obama is a tale That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.
Its funny that you mention Rambo because in 1975 when the North Vietnamese took over South Vietnam Murray Rothbard (a Libertarian Icon) felt compelled to celebrate. And he did. He celebrated North Vietnam’s victories while Americans were getting killed. He also wrote some interesting Anti-American things at that time which where supportive of the NVA (North Vietnamese Army).
I’m serious Harvey. There is a Libertarian under every evil rock. I have no doubt that Rambo would hate Libertarians.
Sorry Harvey buts its true. I have been watching Libertarian anti-American activism for 40 years. Murray Rothbard did and said some horrible things. He’s certainly not alone when it comes to Libertarians uttering anti-American propaganda.
And I know this is a huge disappointment to a newly converted born again Libertarian such as yourself. Your savior is just as bad, in some cases worst, than all the Liberals combined.
You can find those Rothbard quotes if you want to. The question is do you want to find them.
No I’m not making anything up Harvey. Your just proving my point. You (and your kind) would turn a blind eye to every bit of kooky Libertarian propaganda ever uttered because its just too painful to accept that I am right about Libertarians. In many cases the Liberal-tarians are even worse than the Communist Left.
The facts are that Libertarians are the enemy of the Republican party and Obama is your punishment not mine.
@Carpenter, let me ask you an honest question: would you think it fair to judge all Christians based on the views of Heinrich Kramer, the inquisitor who wrote the Malleus Maleficarum?
Because if what you’re saying about this Rothbard chap (who I’m not sure I’ve even ever heard of before), then condemning all libertarians based on his views isn’t much different from condemning all Christians based on Heinrich Kramer’s.
“For thou are a douche”. Harvey I thank you for the snortle and guffaw I had over that line. I shall ponder it anon and the merriment shall be remember-ed.
@10 if you weren’t such a miserable waste of protoplasm, i’d be curious just how you became such a hateful individual. but you are and it is impossible to give a damn as to why you became what you are. you’re one of those people who only feels alive if you are making others miserable.
i’ve drained abscesses with more humanity than you demonstrate.
@ Carp THous idle immaterial skein of sleave milk,thou green sarsenet flap for a sore eye, thou tassel of a prodigal’s purse, thou, ah, how the poor world is pestered with such water-flies, diminutives of nature!
“I’m not blind uncle. I can see a church by daylight.” Beatrice to her uncle Hero’s father (I can’t remember his name and I’m too lazy and sick to google. Besides I’m not sure I’m ever going to use google again.)
@21 Yup a typo. …thou idle immaterial skein of sleave-silk, thou green sarcenet flap for a sore eye, thou tassel of a prodigal’s purse, thou? Ah, how the poor world is pestered with such waterflies, diminutives of nature!
Blind support of Libertarianism when you don’t even know the who’s and how’s of its Rise to power is very dangerous. Most of the key figures in Libertarianism’s past are some very bad, evil people. The Queen of Libertarianism, Ayn Rand said that she wanted to destroy Christianity.
I believe that many of the younger Libertarians (that have been brainwashed by the Paulbots) don’t even understand what they are supporting. They don’t realize that they are on the road to Hell. In many ways Libertarianism is just like radical Islam in that Libertarians propagandize teens and young adults. It really is a pagan, anti-Christian religious Cult based on lies and misinformation.
Will you really sell your soul to the Devil so Glenn Beck can have lower taxes?
You know Carpenter, if you wanted to lay out your actual reasons for opposing libertarianism, if you were to actually point at the ideas behind libertarianism and make arguments about why those ideas are bad, we might actually listen to you instead of what we are doing, which dismissing you as a nut job and treating you like a joke. We’d still probably make fun of you, but you’d actually have a chance, a small chance, at convincing us that libertarianism is wrong.
Harvey,
What did you think about the racist newsletters Ron Paul published?
Or did you just ignore those too? Or you don’t care.
You ignore the truth about the religion of Libertarianism the same way
a radicalized muslim ignores the truth. Other than strapping bombs to
people radical Islam has much in common with Libertarianism.
Libertarians and Muslims are both Anti-Israel.
Libertarians and Muslims are both Anti-Christian.
Libertarians and Muslims are both Anti-American.
Libertarians and Muslims both HATE Republicans.
And as Dean Ahmad, Ph.D. (a Libertarian Candidate for US Senate) wrote,
“…Free markets are part and parcel of Islamic law, and the Prophet condemned market intervention like price controls, protesting that he could not set one price when Allāh (glorified and exalted be He) had set another. Islamic law justifies intervention only to prevent the initiation of force (e.g. theft), fraud (e.g. deceptive weights or measures), and unfair advantage (e.g. riba). Although the Islamic way of life is, in many respects, socially conservative, that conservatism is not forcibly imposed on others. ..”
And now we have the muslim prophet ALLAH condemning market regulations and Neo-Conservativism according the a 2012 Libertarian Candidate for the US Senate.
and he starts right off with the Prophet Moohamud the Libertarian.
So would that be Islamo-tarianism. Or is he suggesting some kind of Sharia Libertarianism?
To suggest that Moohamud was interested in peoples freedom is insane unless by freedom
you mean chopping off heads. Moohamud controlled people at the point of a sword. They
sold slaves!
OK now I get it. Dean Ahmad the Libertarian Candidate for Maryland in 2012 is in favor of
Free Market Slavery.
He must have found a Good Sam Park with both a brown-water hookup and free wi-fi for his Winnebago. As it is Sunday, and one darest not toil upon one’s lathe, ol’ Kwai-Chang probably got amped up on Sanka and Westboro Baptist Beta-Max videos before taking to his cyber-pulpit and burning up the net with his raging impersonation of a political Billy Sunday.
Go ahead and change the subject but you can’t change the FACT that you guys ignore
Ron Paul’s Racist Newsletters and connections to biggoted racist anti-semetic organizations, Ayn Rand’s radical Anti-Christian remarks and a kooky anti-American Muslim who thinks that Islam is a perfect fit for Libertarianism.
This really is easier than shooting ducks in a bucket with a bazooka. Its impossible to miss!
The Fact You Guys Ignore was the first release, in March of ’79, on Midnight Records by The Made Up Malarkey Men.
It was such an undergound sensation back then that it inspired a young Tom Hanks, who was then starring on Bosom Buddies, to write a screenplay that later became That Thing You Do.
#35 – Harvey,
Yes, it’s true; Carpenter Can say More than one nice thing about Someone he apparently likes Very much!
IMAO, Feb 21, 2013 8:00am
The post: No, He Expects Us to Die
“Carpenter says:
February 21st, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Putin is a Christian and a capitalist. He attends church regularly and he promotes Christian legislation. He advocates Christian involvement in Politics and in the community. He does not believe in the ‘total’ Separation of Church and State. Putin has a very successful economy even during a worldwide recession.
Obama is a Muslim and a Communist. Obama is a Anti-Christian activist who promotes Sexual Perversion, drug abuse and dishonesty. Hussein Obama is a complete failure and he will followed by another Commie-Socialist Liberal President who will finish the job.
You do the math. The USA is going down the tubes and it can’t be saved. It’s too late. Putin knows that the USA is going down the BOLSHEVIK Road and that it is doomed. If I was younger I would probably move to Russia.”
no, carpie can’t say anything nice. his sole pleasure in life is from denigrating others and their beliefs. the feedback we give him is like a dose of amphetamines. he’s not a true sociopath as he does derive some sort of pleasure from these encounters. the twisted mass of snakes that lives in his head and makes up his reality is not a place a normal human would like to visit.
i’d feel sorry for him if he wasn’t such a revolting pus bag or if he made the slightest attempt to resist his demons. as it is, it’s just hard to give a damn.
but the god he claims to believe in will dump him in a lake of burning brimstone. kind of ironic actually. he’s pretty old testament, but Revelation will get him.
Carpenter — this should be your clue that these are not dyed-in-the-wool Libertarians that they should be like “who the ***** is Murray Rothbard?” However, I think he had a point about Vietnam. We spent tons of life and treasure for nothing, then the power of the Free Market brought prosperity and freedom to ‘nam the way our little foreign adventuring never could. It’s a pity we couldn’t elect Goldwater….
@41: LOL. I think you’ve made something wonderfully amusing out of Carpenter’s work. If we’re all lucky, we can get him to DEMONSTRATE that praxeology is the descendant of antinomianism rather than just claim it. I hope he uses big words like those too.
oh and Harvey. Just 1 more thing. I wouldn’t worry about the whole Church of Satan relationship with Libertarianism thing. Obviously the Devil thinks you guys are too incompetent to lead a country too.
But there is good news! There is that period after the Rapture when most the Christians will be gone. You guys will have winning then.
I do not bite my thumb at YOU, YGDFT; I bite my thumb at THEE.
obama is a tale That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.
works for carpie, too
Commence Quoting Shakespeare Bacon to FredKey!
http://tinyurl.com/YGDFTYLTATSOTE
Its funny that you mention Rambo because in 1975 when the North Vietnamese took over South Vietnam Murray Rothbard (a Libertarian Icon) felt compelled to celebrate. And he did. He celebrated North Vietnam’s victories while Americans were getting killed. He also wrote some interesting Anti-American things at that time which where supportive of the NVA (North Vietnamese Army).
I’m serious Harvey. There is a Libertarian under every evil rock. I have no doubt that Rambo would hate Libertarians.
@4 – Citation, please, you conspiracy-enamored crackpot?
Sorry Harvey buts its true. I have been watching Libertarian anti-American activism for 40 years. Murray Rothbard did and said some horrible things. He’s certainly not alone when it comes to Libertarians uttering anti-American propaganda.
And I know this is a huge disappointment to a newly converted born again Libertarian such as yourself. Your savior is just as bad, in some cases worst, than all the Liberals combined.
You can find those Rothbard quotes if you want to. The question is do you want to find them.
@6 – Got it. You’re just making all this up as you go along.
@6 see @2
Harvey’s born again! Halleluiah!
BTW, you can’t get to Caprtenter. He’s seen The Libertarian.
No I’m not making anything up Harvey. Your just proving my point. You (and your kind) would turn a blind eye to every bit of kooky Libertarian propaganda ever uttered because its just too painful to accept that I am right about Libertarians. In many cases the Liberal-tarians are even worse than the Communist Left.
The facts are that Libertarians are the enemy of the Republican party and Obama is your punishment not mine.
@Carpenter, let me ask you an honest question: would you think it fair to judge all Christians based on the views of Heinrich Kramer, the inquisitor who wrote the Malleus Maleficarum?
Because if what you’re saying about this Rothbard chap (who I’m not sure I’ve even ever heard of before), then condemning all libertarians based on his views isn’t much different from condemning all Christians based on Heinrich Kramer’s.
* “is true” I forgot to add “is true” after “chap”.
“For thou are a douche”. Harvey I thank you for the snortle and guffaw I had over that line. I shall ponder it anon and the merriment shall be remember-ed.
@11 – How about just one single reference link, Made-Up Malarky Man?
@13 – ‘Twere not me. ‘Twere Max up who with that came.
@10 if you weren’t such a miserable waste of protoplasm, i’d be curious just how you became such a hateful individual. but you are and it is impossible to give a damn as to why you became what you are. you’re one of those people who only feels alive if you are making others miserable.
i’ve drained abscesses with more humanity than you demonstrate.
@4 If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction [Twelfth Night 3.4 128-29]
@ Carp THous idle immaterial skein of sleave milk,thou green sarsenet flap for a sore eye, thou tassel of a prodigal’s purse, thou, ah, how the poor world is pestered with such water-flies, diminutives of nature!
Well Harvey, since you’ve inexplicably asked *me* for a reference link, I think I found something dealing with what Carpenter is talking about: http://tomgpalmer.com/2005/04/05/apologetics-for-death-of-a-state/
As far as I can tell, Rothbard was more an anarchist than a libertarian, and the two are far from the same thing.
@19 – Sorry, that was a typo – should’ve been @10.
Sane people who aren’t spouting bizarre, esoteric conspiracy theories don’t have to show their work.
Apology Bacon to you, AR.
@18 walruskkkch
“…skein of sleave silk…” i believe.
“I’m not blind uncle. I can see a church by daylight.” Beatrice to her uncle Hero’s father (I can’t remember his name and I’m too lazy and sick to google. Besides I’m not sure I’m ever going to use google again.)
@21 Yup a typo. …thou idle immaterial skein of sleave-silk, thou green sarcenet flap for a sore eye, thou tassel of a prodigal’s purse, thou? Ah, how the poor world is pestered with such waterflies, diminutives of nature!
Blind support of Libertarianism when you don’t even know the who’s and how’s of its Rise to power is very dangerous. Most of the key figures in Libertarianism’s past are some very bad, evil people. The Queen of Libertarianism, Ayn Rand said that she wanted to destroy Christianity.
I believe that many of the younger Libertarians (that have been brainwashed by the Paulbots) don’t even understand what they are supporting. They don’t realize that they are on the road to Hell. In many ways Libertarianism is just like radical Islam in that Libertarians propagandize teens and young adults. It really is a pagan, anti-Christian religious Cult based on lies and misinformation.
Will you really sell your soul to the Devil so Glenn Beck can have lower taxes?
Render unto Caesar’s what is Caesar’s and what is God’s to God. And Caesar don’t need that much.
You know Carpenter, if you wanted to lay out your actual reasons for opposing libertarianism, if you were to actually point at the ideas behind libertarianism and make arguments about why those ideas are bad, we might actually listen to you instead of what we are doing, which dismissing you as a nut job and treating you like a joke. We’d still probably make fun of you, but you’d actually have a chance, a small chance, at convincing us that libertarianism is wrong.
Harvey,
What did you think about the racist newsletters Ron Paul published?
Or did you just ignore those too? Or you don’t care.
You ignore the truth about the religion of Libertarianism the same way
a radicalized muslim ignores the truth. Other than strapping bombs to
people radical Islam has much in common with Libertarianism.
Libertarians and Muslims are both Anti-Israel.
Libertarians and Muslims are both Anti-Christian.
Libertarians and Muslims are both Anti-American.
Libertarians and Muslims both HATE Republicans.
And as Dean Ahmad, Ph.D. (a Libertarian Candidate for US Senate) wrote,
“…Free markets are part and parcel of Islamic law, and the Prophet condemned market intervention like price controls, protesting that he could not set one price when Allāh (glorified and exalted be He) had set another. Islamic law justifies intervention only to prevent the initiation of force (e.g. theft), fraud (e.g. deceptive weights or measures), and unfair advantage (e.g. riba). Although the Islamic way of life is, in many respects, socially conservative, that conservatism is not forcibly imposed on others. ..”
And now we have the muslim prophet ALLAH condemning market regulations and Neo-Conservativism according the a 2012 Libertarian Candidate for the US Senate.
@27 *sigh*
reference link, please?
Harvey
search Google for
Dean Ahmad+Islam+Libertarianism
and you find VIDEOS
of Dean Ahmad the Libertarian Candidate for Maryland in 2012
talking about Islam, the Prophet Moohamud and Libertarianism
He also wrote and posted articles on the same.
This is like shooting ducks in a bucket with a bazooka. Its impossible to miss
Ok… but do you have one link in particular to start with?
http://blip.tv/jeff-proctor/imad-ad-dean-ahmad-islam-and-the-free-market-3633955
and he starts right off with the Prophet Moohamud the Libertarian.
So would that be Islamo-tarianism. Or is he suggesting some kind of Sharia Libertarianism?
To suggest that Moohamud was interested in peoples freedom is insane unless by freedom
you mean chopping off heads. Moohamud controlled people at the point of a sword. They
sold slaves!
OK now I get it. Dean Ahmad the Libertarian Candidate for Maryland in 2012 is in favor of
Free Market Slavery.
Kwai-Chang Carpenter was busy this morning.
He must have found a Good Sam Park with both a brown-water hookup and free wi-fi for his Winnebago. As it is Sunday, and one darest not toil upon one’s lathe, ol’ Kwai-Chang probably got amped up on Sanka and Westboro Baptist Beta-Max videos before taking to his cyber-pulpit and burning up the net with his raging impersonation of a political Billy Sunday.
Could be worse…he could’ve done this via Skype.
Wasn’t The Made Up Malarkey Men U2’s original name when they were first gigging around Dublin in the late 70s?
Go ahead and change the subject but you can’t change
the FACT that you guys ignore
Ron Paul’s Racist Newsletters and connections to biggoted racist anti-semetic organizations, Ayn Rand’s radical Anti-Christian remarks and a kooky anti-American Muslim who thinks that Islam is a perfect fit for Libertarianism.
This really is easier than shooting ducks in a bucket with a bazooka. Its impossible to miss!
@34 – Can you say just one nice thing about something you like?
The Fact You Guys Ignore was the first release, in March of ’79, on Midnight Records by The Made Up Malarkey Men.
It was such an undergound sensation back then that it inspired a young Tom Hanks, who was then starring on Bosom Buddies, to write a screenplay that later became That Thing You Do.
#35 – Harvey,
Yes, it’s true; Carpenter Can say More than one nice thing about Someone he apparently likes Very much!
IMAO, Feb 21, 2013 8:00am
The post: No, He Expects Us to Die
“Carpenter says:
February 21st, 2013 at 1:18 pm
Putin is a Christian and a capitalist. He attends church regularly and he promotes Christian legislation. He advocates Christian involvement in Politics and in the community. He does not believe in the ‘total’ Separation of Church and State. Putin has a very successful economy even during a worldwide recession.
Obama is a Muslim and a Communist. Obama is a Anti-Christian activist who promotes Sexual Perversion, drug abuse and dishonesty. Hussein Obama is a complete failure and he will followed by another Commie-Socialist Liberal President who will finish the job.
You do the math. The USA is going down the tubes and it can’t be saved. It’s too late. Putin knows that the USA is going down the BOLSHEVIK Road and that it is doomed. If I was younger I would probably move to Russia.”
Glad I could be of help!
@35 harvey,
no, carpie can’t say anything nice. his sole pleasure in life is from denigrating others and their beliefs. the feedback we give him is like a dose of amphetamines. he’s not a true sociopath as he does derive some sort of pleasure from these encounters. the twisted mass of snakes that lives in his head and makes up his reality is not a place a normal human would like to visit.
i’d feel sorry for him if he wasn’t such a revolting pus bag or if he made the slightest attempt to resist his demons. as it is, it’s just hard to give a damn.
but the god he claims to believe in will dump him in a lake of burning brimstone. kind of ironic actually. he’s pretty old testament, but Revelation will get him.
NAACP
Wow I go away for the weekend and miss the fun…
Carpenter — this should be your clue that these are not dyed-in-the-wool Libertarians that they should be like “who the ***** is Murray Rothbard?” However, I think he had a point about Vietnam. We spent tons of life and treasure for nothing, then the power of the Free Market brought prosperity and freedom to ‘nam the way our little foreign adventuring never could. It’s a pity we couldn’t elect Goldwater….
well this has been fun, entertaining and very informative. Exposing Libertarians is easier than shooting ducks in a bucket.
But its way too easy. I mean there is no challenge in exposing their past, their propaganda and their partners. I’m sorry but this is getting boring
@40 – “getting”?
Carpie, you’ve bored me silly with your asinine blatherings from day 1.
By all means, PLEASE go be bored somewhere else.
@41: LOL. I think you’ve made something wonderfully amusing out of Carpenter’s work. If we’re all lucky, we can get him to DEMONSTRATE that praxeology is the descendant of antinomianism rather than just claim it. I hope he uses big words like those too.
oh and Harvey. Just 1 more thing. I wouldn’t worry about the whole Church of Satan relationship with Libertarianism thing. Obviously the Devil thinks you guys are too incompetent to lead a country too.
But there is good news! There is that period after the Rapture when most the Christians will be gone. You guys will have winning then.
Putin and Carpenter, sitting in a tree…