So, knowing what we know now, what was the message of the 2008 election? Liberals thought it was some great liberal realignment, but they’re stupid; they think lots of things that aren’t true. Even then I noticed that Obama had to promise tax cuts to the middle class and didn’t dare bring up gun control. What happened was people were tired of Bush and the Republicans wanted someone different. Obama was different so they elected him. Then Obama started trying to enact liberal policies and now everyone hates him because America hates — absolutely hates and despises — liberalism. America loves freedom and liberalism is anathema to it.
So here’s the problem: Every once in a while people are going to get tired of Republicans and need to vote for someone else to teach the Republicans a lesson. This is just inevitable if they’re in power for too long. And even though America obviously hates them, the only other choice is Democrats.
Now what if in 2008 there was another party to vote for and teach the fat cat Republicans a lesson? Like what if there was a Libertarian Party — not just one full of crazies. They’d be like, “The Republicans are a bunch of fat cats ruining the country with special interests. Elect us and we’ll cut everything back!” Then America could vote for them to teach the GOP a lesson without getting a big dose of liberalism no one wants. And then when the Libertarian are being stupid and unrealistic, it’s back to the Republicans. That’s where the debate should be in America; the fact is the Democratic is stupid and anachronistic. We’ve long decided we absolutely despise socialism and big government, so why do we even have the Democrats around? Because they’re just there and always have been for so long, but they’re just too far left to be a real part of the debate anymore.
Now, it’s a two party system. So we have to replace the Democrats with a new party. I don’t know how you do that. A new party hasn’t taken over for like well over a hundred years. But it’s what we need to do to move forward. The debate in this country isn’t between capitalism and socialism. It’s about a few interventions versus none at all. And there are a few social issues in the mix. This would be perfectly represented by Republicans and Libertarians. Overall, that probably means the Republican Party will move more leftward, but the whole debate will be moved rightward where it’s supposed to be. Hmm… or possible the Democrats could move rightward and the Republicans become the libertarians. Anyway, we just need some sort of plan to get rid of the Democrats and replace them with another party. I’m not sure how that works, but whatever we did to get a Republican in Massachusetts, we should keep doing that.
I thought the Dems were supposed to be cast into the sun, via rocketship, to fend off Solar Warming.
Libertarian? Frank, you’re dangling perilously close to the Ron Paul ledge.
Step 1 is to never, ever nominate John McCain or any of his ilk again.
It seems that most Republicans advising against forming a third party have forgotten that the Republican Party itself was formed as a third party – formed because of the failure of the Whig party. And, oh yes, that new-fangled third party captured the Presidency four years later.
If the Republican party has failed, then what’s the big deal about kicking it aside to form something that actually works?
[As I explained, if you kick aside the Republicans, you still have the Democrats. We need to kick aside the Democrats. -Ed.]
Suggestions for new Political Parties: 1) The Party On Party (legalization of drugs, obviously)
2) The Non-Fat Cat Party (skim milk, cottage cheese, and sardines only)
3) The Tea Party (no need to give OlberDork reason to salivate)
4) The John The Baptist Party (Repent, Sinners!)
5) The Mayan Party (they only last ’til 2012)
A Choice that the American People Actually Want: The Bacon Cheeseburger Party (warning: may lead to becoming a Fat Cat)
I favor the elimination of the Democrat Party and (liberals in general).
How about the Tea Party, with strict adherence to small government, lower taxes, border security, and support for the military with occasional breaks for the Republicans?
The present Republican Party is too liberal, sloppy, greedy and free-spending for me, and I intend to vote them out along with the Dems in the next decade or so of elections. The Two-Party system remains, and we’ve eliminated the lunatic fringe once and for all!
A far better balance for the country, I think.
“We’ve secretly replaced your American political parties with Taster’s Choice coffee…lets see if diners notice (or care)”
Sarah Palin…the T. E. A. Party Prez! /salivate
The Palin/Thompson Party. Nuff said!
The Libertarians had so much hope, and wound up with so much dumb. I support a Punah-A-Hippie-In-The-Face Party. No hippies, no democrats..
Agree with your premise. Libertarianism would appeal to a lot of dumb voters because people love to say “I’m open minded, I agree with conservatives on taxes and budgets, but I agree with Democrats on civil rights and women’s rights and stuff”.
There are two problems to solve: (1) The libertarians either need to get some mainstream, non-crazy, people in their party OR ALTERNATIVELY subvert and take over the Democrat party; (2) the Libertarians need to stop calling themselves “true conservatives” or whatever and draping themselves in the symbolism of patriotism — to attract Democrats, they need to change their marketing to emphasize their common love of marijuana and abortions. I don’t know exactly how to do it, but I think what you need is to get a few very charismatic leaders with a real possibility of winning elections in a traditional party (like Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt) to give up the safe route and take a dumb chance with a new party.
My recommendation: Run some really popular, charismatic “blue dog” Democrat (Evan Bayh?) as a primary challenger against Obama in 2012. Lose the primary. Announce he’s going to start a new party that’s “socially liberal, economically conservative”. Recruit a few others to join his banner. Come in second in the general election, but win a handful of seats in the House. Get President Palin to invite the new party to work together on “bipartisan” legislation with the Republican caucus — shutting out the Democrats. Keep up the energy, recruit a cable news network and some talk radio hosts, and win a Presidential election eventually.
“The Federalist Party”
Then we would have 50 laboratories of democracy each largely insulated from each others experiments.
you are out of your ever-loving minds
This one votes for the Radical Whig Party:
http://radicalwhig.org/
^be warned, strong language in the above
“…whatever we did to get a Republican in Massachusetts, we should keep doing that.”
We let democrats speak into microphones and tell people what their twisted vision of America’ future is. Once people are actually listening to the hippies’ nonsense, you simultaneously educate them to what “conservatives” really stand for (as opposed to the MSNBC/CNN fictional version). The result is sweeping wins for conservatism every time.
The democrat party should be replaced by gitmo detainees. They hate America less and make this really great popping sound when you shoot them in the head.
What many people really want is – lots of free stuff.
Thats why the dems will continue to exist. They promise you free stuff and they promise that that the evil corporate fat cats are gonna have to pay the bill and you, my friend will be on easy street where you belong.
Thats the whole thing – basically people want a free cookie.
Thats why Barry wins a second term.
1: launch the liberals into the sun.
2:?????
3: A better America
The Democrats were still around when the Republicans kicked the Whigs aside and, as I wrote, took the Presidency four years later. If something doesn’t work, then it doesn’t work. That holds true for the Democrat party, too.
Why so fearful? Back in the ’80s I got mailers from the Republicans asking if we should contest Kennedy’s seat, or if the money would be better spent elsewhere? I saw no reason to run scared back then, and see no reason to do so now.
[Because all suggestions to replace the Republicans inevitably is about splitting the right-wing vote and giving liberals and easy run, which is a moron thing to do. We don’t need moron ideas right now; we need smart ones.
Actually, you might have provided a template on how to destroy the Democrat Party. Hmm… -Ed.]
I figure we’d need to transition slowly. Too many people will never vote GOP so we need to get rid of the Democrat party as step one and then get a new party.
First, we’d want a party people would vote for that’s kinda dangerous but not as dangerous as giving the reins of gov’t to Democrats.
I vote we call it, “The Monkeys With Guns” party.
Think of the ads, “Monkeys with guns. We’re still safer than Democrats”.
And they’d obviously be pro-2nd Amendment, so that starts off with a win.
Once the Democrat party is gone getting a good party instead of the Monkeys with Guns party would be much easier. People wouldn’t be third generation Monkeyss with Guns voters so they wouldn’t be so wedded to that party.
Moonbat former dems could vote for monkeys with guns while the centrist dems could vote for the GOP and the majority of America could vote for the new party.
A lot of people are registering as ‘Independent’.
Maybe the new party could be “None of the above”?
(‘Brewster’s Millions’ reference)
John Edwards could lead the new
Wig Party.