Open Thread: Ferguson

I don’t want to joke about it yet, because it’s ongoing and a lot of bad things are going to happen before it’s over, but if you’ve got some stuff you want to get off your chest, we can talk about it like grownups in the comments…

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  1. Having not listened to the speech I can only go on what others have observed and what was observed demonstrates that Obama is not now, nor has ever been, worthy of the Office he now holds.No statement of support was not followed by a conditional that negated any demonstration that we are in fact a Nation of laws. As this is not inconsistent with various other actions by Obama one cannot act surprised. The only true surprise is that even people who know and understand somehow are still disappointed that he could not rise to the occasion and act the President of the entire country and not just instigator of an electoral base. The disaster that looms for this country over the next two years cannot be understated and we have better hope that the people we have chose to oppose this loose cannon are up for the challenge and are willing to take stands not based upon public opinion polls but on a just and proper defense of the basic values and the foundational principles which have made this a great country.

  2. Once again, we have people “protesting” being treated like uncivilized animals by acting like uncivilized animals x10. Good plan!
    Do all these people think if a 6’4 300 lb white kid did the same thing, he wouldn’t have been shot?
    A: yes they do
    B: there would be no riots by white people anyone if he was.

    I’m waiting to hear from anyone what the cop was “supposed to do” since they claim what he did do was “murder”. Once the kid tackled him, took his gun and shot him, would they then “protest” him being arrested for murder?
    Probably

  3. They spent weeks trying to make peace with community leaders and protesters to avoid this situTion, but that is exactly why they are in this situation. Just like last time the protesters are off camera peacefully addressing their grivences. The real trouble makers have come from out of town hoping to take advantage of the disorder to vandalize and steal, and they were going to come no matter what the verdict was. The police misdirected their attention to the protesters when the real culprits probably don’t care at all about the verdict. Proof? Most of the people arrested in the last protest were from out of state.

  4. Thanks, Harvey, I needed that. BTW, I was equally incensed at all the images of the cops in Ferguson lined up with their automatic weapons pointed at the ordinary black citizens of Ferguson who were staging a misguided protest back in August.

    Both sides are wrong. And if a word fits one side, it probably fits the other, too.

  5. I was watching a live feed on youtube after I got tired of the “news” outlets repeating themselves. My sister is a district manager for a retail chain in the St Louis area. She had one store looted and one was burned. I believe that most of the lawlessness was perpetrated by people not from that area as it was in August. Sad that local business owners that had nothing to do with this tragic situation are having their livelihood destroyed.

    “Because some men aren’t looking for anything logical, like money. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” ~Alfred Pennyworth

  6. If you reach into a police car and try to take a weapon from a law enforcement officer, things are probably not going to end well for anybody.

    The tragedy is that the many shop owners in the area, having had enough, will choose to reopen elsewhere or just decide to close up permanently. The shops that remain will be those who are comfortable charging predatory prices to a community with few options to shop elsewhere, and most of the citizens so affected were not the ones rioting.

  7. There is a gradual awakening going on. Snoozing America snorts, farts, grunts, goes “Huh?” and finally cracks open one crusty eye. Who’s the villain in this decades long vaudevillian incitement to race war? What one common factor contributed and prolonged the riots, looting, arson, assaults, reckless discharge of firearms, and murder? Come on guys, anyone? anyone? I’ll give you a hint: do you see the glowing box full of lies? Now, think carefully….

  8. Whenever something like this happens it’s like people lie to themselves and each other what is really going on. There’s the public fiction, which everybody but the incredibly stupid knows is fiction, and then there’s the widely known but unacknowledged reality. It’s pointless anymore to watch the news or listen to politicians about stuff like this because they’re all lying, and everybody knows it. It’s so surreal it feels like we’re living in some Kafka story or something.

  9. @17 Anonymiss: My quick version would be:

    Media converges on a nest of fire ants. Interviews anyone they can find as to why fire ants are aggressive. Occasionally pokes nest of fire ants with a stick. Some reporters get attacked by fire ants in the process.

  10. @ Anonymiss…. “Could someone give me the Cliff’s notes version?”

    Talking heads on television said some stuff. People lined up over here and some over there. There was some chanting of slogans by some people, throwing of rocks by other people. Someone lit something on fire. Some other people lit other stuff on fire. Windows were broken. Shots were fired. There was some screaming and some shouting, some shoving and pushing too.

    That was more of the highlight reel than the Cliff Notes version, it should at least set the proper mood for you.

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