Random Thoughts: The Gun Debate and Angry Screeching

“We traced the harassing tweets and they’re COMING FROM THE SAME IP ADDRESS AS YOURS!”
“What’s an ip address?”
“It’s the address of data packets. He’s on the same router as you.”
“What’s a router?”
“It’s the gateway to… I’m just trying to say you’re about to get stabbed.”

“We traced it and the CALLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE! …Oh wait, we traced this call. Of course you’re calling from your house. Are you still there?”

Since the gun right people have been steadily winning the debate for decades, maybe the gun control advocates should spend more time analyzing why their arguments are ineffective rather than trying to shout them louder and angrier.
And if you’re really serious, I’d stop pointlessly yelling about the NRA and instead address the millions who believe gun rights are extremely important—the real reason gun control has been a losing issue for so long.
And obviously those people have very good arguments you can’t just shout down as, I remind you, they’ve been winning the debate for decades.

As for the gun debate, great minds discuss the larger principle of rights, average minds discuss gun violence statistics, and small minds discuss the NRA.

All the reviews for Black Panther are saying that the protagonist, T’Challa, is a thinly veiled stand in for Trump while the villain, Killmonger, is obviously meant to be Bernie Sanders. Is this true? I don’t like my comic book movies to be all political.
I just want masked people punching whomever they deem to be “bad guys” without any government getting involved.

Everyone is saying Black Panther is a Marvel movie that actually has a compelling villain. Occam’s Razor is that all these people have been paid off by Disney.
The Marvel movie villain archetype is a wooden post that wants to blow up the world.

I’m always colluding with Russia. Is that frowned upon?

’m always getting Allison Brie and Brie Larson confused. Like I was surprised they got the goofy star from Community to be the lead in a Marvel movie and also surprised Netflix got an Oscar winner for their women wrestling show.

The NRA exists because people believe strongly in gun rights, not the other way around. Politicians get money from the NRA because they support gun rights, not the other way around. Focusing on the NRA shows you don’t understand the issue.
The NRA and its money could disappear tomorrow and building a libertarian utopia on the moon would still be more plausible than repealing the 2nd Amendment.
What are Elon Musk’s plans for that?

People talking about banning guns in the US are the flat-earthers of politics.

I’ll only believe the Russians threw the election to Trump is someone can produce evidence they bribed the Democrats into nominating Hillary.

In a country of hundreds of millions of guns in private hands, any law aimed at keeping a criminal from obtaining a gun is largely symbolic.
I think any common sense gun control needs to start with acknowledging that anyone who wants a gun is most likely going to be successful in getting one. So now what?
One gun control known to be successful are harsh punishments for using a gun in a crime. Of course, this would mean nothing to a mass shooter.
I’m not sure what would help stop a mass shooter other than some sort of security measure. All other gun control I’ve heard mentioned are all in the order of pass some law and hope someone bad doesn’t get a gun—wishful thinking similar to the mocked “thoughts and prayers.”
Really, are the people mocking “thoughts and prayers” also mocking “gun free zones”? How is one more effective than the other?

It’s very freeing to feel no need to defend Trump nor join in idiotic attacks on him.

If you want to get rid of all the guns, you’re going to need a lot of guns.

The smart move for American curling would be to bring MC Hammer with them to the Olympics so he could shout out, “Stop! Hammer time!” just before they launch the last stone of the end.

I don’t even believe there is a Russia. They’re just something Reagan had Hollywood make up to scare people into reelecting him. And it worked on everyone except Minnesota.
What is your evidence there’s a Russia? Sarah Palin once saw it? She’s not a reliable source.

What if one day we discover Trump has never heard of Twitter and it’s been Russia tweeting as him this whole time?

I meddled in the election with my brilliant tweets. It didn’t work. A bunch of people still voted for Hillary or Trump.

Since Wonder Woman and Black Panther both made a gazillion dollars hopefully Hollywood will learn something from that but prolly not.
“But think of how much more money Black Panther would make if T’Challa were played by Tom Hanks.”

I’ll only entertain disarming the citizenry after the government has been disarmed.

I haven’t taken CPAC seriously since they took Trump seriously as a conservative. That guy was an obnoxious clown.
Having a coherent ideology isn’t very popular with the right or the left right now. Maybe I’m the one that’s out of touch.

Okay, let’s say you banned new sales of the AR-15. What do you do when someone intending to commit mass murder gets one anyway (as there are already a ton out there) or some other firearm (which, in a nation of hundreds of millions of guns, is trivial)?
Something I’m legitimately curious about (and don’t know the answer to): What’s the chance the average AR-15 will be used to kill someone versus the chance the average car will kill someone (to give it a reference point)?
Big scary news items about terrorism or mass shooting often make it hard to make a risk assessment. It would be nice to have some numbers.

I hate to break it to you, but Mitt Romney, much like other politicians, is a politician.

If Trump tried to endorse me, I’d say, “Shut up, you stupid clown. No one likes you.” And then Trump would come back with an angry tweet, but I’d know it was actually to cover his sadness. And then I’d die a little inside because I hurt a fellow human being.

I’m going to hold my own CPAC with only me, the one true conservative, invited. It’s going to be a long speech on Bastiat’s The Law followed by Mario Kart.

The reaction to Brook’s column by gun control people is informative. “We’ve been angrily screaming at gun rights people for decades and completely losing the debate AND HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST WE STOP!!!”
For so many issues, the choice is between making progress and righteous angry screaming, and righteous angry screaming is by far the winner.

It might be informative to not just poll people on whether they support certain gun control measures but also whether they think they’ll have a significant effect on gun violence.

It would be nice if people wanted to stop mass shooting more than they wanted to angrily screech at each other.

Over about a fifty year span, support for the banning of handguns went from a majority opinion to a fringe opinion. Does everyone understand why that happened?
A lot of people seem to have it in their heads that if they got rid of the NRA, they could turn everything around. But this is a long time lost debate and no one has any new arguments.

What if they invent an AR-16?

I remember people claiming that all the grieving families from the Newtown shooting were actors, i.e., the government had some massive conspiracy involving hundreds of actors so they could not quite pass a fairly pointless background check law. I did not find that plausible.
The problem with conspiracies is everyone is just so so dumb when politics are involved. No rational thought. Lots of angry screeching. I don’t see anyone on the far right or left plotting anything. They can barely tweet coherently.

I remember back when they had the assault weapon ban and a pre-ban AR-15s were so expensive only the richest gun nuts could afford them. One of the central tenets of gun control has always been you don’t have to worry about rich people having guns.
Oh yeah, and they had that high-capacity magazine ban so it cost like a hundred bucks to get a regular 17rd magazine for a Glock 17. I guess the idea was they were hoping mass shooters would be budget conscious.
Gun nuts are pretty harmless, though. That’s why everyone feels comfortable screaming bloody murder at them because they know they won’t do anything.
Except politicians. Politicians are scared of them. Because they vote.
I always found that a unique American peculiarity: There’s a group of people in this country known for having lots of guns but they’re only feared at the ballot box.

Gun control people seem to be operating under the delusion they’re winning the argument, but history shows the opposite. If they really want to be a part of the solution, they have to swallow their pride and treat people who disagree with them like fellow human beings.
The reaction to the Brooks column was legit disturbing. Gun control people seem to think this is a war and they can just defeat and eradicate who opposes them. If it really is a war, they’re losing and are the ones who can be ignored.
But that’s not how this country is supposed to work.

Proverbs 18:2
“A fool has no delight in understanding,
But in expressing his own heart.”

It’s tough work being the only reasonable person left, but do you know who I do it for? For me, the only person who deserves it.

10 Comments

    • Don’t forget:
      The Waco shoot out was about weapon confiscation by the government. Four ATF agents died.

      Ruby Ridge was about an arrest for a weapons violation. One Marshal died.

      And the Lexington/Concord “dust-up” was about weapon confiscation by the government. Seventy-three government employees dead and fifty-three missing.

      The first assault weapons ban was at Concord/Lexington. It didn’t work either.

      The Lexington/Concord “dust-up” was about weapon confiscation and it was the government going after state-of-the-art cannon which the people possessed. Not muskets. The 13 states had more in mind than muskets when they passed the second amendment.

  1. I didn’t see this before I posted elsewhere so I repeat myself. Possibly 650 million guns in private citizens hands in the USA. The only gun free society a liberal may dream of will only come about by becoming an Ex-Society.

  2. I’ll only believe the Russians threw the election to Trump is someone can produce evidence they bribed the Democrats into nominating Hillary..

    I take it all those “contributions” to the Clinton Foundation don’t count?

    • Those contributions don’t count at all. That money went straight into the coffers of the Clinton Foundation to enable the Clintons to do philanthropic work in places like Haiti and Africa. The Democrat Party didn’t get a penny of it. Of course…neither did the Haitians or Africans.

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