I have an idea for a compromise with Mexico over the illegal immigration situation. If Mexico agrees to crack down on everyone trying to illegally cross the U.S./Mexico border, we’ll give them California. Of course, they have to assume any debt that goes with, but other than that it’s all theirs. The agreement to crack down on illegal immigration will also go for all the people who were formerly California, though, because frankly all the states around California are tired of Californians moving into them.
One way Mexico could help fight illegal immigration is to not publicize that California is now part of Mexico. That way Mexicans would still try to illegally immigrate there not realizing they’re still in Mexico. Ha! Jokes on you, wily Mexican!
They have to take all the debt AND all the Hollywood liberals too. Then we built a fence to keep Alec Baldwin et al from sneaking into America.
[As long as he keeps making 30 Rock. -Ed.]
NM is becoming the new Hollywood. Can I offer it to them as well? They’re all already here anyway…
As long as we can also build a fence around most of Silicon Valley (making sure the liberal morons at Google are on the Mexican side), I’m all for it. Oh, wait…then they’ll just try to come over *that* fence. So we need a better plan. Maybe we re-locate Silicon Valley to someplace a bit more American, first.
I thought we gave California to Mexico years ago. It looked that way the last time I drove through.
If this happens, can we tell all the illegals here in Texas that it’s actually apart of Mexico now so they’ll head to California to get to the real America?
Well Frank, I have to say that I had an immediate, knee-jerk, right wing reactionary response to your idea, and it was positive.
After further consideration though, I must strongly object. As @#%&! corrupt and cursed as Mexico is, it wouldn’t take long for the Mexicans to turn California into another useless, third world crap hole (with good beaches). Then what?
Their macho culture is bankrupt. Do we really need more of that here?
Perhaps the biggest pause for concern would be their ability to launch incursions into Nevada and Oregon to a much greater degree. Doing so is like giving the Paleostinians territory in Israel.
We need to open factories and Wal-marts on the Mexico/Guatemalan border and suck the illegals away from us.
Anyway to also move PA and Maine to border California and let the Mexicans have those to worthless states also? They can get three nitwit Republican Senators as part of the bargain!
If we give them kommiefornimexistan, They will just look to us for a bailout. But, because they are lazy and like steal everything, if we just leave, they will think that we just forgot to guard it and we can be rid of a bunch of hippies and let the mexicans think they got a way with something. Then when they are stealing commexico, wecan sneak in and aquire the oil. bwhahahaha.
I can’t imagine that the same people who are smart enough to have no welfare programs of their own and who are also smart enough to send all their excess poor people north to the United States….would be stupid enough to want to take possession of a broke and dysfunctional piece of semi-communist crap like the State of California. A state which currently contains thousands and thousands of the very same poor people they just shed themselves of. Therefore I don’t believe your plan is viable and as much as I’d like to see it succeed I doubt if it will. Besides….if they really want California all they have to do is just sit back and wait around for ten or so years and they’ll own it by default.
Sorry Frank, we need to rethink that. It would have been a great idea last year, but this year, because we are taking on so much more debt, we need not only Californians but as many illegals as we can get. That way, when those calculators decide how much of the debt belongs to you and me, the number will be lower.
Of course our grandchildren will probably still have to pay the same amount since many of these people don’t actually pay taxes, but it will psychologically help them.
brillant. Except for one thing, my relatives in Washington State want all Californian immigrants returned to their home state (now part of Mexico) do they can reapply for admission to the US. Which of course will be denied. This will empty much of Seattle and most of Microsoft’s headquarters, but should put the state back in the Red column.
BUT BUT BUT As an American stuck in California, what am I to do???
We need to unite! Stop this madness of not standing up for your country. Support the movement:
stopillegals.web.officelive.com
Now lets not be too hasty here. Just because the coast is nutty doesnt mean that all of us Californians are smelly, dirty, leftists. Now I know this is a prime opportunity to get rid of Stockton and Fresno but I really feel the cost is just too high. What if instead we somehow transplant Hollywood, San Fransisco, Santa Barbara, and all surrounding areas to somewhere already kinda crappy (like Arizona) and then give away the crappy state?
#12 – Aaron Horrecks,
We could send you a squad of Marines and declare your house a U.S. Embassy, Ambassador.
Well that’ll work. I already joined the Marines, and I have all the weapons and ammo that a Marine could want!
I don’t pretend to have the answer to the problem of illegal immigration — unless it is that the wealthy growers begin paying high enough wages and improve the horrendous working conditions under which the illegals are forced to work. I think I DO know what will NOT work, however. There is a long history of building walls to keep out peoples who are seen as “undesirable.” The Chinese built the Great Wall to keep the invading Mongols out. It didn’t. The Romans built Hadrian’s Wall to keep the Picts and Scots out of Roman Britain. It didn’t. The Soviets built the Berlin Wall to prevent East Berliners from “escaping” to West Berlin. It didn’t. The Israeli wall around the West Bank is not solving the problem for which it was intended. Walls are attempts to solve complex problems by oversimplifying them. Building walls is a simple-minded solution to a very complicated problem and in the long-run they won’t succeed in solving the problem for which they are built.
What happened to the Mexi-Cannon?
Will someone please define “Comprehensive Immigration Reform.”
$400,000,000 in welfare payments to illegal immigrants JUST in L.A. county!!! Isn’t that special?! Synchronize your watches, light your torches and gather up your pitchforks…the revolution is about to begin.
Apparently Comprehensive Immigration Reform is letting Mexico take over the use in exchange for them all voting Democrat so we can continue to have idiots and traitors like Nancy, Harry and Obama. Seriously, there is literally no other country in the world that could possibile be more willing to literally give their country away than the US. You all can joke about California all you want but I was born there, raised my children there, had my daughter go from a straight A student to quitting school and joining a Mexican gang, struggled to own a home and ultimately my own business. My property value is nilch, my neighborhood is not recognizable and I struggle to interface with customers because they refuse to speak English. It’s reallly not very funny. I’ve got an idea, lets give them Chicago. It’s the dirty politics that got Obama into the Presidency and he’s the one that held out his hand and put another nail in the soverency coffin of the US. Yeah, lets give them Acorn, and Chicago. Leave California alone. The only thing we are guilty of is being easy access.
Comprehensive Immigration Reform is giving our country to another country for who knows what in return. Votes? Drugs? No clue.
Ineresting, I’m watching C-Span and congress is outraged by the damage done to families by the peanut butter contamination. “We need regulations to ensure that more people are not hurt.” Yep peanut butter got these doofs off their lazy butts. Six people have unfortunately died and hundreds taken ill from unsanitary conditions in a peanut butter factory. Now, apparently it is OK for millions of illegals to bring in diseases from unchecked countries, fine to have the education of our children reduced to sitting in multi-language environments not even knowing what is being said much of the time, fine to have illegals take lives DUI, robberies, gang activity, drug activity and emotionally damage people by raping and intimidation. But mention peanut butter and our guys in Washington are all over it. Great system we have isn’t it?
I think a mine field similar to what divides the Korean peninsula would be a great solution. But seriously, declare war on Mexico and annex their country. The US is completely justified in doing so seeing as Mexico has launched a 20 million person invasion of our country. Certainly we are much more justified in invading Mexico than we were in Iraq.
Finish the fence and put more patrols on it. The people crossing the border illegally that are taking American jobs are a big part of our economic woes right now. They come here to take our jobs and drive down wages because they work for so little. They’ve flooded the trades industry and law abiding companies can’t compete on bids with companies that use illegal immigrants because they are undocumented and don’t pay for things like workmans comp. insurance and such. Then they send home the money they make and don’t return it to the economy here.
Finish the fence!
In regards to those who think we shouldn’t put the fence up because it puts illegal crossers onto more dangerous alternate routes…… What are you thinking???? Would you not put a fence up around your home to protect your family from outside dangers? Just to protect potential thieves or “bed people” from getting hurt trying to get over the fence into your home? How ridiculous is all of this? TOO RIDICULOUS!! No one is asking them to illegally come into our country. There is no invitation! We have enough to manage of our own in this country then to play welcome wagon to other countries’ poor or uneducated.
A suggestion for John King: before winter finally leaves the upper midwest, I would love to see an in-depth piece on Minnesota, North or South Dakota. Several reasons: high gas and oil prices, an economy premised on cheap utilities (e.g.)really poor housing with NO INSULATION built around WWII, so low income folks accustomed to spending tons of money on heating their homes for mos on end. Economic slow down hits airline industry (main economic base was NWA, now bought by Delta, crisis in automakers, Ford plant on the chopping block.) Green building, green industry analysis is that it would be GREENER to tear down all the housing in South Minneapolis, than try to retro-fit, and in the meantime our dollars keep going up the chimney (if we have one). Twin Cities once known for its arts communicty (based on philantropy) deeply endangered. I’ll tell you more, if you write me, I will help with the research and the story!
Keep building the fence, enforce the immigration laws but amend to have local law enforcement enforce the immigration laws also. Then deport them immediately. Do you know what happens in Mexico and many other countries when an illegal is caught? Many of them are shot and killed; I do not want that to happen here just deport them immediately. To Maggie: Daley, the idiot and corrupt mayor of Chicago already illegally declared the city to be a sanctuary city; much of it already looks like it is Mexico. As the article states the fence is working. Of course a few will still get in but when you go from 800 per day to 10, I would say that it is working. Finally, charge the eight Democratic liberal socialists pushing their garbage with treason and prosecute. The government just does not get it, WE THE PEOPLE are sick of the illegal aliens in our country. Here we are in an economic crisis and going broke and these jerks are worried about criminals that should not even be here that syphon approximately $500 billion of our tax monies for free government aid and services. This MUST be stopped. Cutoff all government aid and services to illegals and they will start self deporting because the will not be able to get freebies on our dime anymore. What the heck is wrong with these idiot liberals?
JUST SHOOT THE MOTHER F’ERS WHEN THEY CROSS THE BORDER AND REPUBLICIANS TOO!
I totally agree w/JohnIllinois: Do whatever to keep illegals out – – and when you find them here – send them back – –
We must take responsibility for immigration issues. We must grant full citizenship to the immigrants who have been living and working in our country, and treat them with an enthusiastic inclusive spirit, and we must prevent immigrants from illegally crossing our borders, from now on, that seek to build a new life. The individuals that squeak by should be granted immunization, because it would have been our failure to prevent them from getting in. This way is humane, and it is the path of least resistance.
I cannot believe the racism I am seeing here as well as a slew of untruths. First of all, multilingualism makes people smarter. Our country is based on immigration unless you happen to be native american we are decendants of immigrants. Just the fact that some of these people endure hardship and danger to better themselves to get here is laudable and would leave many of us in the dust.
But, then, if we have to give them any state, I would give them back Texas. That way they
would then have Mr. Bush. Maybe they could hold him up as a pinata.
Trust me, if the employers didn’t want to pay decent wages and hire illegals, its not the illegals fault but the employers who we should be railing against.
pjinaries says:
February 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
> multilingualism makes people smarter.
No, not really. It just makes some people stupid in many languages.
> Our country is based on immigration unless you happen to be native american we are decendants of immigrants.
Well, even they came from somewhere. How far back you got to go to be “native” American. My ancestors were in this country before it was a country. Am I “native American?” I consider myself a native American. But, if you want to go all the way back to where my ancestors came from, then I’m an African American. Imagine that.
> if the employers didn’t want to pay decent wages and hire illegals, its not the illegals fault but the employers
Does this mean it’s not the drug dealers’ fault that people want to buy drugs? Under this logic, you’d go after the person wanting the service (drugs or cheap labor), not those providing the service (drug dealers or illegals). Your answer, then, is to throw all the pot smokers in jail? Where would IMAO get its commenters? Or half its writers?
Most Mexicans are NOT lazy, and are generally nice people to be around, but Hispanic culture is almost the complete opposite of America’s more Teutonic sensibilities. For example, in linear thinking (we use clocks here, not roosters), basic rules of courtesy (flushing used toilet paper, washing hands, wiping, etc.), fashion (the Mr. T look went out a long time ago, vato!), or a general lack of sensitivity or awareness of others around them (we don’t want to hear your stupid Disney polka music at 2 AM).
Best idea- just because you are born on American soil does NOT make you a citizen. By the way this is not actually the law, just common practice, look it up. I’m tired of hearing we can’t send them back because their children are citizens, why? Just because these criminals (and they are, they have broken the law) dropped a child on our land, why should said child automatically be a citizen, this is not a prize.
There is a permanent satisfying solution to the pesky eternal U.S.-Mexico border problem: dissolve the border along with the cruddy Mexican government and megamerge the two countries, creating a bunch of new U.S. states, allowing mass 2-way migration to equalize development and opportunities permanently. My proposal is described on my Web page
http://tlwinslow.weebly.com/megamerge-the-dissolution-solution.html