Yeah, this story might be bogus, although UPI is usually a pretty good source. The big boys (US and Iraqi) are apparently denying it. Coincidental, don’t you think, that the nuke inspectors were asked back though?
If this is true I think Cheney should send an e-mail to his and Bush’s detractors with a picture of himself grinning with middle finger raised.
…Oh yeah and maybe a short sound file attached…. hahahaha
I remember watching a movie about a murder trial (the victim’s body had not been found) where the defence lawyer announced that the ‘victim’ had been found alive and would be walking into court momentarily. The jury watched with rapt attention as the doors swung open–and the lawyer’s assistant walked in.
The lawyer then said, “If you the jury had truly believed that the victim was dead, you would not have looked at the door. You looked. That’s reasonable doubt.”
To all those who have declared that there are no WMD’s in Iraq.
You looked!
If this is true, is anyone here really surprised by this? I’m not – it is just validation for what we already know – I just can’t wait to see the spin on it from Mt. Moore, Terry McAwful, etc.
though i wouldn’t be suprised if this report is accurate, i’m defaulting to the 48 hour rule
either way, should be interesting to see what comes out of this
Actualy, I would be suprised, as I remember the military was more concerned with chem / bio threats. I don’t remember anyone thinking that Iraq had anything in the way of nukes.
I don’t think this story will hold up though.
Futility
Going with the 48 hour rule myself.
“Reuters” has already disclaimed the report, based on a comment by Iraq’s Interior Ministry.
I wonder where the truth is going to end up being with this one.
Speaking of movies… (God I am such a dork..)
I just had this picture pop up in my head of the end of “Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back” where Jay and Silent Bob are flying around the country showing up at the doors of all the people who said rude about J & SB’s alter egos “Bluntman and Cronic” on the internet, and proceeded to put the smack down on them.
…Except I’m picturing Rummy and Cheney showing up at peoples door.. Starting with.. Joe Wilson. (Cheney playing the part of Jay{he has the cussin’ part down right?}) “Are you ‘Joe Wilson’ who said Bush lied and misused your report to go to an illegal war?” (Then the Whupin’ begins!) WHAM! BOOM! BANG! POW! BAMPH! (bamph?.. oh, sorry, that’s the sound Nightcrawler makes when he is translocating in the X-Men comics.. Sorry..)
Hey, they could do it, Bush is starting his campain trail soon, they can just make a couple of side trips… (uh Frank, would this make a decent IMW?)
Except this time you could team up Cheney and Chomps instead..
Joe Wilson: “Who is your angry looking friend in the baseball cap? And why is he standing on all fours… Aaaaghhh!”
Scott: good point. If this story turns out to be true, it does validate that Saddam had WMDs.
But we didn’t go to war to find out whether Saddam had WMDs. All prewar evidence suggests that he did (at least, that’s what it suggests to reasonable people). The war was to get Saddam but also to get those weapons before they fell into terrorist hands.
If you follow the news, you hear a story like this every month or two. Maybe they haven’t been nukes in the past, but we have actually found lots of banned weapons. The problem is that the press barely mentions it, and then everyone stops talking about it after a few hours.
Therefore, my friends, SPREAD THE WORD. Tell your friends; put it on your Web site; do whatever you can to make sure this isn’t forgotten.
I’m going with the 48-hour rule myslef; let’s see what happens. If there is any truth to this I’m betting that the weapons are chemical or radiological, not nuclear. I just don’t think Saddam was quite there yet (of course they could be French or Russian warheads …).
Whatever the case, it’s definately good news if true. It validates another of the many causes we had for deposing Saddamn, and it means that three very dangerous weapons will not be heading to London or New York in a terrorist’s suitcase.
S
M1A1: …but then the prosecutor quickly points out to the jury that the defendent is certainly guilty because he was the only one in the courtroom who did not look, knowing that the victim was certainly dead.
If this is true, during the debates, Bush really could just button his jacket, straighten his tie, and say, “Screw you, screw you all!” Frank needs to become a Bush speech writer!
if true & if a mated missle warhead, I ga-run-tee there’s north korean markings on them.
which brings to mind the unoffical Ranger motto – “Death to Tyrants!”
North Korean? Highly unlikely. The smart money is that these are Depleted Uranium SAMs.
I’d also be willing to bet they are French, and acquired during the oil for food scandal, which would make their sale highly illegal.
Chirac should have fun denying this sone…
People….
If this turns out to be true it is NOT good news. If this is true, then who knows how many other nuclear warheads are lying around undiscovered in Iraq, or have already fallen into the hands of terrorists. Considering this good news is as bad as the Democrats considering it good news when the war effort goes bad.
That’s a good point, Jack. If it were true, it would mean that terrorists had a means of foiling our means of detection of nuclear weapons. If they could do that, who’s to say that warheads couldn’t have been smuggled into the country already?
Meh, better for it to be untrue (at least as far as the weapons recovered being nukes is concerned), all things considered.
You guys Jumping all over this story like a It’s just hilarious.
I”M sure there is nothing to this (but) even if there IS I”m pertty sure (98%) they are OLD (left over) nukes. But:: we didn’t invade Iraq to get LEFTOVER NUKES that’s wasn’t the case for war!!1 talk abouta destraction!!
Jack, I think most people meant “it’s good that we found them”, and not so much “it’s good that they’re there”. And you can’t blame folks for wanting to see Bush vindicated after all the crap the left has given him over WsMD.
But in any case, it’s moot. No nukes in Iraq … at least, none we know of.
S
I would have considered a single nuclear bomb possible. But three NUCLEAR MISSILES? Those could have only come from former Soviet states and wouldn’t have been easy to store, not to mention insanely expensive. A “first genereration” nuke would require a very large rocket for launch. The only place they would have a hope of buying an advanced bomb/missile would be former Soviet country – but three? For something as “hot” (politically, diplomatically) as that? Not a chance.
Has anyone accounted for all of the nuclear warheads that the former USSR posessed? I mean, when the Red Curtain fell and all the little angry Soviet mud-hole tyrants declared their sovereignty and posession of whatever happened to be left sitting in their backyards, did anyone happen to make some sort of nuclear (war)head-count to see what is left and what’s gone missing?
I imagine sitting on a “hot” train or flatbed-mounted missile would get a little uncomfortable, especially for a tiny, cash-strapped young dictatorship who didn’t want anymore paranoia than they already suffer. Afterall, if peace is your goal, a couple of stray nukes are a liability if you’re staring down your equally-paranoid opponent’s 100 – unless, of course, you’re an insane, power-hungry, ego-maniacal, sadistic, ass-faced tyrant like Saddam. Then, of course, peace isn’t even on your agenda.
Anyway, I remember this question being asked frequently in the early 90’s, and I’m sure an effort was made, but don’t recall ever hearing of an actual accounting…
Just my happy thought for the day… =:-]
Regardless of this and / or other instances, some WMD’s have been found (chemical, biological items), Dubya said one of the reasons was because Iraq was a growing threat (NOT Imminent), and again, Iraq was sponsoring terrorists (25,000 poer homicide bomber in Israel), and had ties with Al-Quida (SP?), negotiations, meetings, etc. he needed to be taken out, and I am glad for it. How many UN resoultions did he violate? Firing on US planes every day in the no fly zone?
Am I repeating myself? Yes. Why? Because people like iamwrong seem to be thick-headed, like in the A&W Root Beer commercials, except being thickheaded in this case is bad.
EAT IT, SUCKAHS!
Don’t get your hopes up too much; this smells funny…
Sure would be nice, though… 🙂
Yeah, this story might be bogus, although UPI is usually a pretty good source. The big boys (US and Iraqi) are apparently denying it. Coincidental, don’t you think, that the nuke inspectors were asked back though?
If this is true I think Cheney should send an e-mail to his and Bush’s detractors with a picture of himself grinning with middle finger raised.
…Oh yeah and maybe a short sound file attached…. hahahaha
Maybe Fox could show it in the corner of the screen all day. crossing fingers.
I remember watching a movie about a murder trial (the victim’s body had not been found) where the defence lawyer announced that the ‘victim’ had been found alive and would be walking into court momentarily. The jury watched with rapt attention as the doors swung open–and the lawyer’s assistant walked in.
The lawyer then said, “If you the jury had truly believed that the victim was dead, you would not have looked at the door. You looked. That’s reasonable doubt.”
To all those who have declared that there are no WMD’s in Iraq.
You looked!
What movie? It sounds good.
If this is true, is anyone here really surprised by this? I’m not – it is just validation for what we already know – I just can’t wait to see the spin on it from Mt. Moore, Terry McAwful, etc.
though i wouldn’t be suprised if this report is accurate, i’m defaulting to the 48 hour rule
either way, should be interesting to see what comes out of this
Actualy, I would be suprised, as I remember the military was more concerned with chem / bio threats. I don’t remember anyone thinking that Iraq had anything in the way of nukes.
I don’t think this story will hold up though.
Futility
Going with the 48 hour rule myself.
“Reuters” has already disclaimed the report, based on a comment by Iraq’s Interior Ministry.
I wonder where the truth is going to end up being with this one.
Speaking of movies… (God I am such a dork..)
I just had this picture pop up in my head of the end of “Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back” where Jay and Silent Bob are flying around the country showing up at the doors of all the people who said rude about J & SB’s alter egos “Bluntman and Cronic” on the internet, and proceeded to put the smack down on them.
…Except I’m picturing Rummy and Cheney showing up at peoples door.. Starting with.. Joe Wilson. (Cheney playing the part of Jay{he has the cussin’ part down right?}) “Are you ‘Joe Wilson’ who said Bush lied and misused your report to go to an illegal war?” (Then the Whupin’ begins!) WHAM! BOOM! BANG! POW! BAMPH! (bamph?.. oh, sorry, that’s the sound Nightcrawler makes when he is translocating in the X-Men comics.. Sorry..)
Hey, they could do it, Bush is starting his campain trail soon, they can just make a couple of side trips… (uh Frank, would this make a decent IMW?)
Except this time you could team up Cheney and Chomps instead..
Joe Wilson: “Who is your angry looking friend in the baseball cap? And why is he standing on all fours… Aaaaghhh!”
Scott: good point. If this story turns out to be true, it does validate that Saddam had WMDs.
But we didn’t go to war to find out whether Saddam had WMDs. All prewar evidence suggests that he did (at least, that’s what it suggests to reasonable people). The war was to get Saddam but also to get those weapons before they fell into terrorist hands.
If you follow the news, you hear a story like this every month or two. Maybe they haven’t been nukes in the past, but we have actually found lots of banned weapons. The problem is that the press barely mentions it, and then everyone stops talking about it after a few hours.
Therefore, my friends, SPREAD THE WORD. Tell your friends; put it on your Web site; do whatever you can to make sure this isn’t forgotten.
I’m going with the 48-hour rule myslef; let’s see what happens. If there is any truth to this I’m betting that the weapons are chemical or radiological, not nuclear. I just don’t think Saddam was quite there yet (of course they could be French or Russian warheads …).
Whatever the case, it’s definately good news if true. It validates another of the many causes we had for deposing Saddamn, and it means that three very dangerous weapons will not be heading to London or New York in a terrorist’s suitcase.
S
Please tell me that the Frank’s original post is a reference to Family Guy…it would just make me respect him even more
M1A1: …but then the prosecutor quickly points out to the jury that the defendent is certainly guilty because he was the only one in the courtroom who did not look, knowing that the victim was certainly dead.
If this is true, during the debates, Bush really could just button his jacket, straighten his tie, and say, “Screw you, screw you all!” Frank needs to become a Bush speech writer!
The movie was the pilot episode of Matlock.
MD2020,
The can’t hug your children with nuclear arms phrase pre-dates Family Guy, but that’s where I last saw it.
Clinton lied, sperm cells died..?!
if true & if a mated missle warhead, I ga-run-tee there’s north korean markings on them.
which brings to mind the unoffical Ranger motto – “Death to Tyrants!”
North Korean? Highly unlikely. The smart money is that these are Depleted Uranium SAMs.
I’d also be willing to bet they are French, and acquired during the oil for food scandal, which would make their sale highly illegal.
Chirac should have fun denying this sone…
“this one”
Eh? Wuz zat you say? Pooh-pooh! I know nozing zabout zeez weapons!
Affeczion,
J. Chirac
(No, its not iraqwarwrong)
Speaking of whom… I haven’t seen him (her?) around for a while. I sort of miss his illiterate mumblings…
Bad news. It’s been discredited. 🙁
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040721-123949-2680r.htm
Eh well. Worth a shot, anyhow.
Meh, it was fun while it lasted 🙂
People….
If this turns out to be true it is NOT good news. If this is true, then who knows how many other nuclear warheads are lying around undiscovered in Iraq, or have already fallen into the hands of terrorists. Considering this good news is as bad as the Democrats considering it good news when the war effort goes bad.
The worst bumper sticker is “At least no one died when Clinton lied”. Gag me. Stupid liberals.
That’s a good point, Jack. If it were true, it would mean that terrorists had a means of foiling our means of detection of nuclear weapons. If they could do that, who’s to say that warheads couldn’t have been smuggled into the country already?
Meh, better for it to be untrue (at least as far as the weapons recovered being nukes is concerned), all things considered.
You guys Jumping all over this story like a It’s just hilarious.
I”M sure there is nothing to this (but) even if there IS I”m pertty sure (98%) they are OLD (left over) nukes. But:: we didn’t invade Iraq to get LEFTOVER NUKES that’s wasn’t the case for war!!1 talk abouta destraction!!
That was NOT Jacques Chirac. Oh, geez, it’s that annoying little war lover.
Jack, I think most people meant “it’s good that we found them”, and not so much “it’s good that they’re there”. And you can’t blame folks for wanting to see Bush vindicated after all the crap the left has given him over WsMD.
But in any case, it’s moot. No nukes in Iraq … at least, none we know of.
S
I would have considered a single nuclear bomb possible. But three NUCLEAR MISSILES? Those could have only come from former Soviet states and wouldn’t have been easy to store, not to mention insanely expensive. A “first genereration” nuke would require a very large rocket for launch. The only place they would have a hope of buying an advanced bomb/missile would be former Soviet country – but three? For something as “hot” (politically, diplomatically) as that? Not a chance.
Has anyone accounted for all of the nuclear warheads that the former USSR posessed? I mean, when the Red Curtain fell and all the little angry Soviet mud-hole tyrants declared their sovereignty and posession of whatever happened to be left sitting in their backyards, did anyone happen to make some sort of nuclear (war)head-count to see what is left and what’s gone missing?
I imagine sitting on a “hot” train or flatbed-mounted missile would get a little uncomfortable, especially for a tiny, cash-strapped young dictatorship who didn’t want anymore paranoia than they already suffer. Afterall, if peace is your goal, a couple of stray nukes are a liability if you’re staring down your equally-paranoid opponent’s 100 – unless, of course, you’re an insane, power-hungry, ego-maniacal, sadistic, ass-faced tyrant like Saddam. Then, of course, peace isn’t even on your agenda.
Anyway, I remember this question being asked frequently in the early 90’s, and I’m sure an effort was made, but don’t recall ever hearing of an actual accounting…
Just my happy thought for the day… =:-]
Regardless of this and / or other instances, some WMD’s have been found (chemical, biological items), Dubya said one of the reasons was because Iraq was a growing threat (NOT Imminent), and again, Iraq was sponsoring terrorists (25,000 poer homicide bomber in Israel), and had ties with Al-Quida (SP?), negotiations, meetings, etc. he needed to be taken out, and I am glad for it. How many UN resoultions did he violate? Firing on US planes every day in the no fly zone?
Am I repeating myself? Yes. Why? Because people like iamwrong seem to be thick-headed, like in the A&W Root Beer commercials, except being thickheaded in this case is bad.