It’s Monday, so time for another diary saying that a war with Iran is about to happen “really really super soon!” to make the top of the recommended list on Daily Kos.
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How would we do that, though? Do we have enough troops at the ready? I guess we could declare “we’ve decided to leave Iraq” one day and move all the troops out of there and right into Iran.
Now, if we’ve decided occupations are too messy and we don’t care about rebuilding, how many troops would it take to totally @#$% Iran in a non-nuclear way? If we wanted to just go in there, blow up a bunch of crap, and leave, I don’t think that really takes a lot of manpower. I mean, the mission objective will just be “destroy lots of stuff” and that’s what our military does better than anyone else in the world. It’s the stuff afterwards that takes all the time and people. If we decided that, after Iraq, countries can rebuild themselves, I think that makes things a lot simpler.
“Won’t that just make them mad and have them come back after us when they rebuild?” some ask. The answer is: Maybe. But they’ll be much weaker. And then we can just wash, rinse, and repeat. Easy-Peasy.
So, if things are looking bad with Iran — such as more proof they’re supplying weapons against our troops in Iraq — we just threaten them that we’re going to kick the crap out of them. We’re not going to install a new government — the citizen can do that themselves if they want — but if they cause more trouble, we’ll come back and kick the crap out of them again, and the second time will be even easier.
Now, I’m not a military expert — I just play one on my blog — but am I missing anything? Wouldn’t that be pretty simple? If people are horrified by that, they can go over themselves and help out in humanitarian ways — it just won’t be the military’s job. Our military is not going to be liked by most countries, so why try? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think most people signed up to the military because they wanted hugs.
Maybe the gay ones did. Just a guess since we can’t ask.
“…wash, rinse, and repeat” on the “hot water” cycle with high agitation.
And don’t forget the “dryer.” That one’s on “high heat” so all their military infrastructure gets burned.
Or alternately, “hang ’em out to dry.”
FrankJ, who do you think you are? Jane Fonda? Whatcha got against nuclear?
“Now, if we’ve decided occupations are too messy and we don’t care about rebuilding, how many troops would it take to totally @#$% Iran in a non-nuclear way?”
“FrankJ, who do you think you are? Jane Fonda? Whatcha got against nuclear?”
FrankJ, you have changed. It’s like…..I dont know who you are anymore. Next you wont want to Nuke the Moon.
The answer to your question about is it possible to defeat Iran in a force on force battle under current military conditions/ obligations is (in my opinion) yes.
in any battle field, the most important aspect is air superiority. Their air force is made up of crapy MIG fighters and aging un-repairable F14 Tomcats (a gift to the Shaw from us). Without proper training, these would fall victim to our highly trained F22 and F15 pilots.
Iran’s ground vehicle’s consist of Soviet type armaments. (T90 tanks, BMP’s BTRM). These vehicles have historically easily been bested when confronted with our vehicles. (M1 series tanks, LAV’s, Even M2 Bradley)
The other real unknown is soldier discipline. The Iraqi army folded because of poor living conditions, sub standard training, and general disgust for Saddam. The Quads force seems to have shown themselves as an effective organization. The question is this an exception or the rule for their military.
Also the Iranian people are something to think about. The current belief is the people are currently unhappy about their government, that could change if we invade.
My solution, Heavily arm the Kurds and tell them to have fun with Iran. Everyone wins.
Yes the could be bigger bastards and Yes they should…. YES WE CAN!
Well, Frank, it seems that you did not get my previous comment. You might want to check the month of april and the ridiculous one about your gay fantasy spiderman and some lizard that you probably “took from behind.” I know that the site is called in your arrogant opinion, but in my opinion, you are a loser who needs to get a life and stop wasting your time sitting in front of a computer jerking off under the table your parents bought you with the scooby doo chair. If this really offends you, then I am truly sorry…though if that happends, hit me, cause I got some brain damage. Toodles!!!!!!!!!
Billy Jane…
Your parents are closely related, right? We don’t judge. It happens. But you obviously have no point to your postings. If you have a problem with Frank, he graciously made an entire area for your comments with the rest of our thoughts of your inane rant.
Maybe you should ask your Brother/Paw how to use the computer.
In recognition of Cinco de Mayo… Si Se Puede!
It takes all the fun out of bombing them back to the 7th century, but they’d probably be grateful to be given the opportunity to practice true Islam, without having all of that wicked kafir technology around.
Billy Jane:
Who really has no life? is it the guy that has nothing to do but write, or the person that has nothing to do but read the writings.
billy jane = organic brain disease
or,
she’s got the hots for FrankJ !
Intersting, I didnt know this was the “IMAO if its Ok with you Billy Jane site”, designed and maaintained for the sole pleasure of Billy Jane (a subsidiary of Jaggoffs International) I thought is was just plain ole IMAO. But then again, I’ve been wrong before. What I really want to know…. Where can I get one of them realy cool Scooby Doo chairs for my desk? Somehow envisioning Frank writing this stuff while sitting in a Scooby Doo chair seems appropiate…. now if it was a Nancy Drew chair …well that would be teh gay.
No, Frank is being smart and loves the troops. Remember that we have troops in Iraq and Iraq is right next door to Iran. Nuking Iran would risk getting icky glowing nuke cooties on our own guys.
Besides, don’t troops LIKE blowing crap up? Why let one bomber crew have all the fun when we could use Iran as a big ol live fire training exercise? There is no excuse for denying the troops the pure joy of a few weeks of mindless violence, safe in the knowledge they wouldn’t be responsible for rebuilding all the stuff they blow up, unlike Iraq.
Let’s see…we kicked Sadam’s ass in 2 weeks. Sadam fought Iran to a draw in 8 years. Our weapons are even more awesome now (F-22 Raptor). I’d say we kick their asses in 1 week, give or take a couple of hours! Massive B52 bombing raids would seem appropriate! Why waste the good stuff on these dill weeds!
‘Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:
“With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again.”
Rev. 18:21
If we really meant it this time, I’d say 4 days and then a long weekend. It’s Miller time!
P.S. Billy Jane reminds me of a 12 year old writing dirty words and pictures on the inside of a porta-potty at the circus. He’s buzzed on cotton candy and thinks he’s being really daring; but his inability to spell or draw and his complete cluelessness regarding anatomy will be a source of amusement to some and of cool pity to others. His comments may be a desperate cry for help. He has one positive attribute however – Everyone else on this site seems stable and mature by comparison!
What do you mean by ‘the citizens can rebuild for themselves’?
Why are we leaving any people alive?
Funny…or frightening there’s a “guy” (we’re not 100% sure ourselves)…who has been tormenting Yahoo’s Military chat rooms, ranting in a way that very closely resembles BillyJane’s rhetoric and BS.
BillyJane, can you simply answer: Have you ever claimed to be in law enforcement? Up to & including mall-trawler/rent-a-cop.
Thanks…PS None of us really care what you say or think, we’re here for Frank.
Sometimes I wonder if the trolls we get here on IMAO are all the same person, or do they just vary their writing style slightly and Bob’s you uncle, new troll.
After all most of the can’t spell or use spellchecker apparently, have a precarious handle on punctuation, eschew syntax and looooooooooove to use extended spelling as well as creative capitalization. So the thought is, are they educated folks trying to disguise their prose or ignorant rubes who are lucky if they can read the back of their cereal boxes.
Of course they are inherently funny. They can’t help themselves. The moronic ravings of the terminally deranged can’t help but be entertaining, so rave on.
The main difference between our Fearless Leader and trolls is that he means to be funny (which is harder), he’s not just funny on accident.
Drat, I knew I’d find a mistake after I posted “most of them”.
The other difference between us and trolls is we admit when we make mistakes.
My bad.
Drat, I knew I’d find a mistake after I posted “most of them”.
The other difference between us and trolls is we admit when we make mistakes.
My bad.
I can not buy a break today. SORRY
I still say that we should give Israel a blank check and carte blanche as to what they do with it. Our M.E. problems would soon be over. Can I get a hell yeah?
I think my idea get the job done with the least chance for casualties, if they force us to spank them, we put a cruise missile on every wellhead in Iran.(I mean every single one)
The same goes for every storage facility, as well as any port capable of importing gasoline.
They will be too busy eating each other to bother the rest of the world.
With Iran, we only need to block fuel imports. As I understand it, they have little or no refining capability. The problem with this, however, is that the Iranian people may kill Ahmedinejad before we can. That just spoils the fun for us.
Yeah, I am really the immature one guys. 4 of 7: a 12 year old writng words on a port a potty buzzed on cotton candy…you’re the spokesperson for maturity…and maybe you need the cry for help. To the other responses I am not in law enforcement. Billy Jane is simple not who I am..it is merely a fake identity and I must say this: I do not have the hots for Frank; I thoroughly enjoyed his facts about Vermont; and that day I was extremely bored. But seriously, I apoligize if this offended you Frank and any of his followers. If I can’t spell, it’s cause I try to type way too fast.
juggernaut…hell yeah!!!!!! and billy jane…you are just plain stupid. everyone knows that frankj likes aquaman…not scooby doo. what a troll you are bj.
BJ – appology accepted. Dismissed.