Illegal immigration is a controversial topic. Though it shouldn’t be.
I’m in favor of immigration. Heck, my ancestors came to this country … before it was a country. They were immigrants. Hundreds of years ago, to be sure, but immigrants, nonetheless.
Same for everyone who calls the U.S. home.
But, today? Yes, I’m all in favor of people immigrating to this country. In fact, there’s an immigration process. Every civilized nation on earth has an immigration process.
It’s illegal immigration that I don’t like.
But so many on the left get their panties in a wad if anyone opposes illegal immigration.
They seem to forget that illegal immigration is … well, illegal. But when did laws matter to them? Unless it’s a law to ban guns. They want them laws followed.
Anyway, they say to let the illegals alone. They’re doing jobs that Americans don’t want.
I don’t doubt it.
But, the L.A. Times reports that over 10% of Californians are out of work.
Unemployment in California shot up to its highest level in nearly 26 years in January, leaving more than 1 in 10 workers without a job.
Figures released Friday show that 79,300 jobs were lost in the state last month, bringing the total number of unemployed to 1,863,000, or 10.1% of the workforce. That’s the highest since the rate touched 10.4% in 1983.
I’ve been out of work. But, I didn’t sit on my ass. I found work.
I worked temporary construction jobs. I’ve worked at temp agencies. I’ve stood in line at the Department of Labor, filling out forms and getting lists of jobs.
I was turned down for some jobs because I was “over-qualified,” which means they figured I’d have worked until I found a better job.
Bottom line is, I didn’t sit on my ass; I went to work. And I found work.
There’s work in California. It might not be pleasant work, but work seldom is.
And, the work might be currently done by an illegal alien.

Thank you Basil ! I want to express my gratitude that there is not yet ANOTHER story by Frank here involving SCATalogical references such as the one concerning paper versus fabric doo doo cleanup. Frank seems to be obsessed with this type of humor! Frankly all the references to feces where starting to creep me out.
[But I did say “ass.” Twice. – B]
I guess so butt not enough to come close to the master of this poop genre Frank!
But, baby, I’m too proud to work at McDonald’s. I’m goin’ on welfare!
Turn off the free healthcare and the jobs and illegal immigration goes away. I read a million illegals went back to Mexico due to lack of jobs last year. Only 11 mm more to go.
Moved from my home in southern California to western NY 3 years ago. Amazingly, the lawns get mowed, restaurants have dishwashers, hotels & hospitals have housekeeping staff, and plenty of food service workers abound without employing illegal immigrants. The argument in Southern Cali was if illegals were forced to go home to Mexico – no one would do the more menial labor jobs. Not true.
California has 10% unemployment because they are taxing all the businesses till they go out of state.
And I’m all for legal immigration too, but I also think you shouldn’t have to hire an immigration lawyer to understand the paperwork. They need to make it simple to immigrate, so that there’s nothing to be gained by immigrating illegally.
California…….What a sad and pathetic joke it has become….today it’s just a character of what it once was. Now it’s just another Democrat run cesspool, as over taxed and broke as the the other Democrat run cesspools such as New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, etc. but with better weather and an almost professional class of money grubbing whiners and snivelers constantly asking for more. It’s almost to the point where….If it were standing on it’s own….it would qualify for the title “third world country.” It’s a state where political correctness rules….and common sense is a rare commodity. Where urban gangs run the neighborhoods and the police are powerless to stop them. California is leading the rush to left wing nirvana with politicians like Maxine Waters, Barbra Boxer, Henry Waxman, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, and George Miller. God knows how many more left wing morons will come out of this state before all is said and done. Unfriendly to business (which is the life blood of any economy) and with a population made up of almost as many people with their hands out as there are working taxpayers to fill those hands. It has an insatiable appetite for money, and bleeds it’s taxpayers for as much as it can get and then tells them it needs more. Just take a close look at California and you can see exactly where this country is headed.
Dear Mr zzyzx: please remove almost from your phrase:
** an almost professional class of money grubbing whiners and snivelers **
They have taken graft / corruption / nepotism / nimby to artistic heights no one sane could have ever foreseen. What scares me is its a big enough statistical sample to suggest this is a naturally occuring component of human personality. OUCH !!! …. It makes me wonder where it all ends up? Maybe just where we are with the welfare state crashing down around our ears.
…and studies show that people don’t find jobs until their unemployment benefits are about over. So, extending unemployment benefits will simply keep people unemployed longer. I own a fast food restaurant, and I’ve never had so many applications as this past two months. Work is work, and work is honorable.
Its so true, you may be over-qualified and not get hired for middle of the road jobs, but McDonalds won’t turn anyone away, they don’t care about turnover that much. Picking fruit – same there.
I would bet that if you took out illegals (about 15 million of them) that our unemployment would be near 3%. Underemployment would certainly be higher, but a job is better than no job, and unless you are a Liberal, better than welfare.
Moved from my home in southern California to western NY 3 years ago
Really? I’m in Amherst near UB. Awesome to see yet another WNYer here!
Restaurant jobs: Frank will be glad no one mentioned e coli in the food in said restaurants!
California is the canary in the coal mine, and it’s dying. The point however is that the Obama administration is going to learn nothing from it. They’re going to take the entire USA down the same shaft as the canary, and at warp speed.
The stupid bastards are going to repeat the mistakes of the great depression….., ‘tax the rich’, and go at least partially protectionist. A high school kid being taught history would understand this is economic suicide. un****believable.
I can only conclude they are intentionally trying to put capitalism out of business as soon as possible, and nationalize all major and necessary industry. Banks, Wall Street, US Autos, Airlines, HEALTH CARE,.. Energy will be taxed into oblivion with this cap and trade BS. Watch and see if the Homebuilders aren’t the next ones up on the block along with major sections of the food industry. Everything a person needs to survive under significant government control. And the kids and Obama suporters don’t see anything wrong with it. I talk to em all the time.
I’ll bet the Canadian PM ripped Obama a new one when he was up there btw.
Obama is incompetent along with at least 80% of his cabinet. 4 years…. Kiss it goodbye folks.
Basil,
You are one among the silent champions of a capitalistic society, and should be DAMN PROUD! I worked a full-time job (as a fry-cook no less) 10pm- 5:30am Mon.- Sat, AND went to a community college FULL-TIME for a solid year. My job was 2 miles from my apt., and school was 3.5 miles from apt. in the other direction. I was fresh out of the Marine Corp. and my only mode of transportation was a 10 speed bicycle. Did I mention I live in Indiana? Riding a 10 speed in the snow is neither fun, nor terribly effective at times, but I endured. NO-ONE ELSE was going to care for me!
I’m of German/Irish decent, yes I too am the product of immigrants. LEGAL IMMIGRANTS! Legalities are the key. You’re right to say the left does NOT care about the law anymore than to figure a way around it. Unless, of course you mention the SECOND AMENDMENT, then laws must be followed by the letter.
I was a GOOD cub scout (“Be prepared”), and refined some specialty skills in my time in service. My powder is all dry, and my arsenal grows by the day. I don’t advocate ANY type of uprising, but I think I see one coming anyway, and I for one will be ready.
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is a HUGE problem in this country today, but not the only one. Out of control spending by congress, “bailing-out” banks and the auto industries, repealing the Bush tax cuts, and the list goes on. Washington does not seem to want to represent their constituents anymore.
RESPONSIBLE people, who are not AFRAID of work, are what has kept this nation great for more than 200 years. I just hope I’m not witnessing the beginning of the end of this great “experiment in democracy”.
Dormant U.S. Marine Semper Fidelis
NRA Patron-Life member
On the other hand,
Don’t be an “early bird”
I hear they get worms!
Ever wonder why we have fat lazy children laying around the house playing video games? Could it be beause millions of ILLEGAL ailiens are doing the low paying entry level jobs that our kids once filled?When I was a kid every local buisiness hired at least one teen to do odd work,Now 99% of those jobs are filled by ILLEGALS. Git rid of the illegals in this country and a host of other problems will solve themselves.
I can believe it, I both hate and love this state so much. I can’t wait to go off to Idaho for 5 years of college this year to get a vacation from Socialism. Although I can’t complain about our Representative Devin Nunes(yes, this is gloating).
“There was nothing left that could conquer Rome; but there was also nothing left that could improve it. It was the strongest thing that was growing weak. It was the best thing that was going to the bad.
… The peoples had pooled their resources and still there was not enough. The empires had gone into partnership and they were still bankrupt.
… I fancy there entered at this point a new negation. Atheism became really possible in that abnormal time; for atheism is abnormality. It is not merely the denial of a dogma. It is the reversal of a subconscious assumption in the soul; the sense that there is a meaning and direction in the world it sees.
… It was something in the sense of impotence and despair with which men shook their fists vainly at the stars, as they saw all the best work of humanity sinking slowly and helplessly into a swamp. They could easily believe that even creation itself was not a creation but a perpetual fall, when they saw that the weightiest and worthiest of all human creations was falling by its own weight.
… There was no God; if there had been a God, surely this was the very moment when He would have moved and saved the world.
… The members of some Eastern sect or secret society or other seemed to have made a scene somewhere; nobody could imagine why. The incident occurred once or twice again and began to arouse irritation out of proportion to its insignificance. It was not exactly what these provincials said; though of course it sounded queer enough. They seemed to be saying that God was dead and that they themselves had seen him die. This might be one of the many manias produced by the despair of the age; only they did not seem particularly despairing.
… Men used to many mythologies and moralities could make no analysis of the mystery, except the curious conjecture that they meant what they said.”
– G.K. Chesterton, The Everlasting Man, Part 1, Chapter 8, The End of the World.
Wait, it gets better.
Last time I checked, California has the FITH largest economy in the world. Far cry from a “third world nation” as described by zzyzzzzzzzzz zzzzz zzzz zzzzzz, oops sorry, I fell asleep. Must be all of the pot I smoke.
[Oh, California has a large economy? Then the 10% unemployment rate is just fine then, right? I assume you’ll be moving there soon? – B]
I want immigration to be reformed in the following way:
1) Anyone who isn’t on a restriction list (terrorists etc) can come in
2) Anyone coming in must present identification. We will take finger prints and a DNA sample
3) Immigrants must report in regularly so we can keep tabs
4) Able-bodied citizens who have never held a grown-up job by the age of thirty and still live with room mates or parents will be deported
That last part is important in order to maintain balance
..”California has the fifth largest economy in the world…” AND THEY’RE STILL BROKE %@*^&’n idiots can’t do anything right (conservatively)
Is it any wonder with the likes of Feinstein, and Pelosi in charge.
I reiterate, %@^&’n idiots can’t do anything right!
It’s no fun being an illegal alien.
FWIW, it’s not fifth, it’s ninth, in a dead heat with Italy. So there’s old Italy, still pumping out Ferraris and Lambos, super-thread count fabric and the stuff sewn out of it, leather that’s almost worth what the fashion houses charge. Plus a little high-class graphics programming and nuclear engineering. And California The Jewel of Western Civilisation gives us shit shit shit shit shit and, on Sunday, a little more shit. Did I mention the shit.
California is a port of convenience for China, and a hole to dump all the water that would otherwise be used in Colorado, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico and Arizona. To hell with California. Shut off the water, stop giving them oil and electricity. Boycott avocados. And don’t let them out, either. What a great movie that’ll make. Should gross 40 mil the first weekend.
California has nothing we want or need. It has turned itself into a sucking, festering wound on the body of the republic. Tie it off like a tumor, and let it shrivel and die.
See, the problem is we get the issue wrong. Its not really about illegal immigration, per se, but the black market for labor. Why a black market? the same reason all black markets exist: to get around regulation. in this particular case, to get around the minimum wage. Now, of course in creating a black market, most legal residents want nothing to do with the black market for labor, so they are overwhelmingly illegal immigrants, but that is what this is really about: getting around onerous regulation.
Just remember that little bit of hypocrisy the next time the dems claim to be for regulation. they built their own loophole.
(From an astute but unknown source…)
Six surgeons from big cities are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on.
The first surgeon, from New York , says, “I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.”
The second, from Chicago , responds, “Yeah, but you should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded.”
The third surgeon, from Dallas , says, “No, I really think librarians are the best, everything inside them is in alphabetical order”
The fourth surgeon, from Los Angeles chimes in: “You know, I like construction workers…Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over.”
The fifth surgeon, from Washington , DC shut them all up when he observed: “You’re all wrong. Politicians are the easiest to operate on. There’s no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains and no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable.
But the last surgeon had them all beat when he noted that illegal aliens had untraceable body parts and will sell them for cash. The D.C. surgeon (who is Chinese) just smiled.
A little off topic, but knew you all would want to know. Fred Thompson has a new show on podcast:
http://fredthompsonshow.com/
My company just closed its Mexifornia Corporate Office and moved to TN. We got the usual corporate blah, blah, blah about why. The reason is they want to reduce their overhead. Must be a big savings for the big wiggs to move from the LA area. Take that Arnold!
They shouldn’t worry, all those illegal, illiterate socialists will bring them out of this.
Just couldn’t happen to better people. Sanctuary cities, lax border enforcement, nanny state, give’m everything. The big problem is, that one will give them OUR money to sustain their sorry communist arses.
So if we just fed them illegal for 2 or three meals, that would be their job, and ta da, unemployment goes down.
the illegal invader! the wasted added cost to each and every american citizen for which if they were not here the economy just might be? the special interest stimulus paid groups who behind the scenes protect this terrible wrong in america today live! COST state of colorado 1.2 billion dollars annually” and only going to rise more each and every year untill enforcement is the LAW? public paid represenatives who support illegal activity in our country? RECALL ANSWER! DRUG TESTING? COST that added cost to each and every american citizen” and the american victims from RAPE! ABDUCTION! MURDER! ID THEFT! CRIME! CRIME! CRIME! 650 billion in health care stimulus for who? we american citizens get ASSISTED SUICIDE centers future? yes sir foreign doctors nurses assisting them suicide centers! the new world culture of the foreign minded only agenda? global NAFTA unfair trade and outsourcing of our jobs and industry gang! bring foreign invaders to work for cheap wages and bring foreign industry to employ them trade? visas bring high tech workers from india for high TECH JOBS? mental health and care 650 billion dollars for who? what? where? U.S.!!!! why know sweatshop labor unions with SECRET BALLOTS VOTING SCAM? foreign union leaders organization? bleed americans taxes for health care and profit on the dues union scam? illegal drivers for car insurance scams? millions of new voters for culture CHANGE? UGLY FOR THE AMERICAN FUTURE AND PROSPECTS STIMULUS SCAM. BILLIONS for the illegal invader army! foreign communities springing up across our sanctuary city country? ghetto’s in the making culture change? crime thats the big one that crime on U.S. by our goverment putting U.S. in harms way of this nightmare of their profit greed agenda. NIGHTMARE! that ugly ugly nightmare future! we gain nothing” we lose period. ” STOP” the nightmare in it’s tracks NOW” TOGEATHER WE ARE A ALL AMERICAN TEAM PERIOD. AMEN.
Perhaps since we have a major illegal invasion problem, and since Obama is all about creating more government workers, and since we have many people (especially in California) who are out of work, the answer is simple:
Hire out-of-work Californians to round up and deport illegal invaders. Once millions are deported, without the massive drain of illegals California’s economy will rebound and the newly hired border agents can return to jobs in the private sector.
California might not be able to afford to pay a large border security force right now.
But if they were willing to legally deputize volunteers – on a spare time, bring your own gear, set your own schedule basis … the results might be interesting.
“We’re formin’ a posse, boys! Saddle your horses; we’ll head’em off at the pass!”
The rest of the Country needs to take a page from AZ. Employer Sanctions started drying up that market like a parched sponge.