It’s important to read the viewpoint of the other side, so check out this blog on why those who think the Iraq War is right are wrong and why those who think the Iraq War is wrong are right. Of course, those who think the Iraq war is right are right, but a diversity of opinion always helps the discussion.
FIRST
Frank, we’ve been reading about why he thinks it’s wrong already. And he’s beyond muckadoo; he’s crossed over to “muckadoofus.”
Besides, he’s FRENCH, Frank. I mean, geez.
He even made the following idiotic statement as to why “iraq war wrong” on YOUR BLOG, Frank:
no French (Francais in French) Army (Armee) involvement. (How can U.S. fight war against someone without (sans) France, makes no sense hestorically)!
It’s wrong because the French weren’t involved! Of course!
While I agree that it is a good idea to read what the left has to say about the war and war in general, I also believe that it is a good idea to read and think about war itself as right or wrong. Dr. Keith Burgess-Jackson has a blog called The Ethics of War that has some good insight into why we must go to war at times and the consequences, both positive and negative, of waging war. It’s a really good read.
Send him over to dig up some of Saddam’s mass graves and watch some of Usay and Qusay’s powertool videos.
Then let’s talk about right and wrong with this Peacenik freak show.
I think he makes good points and you people are just mean.
lol
But he does raise an interesting point, which I wish you’d address, Frank:
“How can the US fight a war without France?”
(My response to him at the time was, “hey, we fought World War II without France; I think we can manage…” but I’d like to hear your take on it, Frank.)
You know, with all the bilge out there in various forms (media, internet, movies, etc.) I have heard more than enough about the wrongness of the war, etc. and I am frankly tired of it. Once you heard the leftist / communist / peaceniks / progressive / socialists / environmentalist wackos / ELF / ALF etc. never-ending mantra (Bush lied, Bush went to war for his daddy, his oil connections, it is all about oil, Cheney really is running things, Bush is a dunce, fratboy, druggee, deserter, Neo Cons are running the war, September 11th was staged, etc. etc. etc. ) Blah blah blah, yada yada yada. ad infinitum nauesum, you can only take so much.
I read over a few things on this persons blog, and it is more then enough to know that he is in need of some serious counciling. He seemed surprised after reading his blog that I was not converted. Heh?
I have to agree with Beo here, about the French quote. Do I need to go farther?
For some odd reason, I keep hearing of Weird Al Yankovics Song Genius in France song from his newest album, Poodle Hat. : )
Yes, Frank, I am MEAN…. EVIL…… as my finger approaches my mouth, like Dr. Evil…….
Evil I say! Mean and Evil! Let the bombings commence!!!’
I think anyone angered by that blog needs to take a deep breath and try reading it again, taking in its points with an open mind.
That blog makes my head hurt.
I seriously hope that page is a joke, because if it isn’t, then that person has truly thrown any hint of logic and serious thought they might have had in life out the window.
Are they actually talking about Post Tramatic Stress Disorder and the revolutionary war in the same sentence??? Egads.
“It’s simply not true that the Iraq war wasn’t wrong, this has no basis in reality. After all, the Iraq war wasn’t wasn’t wrong it was wrong.”
Must. Not. Throw. Objects. At. Stupid. People!
heh heh
IraqWarWrong is actually a plot by the VRWC to make the left look even more stupid. Oops, I let one out of the bag…
This Blog is a Joke right?
I mean this has to be an amusing attept to show the anti-war brigade as idiots, and while some people think they are dumb, they arn’t this dumb, well most of them arn’t.
“A blog about the most important issue of all time, ever: The Iraq war being wrong”
You can’t genuinely debate anybody whose position is base-lined with this thought.
Know Thy Enemy: http://iraqwarwrong.blogspot.com/
Apparently the guy doesn’t know that Bush asked France to help with the war, and they did: They immediately surrendered.
That was seriously funny. I’ve never seen that much writing about nothing. Not a single point is made anywhere in the dozen or so posts I read to support his position.
“It’s just wrong.” Say that often enough and maybe someone will believe you!!!! Muckadoo!
The reason a french person would assume the war is wrong is that he didn’t get the chance to colaborate personally. If you never get occupied, how can you help the enemy in a direct and meaningful manner?
ah the war was right in my humble but accurate opinion. haha this site is supposed to be a jokesite and here we are getting mad at some french guy…i mean he’s from france; they didn’t argue it was wrong when we liberated them but oh well it must be wrong.
Jeez, I sure hope that guy was joking when we made that blog. I once created a blog from the perspective of a Russian guy that thought there was a French conspiracy, and I tricked a lot of people, but eventually they figured out it was just me making shit up. Maybe this guy is doing the same thing? He makes absolutely no sense at all! He must be joking, I’ve concluded.
All the double-speak in that blogroll lost the message…
If there was one in the first place.
While I hold a firm belief that the so-called “Right” can learn from the “Left”, and vice versa, none of that made any sense.
Unless redundancy was the lesson to learn
Hey guys, let up on the guy.
It’s a cute blog. Blogging is hard!
At my website http://www.rightwingduck.blog-city.com (will Frank let me get away with that plug?) i try to come up with good material. At least he has a nice layout. Remember, in the liberal world, facts are irrelevant. It is the EFFORT that counts and he tried really hard. And the site is green. Military green.
It’s not that he’s wrong. Or that he’s not not wrong. I mean, he isn’t right, and if he’s not right, and not NOT right, that who’s to say what’s wrong?
Sorry. I’m stressed. It’s the revolutionary war. Nobody ever even said “thank you”.
If you’re not enjoying that site, you’re reading too hard.
I posted this on his blog:
Haha, very funny guy. I was reading this and thinking “no one can be this crazy!”. Then I realized this must be a joke blog. I mean who in their right mind would think that the Iraq war was wrong? I mean, even if it was for oil who cares? I don’t want $2 a gallon for gas. Haha, funny funny guy. Especially the whole “Frank J is a shame” haha, because we all know Frank J. is the closet thing to God we’ll get next to Regan. Haha, funny guy.
Frank,
Really… did you create this site? It’s gotta be a joke by someone pretty astute on the right… doesn’t it?
C’mon folks, it’s obviously a joke. Remember “Puce?” (Located at http://pucestopallusa.blogspot.com/) and obviously a put-on by Jim Treacher during the war itself? For crying out loud, have a sense of humor and stop thinking like DU-ers.
BTW, the overall point of trying to pin down exactly what makes anti-war sentiment proper is really quite clever. “If the war was wrong, why exactly?” seems to be a question that really ought to be asked more often.
I didn’t make it; but I applaud the courage of iraqwarwrong
But if the war is wrong shouldn’t the left love it?
ex) Treating people unequally is wrong = affirmative action/different standards based upon situational conditions.
Ideas of socially accepted/mandated behavior is wrong = social welfare programs that ‘take care’ of people who choose destructive/detrimental behaviors.
Or am I going to get reamed a new one for this idea? 😉
I have to agree with Frank on this.
Look at his Terrorist Larvae thing. Cute? Funny? Of course. But you just know that some people will take it seriously
I can just imagine Mohammed Al-Gore saying:
Look at that. They want to kill innocent women and children. Everyone at Imao.us wants to kill children. I did not invent the internet for such use. (Fundraising and Porno only)Go take a look yourself and frank’s traffic will go through the roof.
hmmmmm .
Beo,
I agree that we DO need France to fight a war. We need to work together.
We’ll work up the sweat, they can exude the smell.
rimshot
NO! WAIT! This one:
http://iraqwarwrong.blogspot.com/2004/06/iraq-burrito.html
LOL:
I was looking at my burrito at lunch and my thoughts turned, as they wont to do, to the Iraq war.
Iraq is (was) like that burrito. It holds together nicely. It is self contained. You don’t get your hands dirty. From the outside you cannot see whats inside and vice verca.
Now Bush (neocon puppet) comes along like a and cuts that burrito with recklessly a knife and fork. into pieces. But as anyone who’s ever knows, that is not the best way to eat a burrito. You make a mess over everything. You wind up spilling the chicken (Shiites) and beans (Sunnies) and so on (Kurds). You can eat it from your plate (if you have one i.e. not Tacobell) with regular knife and fork, but look: some forkfuls then have only beans (Sunnies), some only chicken(Shi’a’s.). Not the way Burrito was intended!
The best way clearly is to hold it with your two hands (careful paper wrapped) and take small clean bites slowly working your way down the Iraq burrito, never spilling, including EVERYTHING (chicken, beans, sourcream) in every bite, and occasionally adding a bit of salsa to the top (to taste).
“I think anyone angered by that blog needs to take a deep breath and try reading it again, taking in its points with an open mind.”
Remember Frank – a liberal is so open-minded that their brains fall out. : )
I must admit, it is amusing site, kind of like when Madonna, sorry…Esther….. equated GWB with SH. The sheer stupidity makes you shake your head, and laugh, hard, at them.
Guys. im PANICING!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I think the war is getting wronger and wronger.
Oh, wait. I just went to his website.
Whew. I’m glad to know it can’t get wronger.
I was really worried about that.
And why the Burrito reference? Is he anti-hispanic? BTW I think eating burritos is WRONG and getting WRONGER every day. We should talk to the UN.
Some respondes.
First thanks to Frank for having an OPEN mind which (at least) provokes discussion not quells and shrivels it.
To rightwingduck, I certainly meant no offense (racial) about burrito. It was only a metaphor. Depending on your culture, you may feel free to substitute gyoza, hoagie, wrap, wonton, egg roll, pita, etc. Maybe, it will make the post more understandable, for you (depends). I am distressed if I cause offense, and please, none taken?
Okay. Let me understand. ROFL.
You apologize for the Burrito reference but I’m free to substitute the food of my culture.
Chinese. The war is like an egg-roll.
Japanese: The war is like sushie.
Korean. The war is like a dog…
Isn’t this JUST AS OFFENSIVE?
chill out. I was being sarcastic. You’re at a conservative website. We have thick skin around here.
Ha, did you mean any offense when you said that if someone looked hispanic, you should check to make sure he wasn’t really Cuban before you trusted him?
rightwingduck, not “the war”, “Iraq” is like them. “the war” is just Wrong, not like any food whatsoever (well except maybe haggis)
beo, no, no offense there. That was just good sense. (not racial!! note I don’t mean Cuban Cubans, just the (as is well known) American irrational right wing anti communist/CAstro ones. The ones in Florida for example, you know what I’m saying (can give sources upon request) Thanks for making me clarify though, it agonizes me to cause offence so, none taken.
Beo,
How to tell if a hispanic guy is really a Cuban?
He has the ability to turn anything into a raft
He keeps referring to you as a capitalist pig
Keeps asking where all the 57 Chevy’s are..
BTW IWW – I AM a Latino male. No, stuff like that doesn’t offend me.
HEY!!! IDIOT!!! Yea you; Iraqwarwrong. It’s me again; your worst nightmare!!!! BWA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! Seriously though I really have come to the conclusion taht you’re just an idiot. The sarin gas shell was not old, it was in a ready to fire state. No I’m not talking about the missile warheads you were talking about omn your site but the artillery shell found several months ago. We also know that saddam gassed thousands of Kurds; do you honestly think that after that lttle incidetn the asshole just gave up his evil mass-destructing ways and destrooyed it all??? Who gives a flying f*** about what the U.N.intelligent thinks??!?!?!?! They have become, shall we say, less than useful. Also why do we need France’s stinking help when we have the Brits? We all know that the Broits save the Frenchies asses as well. IN short, the only reasonable conclusion is that you are in fact a total moron. Good day to you all!! Except you, idiot.
sarin shell- no way, it was binary mixture chemicals FAILED TO MIX stayed seperate. so, 45 minutes I don’t think so!
Kurds – that was in NO FLY ZONE which Saddam DID NOT CONTROL!!
U.N. (again) – say it with me “Legitimacy”. Iraqis see “UN” think “Legitimate” (as I’ve already stated at least >= 1 one other time)
moron this, moron this. Sigh, once again when you can’t attack substance you attack me with ad honimem’s! Sad really.
With warmest regrads,
you think the UN adds credibility?
Think again IWW. I didn’t go back to your website but I posted all the lousy things the UN has done. Correction. SOME of the lousy things they have done.
Running brothels in Bosnia (to include child prostitution), turning their heads in the Sudan, the Oil for Food scandal (Although it’s nice to see a father and son business doing well).
Not to mention that fact that Iraqi’s LOATHE the UN. Let’s face it. The UN turned a blind eye (can you say oil-for-food scandal) while hundreds of thousands were slaughtered.
also, make sure you find a copy of the Hans Blix report. Not that anybody on the left reads anything but the headlines – but it should be interesting reading.
BTW if we had this kind of prood AGAINST George Bush and not against SAddam, you would be screaming bloody murder.
Speaking of murder, Saddam Cleans up well. His head will look good on a platter. Ahhh, Iraqi justice.
Hey King Steve,
I made IraqwarWrong’s Bad People Blogroll.
Woohoo!!
This is to laugh. Iraqis hate UN the only institution that which tried to SAVE them from a (wrong) war?? Now I’ve hearding everything.
I don’t understand what you mean about “scandalous” oil for food, it’s a humanitarian idea (oil) (for food). Iraqi’s need food or don’t you CARE. (i.e. just want the oil no food)
Saddam is a bad man. Yes we all agree. HOWEVER many bad men in the world, not all wars o.k. as result!! Charles Manson bad man, would you uspport war on U.S. (America) (where Manson is)? (Of cousre, not. YOUR country this time, suddenly it’s not so exicting to make WARS is it!!. That just shows your hipocrisy
Rest of what you write (I admit – only skimmed) makes no sense. So UN messed up here there bla bla, (again) two wrongs don’t make a right.
That’s not democracy!
Goddamn, the shit I missed today! Right off the bat, MUCKADOOFUS. That is just classic, beo. Congrats, rightwingduck for making the BAD list.
Wait, let me get this straight. For some reason, someone would ever think of declaring war on itself because of some deranged criminal was there?
Charles Manson was not a leader of a country, Sadaam was! And I dont ANY country would want to declare war on itself.
Oh yeah, and if you’re gonna start going against people, at least read what they have to write. Dont skim!
This HAS to be a joke, this guy isn’t doing the anti-war camp any favors.
hey, did you guys break iww’s site? I can’t see it anymore. and IWW, you need to pay attention to the news more. The UNSCAM stories only been around for a few months now. I get a couple weeks behind sometimes, but come on. Manson wasn’t running our country, which just shows your stupidity. oh, why am I wasting my time? Next you’ll tell me communism was a humanitarian idea (I mean, hey, we should all be equal!). Yeah! Ideas always work perfectly in real life, which apparrently you have yet to come in contact with.
Guys: whether Manson leader, not leader, is NOT THE POINT. It was only analogy! Neither did Saddam brainwash stupid hippy girls to murder movie stars but AGAIN, NOT THE POINT.
iraqwarwrong thanking you for write direction of war being wrong, wrong, wrongest. On every level wrong. My dog, Ficticious, was used in raids in this wrong, wrongest war to look for mythical munitions and bad people who were not bad because war was wrong and you only have war for bad people. So, my dog did wrong because the war was and still wrongest. My dog was so wrong. So now that I know the wrongness about the war, I killed my dog today for the wrong things he was working on in wrong war. I did not want his wrong and bad body buried in my yard so I sold him to the Korean market down the street.
However, now confused. Mama said the money we got from Koreans is good but it come from bad dog who served in wrongest war. So does that make the Koreans bad or is Mama now wrong? I am thinking now instead of having a burrito for dinner, I need to take Mama outside.
oh, wolf’s dawn, I can’t breath! hahahahahaha
This cannot be a serious attempt from a left-leaning person to try and sway Conservative’s opinions.
James Carville isn’t even this vapid.
Bill Whittle has been M.I.A. as of late and decided to try out some opposite material?
Wolf’s Dawn, my goodness. I don’t not know whether to laugh (or) to cry. We seem to have a mixed communication.
First, I must say when I start to read your post I figured (FINALLY) there is someone with to whom I started to make a breakthrough.
but what is this CRAP aboutkilling your dog. That’s just CRAP. I (truly) hope you’re are joking beause, I do NOT condone the killing of dogs (Man’s best friend). Go pet your dog not kill him, this is improtant for you (and your ) dog.
Concerned,
iraqwarwrongwrong, dog (delishus) over wrongness of coals (char) this afternoon (apres-midi). But accident was wrong dog (neighbor’s instead) so wrong wrong dog (though wrong dog may have suppordl wrong iraqis war too and been wrong so actually right to be tasty) but need right (wrong) dog (chien) now. Worlf’s Don is wrong (right?) so wrongfulness of wronging the wrong dog right (droit) cause thirty-two wrongs make a right (wrong?) Iraq (Irak) is (est) wrong war (wrong war) and that war was wrong wrong wrong. but now wronger (by eating wrong dog). so wrong war CAN get wronger (er).
This is getting absurd. If you want to wallow in your complexities go ahead my guest. (Your funeral). I’m, getting out of here. (wackos!)
DIES laughing Okay, Frank, WHO is in charge of that blog? Because they are a GENIUS. It really, really has to be a parody. I mean, I had my doubts at first, but when I got down to the “burrito” entry, I knew it had to be a fake. No one can be that straight-faced funny and mock serious about something like that without being a brilliant satirist, unless they are really, really dense and super-serious so much as to have no clue to how funny they actually are.
We in Arizona have a saying:
It doesn’t matter how you eat a burrito, it turns out the same in the end.
You know, that burrito analogy got me thinking iraqwarwrong might be right.
I mean, regarding my previous comment about the burrito turning out the same, it doesn’t bode well for Iraq; it was destined for the crapper no matter what.
On top of that, my experiences with burritos tells me that since the US is eating that burrito, we’ll only get burned in the end.
We need the antacid that is the UN before it’s too late!
Wrong wrong dog chared and wrong dog still wrong and still not in burrito. Burrito’s are yummy but isn’t that wrong? Okay to let evil dictator (Saddam) who is leader of wrong war country (Iraq), to torture people who are not bad but must have been bad to be arrested and tortured but anyways they were tortured and some killed and some were gassed but only for 45 minutes so thats okay but it was 200,000 people. This was not wrong. It is also not wrong to put people feet first into a wood chipper or to pick up girls at random to be raped. This is not wrong when you are a bad man (Saddam) it is expected. It was his country, and the people who were bad and good and I’m so f***ing confused at this point but anyways the people voted for him so he must have been good and it was okay for him to do these things to people if he wanted because he was the leader who was a madman but that is okay.
It is not okay to kill a wrong dog.
It is not okay to make fun of camels.
It is not okay to make fun of burritos.
It is okay to hate Cubans but only if they are in Florida. If they are not in Florida it is just like wrong war in Iraq which is the wrongest war ever and then you can not hate them.
I’m going to go lie down now. After all, I did have to dig a pretty deep hole for Mama and the neighbor who was mad about me shooting wrong wrong dog. Wrong dog just did wrong on the floor so is he bad? It’s all so confusing!!!!!