Note: I posted this over at my little blog earlier. I didn’t expect it would get much of a reaction, so I didn’t cross-post it here.
Turns out that some liberals trolls have taken offense, and left some really nasty comments. But they left them on teh YouTube, because I don’t allow anonymous comments on my blog. I removed the comments on teh YouTube due to the language.
It appears I misunderestimated the impact of this post. However, if being on my little 4-visitor-a-day blog generated that much consternation from the left, imagine what it showing up here would do!
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D NS-CA-8), appearing on ABC’s This Week. told Elizabeth Vargas that Democrats need courage to pass health care over the objections of the American people…
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What do you say to your members, when it does come to the House to vote on this, who are in real fear of losing their seats in November if they support you now?
PELOSI: Well first of all our members — every one of them — wants health care. I think everybody wants affordable health care for all Americans. They know that this will take courage. It took courage to pass Social Security. It took courage to pass Medicare. And many of the same forces that were at work decades ago are at work again against this bill.
But the American people need it, why are we here? We’re not here just to self perpetuate our service in Congress. We’re here to do the job for the American people. To get them results that gives them not only health security, but economic security, because the health issue is an economic issue for — for America’s families.
You know who else is told to have “courage” before they go and do something harmful to America?
These people:
I guess that’s something that everyone ready to commit suicide on behalf of others is told … even if it’s political suicide.
My friend, Basil, if I were to judge this post and reaction to this post, I would state that you may have at least dispelled one myth about liberal trolls: that they never sleep.
Perhaps, just to bring the blessings of the troll rain gods, there is also a comparison between Speaker Pelosi’s remarks and Hitler’s orders to von Paulus in ’42. Or Rommel in ’43. Heck, any of Hitler’s orders will do.
PELOSI: Well first of all, The Party members — every one of them if they know what’s good for them — wants their free gold plated health care. I think everybody wants to make sure there’s no affordable health care for all the working Americans and 100% free
health careeverything forall the useful idiots we rely oneveryone else. They know that this will take Marxist ideas. It took Marxist ideas to pass Social Security. It took Marxist ideas to pass Medicare and our proudest achievement, the welfare system is Marxism at it finest. And many of the same forces that were at work decades ago rightfully saying it would bankrupt the country are at work again against our Marxist takeover.But the stupid American people think they need it, that’s why we’re here, to convince them that without us, they’re helpless. Thanks to our success so far, many of them are. We’re here to self perpetuate our service in Congress and our devotion to Marxism. We’re here to do a job on the American people, people that we’ve made sure are dumbed down to the point we can actually get away with it, to get them results that gives them not only no health security, but no economic security or hope for a better future because the health issue is the most important key in the complete destruction of America as a country.
…but a Muslim with a suicide belt can only hurt a limited number of people with his/her act, while Pelosi and friends can harm the entire country with theirs.
To any liberal trolls that come here I just want to say that this video is proof that Barack Obama is not a smart man. Obama turned his domestic agenda over to Nancy Pelosi from day one and she is now talking about Democrats committing political suicide to pass her bills.
Obama has still after all this time and all this discussion never released a health insurance plan of his own that is detailed enough to be scored by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). What he did release, LAST WEEK, was a copy of Pelosi’s bill with the Stupak amendment removed mashed up with the Senate bill. More and more people every day are discovering Barack Obama is not a smart man. Unless you believe all along his plan was to be a one term president.
I think I just threw up in my mouth. I can’t even watch the dingbat let alone listen to her for 50 seconds. I had to turn it off. I doubt there was that much opposition to SS, maybe to the welfare reforms of Johnson, but she is saying that the will of the people doesn’t matter. We are nothing more than gravel to walk on to get her agenda passed.
Come on Basil, after all these years the thrill of life and death decisions made for those still in the womb is wearing off. A
good liberal now needs that power over every living human just to get out of bed each day. Pelosi will be a prime
candidate for assisted suicide if she does not get that power in her …… ummm ….. lifetime.
Given a choice, dinner with Nancy or the deranged Palestinian Martyr Momma, I would go with the Palestinian… because I’d like a shot at a little bit of rational conversation over the foie gras.
Foolish humans!! You dare to question The Pelosi? Do you? My suicide belt werring minions in the House will self destruct on my command. You need MY beautiful and perfect healthcare bill forced on you whether or not you want it. The Pelosi knows best.
OK, say the dems do shove this down our throats…we the people override the obama zombies and liberal in elections, and elect a conservative or “not democrat or liberal” House, Congress, and then Prez. What can we do about this mess then? Can it be repealed under grounds that it is unconstitutional? Can Nanci Pelosi and the loony libs be arrested for violating our civil rights and the will of American “Astro Turf”? Basically they are doing what they want, and what THEY think is best for you and I, no matter what we say!!!! There has to be something legally binding in the laws of this nation, to prevent this from happening….this needs to go to a vote of the people…i mean “astro-turf”!!!!!!! There has to be accountability to US! Can individual and States refuse this? I live in Tennessee where the big mess that is called TennCare (Socialized Medicine) has blown out the state budget…and the state has kicked ALOT of people off!!! Its all doomed before it begins, and they know it. They are laying the final bricks in the foundation to changing the fundamentals of this country. Oh man, look at the time…I need to go read my Bible and clean my guns….
We’re not here just to self perpetuate our service in Congress. We’re here to do the job for the American people…..ROTFLMAO, zzyzx, Alaska
What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk, in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? Courage! What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the Sphinx a Seventh Wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage! What makes the Hottentot so Hot? What puts the ‘ape’ in apricot? What have they got that Democrats ain’t got? COURAGE!
If they only had a brain!
The problem is Pelosi is right. She knows it, the Repubs know it and even most Conservatives have figured it out. If they can ram through a Bill it becomes a government program and there is nothing closer to immortality than that. It won’t be repealed. So forget that false hope and stop this damned thing NOW. Pelosi can pass anything she wants, the Blue Dogs are just a myth maintained to allow Dems to sit in Red seats. If the chips are down just enough will vote for passage. The fight will be to hold the number of Senators willing to use reconcilliation under fifty. The odds of pulling that off are low but are the only serious hope for success. Byrd almost certainly won’t go for it, that means we need nine more.
Seriously, lets examine the whole ‘we can repeal it after the great uprising of ’10’ notion in more detail. Assume the uprising is everything we could possibly hope for and we take the House and attain a real working majority in the Senate. We would have to run the table, including places we couldn’t win in a wet dream, to get close to a fillibuster proof supermajority but the numbers just aren’t there to get to a veto proof majority in either house if we won every seat up (in the Senate) or seriously in play (in the House). So there sits BHO and his veto pen waiting for any attempt to kill off his signature achievement of his first term. And he will know that if Congress flips he won’t be getting any new achivements to go into the ’12 elections with.
So your retort is, “So, most of the healthcare bill doesn’t go into effect until ’13 so we replace Obama and then repeal it.” Ah, but lots of taxes, regulations and cruft do kick in sooner so by then a simple repeal won’t be enough. We would need a new bill to unwind the mess. Odds are there would be efforts to integrate different health reform ideas, which may or may not be an improvement. So that will mean a messy fight in Congress and nobody knows what ends up at the end of that sausage grinder. Many variables, mostly just what the numbers on Conservatives, Republicans and Progressives look like and assuming we can actually put Barry in the unemployment line what we manage to replace him with. Messy and unpredictable.
Ok, so someone explain to me, after all that’s happened in the last 6 months- the resurgence of the Republican party, gains in governorships, a Republican representing MA in the Senate- how does Pelosi, Reid and the Washington Liberal Mafia, still not get it? Their approval rating is in the septic tank. Democrat Reps and Senators are jumping ship left right and sideways. Pelosi is telling members to vote for health care no matter the results. Do they really think the American public is kidding? Do they think “we the people” are just going to shut up and sit down? Maybe we need to give them a more tangible manifestation of our discontent. I’m thinking we should all purchase several pound of horse manure to be deposited on the steps of the capital on the day of the vote. Not bags of it either, nice, fresh, highly aromatic, nutrient filled horse crap.
Or mayhaps we should take a page from the Greek play book, since the powers that be seem to want European style rule. A three or four day strike against the government might be just what the doctor ordered (pun soooooo intended). I could use a couple of days off, actually, and I have at least a couple of months of food storage so all I’ll need is some TP and I’m on board.
Go on Nanny, keep pushing. I can’t wait to see the backlash.