With there now being an Episcopalian priest who is also a Muslim (as predicted by Scrappleface) after they already made someone openly gay a Bishop, one has to ask what exactly what would Episcopalian bishops find as a disqualifying factor to be in their clergy? Would they make unapologetic murders and rapists priests? Blasphemers of the Holy Spirit? Do they have a screening process for being a priest, or is there just a card anyone who visits an Episcopal church can fill out and be made a priest (plus be entered in a drawing to be a bishop)?
I’m just asking because I don’t know.
Ron Paul is the last hope for the Episcopalian Church.
I am a little surprised you mentioned the Scrappleface angle, don’t you still hate Scott Ott?
You’re the number one and two hits for “Damn you Scrappleface!”
I am a little surprised you mentioned the Scrappleface angle, don’t you still hate Scott Ott?
You’re the number one and two hits for “Damn you Scrappleface!”
You have to give him credit for making a great joke that eventually became a reality, though.
I’m pretty sure the Bible says that one cannot serve two masters….and I’m also pretty sure the Koran says to kill everyone that’s not Muslim…so her “faith” is not possible. So how can someone be both Muslim and Christian? They are not even the same gods. Obviously she is neither Muslim nor Christian if she believes what she believes…..there are far too many crazy people out there.
“I’m pretty sure the Bible says that one cannot serve two masters….and I’m also pretty sure the Koran says to kill everyone that’s not Muslim…so her “faith” is not possible.”
Either that or she’s suicidal.
Oh come along! It’s perfectly obbious!
You can’t be a priest if you don’t recycle, if you drive an SUV, or if any of your bulbs are not fluorescent.
Ron paul?
You have to give him credit for making a great joke that eventually became a reality, though.
You didn’t even shake your fist at him though.
I’m so disillusioned. Next you’ll be telling me that you actually like spacemonkey’s photoshops.
Turn the other cheek…
…then chop off the infidel’s head!!!!
Patrick Carroll and FormerHostage definitely nailed the most important disqualifications. Some others might be: having held a job that actually created wealth, having voted Republican, or thinking that there are circumstances in which war just might be the moral course of action.
This story did not surprise me at all.
A recent House of Bishops vote declared the Bible anti-Semitic. I kid you not.
The episcopalian message: All must worship Tashlan!
@luminos
Kudos on the C.S. Lewis reference!
If you believe the Nicene Creed you can forget about applying to be a priest in the Episcopal Church.
Ironically, C.S. Lewis was an Anglican, and the Episcopal Church is the American branch of the Church of England.
It’s breath mint!
No it’s a candy!
Two great tastes that taste great together.
Just relax folks, them Epispoaiulians have got this whole thing down !
Should we refer to them now as Epispo — fascists?
There is SO much riffing I can do for this one…
I laugh at the idea, but the Unitarian chuch has already been formed. Someone should tell them.
//”I don’t think it’s possible” to be both, Fredrickson said, just like “you can’t be a Republican and a Democrat.”//
Certain “Republican” presidential aspirants non withstanding…
Redding, of course, uses the analogy of how she is both an idiot and someone who considers herself qualified to tell others how to live as counterevidence that you can be two things without eliciting contradictions
Chalk up one more for the Episcolopians. First women priests, then women bishops, then gay bishops, now Muslim priests. I suppose the Nicene Creed is now considered too exclusive. Pretty soon they’ll dispense with change ringing and send muezzins up to the bell tower: “Now Thank We Allah Aaaaaaaakbaaaar!”
According to the article, she rejects the Trinity, the divinity of Jesus, and original sin. By this admission, she doesn’t qualify as a Christian by any Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Anglican(!), or Evangelical definition. Her beliefs are typical of gnostic New Agers and America’s new national religion of syncretism.
One would think that an Episcopalian seminary would have somehow detected this. If she were a Catholic male who held these beliefs while attempting to enter seminary, he would not have made it through his opening interview. I’d like to hear what devout Muslims have to say.
Apostasy! Its so trendy!
No kidding, Seminarian– how can someone who doesn’t believe Jesus is divine be considered a Christian? (Not to turn this into a discussion of whether Mormons are Christians, but) given that there are some people who don’t believe Mormons qualify as Christians even though they believe in the divinity of Christ, how much less qualified to be a Christian is someone who just thinks Christ was an ordinary guy with some neat ideas?
The Episcopalians need to re-read… well, pretty much the entire Bible.
Wow… Just wow…. Reminds me of the scene in Blazing Saddles where the sheriff takes himself hostage.
Or the Pricipia Discordia where everyone gets a card saying they are the pope.
This is clearly someone who mumbled though the creeds. Every time.
Career options. I guess I’m disqualified for Anglican priesthood by virtue of actually knowing anything about God.
The Episcopalian Church is no longer a follower of Christ so it it’s ok to have muslims, witches or even a few satan worshipers if they want. The more the merrier. If one doesn’t believe in anything than everything is possible! Idiots! If you are in the church…get out!
You just can’t make this stuff up! Well, even if you do, apparently, fiction become fact. Eerie.
She doesn’t try to explain the fundamental differences between Christianity and Islam because her brain would melt making a logical case.
The whole Christian doctrine is based on the saving nature of Jesus Christ, which she’s denied. That put an end the question of whether she’s a Christian or not. Blah!
I love her paranoia of white folks, too. She can only feel accepted if everyone looks like her.
Something that amuses me, especially in light of Seminarian’s comments is a story I heard when at softball practice with my brother Catholic Seminarians. (Well, technically I haven’t been accepted yet.)
Apparently, a young man had applied and this application was “on the fence.” He told the Director of Vocations (the Bishops point man for finding candidates), “Don’t worry if my application is rejected. I spoke with an Imam a few days ago, and he says if you reject me, he can probably get me into a Muslim school.”
The application was dropped that day.
People complain about Catholics all the time, but we still take our responsibility seriously. Well, most of us anyway.
one has to ask what exactly what would Episcopalian bishops find as a disqualifying factor to be in their clergy?
Actually it works quite well, since Islam is actually the worship of Cthulhu.
one has to ask what exactly what would Episcopalian bishops find as a disqualifying factor to be in their clergy?
Belief in their religion?
For many years I’ve believed that there is very little difference between the professional practitioners of most religions and professional con artists.
And I formed that opinion even before Sharpton and Jackson.
She’s certainly not helping me change that opinion.
Figures that a woman can’t even make up her mind about what religion she is!
I was raised in the Episcopal church and believe it or not, there are quite a few very conservative Episcopal churches out there (at least in my diocese). So easy on the Episcopalians and our Mexican counterparts, the Episcopaliens (what Harry Reid calls Episcopundocumenteds). We’re not all moonbats.
Five years ago, I was ordained a minister of the Universal Life Church on-line. At this point, that is actually more meaningful than an Episcopal ordination.
On behalf of Catholics everywhere: we don’t want you back!
Posted by: Wacky Hermit on June 19, 2007 10:36 PM
No kidding, Seminarian– how can someone who doesn’t believe Jesus is divine be considered a Christian? (Not to turn this into a discussion of whether Mormons are Christians, but) given that there are some people who don’t believe Mormons qualify as Christians even though they believe in the divinity of Christ, how much less qualified to be a Christian is someone who just thinks Christ was an ordinary guy with some neat ideas?
Uh, Wacky Hermit, “Mormons” is a nickname, their official name, since their inception, has been:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints”. Does calling someone named “Edward” “Eddy” change what they are?
The LDS church has said that since they believe their church is Jesus’ property, it must have his name on it. They also site some New Testiment reference for this.
As far as the subject of this thread is concerned, this woman is deluding herself, (in the KA Seattle piece she admits that there was no thought in her decision…) Muslim doctrine and Christian are completely incompatible, regardless of the finer points of either. It is sort of like saying a horse and a cat are the same creature because they both have 4 legs. As both of the aforementioned are animals, both of these are religions, but then so is paganism, and no one pretends that they can be both Pagan & Christian.
– Martin Musculus
This is the sort of crap that drove me away the Church. There are those of us who are devout Christians, but the libtards took over, and they are the ones getting all the media play. We only have two seminaries left in the US that don’t let you bring your gay lover as your roommate. Forget teaching the the scriptures or doctrine, If it feels good, do it is the motto of the day.
Consider it a future reflection of society as a whole. Saddening, isn’t it?
Why don’t the call a spade a spade:
It’s not Episcopalian, it’s Universal Life Church…you know, the one that used to advertise in the back of Rolling Stone where for $20.00 you could buy your Reverend title, and for $50.00 more be ordained a Bishop.
given that there are some people who don’t believe Mormons qualify as Christians even though they believe in the divinity of Christ…
However, their beliefs about Christ are not true. Yes, they believe in a “trinity”, but they believe that GOD the Son, GOD the Father, and GOD the Holy Spirit are three separate gods. In fact, they believe there are millions of “gods”. They also hold many other beliefs that disqualify them as being Christian (that the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob began as a man, etc.)
They do, however, use the Bible “as far as it is correctly translated”, i.e., when it agrees with their teaching. Episcopals only use the Bible when they run out of Cottonelle.
Beez — if you are applying to a Catholic diocese for acceptance as a seminarian, watch out. Many dioceses have vocations offices dominated by theological liberals who will try to weed out those who ARE NOT homosexuals, female ordination sympathizers, theological syncretists, secret Muslims (that’s what the Inquisition was for!),or believers in the usual non-Christian crap that has destroyed most of the mainline Protestant denominations. If they know you believe in the Bible and the Catechism, watch EWTN, or know a little Latin, they’ll reject you. Even if the bishop is a good man, he often won’t know what some of his chancery officials are up to. Be careful. If you must, find a good orthodox diocese like Lincoln or Denver. There is no priest shortage in dioceses like those.
I read the the priest/imans bishop thinks this may be a good thing for bridging the gap between the religeons.
Given her beliefs, she should be a Unitarian Universalist, as she wants to take pieces of different religions.
Without the Islamic move, she would be a Unitarian in my mind.
And had she lived 1500 years ago, she would have been an Arian.
Wow, and I thought becoming a minister in the Universal Life Church was easy. Apparently, i could have become an Episcopalian. They must opperate the same way, quick, internet ordinations.
Every other sect supposes itself in possession of the truth, and that those who differ are so far in the wrong. Like a man traveling in foggy weather they see those at a distance before them wrapped up in a fog, as well as those behind them, and also people in the fields on each side; but near them, all appears clear, though in truth they are as much in the fog as any of them. –Benjamin Franklin
In the beginning the church was a fellowship of men and women centering on the living Christ. Then the church moved to Greece where it became a philosophy. Then it moved to Rome where it became an institution. Next, it moved to Europe, where it became a culture. And, finally, it moved to America where it became an enterprise.–Richard Halverson
Everyday people are straying away from the church and going back to God. –Lennie Bruce
I believe that last quote should be studied by the “Rev.” Ann Holmes Redding in depth. You don’t get closer to God by getting more religion.