Friday Night Open Thread: Was Lincoln a Genius?

All humans agree that slavery is an abomination. (The grey area of wage slavery, we won’t go into at this time.)

Was it a mark of genius on Lincoln’s part to place one thing even higher on the scale of morality, instead of taking the easy route, and simply condemning slavery?

It was the Constitution that he was sworn to protect. It was the union, the notion that the government of the people, etc., should not perish from the earth.

Lincoln’s statement may be equivalent to saying that murderers, stranglers, and wife-beaters must be punished, but only by the system of jury trial — which above all must be preserved.

 

Executive Mansion
Washington, August 22, 1862.

Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.

I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.

As to the policy I “seem to be pursuing” as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.

Yours,
A. Lincoln.

 

In just over five months he issued the Emancipation Proclamation.


 


 

Bond Girlathon Friday : Results from 6/12/2026 : New Matches for 6/19/2026

(4) Famke Janssen No Preference Tsai Chin
165 0 21
Karin Dor No Preference Serena Gordon
94 1 76

New Matches for 6/19/2026

 

Match 1

 

(8) Jill St. John (Tiffany Case) vs Michelle Yeoh (Wai Lin)

 

 

Contestant Record Total Scores
(8) Jill St. John 5 – 1 – 0 874 – 5 – 449
Tiffany Case

Actress: Jill St. John
Nationality: American
Bond Movie: Diamonds Are Forever (1971)

Synopsis:

Tiffany Case was a diamond smuggler in part of a pipeline of smugglers that ultimately ended at Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Courier Peter Franks was supposed to pass the diamonds to Tiffany, but Bond intercepted and impersonated Franks, and managed to take the diamonds for himself. Bond’s involvement saved Tiffany being murdered, and she eventually switched to Bond’s allegiance.

Jill St. John

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Contestant Record Total Scores
Michelle Yeoh 3 – 3 – 0 475 – 6 – 698
Wai Lin

Actress: Michelle Yeoh
Nationality: Malaysian
Bond Movie: Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)

Synopsis:

Wai Lin was a Red Chinese agent, and had the same mission as Bond to investigate media magnate Elliot Carver. Carver had been suspected of causing tragic events so that he could get exclusive coverage on them and increase his ratings. Wai Lin was intelligent and worked more cleverly than Bond on several occasions. Eventually they teamed up together and stormed Carver’s stealth ship.

Michelle Yeoh

Who do you prefer?
23 votes · 23 answers

 

Match 2

 

(2) Jacqueline Bisset(Giovanna Goodthighs) vs (1) Teri Hatcher (Paris Carver)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Contestant Record Total Scores
(2) Jacqueline Bisset 6 – 0 – 0 962 – 0 – 244
Giovanna Goodthighs

Miss Goodthighs is a Smersh agent who attempts to kill baccarat master Evelyn Tremble (operating under the alias James Bond 007) at Casino Royale in a bid to prevent him from bankrupting her employer Le Chiffre. She meets him in a hotel room, wearing a nightgown and cradling a large bottle of champagne suggestively in her arms. Despite successfully seducing and poisoning him with a spiked drink, he is rescued by his recruiter and ally Vesper Lynd. When Tremble asks what became of her, Lynd remarks that she “took care of her”.


Jacqueline Bisset

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Contestant Record Total Scores
(1) Teri Hatcher 6 – 0 – 0 1218 – 1 – 237
Paris Carver

Actress: Teri Hatcher
Nationality: American
Bond Movie: Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)

Synopsis:

Paris Carver was an ex-lover of Bond’s, and wife of media mogul Elliot Carver. When Elliot was suspected as a terrorist, M sent Bond to seduce Paris and use his prior relationship to get information. Paris wasn’t happy to see Bond, and refused to help him. However, when Elliot spotted the two talking, and tried to kill Paris, she changed her mind and told Bond everything. She died that evening as Elliot sent henchman Dr. Kaufman to kill her.

Teri Hatcher

Who do you prefer?
24 votes · 24 answers

 

 


 

Straight Line of the Day: Causes of the Big Chimpanzee Rift…

Largest Known Wild Chimpanzee Community Breaks Apart After Decades of Unity

SciTech Daily | June 2, 2026 |  University of Texas at Austin

Wild chimpanzees in Uganda split into two separate communities and later engaged in deadly attacks against each other.

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For the first 20 years of research, the chimpanzee community remained united. Individuals regularly moved among flexible subgroups, known as “clusters,” while maintaining social bonds across the larger group. This fission-fusion social structure is common in chimpanzees, with members temporarily separating and later rejoining.

That pattern began to change in 2015, when researchers noticed growing division between the Western and Central clusters, which increasingly avoided one another.


 


 


 


 

Straight Line of the Day: Do You Plan To Go to Hersheypark and Hide Under a Table, and Miss Out on the 55-Person Brawl at the SooperDooperLooper Coaster?

Giant brawl forced Hersheypark to stop rollercoaster as parents hid under tables: police
PennLive | 9 June 2026 | Zahriah Balentine

Hersheypark visitors shielded their children and hid under tables during a wide-scale fight on opening day in April, police said in court documents released Tuesday.

The rollercoaster Skyrush also had to come to an emergency stop during the April 3 series of fights, Derry Township police wrote in an affidavit of probable cause charging Quaneek Williams, 18, with riot, a felony, and other charges including assault and failing to disperse.

Williams, of Lemoyne, was one of 55 people between 12 and 19 years old charged in connection with the brawl. …

Police said surveillance footage showed two groups of people arguing before a fight broke out near the SooperDooperLooper coaster about five minutes prior.

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Nah. I plan to go to go to DisneyWorld and watch Bearded Snow White during Pride Month.


 

Bond Girlathon Wednesday : Results from 6/10/2026 : New Matches for 6/17/2026

 

I think I could have made a great Bond girl. What do you think?

 

Results from 6/10/2026

 

 

(1) Barbara Bach No Preference (7) Britt Ekland
164 0 59
(11) Madelaine Smith No Preference (16) Sue Vanner
134 1 84

 

New Matches for 6/17/2026

Match 1

 

(6) Caroline Munro (Naomi) vs Gloria Hendry (Rosie Carver)

 

Contestant Record Total Scores
(6) Caroline Munro 8 – 0 – 0 1268 – 13 – 410
Naomi

 

 

 

Actress: Caroline Munro
Nationality: English
Bond Movie: The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)

Synopsis:

Naomi was an aid for Karl Stromberg, and escorted Bond and Anya Amasova to Stromberg’s oceanic citadel, the Atlantis. After Bond’s meeting ended, Stromberg instructed henchman Jaws to kill the two spies. In an intense chase sequence with Bond and Amasova driving a Lotus Esprit, Jaws shot at them from a car, another henchmen tried to kill them with a sidecar-missile, and Naomi tried to shoot them down from a helicopter. She met her end as Bond blew up her helicopter with a surface-to-air missile.

Caroline Munro

 

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Contestant Record Total Scores
Gloria Hendry 1 – 7 – 0 231 – 24 – 1355

Rosie Carver

Actress: Gloria Hendry
Nationality: American
Bond Movie: Live and Let Die (1973)

Synopsis:

Rosie Carver was an inept and incompetent double agent, working for the CIA and for heroin baron Dr. Kananga. She checked into Bond’s hotel room as Mrs. Bond, and said she would take him to the spot where Bains, another MI6 agent, was killed. While picnicking near the area, Bond confronts Rosie, revealing that he knows she is working for Kanaga. Bond threatens to kill her, and Rosie runs away, only to be killed by a hidden gun in one of Kanaga’s scarecrows.

Gloria Hendry

 

Who do you prefer?
50 votes · 50 answers

 

Match 2

 

Olga Bisera (Felicca) vs (8) Jane Seymour (Solitaire)

 

 

Contestant Record Total Scores
Olga Bisera 1 – 7 – 0 391 – 16 – 1207

Felicca

Actress: Olga Bisera
Nationality: Bosnian
Bond Movie: The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)

Synopsis:

Felicca worked for Aziz Fekkesh, a black market dealer who was selling the microfilms of a submarine tracking system. Fekkesh instructed Felicca to entertain Bond, should he call round, so that henchman Sandor could kill him. In their brief time together, Felicca took a liking to Bond, and when she saw Sandor about to shoot him, she spun round and took the bullet herself.

Olga Bisera

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Contestant Record Total Scores
(8) Jane Seymour 6 – 2 – 0 1259 – 7 – 787

Solitaire

Actress: Jane Seymour
Nationality: English
Bond Movie: Live and Let Die (1973)

Synopsis:

Solitaire was a psychic tarot card reader working for heroin baron Dr. Kananga. She predicted the movements of James Bond and other men who posed a threat to their operations. Solitaire was practically imprisoned by Kananga as he knew that, like her mother, she would lose her psychic gift if she were to make love. When first meeting Bond, Solitaire drew the lovers card, predicting the fate of her and Bond. Indeed, Solitaire soon lost her powers, and became a target of Kananga’s wrath.

Jane Seymour

 

Who do you prefer?
48 votes · 48 answers

 

 


 

Babesleaga Update : 6/16/2026

Hi guys, just wanted to give you a furher update. THis weekend was a mess for me including getting a severe sunburn on my right hand leading to a heat rash. Rather painful and combined with heat exhaustion  made posting anything difficult. So I am resetting this week, starting to feel better and we will be back on Babesleaga schedule next week. Biggest part of the project is getting Group AN researched. Gotta find those photos you know. I also want to address a post about “How about some dudes” for a contest. I might try a classic movie star contest in the future but there is no date certain for that project. We will see. Hope everyone else is looking forward to their summer and I will post this little preview of the Fourth. I know I’m at attention.

 

 


 


 

Immigration. Heh.

Million migrants expected to sign up for Spain’s amnesty
The Telegraph | June 15, 2026 | James Crisp

Spain’s migrant amnesty is set to attract more than one million people, which is double the expected number of undocumented workers seeking legal residency rights.

The migration ministry said it had received about 900,000 applications. The government initially thought only half a million illegal migrants would claim.

Meanwhile: . . .

Tourists in Spain face scrutiny over their finances – with new rules meaning visitors could be asked to prove they have ‘sufficient’ money for their stay
daily mail

Millions of Britons will jet off to Spain this summer – but holidaymakers should make sure they’re financially solvent before they touch down or face being denied entry.

Tourists visiting for up to 90 days could be asked to present proof of having sufficient means for the duration of their proposed stay, after regulations were first introduced post-Brexit in 2021.

Spain’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs quietly announced earlier this year that every visitor to the destination in 2026 will now be required to have €122.10 (£105.53) per person per day.

So, interns can’t go there unless they sneak in and apply for amnesty.