Unconstitutional War

So some people are saying maybe it’s unconstitutional that Obama went to war with Libya without consulting Congress. We still care about that sort of thing? I thought something being constitutional was sort of a vague concept now with no strict definition — like saying something is smurfy. Still, Joe Biden thinks Obama should be impeached over this — though there is a bit of a conflict of interest there since, if it happens, Biden will get a big pay raise out of the deal.

So, what do you think? Should Obama be impeached over this, or are you like me and just assumed the president had the authority to bomb wherever in the Middle East whenever he felt like it?

31 Comments

  1. Here’s what the critics are saying about Rockets Over Libya the new production from famed comedy team Obama & Clinton. “I laughed so hard I almost impeached myself!”….Dennis Kucinich. “This is a cinematic masterpiece, I wish I could make movies this good.”…Michael Moore. “This film is better then a ride in new Corvair.”….Ralph Nader. “Who the hell do you think you are, making a movie this funny?”….Louis Farrakhan. “It’s da bomb!”….Moammar Gadhafi. “WTF!?”….George Bush.

  2. At least Bill bombed people to cover for something, like hearings on his serial sexual harassment, but O-bomb-a seems to be bombing Libya, in aid to Al-Qaeda, because he was too gutless to support the people of Iran and too late to take a coherent position on Egypt.

    Nothing quite says “Muslim Outreach” like 120 Tomahawk missiles.

  3. Let me consult my vision of the facts at hand.

    * The Chief of Naval operations says we’re not sure what the next step is.
    * Our allies may possess highly competent militaries, but this is not July of 1914. Neither France nor Britain has the resources to sustain a long term commitment (And an air war in particular) in Libya
    * Quacky Dictator Guy still outguns and outnumbers the rebels. He currently holds the tactical advantage and something of a strategic advantage on the ground.
    * An air war can’t do much of anything here without people on the ground to guide the munitions.

    No discussing matters with Congress, “What is the Constitution?”, no reliable allied militaries, hostile area, overstretched military, and a desperate need to get boots on the ground. I’m having flashbacks to H.R. McMaster’s Dereliction of Duty and I certainly hope they’re simply inaccurate flashbacks. Still, we had better be glad there’s no Communist China on Libya’s border.

  4. Yes, O-bah-muhh should be impeached. Over this? Hey, Whatever works. Joe Biden becoming President? While that is a big F***in’ deal, it won’t be for long, ‘cuz if ‘The Smartest President Ever’ can be impeached, how long will it take F***in’ Biden to be impeached?

    Does the President have authority to bomb wherever, in the Middle East, and whenever he felt like it? No, Israel is in the Middle East, Frank. The rest, as he has said, is just ‘Humanitarian Bombing’ Who can be opposed to Humanitarian Bombing? That’s why he won the Nobel Peace Prize, because they could tell O-bah-muhh is a Humanitarian.

  5. Bombing any middle eastern country is ok with me, but the question I have is…what the hell are we like bombing? Does it make sense to send in a $1,000,000 cruise missile to bomb stones back into the stone age? Like we are going to tell the Islamist, “you better get your stuff together buster or we are going to bomb you back into the stone age”… And the Islamist will say…”Stupid Infidel…we are already in the Stone Age!” No wonder you elected Obama President of the United States…you are all fools who let your women run your wars! Bring it in and we shall have smaller stones to deal with! Thanks for breaking them up for us you idiots!

  6. Oh yea…we better not mess with Israel because they would kick our a$$es in any war run by Obama! And they would do so within about 3 days!!! Plus, Israel are the good guys…which would make them a likely target for Obama… Helen Thomas could direct the war and then make sure all the Jooooooooooos get back to Germany where they came from…

  7. As I understand it impeachment is simply accusing a politician of wrong doing or misconduct.
    If there isn’t enough in his resume to take him down by now it’ll never happen.
    If so it would be broadcast on NPR, PBS, The View & Oprah and have the look of the Dean Martin Celebrity Roast with J. Biden reprising his role as
    Rip Taylor, complete with confetti.

    OK I’m depressed…

  8. Let’s ask Thomas Jefferson on the Constitutionality of bombing Libya (…to the shores of Tripoli..)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War#Declaration_of_war_and_naval_blockade

    According to wikipedia, In response, “Jefferson sent a small force to the area to protect American ships and citizens against potential aggression, but insisted that he was ‘unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense.

    What about Ronnie Raygun?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Libya_%281986%29
    According to wikipedai, Ronnie just sent the bombs.

    Since nobody knows what the hell Obama’s planning on doing or going to do (even Obama probably has no idea), it’s hard to say which precedent rules.

    I am>/i> against impeachment. I watched it in the 90s, our fine media friends will pull out all the stops demonizing the GOP so much that he’ll probably win re-election.

  9. Of course this is Constitutional. It is an implicit right found in the penumbra of fundamental protections afforded the President – the absolute right to privacy in deciding whom to bomb, and when, and why. Keep your laws off my frontal lobe!

  10. Okay, why is everyone making a big deal out of this? How many times have various Presidents torched off a few billion bucks of fireworks without Congressional consent? Obama sucks, to be sure, but this is not the issue to go after him on.

  11. There’s no reason someone as great as TheWon should have to fool with trivialities like congress or that irritating constitution thingy. Although if he did end up getting impeached I think Biden would be entertaining as all get out for about 6 months and then would have to be impeached too.

  12. I support the impeachment of most politicians. Of course, the size and ripeness of the peach used should reflect the severity of the individual’s transgressions, e.g. the worse the deed, the larger and less ripe the peach.

  13. I just assumed Qaddafi was covered under the commerce clause.

    So the marxist left found something in the constitution they like, no wonder we keep hearing about it. Like when my cat brings a dead mouse to me. They’ve hunted it down and swatted it around biting and clawing until there was a just a mangled corpse left and now they want me to make good use of it. F#$@ YOU!

    Unlike my cat leftists know better and are actually proud of the way they have destroyed the constitution and American independence, culture, and religion. They advertised themselves as healers and reformers but they were revenge fueled wrecking balls. Not that republicans haven’t done a stellar job of going along with it. Republicans, are like if someone robbed your house they’d be your “neighbor” who unlocked the door and helped them move all your stuff into their truck.

  14. The Republicans would let the Democrats do the heavy lifting of moving the furniture out of your house, but then they would help sell it and would split the profits with the Dems 50/50. When you got home the Republicans would be all like can you believe those nasty Democrats took all your stuff! We must do better to make sure they never do that again and if I’m elected, we will do better for a better America, the Shining City on the Hill…then they would be off to the South of France to spend your dough on a lavish vacation!

  15. “it would be fine to bomb most middle eastern countries, except Libya is in northern Africa. It’s not a middle eastern or arab state”

    Official Name: Great Socialist People´s Libyan Arab Republic
    Language: Arabic
    Religion: Islam is the state religion, and about 97 percent of all Libyans are Sunni Muslim
    Membership: Libya is a member of the UN, OAU, Arab League , OPEC, Union of the Arab Maghreb and Organization of the Islamic Conference.
    The indigenous population of Libya is mostly Berber and Arab in origin;

    News flash: the “middle east” is not a country, being in Africa doesn’t disqualify you from being “Arab”

    Did someone tell Obama he’s bombing a Socialist country???

  16. “Did someone tell Obama he’s bombing a Socialist country???”

    Probably part of the reason for the hesitation and dithering. The rest of the reason is that Qdaffy believes in the 12th Imam/Al Mahdi/Caliphate which is why Obama dosen’t really want to take him out, or at least make sure his successor is also in favor of the 12th/Mahdi/Caliphate also.

    Obama is the 12th Imam/Al Mahdi and plans to become Caliph of the 57 Islamic states in 2013 after he’s done eliminating America as a world power (i.e., a threat to his rule).

  17. “So some people are saying maybe it’s unconstitutional…”

    One of the great things about the Constitution is that it’s pretty simple to understand. And no, it’s not constitutional for him to send our troops to war without congressional authorization, so he should absolutely be impeached. Right John Boehner? Boehner? John? …chirp, chirp, chirp.

    Could someone please explain exactly what it is that Boehner – the guy who said he wanted to be majority leader…again – is supposedly doing these days?

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