Somehow I’m on some e-mail lists about the birther movement. While everyone else is on all the spending, the lost jobs, cap & trade, the huge health care bill, they’re completely ignoring that and still beating that dead horse about… I’m not even sure anymore. That Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii? That Obama was born in Hawaii but somehow isn’t eligible for president? Anyway, the e-mail yesterday was to flood Glenn Beck’s radio program with calls to get him to respond to the issue as he’s part of the conspiracy or something. Apparently, it worked in at least getting him to respond.
So can we move on? Or when the country is falling apart, do people really expect us to campaign in 2010 saying, “Elect Republicans because Obama hasn’t shown us the long form!”
Being President of The United States is like just so Yesterday! I expect a run for “Most Glorious & Benevolent Servant of The World” as Obama takes control through the UN!
I think its a synapse issue with some people it just keeps firing like a nervous tic and a face muscle keeps twiching. or maybe touretts. like sitting in a mcdonalds eating a hamburger and blurting out wheres the long form!?
same thing with being a one note nellie crying about the long form. they cant help it they cant move on they are a human broken record.
for anyone reading this who is a birther, WAKE UP you will doom chances of ousting obummer by making your birther crap front and center in the next election!
Looks like the campaign was a success, Beck did mentioned it. Epic fail!
I really wish someone would grab the birthers by the neck, shake them real real hard while shouting YOU ARE NOT HELPING!!!
Then that someone should tie them all to a nuclear armed rocket and launch them at the moon
ive never met a “birther” in real life or I would be tempted to shout wake up your not helping in thier face.
they always seem to be disimbodied voices calling shows like hue hewitt only to be told to take a hike he doesnt discuss birther nonsense, than they always fiegn astonishment ask what a birther is, like they dont know thats what everyone calls them.
(DISCLAIMER: I don’t claim to be a “birther”, I just did a bit of research on this stuff) The issue really isn’t (or shouldn’t be) whether Obama was born in the US, but whether he is a citizen. When he moved to Indonesia and became an Indonesian citizen (happened automatically under Indonesian law when his stepfather adopted him), he lost his US citizenship as Indonesia did not allow dual citizenships at the time. If he never reapplied for citizenship on his return to the US, he’s still not a citizen and thus cannot be president. Thus the focus shouldn’t be on this birth certificate issue at all. We have records of him reapplying for US citizenship…somewhere…right?
Heeeeere trollie trollie troll troll…
2 points
1 Androids don’t have birth certificates
2 I forget the second point
I’m not a “birther” but I do find myself wondering why these simple questions can’t get simple answers – – why the damn documents can’t just be produced and end the whole issue. It’s like the old “the coverup is worse than the offense” maxim. Why cover up a non-offense?
That said, I do find it just a bit annoying when the same people who get their hackles up at the way the libs and the press managed to marginalize “creationism” as some kind of crank belief held only by crackpots , are now doing the same thing to people who seem to have, at the basis, a legitimate question – – that relating to the probity of the President’s citizenship.
If you want to catch Obama on breaking a minor technicality in the Constitution (rather than his much more sweeping and fundamental violations, which are far more numerous and more damaging), call him out on appointing Hillary to a position that had its salary increased while she was in the Senate. That’s something that’s explicitly disallowed in the Constitution, and no one can possibly dispute that Obama did it, and you don’t have to deal with being called a racist.
I really don’t understand all the hatred toward people who question what we’ve been offered as proof of Obama’s legal right to hold office…while, at the same time, no one seems to know ANYTHING about where this guy came from or how he arrived at the presidential candidacy in the first place. None of the legal suits filed in US courts challenging his legal status have been dismissed or defeated on merit…all have been dismissed on questionable procedural grounds, basically stating that a voter isn’t impacted enough by the president to have the right to know if his president is legally his president?! It should be a simple matter for Obama to produce an actual birth certificate…instead we get a questionable “certificate of live birth”, which we know Hawaii was handing out to anyone who asked at the time, and an unknown government employee making two statements that the employee has “seen the pertinent documents and considers him to be legal”, and for people to stop questioning it? This while another country is putting up a monument to Obama in “the town of his birth”.
Obama and friends are moving forward on several fronts at once to destroy the country, so why can’t some American citizens question whether or not this guy should be removed from an office he may well illegally hold while others move forward on fighting the other more current issues at the same time? If we were informed that another country held an election and that the guy who was put in office might not even be legally eligible to hold office, we would consider the citizens of that country to be idiots for not, at the very least, questioning it, wouldn’t we?
Don’t bother Teh One with this nonsense. He has far more omportant thaings to worry about, like what dressing to serve on His arugula salads, and how to spin the Undiebomber into a plot by Bushco. (The moroms on pmsnbc where trying to last night. Really.) The libbies think Dick Cheney has spys in the CIA that set Obama up for the Undiebomber attack. We all know that is not how Dick Cheney works. He uses rocket mounted dinos.
I, guess the right has the birthers, and the left has Bush wass behind 911.
Me? I’ll just have a cup of tea
Your president may have been born in hawaii, but he is no American. He was raised in indonesia and efrica by muslims and terrorists. Son of Bob brings up some good points. How was that classless disgrace able to travel on a foreign passport without denouncing his citizenship? If he was the subject of a foreign government, through adoption or other legal means, how is eligible to regain citizenship?
Other things I want to know, is who financed his education? was it done legally, what other crimes is this disgrace a party to? Is his “wife” really a woman? If he flaps those ears does it negate global warming?
The birther’s maintain traction because the MSM did a poor job in vetting BHO. Small example, AP had something like 10 fact-checkers on Palin’s book, but never bothered to fact check BHO’s book. Strange, that is.
Regarding the larger issue of unreleased documents from BHO’s past, my pet peeve is that we’ve never gotten to see his college transcripts. Yet, everyone considers him an ‘intellectual.’
WTF!
My bet is he failed economics!
I presume if they had a real birth certificate they would have published it during the tea-parties to distract from or discredit the movement. Even if every birther fact-oid turned out to be true it would hurt us more then him.
We would be in a tight spot, do we let it slide, or do we make a huge issue over what would be viewed as a technicality by Americans as a whole during a serious time. We would come off like the left-wingers do every-time they are screeching on about some leaked memo from the Bush times. America as a whole ignores them even when they are right.
Sorry
They= “Obama admin”
“Real Birth certificate”= His real one showing actually showing him being born in Hawaii
“Why don’t we go after the things that are provable………?” Beck concluded
Seems like proving where he was really born would be pretty easy, McCain did it. I had to do it just to get a drivers license, I wish I had known I could just say fvck you when they asked and given them a fake one.
From their poll: No, Beck is just fishing for mainstream credibility, since Glen Beck is a bigger idiot than Bill O’Reilly wasn’t an option.
Dead issue or not, in order for us to be a nation of LAWS, instead of technicalities, proof of natural born citizenship is required by that little somewhat relevant document normally referred to as the Constitution of the United States of America.
So unless you want to just trash the whole document, you better stick to the most tiny detail written on the damn paper.
Usurping the position of President is a crime punishable by DEATH. It is an act of TREASON.
That being said, I think the whole Rush in the hospital in HI thing may have greater outcome than us finding out there is nothing wrong with his heart, and he loves the health care system.
I wonder how far 10 million bucks would go toward getting the original long form birth certificate out of the lock-up in HI, if it even exists…
#20 – Eric,
Of course! It all makes sense now!
The dieting, the getting back in shape, then faking a heart attack while vacationing in HI … Rush was doing a ‘Mission Impossible’ hanging from the ceiling style infiltration of the Hawaii state medical records while everyone thought he was just ‘resting comfortably’.
And as a backup plan, 10 million bucks spread around judiciously couldn’t hurt.
WILL YOU BIRTHERS GO CRAWAL BACK INTO YOUR HOLES! You are not helping matters. He released his damm birth certificate already. And if the conspiracy is as deep as you suggest, what is to stop him from fabricating a new one?
Do you know why he has not released the “long form”? Because it drives you nuts even nuttier and make fools of yourselves, and by implication, us.
You want to be helpful? Read the health bill and report back to us on it.
#22 – Your points would be better received if you learned to spell…and if they weren’t so factually incorrect.
Ozero: say eric holder how do we discredit any oponents to our socialist take over of america?
winged monkey holder: well pResident Obummer we have been getting a lot of milage out of just how far and deep the birthers have gone in beingt one note nellies turning off the rest of america by sounding like conspiratorial nuts standing up on thier high horses and lecturing constitutional law to everyone else, so I would say we milk that some more so THEY DONT FOCUS ON OUR TAKEOVER OF 1/6TH OF THE ECONOMY OR ALL THE OTHER PATENTLY STATIST GOALS WE HAVE FOR TRANSFORMING AMERICA.
Ozero: gee do you think that will work?
holder the winged flying monkey: oh yeah they will hound this one like a dog with a bone to the exclusion of all the power grabs we are making. you can count on it sire.
#23 — fine, you know my secret, I was educated in the public schools.
As for my point, what inaccuracies? Let’s deconstruct things down to my points:
1. It would be better for the birthers to crawl back into the holes. CORRECT
2. Birthers are not helping matters. CORRECT
3. He released his birth certificate. CORRECT
4. He did not release the long form. CORRECT
5. He did not release it because it drives birthers nuts. URE SPECULATION
6. Birthers going nuts makes us all look like 10 forms of crazies. CORRECT
7. You would be more helpful if you read the health bill and got back to us. CORRECT but a trick question, as Nancy Pelosi is hiding the final bill in her bra and no one wants to touch that.
oooh nnooos I must attack you personally room237//// we must attack the messenger becuase the message is much too reasonable and we have staked out our existence revolvong around being led around by the nose from obama with out knowing it.///
ever see a cat or a dog chase a dot of light from a laser pointer around the room?
anyone of you birthers have a clue who is the dog and who is the one holding the laser pointer and laughing?
room237 might have gone to public school but at least he knows whos fooling who….
In all seriousness, I think the reason that his birth certiticate has not been released is that it says he is caucasian. Think about it, a pregnant WHITE woman goes into a hospital to have a baby. The father is no where to be found (if she really knows who the father is). If you were the atteding physician and a WHITE woman was giving birth, what race would you put on the birth certificate? That’s right: WHITE (or caucasian). Now if it was released that his birth certificate says he is WHITE, its pretty hard to claim you’re the first BLACK president. Think about it.
Here is the reason that Obama needs to substantially prove to the people that he has met the Constitution’s natural born citizen requirement to be President:
The President of the United States is one of the three branches of government. He is the Executive branch. The nation speaks to all people through one voice, the President’s. The President can make treaties, grant pardons, sign and veto legislation, appoint a Cabinet, as well as Supreme Court Justices. In addition to these duties, the President knows the nation’s most important and secure secrets, and as the Commander in Chief of the military, has the military’s nuclear launch codes at the ready, and who can arguably, either take steps to weaken the nation, or even destroy it. In the words of Vice President Dick Cheney, “The president of the United States now for 50 years is followed at all times, 24 hours a day, by a military aide carrying a football that contains the nuclear codes that he would use and be authorized to use in the event of a nuclear attack on the United States. He could launch the kind of devastating attack the world has never seen. He doesn’t have to check with anybody. He doesn’t have to call the Congress. He doesn’t have to check with the courts. He has that authority because of the nature of the world we live in.” (copied with permission from birther.com)
Hey #1 when Cloward-Piven destroys the US as we know it…
…and the TEA Partiers take over this country by force (law of unintended consequences)…
“Most Glorious & Benevolent Servant of The World” will be a groovy title. 😉