and then the damned McCain-Lieberman Climate Change Legislation….

    do you need more proof? because there is plenty!!

    Saying that McCain is a ‘Moderate Republican’ is like claiming that Ron is a Republican. They are both friggin’ RINOs. McCain IS a Liberal and Ron Paul IS a kook LiberalTarian who wants to legalize prostitution and all drugs.

    and finally Romney did lost. The left never won that election legally. Obama was never legally elected.

  13. plentyobailouts says:

    @12 — Racist

  14. Idahoser says:

    it’s also how you end up with “republicans” being nominated for things by democrats and conservatives are complaining about it.

  15. Mecahawk says:

    Theoretically, as long as you have person with an (R) next to their name in congress, it lets you pass more conservative bills than if the conservative loses the election to someone with a (D) next to their name. Sadly, conservatives can’t win every election but middle-right republicans occasionally can.

    Granted, I don’t believe this about the presidency, but it works for smaller races on occasion.

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