Our Military IV

I’m honestly not trying to start any feuds; all you military branches should play nice. BTW, do people in the military have jokes at the expense of civilians?
(warning, items contain adult language – hell, how many kids read this site?)


Jim writes:

This represents an Army view of the Air Force.
As usual we were arguing as we headed to Easy Rider’s, a wonderfully, sleazy biker bar outside Osan AB, Korea. “There is no fuckin’ way that shit will still be on the wall” I informed Sammy. “Bullshit” he retorted, “If God actually does still love us then it will be there”. The “shit” under discussion was a chalk-written phrase on the wall of the bar stating, “Day 105 and God still loves us” that we put there a year previously. We walked in and began looking for the graffiti. There was plenty about, just not the piece we wanted. The exact location was a little hazy due to our condition when writing it. “Right there” Sammy declared, “It was right there”. That’s a fucking dart board you jackass” I informed him. “Then it must be behind it” and he climbed on a stool and pulled the whole thing off the wall and–of course– there it was.
It was significant because the number of days, 105, represented the time since Sam’s resurrection from his first divorce. After a weepy, drunken orgy of self-loathing and decrepitude Sam busted out and became the raving beauty we all loved. This happened shortly after his arrival in Okinawa to B Company, 1st Battalion, 1st Special Forces Group, which at the time was a very famous unit. The fame, more properly infamy, was due to the Sergeant Major of the unit going to Leavenworth for smuggling guns onto Okinawa, apparently for sale to the Yakuza, the Japanese mafia. The payment apparently was gold and someone involved failed a piss test for drugs so we changed the unofficial company motto to “Bravo, First of the First, Drugs, Guns and Gold”. We considered making t-shirts but assumed that someone in authority would disapprove. Sam and I were both fresh from the Special Forces Qualification Course or “Q” course and Oki was our first Special Forces assignment. Normally cherries don’t go to Oki because it is forward-deployed and gets much more dangerous missions than the stateside units but there were other members of the unit involved with the smuggling and the command structure wanted some fresh meat not connected to the incident or individuals.
Having found the evidence that God still loved us; we assumed that boded well for the rest of our evening. Grabbing multiple rum and cokes we proceeded to the pool table. Sam is a legitimately good player with flashes of brilliance and I often don’t suck, but that night the juju was all good. We won the table and Sam informed the room “Table stakes is a round for the winners and we will kick the shit out of any of you Air Force homos who step up”. This went over like a turd in a punch bowl and we readily had our first victims. The prediction was eerily accurate though, as we just couldn’t lose. We quickly accumulated a long row of full glasses and every victory was accompanied with much pontificating as I educated all present on the shortcomings of the US Air Force and their lineage. “The main problem with the Air Force is that it’s not really even a military service. You live in dormitories and eat in cafeterias. Christ it’s a fuckin’ fraternity.” I taught. Our continued success and verbal excess was beginning to chafe, and the natives were seething. The flashpoint was Sam lining up on the eight ball then looking away at me, smiling at the poor wingnut, and burying the ball in the pocket without even looking, proclaiming “Next!”
I was in the process of remounting my soapbox to continue my education of the unwashed masses, when I heard a nasty thwack and turned to see one of guys we had just thumped, thump the ground. I looked back and Sammy had a pool ball in his hand and an amazed look on his face. “Damn” he said “That fucker was gonna hit you with a cue”. That was about all the discussing we did, as this was obviously time to exit. After an adrenaline-filled run through the alleys we stopped and I asked him “What the fuck just happened?” “I told you mothafucker that mothafucker was gonna hit you with a pool cue. I think I broke his skull” “No” I said, “I saw him he was OWT out but his head was OK”. “I hit him with the fuckin’ cue ball BAM” Sammy recalled, “He just laid right the fuck down”. “No shit” I agreed, “Just out of curiosity, you don’t happen to know where the fuck we are do you?” We both looked around and it was apparent that we were in Korea but as to where no clue.

AJ (LC The Humble Devildog) Garin from The People’s Democratic Republic of Madison, WI writes:

Reading all of your comments by Air Farce, Army, and Navy veterans has compelled me, a humble Marine (no such thing) to chime in.
1. The Air Force does have the highest ASVAB requirements… they are the same as the Marines. The Marines are the hardest branch to get into because you have to be very smart AND strong AND tough AND just a touch crazy. The average Marine enlisted man when I was in (1989-1992) had 3 years of college, more than Army officers! And that includes people like me, for whom Boot Camp was my higher education. (btw, only Marines go to Boot Camp, all the others go to basic training)
2. The Marines have a heated rivalry with the Navy that goes back to before this country was even official, but the Marines and the Army have actually exchanged fire with each other, during a time of war, in a combat zone, on the front lines, ON PURPOSE! The two regiments in question had to be pulled off the front line during a heightened alert to keep them from trying to kill each other. It happened during WWII, I believe it was during the battle of Guadalcanal, but it might have happened later. I have read several accounts of the incident, but the US Government tries to discourage research into the incident because it kinda makes the Army look bad.
3. The US Navy is the only branch of the US military that is older than the Marines, and the Royal Marines of the UK are the only Marine Corps that is older than the US Marine Corps. The US Navy was officially formed in the first half of 1775 (I don’t remember the date because I don’t consider the start up date for a taxi service to be important), while the US Marine Corps was formed by an act of the Continental Congress on November 10, 1775 (Veterans Day falls the next day). The United States of America was not even formed until 1790 at the earliest, and the US Army was not formed until 1796. So the Marines kinda view the Army as the (somewhat retarded) younger brother who tries so hard to impress his older brother, but always seems to wind up falling of his face in the process. As all big brothers must do, when the little brother fails, we have to go in and pick him up, dust him off, and show him how it’s really done.
4. Just because Marines charge machine-guns for a living, does not mean they are stupid, but it is a good indication.
5. This Marine’s feelings on the other branches:
a. Army stands for Ain’t Ready for the Marines Yet.
b. We like the Navy… they give us rides.
c. It’s too easy to pick on the Air Force, no challenge in it. They’re Boy Scouts with planes.
6. When I was in the Middle East for Desert Shield/Storm/Saber, I had to make a trash run. We had to take all of the trash our company had generated over the past 4 weeks to the dump to, well, dump. While we were there, we ran into a trash detail from the Air Force. We compared living conditions. The Air Force pukes were telling us that their conditions were brutal because there was only enough hot water on the base for everyone to take only one hot shower a day… their second shower had to be a cold one. We only had enough water to drink… no showers, or laundry, or shaving with water (yes, we still shaved, just not as often). I wanted to punch the pukes. The only consolation was that our trash detail was 2 non-rate enlisted men (E-3 or lower, of which I was one), and a Corporal to goof off with us, er, make sure we didn’t goof off, while their detail was 1 Sergeant (equal to a Corporal in the Marine Corps/Army), 1 Staff Sergeant, and 1 Master Technical Sergeant… they were the most junior men in their unit! In the Marines, Sergeants DO NOT DO trash details, that’s what they have us Lance Corporals for.
7. The only thing you need to know about the Marines is that we guarantee it will be destroyed overnight, or the next one’s free.
P.S. Buck the Marine couldn’t be more of a Marine unless he lost the ability to speak and grunted all his responses. And Marine is ALWAYS capitalized, even when referring to the Royal Marines. The 3 significant Marine Corps are the US Marines, the Royal Marines of the UK, and the Naval Spestnaz of the former USSR. I do not know if the third one still exists, because there was such a small number of them that they were inconsequential. The Republic of Korea also has a Marine Corps, which, while very small, is mentioned in some Bibles in the 11th commandment “Thou shalt not fuck with ROK Marines, for an ass-beating shall soon commence, and thou shall be on the receiving end”. They are very tough, very mean, and very well trained. (they get ALOT of live fire training… with live targets…their main job is fighting North Korean infiltrators)

Christine from Foley, AL writes:

I had to relate an experience I had at BMTS (Lackland AFB, San Antonio, TX). It was in August…HOT, HOT, HOT!!! Anyway, it was towards the end of the six weeks ‘basic training’ (of course the AF has the ‘smarts’…why go to 8 weeks or more of boot camp when you can get it over with in just 6?), and it was the weekend. We were relatively ‘free’ from our TIs, although we did have work to do. The group I was with was assigned to set up a water cannon to spray over a vast expanse of lawn. (Remember, it was August, and HOT, HOT, HOT! Have to keep those AF bases looking green and lush…must continue to make other branches envious). We had the hose hooked up to the hydrant, but couldn’t get the water started. I guess only 6 weeks of training wasn’t enough to build up our muscles…or else, as women, we were waiting for some of those good-looking Marines to come by and help us! We really enjoyed watching them as they did their PT, blasting “Proud to be an American” on their boomboxes. (Sniff, brings a tear to my eye…patriotism and gorgeous men all wrapped up in one package). Anyway, as we struggled in the heat, a TI from our neighboring flight drove by and saw the problem. So of course he pulls up, parks next to the lawn, and proceeds to come over and chew us out. He then shows us exactly how to get the hydrant opened….it opened alright. But, he forgot to notice that the water cannon was aimed directly at his vehicle….and remember, it was HOT, HOT, HOT, so he had the windows down in his car. The water blasted through one car window at out the other. Thank God I was third generation military….(Granddad was an early Navy pilot on the original aircraft carriers when they still had wooden decks, and Dad was a navigator on the JFK). So I kept my military bearing (i.e. I kept very still, made myself very small, and made NO movement that might be interepreted as the beginning of chuckling, guffawing, or ROFLMAO!) The TI turned off the water as fast as he could. We stood there, fearing the worst. The TI stood there, fists clinched, his face turning red, and then purple. What fate awaited us, what punishment would befall us?????!!!!! Absolutely nothing. The TI ignored us, walked to his car and opened his door. Some water poured out, splashing his feet. He got in and drove away, without looking at us. As soon as he was out of sight, we were ROTFLOAO!!!!!! Had this been the Marines, we still would have been doing push-ups or cleaning latrines or God knows what. I have related this story to my kids, and so far, only one is thinking about the AF (he tends to want to take the easy way out). One other son is thinking about being a Navy pilot, and the third, the toughest, most stubborn of the bunch, wants to become a Marine, of course. I do have a daughter, who doesn’t want to join, but then, she’s probably thinking about all the men in uniform that her brothers will be around….does anybody know a good convent school I can lock her in until she is about 35? Just kidding. I am proud of ALL the branches of the United States military. (After all, the Marines are just a department of the Navy….the MEN’s department!!!! Just kidding, Dad and Granddad. I am proud to have been a Navy brat, proud to have had a brother in the Army, and proud to have been in the Air Force/Texas Air National Guard.)
Thank you for your site, Frank. My husband and I enjoy your humor and intelligence….you would have been an awesome Marine or a kick-ass Navy pilot….and with your viewpoints, Rummy might have chosen you to be his aide and heir….America has really missed out with that.
P.S. Bring back “Nuke the Moon” T-shirts, please, please, please!!!!!!!

Even my mom is nagging me on that one. Well, if all the nagging is any indication, maybe I can sell another batch.
As for the military, I’ve serious considered joining the Air Force a number of time (when I started college and the National Guard after 9/11) but never went through with it.


I have a backlog of more to put up, but keep it coming. If you have military experience (first-hand or second-hand) I’d love to hear more jokes and anecdotes. E-mail me with the subject “Military”. A big thanks to everyone who has sent in e-mails already.

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  1. Jim,
    I feel sorry for the Army. They have to put up with chickenshit assclowns like you and your bunk buddy.
    I was at Osan from 1992-1993. What’s the problem? Your shithole of Camp Humphreys not good enough?
    When I was there during Foal Eagle the Marines went downtown looking to pursue some activities. They found the airman from the gym (not a big guy, about 160 dripping wet) and proceded to beat the shit out of him ’cause he was ‘Chair Force.’
    Well, needless to say, a guy who works at a gym just MIGHT have a few rather large friends who frequent his place of employment. The next day his friends pay the Marines a visit and ensure that they got to tour the emergency room.
    Unlike you, Jim, and your cowardly spunk chugging best buddy, the Marines actually didn’t run. I’ll bet my retirement check that your Neanderthal bed-mate started the whole thing because the Airman probably asked him to spell CAT without spotting him the C and the T.

  2. I’m getting a little sick of all this “the AF is just boy scouts with planes” business.
    When my grandfather was in the AF in the 1960s, his job as a helicopter pilot was to fly the Green Berets into Places They Weren’t Supposed To Be, and drop them off. Then he’d come to pick them up later, and if they weren’t there, he had to leave. Maybe he didn’t go charging straight into the cannon’s mouth, guns a-blazin’, but that’s no reason to belittle his experiences (or the experiences of his fellow AFers).
    The way I see it, someone who constantly puts down the other branches must not feel very secure about the worth of his own.
    And for the record, I’ve got relatives in the Army, Navy, and National Guard, and friends who are going into the Marines and Coast Guard.

  3. AJ:
    The US Army was organized on June 14th, 1775, making it senior among the services.
    Army officers are required to have 4-year college degrees, as are the officers of the other services.
    You might try getting your info from someplace other than a USMC propaganda mill.

  4. Regarding USAF…
    My uncle is a fighter pilot who went on every Iraq deployment save the most recent. He spent Gulf War I in an air-conditioned hotel room and is the first to tell you he wasn’t exactly roughing it. They spend a lot of money training those guys to fly really expensive planes.

  5. Martin,
    Negative on the officer/degree front. The Navy has a program called LDO (Limited Duty Officer). Yes, it seems like an oxymoron, but the two that I worked for in the Joint Forces Command were no slouches.

  6. Anyone every hear of the Bataan Death March? Well, my mother’s uncle lived through it. He was in the Army Air Corps and retired as a Chief Master Sergeant. He told me not to enlist in the Air Force back in ’83. Now that I’ve put my 20 in and retired he (along with the rest of my family) couldn’t be more proud. Times do change.

  7. El Jefe, there are plenty of DVDs about the Bataan Death March. I have only seen the one with Susan Sarandon, and… well, hell it was war. But there had not been any woman prisoner also if the story is about the courage of the nurses on the front.
    “As all big brothers must do, when the little brother fails, we have to go in and pick him up, dust him off, and show him how it’s really done.”
    That’s probably the main difference between the Marines and the army.

  8. –Frank, one thing all of our military has in common is the right attitude. We all know the deal on why we’re in and we all carry heavy pride in our country. I was just coerced into watching Oprah because she was having a special on military personnel who were injured in Iraq. Very sad stuff… missing limbs, 3rd degree burns over entire body, etc. Anyway, Oprah was in the hospital interviewing these guys and one of them (an Army Sergeant) told her that he was very proud to have served his country and he would do it again in a heartbeat. She was surprised at that… he then told her that any of them would. She then went around and asked them all. Then she said (and here’s why we have a huge problem with the “elite” in this country) that she was VERY surprised to find out that they, indeed, did all express the exact same sentiment. One young soldier, who used to be a track star, was missing both legs and he told her straight up that he would go and do it again right now. She was surprised and most of the people who are disconnected with the real America would also be surprised that young, healthy people would have such great attitudes after being permanently and horribly disfigured and maimed. I personally think that they are so shocked because the thought of such selfless sacrifice is a completely alien concept to them. I’m not upset with Oprah… in fact, God bless her for doing such a show… but why does it have to be “surprise”? Why not “pride”? Or “understanding”? Have we really come to this? Is it really such a strange thing that we still have honest-to-God patriots and good people in this country? I just heard that twelve more of my brothers died today in that piss hole. Know what, though? It wasn’t for nothing… I guarantee you that it mattered to them.

  9. Devil Dog, well said, very well said. It’s a shame that so many Americans don’t understand, but I believe that when you come face to face with that kind of pride and commitment, you don’t dismiss it easily.

  10. Thank you for that post Devil Dog.
    AJ, the Navy was formed 13 Oct 1775. The Marines, however are actually the senior service. Following the Revolution, the Navy and Marine Corp were both ordered to stand down. The Navy complied, but 3 Marines in a bar somewhere in New England refused to; they kept the Corps going during the interim.
    My NROTC CO tricked us all when he asked us which service was senior, Navy or Marine Corps. We’re required to know the birthdates of both branches, so naturally we all said the Navy. Then he hit us with that explanation.

  11. Fer F***s Sake,
    I wrote the lead giggle for military IV assuming it was understood we wer all ripping on each other, which is our well-earned right as , well at least me and my rum and coke (nectar of the gods) drinking homo buddies as-
    “ramp-jumpin’, door-kickin-, slim-waisted, barrel-chested, dacron-coated, titanium-filled, freedom fighters guaranteed never to rust, bust or collect dust.
    Much Love to anyone who served. Any service any time any place.
    Cordially,
    Jim

  12. Fer F***s Sake,
    I wrote the lead giggle for military IV assuming it was understood we wer all ripping on each other, which is our well-earned right as , well at least me and my rum and coke (nectar of the gods) drinking homo buddies as-
    “ramp-jumpin’, door-kickin-, slim-waisted, barrel-chested, dacron-coated, titanium-filled, freedom fighters guaranteed never to rust, bust or collect dust.
    Much Love to anyone who served. Any service any time any place.
    Cordially,
    Jim

  13. I like the AFROTC “basic training”. It’s not even that, it’s called “field training” (of course, because most of your training occurs during your 3/4 years in college). But we call it “camp”. Because while it’s a little difficult, it’s only 4 weeks long.
    It may get even easier too, and I don’t like this part…
    According to the new guidelines…
    1) You cannot be yelled at, insulted, or demeaned
    2) You cannot be punished with things like push-ups (PD is now forbidden)
    3) You cannot be singled out for making a mistake.
    WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE?
    We FINALLY got a ‘warrior culture’ thing to start-up (more PT, higher standards) and now we’re doing this? Sigh
    And don’t get me started on the #$%^ing new PFT standards either.

  14. That is one of the things I hate about my beloved Air Force is the damn ‘Time Out’ card.
    I wonder if they recognize them in Fallujah?
    To all that have served, are serving and those that support us: MAY THE BEST DAYS OF YOUR PAST BE THE WORST DAYS OF YOUR FUTURE

  15. So the Navy is a “taxi service”, heh? I guess thats why Marine stands for “My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment”. Not many Marines in my paternal lineage (mostly AF/Army), but my maternal lineage has quite a few. Guess it won’t be settled until the Marines get a frickin football team! Go ARMY (go further); Go Air Force (go easy); Go Navy (get wetter); Go Jar Heads, oops…Go Marines (“Huh, where do we go?” – Where you’re told and toted!)
    God, I love this country!

  16. Anonymous,
    So the US didn’t exist til 1883? Well, even according to your logic, the US existed in at least 1781. The US Army (the first military branch!) was formed June 14, 1775… independence declared July 4, 1776 (as everyone knows- or at least should)… Articles of Confederation agreed to by Congress November 15, 1777, ratified and in force March 1, 1781… and lastly, Constitution ratified by all states by May 29, 1790 and in effect March 4, 1789. Hate to get all anal, but gotta get some sh*t straight!

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