Patterico was asking about the idea of just finally giving up and dividing the country in two. I think we shouldn’t end up as two countries, but instead should just make two distinct states: Free America and Sissy America. We’ll still be one country for matters of defense, but for all domestic issues would be entirely separate. In Free America, there would be minimal laws and it would be made very hard to pass any new regulations and new government programs. In Sissy America, they could regulate everything and make new programs and taxes all the time — but it all has to be funded only from citizens living in Sissy America. And it would be easy to move between the two. Like you could start out in Sissy America but decide you want to give freedom a try and go to Free America. Or you could find freedom too scary and move to Sissy America.
I think it’s a great idea that will make everyone happy as they can all have the America they want. We don’t have to call it “Free America” and “Sissy America” and can instead call is something that will appeal to liberals like “Dum Stoopids America” and “Me Am Smart America”. I don’t care what it’s called as long as I have some place liberals can’t bother me anymore.
I like it !! However,It does nothing to fix the liberals need to tell everyone else what to do.
I’m all for forcing all liberals to live in California for the rest of their lives. If we could do that, and forbid California from sending representatives to D.C., we’d actually stand a chance.
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I saw a comment about putting all of the sissies in New Jersey. Now I can’t explain why I still live in the Peoples Republic of NJ, and lord knows it has been depressing to watch the Dems destroy a state that was once a great place to do business and has some baeutiful natural resources, including hills, some of the most beautiful beaches in the US, a third of the state covered by pine forest, mostly farm land, and great physical proximity.
But I’m not sure I’m ready to give up quite yet…and many of us are fighting mad, armed, and getting ready to start kicking some ass.
We do have a fightin’ conservative governor now…so who knows? Stay tuned!
Possible names for sissy America:
The Oppressive States of America?
Socialist High tax Yankee Territories – SHYT States.
But, It probably won’t go over to well, Parasites don’t like it when their hosts want to leave and stop feeding them.
Federalism would be like a cure/vaccine for this current case of rabies between blue states and red states. It is a much better solution then deciding to put the dog down. People keep talking about a divorce but it needs an annulment red states and blue states were never intended to be so married.
Dividing the nations wouldn’t lessen the short term chance of civil war but increase it long term. Natural resources are just too necessary. Statism only temporarily survives when it can sell of all of its natural resources to some wealthy free market economies. In a few years the hardcore blue states would eventually be forced with either abandoning their failing socialist model, or convincing themselves the red states stole all the good land will all the natural resources and that they should try and reclaim it. Is their any doubt which choice the leftists the entire world over have always made?
sorry wouldn’t = “would lessen the short term chance of civil war”
I’m all in. Here’s my suggested names for Free America:
-The United States of Awesomeness(Still USA, so we don’t have to change everything, and it doesn’t have that sissy ‘free’ word in it, or ‘America’ – its time we stop honoring that lame Amerigo Vespucci. Europeans are sissy)
-ReaganRok (ala rag-na-rok) or NewReaganStan(Its time we honored the man whose name last struck true fear in the groin of our enemies)
-Texas
Alternate names for Sissy America:
-Mexico 2
-American France
-Southern Canada
-Mainland Cuba
-Imact Area 7
I would suggest that we establish a large DMZ between us and the Kos Kids to where we can banish all the moderates. A barren wasteland of mediocrity. It will serve to make us look much more awesome by contrast, and will slow down the Liberal Hordes when they inevitably spend all their money and come after us.
edit “Impact Area 7”
Also about Hawaii and Alaska. A divided America probably could not hold them.
First big tsunami that breaks out that tiny island will be wiped clean almost instantly anyway.
About Alaska, the Russians have never gotten over selling that cheap and internally have a powerful desire to reclaim it. It is my understanding many Russians have convinced themselves that America tricked them out of it. But then most Russians to this day believe that America is secretly planning to invade them. That’s the fruits of state propaganda. I feel bad for the northern Canadians they are good independent people. Its the east French/Toronto area I wish would have to be border “friends” with a Russian Alaska.
We already have that, only 50 times over. The problem is that the government whose sole responsibility was national defense has now begun to run everything. So much so that they are now forcing Free America to pay for Sissy America.
Therein is found the wisdom of this plan. The enemy would never hassle Free America, thinking (correctly) “There is a gun behind every blade of grass. We would have a better chance of extinguishing the Sun with a vial of our own wee-wee than in conquering Free America.” And Sissy America would have no worries either, as the enemy would just say to himself “Why the heck would I want to invade that dump? Ewwww!”
It’s the mongrel mingling of Sissy America and Free America that leaves us all weak.
Brian L: Your idea is a viable one. Also, instead of paying taxes, maybe we should take that money and buy each Liberal a one way ticket to California.
See, we already have Sissy States, it’s called “Canada”.
They are part of America for defense purposes after all. By that I mean, “We protect them so they can spend that money on smug lessons.”
Canada has no worries about invasion whatsoever. It’s too cold for us and nobody else wants to mess with us for their country.
There could be a realignment. They get the northeast and northwest of America, we get everything south, the midwest and western Canada.
Quebec can become its own country and then we’d embargo them and not allow any overflights to their country. When we shut the St. Lawrence Seaway they’re screwed and we get to laugh at them as they all whine about starving.
The only sticking points would be parts of Wisconsin and Illinois and all of NH. We could just ship St Louis to Philly.
Hangs head in shame… I live in a Super Sissy State, MN! I will obviously need to move… Iowa isn’t that bad…and they have the best football team on the planet…my Iowa Hawkeyes! Any team that plays them this year will be bringing extra stretchers and lots and lots of pain meds! Muwahahahahah!
Yikes! I fear that this split may happen in my lifetime, but it’ll be more than a 2 state solution and it’ll be messy.
Before people start giving up on NY, can we agree that only NYC joins “Broke Hippie America” and Upstate/Western NY can be part of Awsome America?
Can we nuke sissy Amerika once we get all the marxists there? Can we sell hippies to france? I hear canada has oil, can we haz it?
Awesome idea! Then we can see whose ideology is the best. If the libtards actually had to make a “working” government, they might just have to cr*p themselves.
I think Brian L came up with an excellent idea and got a good old brain-storming session going here. I’m for putting all the liberals in California and then letting
Dick Cheney have a go at it with his earthquake machine to create a buffer zone between us and them.
While we’re on the subject, I spent 26 years plotting “good guy” and “bad guy” positions on maps. We used blue for the friendlies and red for the enemy.
Now, what numbskull got that all bass ackwards when it comes to politics?
Why are we shipping all the libs to California? California (the land) is a great place. Hell, if we just got rid of San Fransisco half the stupid and 90% of the crazy would be gone from California.
How ’bout this? Ship all libs to the strip of land 10 miles inland from any navigable-by-big-ship waterway on the Pacific Coast (including Hawaii and Alaska), while keeping the rest as Awesome America. They would still be able to have an economy (even Awesome America has to import cheap Chinese crap) to ruin and prove their economic model is stupid, while not spoiling the rest of the country and wasting its natural resources.
The “Being able to move between the two” won’t work. You forget, liberals act like a cancer. After they raise the cost of everything, virtually ruining a particular area, many move to new areas for a lower cost of living, and then begin voting in the same taxes and price hikes, until they’ve ruined another area. Example: on the West coast, they were restricted to the LA basin and San Fansico Bay Area in the 70’s (with another small pocket in Seattle). Over the following 40 years, they have infected all of Western Washington and Northwestern Oregon (turning Portland into “Moscow on the Columbia”), and are currently overrunning Nevada (once a proud military state).
Easy solution to the split: another war and this time, enact the draft. All the younger liberals will self-relocate to the most loony areas of Canada, a-la the Vietnam era. Begin carpet bombing said areas of Canada…problem solved. For the older moonbats…well…the tin foil hat crowd have been talking about FEMA concentration camps…let’s put our tax dollars to good use.
Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, New Jersey, Maryland and New York all produced men who were crucial to the founding of this country. Many of them sacrificed everything. I am an optimist. I believe the history of those states is something we can work with (This applies to the rest of the country as well). I think we owe it to our ancestors to not give up. Even the blind can be made to see.
I may just be biased because on my way from PA to Maine I have seen some farm country and I love farm country.
I don’t care about the rest of the state, but I insist that San Diego county be part of Free America for the following reasons
1) We shouldn’t let the libs keep the best weather in the US
2) We need a Pacific port, in case the Chinese get uppity and want their money instead of useless US government bonds
3) All the sailors and Marines here wouldn’t want to be part of Sissy America anyway
4) Most importantly, I live here
This may require a hostile takeover of Imperial County, but almost no one lives there anyway, and we’ve got it surrounded.
We already have ‘Two Americas’; and the civil war is on-going.
If we have another civil war think about how the re-enactments will go in 150ish years –
Free America – storms the battle field and kicks major arse
Sissy America – stands there and cries and as they realize they are about to get overrun, shout “RACISTS!” as a group and then surrrender.
Then, after the battles, the Sissy Americans attempt to take the Free Americans to court for offending them in some way, and the Free Americans shoot them… for funsies.
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I don’t know Frank. I’m not crazy about protecting Sissy America. We all know that all those girly girls will do when someone attacks them is sit around crying and wetting themselves. Why should we protect them when they’re not willing to protect themselves. I say make the coasts a no-man’s land except for port cities and send the whiny liberal babies back to Europe or where ever they came from and let the rest of us live according to the Constitution and the Ten Commandments.
Why yes, since you asked I did take my meds today but they don’t seem to be doing much good. If this computer doesn’t stop acting up or AT&T (other wise known as the spawn of Satan or Lucifer’s son of an female dog) doesn’t stop kicking me out, something really bad is going to happen.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
How about we just create “Sissy Reservations” in every state? If you want Food Stamps, Social Security for you and your parents, Medicaid for your kids, Medicare for the old ones, Welfare, government housing, free health care, disability payments, zero interest government loans or bailouts, etc., you have to permanently reside on the Sissy Reservation. Once there, you may never leave. I’d be happy to pay for it. The logistics are easy and inexpensive: public feeding troughs loaded with liquified insects and gruel (the food stamps), a visit from a medicine or witch doctor once a year (the Medicaid and Medicare), free blankets made from burlap (Welfare), some old fashioned bus tokens (Social Security), a back/flea scratcher (disability), a cardboard box (government housing) a bucket for bailing or general sanitation (a bailout)…. etc. etc.
Sissy Reservations… Like the Indians, just think of the wonderful “c u l t u r e.”
Frank,
Loosely speaking, what you describe is called federalism. The libs couldn’t stand it so they’ve been using the 14th amendment to try to get rid of it for years. We’re just going to have to beat them politically.
Tie it to the Social Security Number. Liberal policies will apply to those who register themselves as Liberals. Ditto for Conservatives. Force the Independents off the fence. If you feel that you should be taxed and regulated into oblivion then you can take that route but will not have the opportunity to place the same burden on anyone else. You should be able to log onto the IRS website and change your status once a year. How many Liberals would then stick to their guns?
btw
these little avatars are pretty funny. mine is especially handsome.