We are a small and shunned minority, we conservatives who paid attention to politics and the facts about each of the candidates. Now that Fred Thompson is gone, what is left for us to do.
I see three options.
1. Throw Our Unenthusiastic Support Behind Romney. He’s conservativey, and thus the default choice for those of us who actually care about conservatism. And while he won’t punch hippies, he probably would have them forcefully ejected from his office building by security (while doing his best to avoid a scene). It’s just that getting enthusiastic for him is like getting all excited about a scoop of vanilla ice cream. I don’t know what Hugh Hewitt is taking, but I’d wish he’d share it.
2. Get Hot for Obama. He is charismatic. Why can’t we take the blue pill, forget all his political positions and incompetence, and catch Obama fever? How much could he screw up in four years anyway? And if he is elected the first black president, won’t you feel racist for not voting for him? How will you explain that to your grandchildren — especially if they’re black? They’ll call you “Grandpa Byrd” or something equally derogatory.
3. Become Grizzled Loners. Society doesn’t reject us; we reject society! Let’s stock up on ammo and canned food and withdraw from the civilized world. And let’s be extremely gruff to anyone who comes near us. Of course, the hard exterior will be there only to conceal the hurt inside.
I think that’s all the possibilities, so what do you think?
I think that ammo could be a very dangerous prey to stalk depending on if it’s already in a gun or not.
[Wow. That was a brand new homonym error. -Ed.]
I’m just not voting in this election.
Which is a shame because this would be my first time voting.
Well, shame I couldn’t vote 1 & 3. I really wanted to vote FOR somebody, not AGAINST somebody else. But, same as it ever was. And then go up to the mountains with a really big telescope.
I’m not gonna be a douche and copy paste my whole comment again, but it’s in the comments for Frank J for President.
http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/d7d27fe0-c7d1-4727-9f59-f26d8a3ab833
Can’t argue with Medved.
Don’t even have to admit. Just lighten up 🙂
Frightening, but those were exactly the three choices I have been juggling.
I want to know who the one person is who voted for the false obama option. Clearly Frank put that in there to draw out those unfit to be grizzled loners (or Mittens).
No votes for communists here! Even for smooth-talking, “exciting” communists!!
Geez…
Oh, hell, Frank, why not just throw our support behind that great female warrior (and lard ass), Hillory Clinton?
I am going to:
A) Stock up on guns and ammo for the inevitable Clinton tyranny.
B) Write in Fred Thompson for President in November
C) Write in Duncan Hunter for Vice-President in November
D) The day after it is confirmed that Hillary Clinton is the President Elect, Get stinking drunk.
Footnote:
Same goes if Obama, McCain, Guliani, etc wins in November.
Insurgency. You forgot insurgency. We can become rebels in the hills, wear cool berets, get our face on the front of liberal hippie T-shirts, and probably get funded by all the looney left peaceniks to boot. All we have to do is to be against those war-mongering Democrats who will suddenly discover that abandoning Iraq is NOT really an option.
P.S. Be advised, though, that those mountains can get cold at night.
And once or twice a week we can all meet up at Hooters. We just wont sit near each other.
(then stick Frank with the bill)
Ron Paul.
My only concern with Romney is that he supports affirmative action and the assault weapons ban. Thankfully for me, my three semi-auto rifles are all unregistered. There’s also his jailhouse conversion thing but who else can I vote for?
Loner ’08. “Get off my lawn!”
He doesn’t agree with me on all the issues, but I’m voting for Rudy. That man has punched some hippies in his time. Then had his boys work ’em over with a plunger.
Ron Paul.
No, seriously.
I’ll pull the lever for Romney. I have some reservations, but not as many as with McCain or his stalking horse, Huckabee.
I’d go for the lonely hermit option, but Pennsylvania already had a Pennsylvania Hermit and he’s a damn sight more interesting.
I refuse to take the Blue Pill, or become a loner!
Now, Who wants a scoop of Vanilla Ice Cream?
Grizzled loner…how hard is it to set up a Dillon Precision progressive pistol cartridge reloader in a mountain cave? We’ll find out.
ss396, you get the berets, I’ll start the t-shirt campaign.
This is so sad… Both Hunter and Thompson are out. I’m thinking Mitt, then Rudy, either way it’ll be less evil than Hillary or Obama.
#15 – Posted by: RockThrowingPeasant on January 23, 2008 12:17 PM
Heh.
Vote for Huck… What the @$%&!
Then become a grizzled loner.
I ♡ Bigotry.
Do I have to repeat myself? I ♡ Bigotry.
Yes… because I’m not already… therefore I agree.
Probably #1, though I plan on writing Fred in on the primary ballot.
#15 – Posted by: RockThrowingPeasant on January 23, 2008 12:17 PM
Pennsylvania Hermit?
Well, I won’t have to hold my nose voting for either Romney or Giuliani, even if I can’t get enthusiastic about either of them.
But if McCain or Huckabee is on the Republican ticket and Obama is on the Democratic, I’m voting Democrat for the first time in my life. If we’re going to have to choose between liberals anyway, I may as well vote for the one who’s at least honest enough to admit he’s one.
And if it’s the Hildebeast on the Dem ticket, OTOH, I’ll write in Fred’s name as a protest vote.
#23 – Posted by: on January 23, 2008 12:44 PM
Here
Crap, I’m bad at HTML
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_%28Amos%29_Wilson
if McKennedy, i mean mccain or upchuckabee is the option, then a write in vote for Fred is in my future. if romney i will vote for him and write him lots of letters…maybe become an advisor for him or something to help keep him on the straight path. same with rudy.
ron paul was seen walking down a mountain pass on Mars.
#26 – Posted by: MarkoMancuso on January 23, 2008 12:49 PM
Thanks. That’s quite a story.
I’m already a grizzled loner, and I’d never get hot for a Communist, so I suppose I’ll have to back Romney. Historically, he’s the one to beat anyway. Americans haven’t elected a Senator in decades. It’s been the executive branch that’s been springboarding Presidents the past century. So, that puts McCain, Hillary, Obama, and the other Democrats at a pointed disadvantage.
I’m deeply saddened by the departure of Fred from the race. He’s the only one I was truly for. My immediate plans are to drink heavily for a few days, which coincidentally mesh nicely with my long-term plans.
are you badmouthing vanilla? Someone hold me back…
that, and #1 and #3 aren’t mutually exclusive
I figure #3 is the same as RON PAUL, so I voted #3.
None of those douchebags deserve our vote.
The only exception may be Ron Paul. At least he isn’t a liar.
Given our difficulty in moving on from Fred, we should have pity for those on the left. They can’t select a candidate without being either:
Anti-black and anti-woman;
Anti-woman and anti-gay;
Anti-gay and anti-black.
What a moral dilema for a true multi-culterist!
For too long many Republicans have been confused.
Overwhelmed by too many choices. Not knowing where to turn.
But out of the confusion comes stunning clarity.
That clarity is your conservative rock in the rain.
It’s John McCain!
Raise your conservative voice
Make the conservative choice
John McCain’ 08
The Right Man to Lead Us
http://www.johnmccain.com
I still can’t believe there’s a McTroll here. But I guess I can’t blame him for waiting for Fred to exit stage left…
#3 is more or less where I was before all this started, so I think I’m going to stay the course. I guess I’ll write in Reagan when I vote. Even dead, he’s still got more positive influence than the steaming pile of remaining candidates.
u shuld quit u bloggin iz what u shuld do. it is nah good. iz suxxor like so many peeps that b on imaoh blawg. do not want.
In the primary, I am still gonna vote for Fred.
In the general election I will vote for any of the Repulicans (yes even ##@$^ McCain) over Obama or Clinton. At least with McCain there is a CHANCE he won’t screw up the replacements for Justices Stevens and Ginsburg (neither one can possibly hang on for 5 more years) where as Clinton or Obama will definitely make bad appointments.
As tempting as it is to sit this one out cause the GOP DESERVES to lose, I love my country too much to not do everything I can to keep the Democrats currently running OUT.
Is it too much to ask to have a Presidential Candidate to vote FOR, at least once in my life, rather than against his/her opponent.
I don’t care anymore, if we are to live in a socialist state I want to go first class so it’s Barry all the way. I want to learn the ropes of a socialist society while I still have some yout left in me. If the gub’ment handouts are not juicy enough then I will go the grizzled loner route. Lucky for me I live in an area where grizzled loners don’t stick out much…
The Pennsylvania Hermit wasn’t an inarticulate nuttah.
Here’s his primary work, The Sweets of Solitude. It’s an interested look at the world and man’s place in the universe.
some of ya’ll have the righ idea, and others I feel ashamed of.
no matter who the nominee is for Republicans, there’s no way in hell they’ll be worse than one of the Dems.
Obama is a naive little sissie with no convictions. Edwards is a two faced homo. Hillary is a soul sucking baby eater. But Obama talks pretty so we should vot for him over a republican we don’t like.
yeah, that makes total sense -_-
staying home is un American and cowardly. men fought and died to secure your right to vote. appreciate their sacrifice.
#39 – Posted by: RockThrowingPeasant on January 23, 2008 02:34 PM
If only we could make Ed Rendell and the majority of the legislature go live in a cave.
Crap! I’m already a grizzled loaner, except I have to put up with the wife and two teenage sons.
You want bad news? The Police and Fire Dept told me I can not legally store any more ammo & explosives on my property with out getting permits and building special magazines. I have less that 15K rds per gun!
#34 is DNC/Hitlary troll! Look up Qwai Chang McCains Senate record and see who he has partnered with time and time again to stop any Conservative action. SCOTUS opennings? Hell that asswipe would appoint John Freakin’ Edwards to the Court!
You want Supreme Court Justice John Edwards? Or maybe Bill Clinton? McCain will do it!
And start hiding your semi-autos because if Qwai Chang gets in they will be outlawed within the 1st year. Look up his rating with the NRA or GOA.
Life time rating F-!
The Huck-a-loon would be better than McCain.
Hell, Obama would be better.
Please, show us what piece of solid conservative legislation Qwai Chang has pushed thru.
What rock ribbed Conservative leaders has he helped? I know he’s screwed most of them.
It galls me that this two faced liar can stand in front of a crowd and claim he’s a conservative after writting the Amnesty Bill with Teddy K.
Now he pretends to have been converted. And he has the nerve to call Romney name sfor changing his views on things.
BTW, Vanilla is the #1 selling ice cream flavor.
#2 – Posted by: Sir Andrew on January 23, 2008 11:22 AM
I’m considering a write-in. Who it would be, though, I have no clue. Someone awesome like Aslan or Gandalf or just Fred anyways.
Then I’ll go be a grizzled loner. That always seemed like it’d be fun anyways.
If I choose Obamy, do I get invited to the inauguration party?
With my two favorite socialists, Hugo Chavez and Barry, I bet we could score some premo coca paste, and go whoring all night long!
#34 – Posted by: utrejch4 on January 23, 2008 01:59 PM
Is that name just a variation of UT reject?
I’d rather have all my teeth pulled than vote for Romney.
Okay, guys in a Romney vs. McCain contest, here’s what you’ll have.
A guy who says 99% of what you want to hear, but will lose badly in November because he belongs to a cult that believes that God lives on the planet Kolob, you need to wear magic underwear and white salamanders were handing out holy books. Don’t worry, the MSM will let you know just how flaky the Mormons are.
or
A guy who says maybe 82% of what you want to hear, but will actually have a even chance of winning. Make sure he takes a solid conservative VP, and maybe you get lucky and he’ll keel over before his term is done, but you are probably only stuck with him for one term anyway because of his age.
Incidently, the first Florida poll with Fred out of the mix shows Romney pulling in front of Fred in Florida by a good margin. Guess a lot of people are picking “A”.
As a capitalism and freedom loving American, I think I’ll just vote AGAINST the most socialistic candidate…as a single tear runs down my cheek as I imagine the joy that could’ve come from voting for Fred Thompson.
A final point in the Romney v. McCain argument..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
McCain bests Hillary in 3 out of four polls, and Obama in 2 out of four.
Romney loses by 12 points to Hillary and 21 points to B. Hussein Obama.
Now, it’s probably that either one of them could lose, but Romney would lose by a margin to swing the House and Senate perhaps irrevocably to the Democratic side. McCain might give those guys in the other races a fighting chance, and put us in a position to retake both houses in 2010 if it came to that.
Screw it. I’m voting for Thompson anyway. And, I’m buying the damn t-shirt.
http://independentthinking.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/ive-come-to-a-decision/
#50 – Posted by: JoeB131 on January 23, 2008 04:19 PM
And when McCain gives amnesty there will never be another Republican majority again. So remember that when you vote for McCain because he’s “electable”.
The stock markets are going with Option 3.
Fred loses SC, the next day of international trading the market collapses. Coincidence? I think not.
Write in:
Fred Thompson
at least in the primary. If we all do that, the party may have to draft him after all, once they realize we won’t vote for less than the Real Deal.
Number 3 for me, since I can’t bear to be confrontational or rude in person to people who disagree with me. Romney’s almost acceptable, I have no qualms with his faith and don’t feel it should even be an issue with anyone who isn’t a bigot. That said, if he runs it’s clear that the Dems will show their colors as 99% of them are bigoted against anyone other than Wahabiist muslims.
I live in Arizona, and McCain is a non-starter. He’s not trustworthy nor is he in any fashion a conservative. I wouldn’t cross the street to pee on him if his guts were on fire. If he or Guiliani is on the ticket I’m exercising my RIGHT to NOT vote. The end result would be the same, just a different timetable if a socialist with a D was elected or if a socialist with an R (McCain) were voted in.
A final point in the Romney v. McCain argument..
McCain bests Hillary in 3 out of four polls, and Obama in 2 out of four.
And we know MSM polls are never just a teensy bit rigged, so that, to pick a random far-fetched example out of the air, their favorite designated Bob Dole loser might come out on top.
Excellent point Carl P., if the mSM is for something as they are “for” Qwai Chang you know it’s a Liberal dream. The Media loves McCain because he’s one of them – a true Leftist pretending to be “independent”.
good LORD.
The REAL rinos are those who won’t vote for the member of their own damn party because they didn’t get the candidate they wanted.
get out your pitchforks and flaming torches if you must, but read with a reasonable ear.
Fred Thompson was my first choice too. But in light of his depressing absence, we have to support a republican who can win against the democrats. And MSN isn’t the only poll out there.
Pouting and “teaching the GOP a lesson about electing a REAL conservative” is a load of crap. Handing over the future of your nation, your kid’s nation, your grandkid’s nation; to a bunch of commie hugging hippies with a fetish for killing babies is NOT accomplishing anything.
we “don’t wanna see us fall backwards,” to quote a crazy bitch out of context.
No Romney! Not now, not ever! He’s a untrustworthy dingledork.
It’s McCain or Rudy for me.
Considering how darned cool we all are, I vote for “grizzled loners” (though I, of course, shall remain far from grizzled). I imagine we could have some seriously swank parties.
Although Romney could kinda sorta pass for a Rat Pack-esque crooner lookalike…
McVain is a brainwashed Red Chinese puppet. Look at his history, his voting record. Hucklpoo is good on 2A, nothing else conservative. Don Giuliani is a “made man”, and a RINO from tax and spend hell. Romney? Pretty good. Menh. No FRED!, who was our only real hope. But to sit home and let the demoncraps win to “teach the party a lesson” is NOT going to work. It will make the party think “Oh, they want us even further left”. What we’re stuck with is ABC. Anybody But Clinton.
I’ll go with clambake.
Write in Sheridan/Ivanova?
JoeB,
Does the name “Goldwater” mean anything?
If McCain is the nominee, it will be pointless voting for him or for the Dem.
The man constantly compromises his principles for popularity points.
I admire McCain the veteran and the Iraq War supporter, but there’s really nothing else for him to hang his hat on.
If elected, he will quickly cave to the middle ground and only work Left to reach compromises. His legislative record is clear proof of this tactic.
Think he’ll appoint strict constructionist judges? Think again. The guy caved and organized the Gang of 14.
Think he won’t go squishy on illegal immigrants and slow/stop the fence? Think again. HE was dragged kicking and screaming to the idea of border enforcement first, resolution later.
He’ll sell out our economy to get buddies in Europe over the global warming religion. He won’t explore other options. He will move to the middle and only work Left when he compromises.
He legislates via polls. If the people move this way, so will John. People move that way, so will John. That’s not leadership. That’s allowing the media to conduct polls and sell it as national interest.
No thanks.
I’d rather lose an election than let McCain try to rewrite conservatism and Republicanism to suit his massive ego.
Like RR said on switching to the Republican party. I didn’t leave the democrats – They left me.
Well, I am not leaving the republican party – they are leaving me. – Vote constitution party
I’m going to vote for Fred Thompson on Feb. 5. His name will still be on the ballot.
I don’t know what I’m going to do in November.
tomtcos, you are amazing! I just discovered B5 a few weeks ago and I love it.
Although I might write in someone for fun in the primaries, I think I’ll probably go for Romney, since he seems to be a passable second choice. I’m just disappointed that I won’t get to vote for Fred, since this is my first election ever.
I’ll most likely vote for whomever the Republican nominee is, but I’d have serious qualms about voting for McCain. Between cooperating with Ted Kennedy (ewwwww) on amnesty and Russ Feingold (double ewww) on campaign finance ‘reform,’ he’s pretty unaceptable in my book.
#52- Yes, it is unfortunate that the loud mouthed bigots have completely alienated the Hispanic vote, so that when (not if) the illegals become citizens, they won’t vote republican.
#53- Yeah, “Goldwater” does mean something. It means a crazy nutjob who lost 44 states, and permanently alienated African Americans from our party by oppossing the civil rights bill.
In McCain’s defense, the Gang of 14 made it possible to get Alito and Roberts on SCOTUS without a filibuster from the Dems. It also got a few other judges who had been languishing through the process.
I’m not thrilled with some of McCain’s positions, but you can thank our wonderful nominating process, that allows Democratic states to be the first three in the row, effectively eliminating real conservatives before most of us get a chance to vote for them.
As far as illegals go, some of them are going to inevitably become citizens. We need to push on the fence and better border enforcement first, but the fact it that we can’t round up 12-20 million people and ship them home without wrecking our economy and Mexicos (which is already on the razor’s edge of electing Chavez-style nutbags.) The idea of giving them Z-visa and having to wait 13 years to become citizens, maybe was probably not a bad one.
I think Hispanics are actually a natural constituency for the GOP. They are religious, hard-working, have traditional values. But if we alienate them the way Goldwater alienated blacks, then we will be a minority party for a century.
I was already a grizzled loner before Fred, so I guess I will go back to my usual sloth. I agree with windbag except I don’t drink but I will smoke a few extra ones. Voting choices in order
Mitt
Rudy
Barrack
any other candidates and I vote constitution party
It’s fine to dislike a candidate, you’re an American and that’s one of the cool things about us is that we’re opinionated and remain unpunished for that. I mean think about it, free political speech is a founding principle and a great one at that. This blog is a shining testament to that unalienable right.
But what NOT okay is to base your opinions on falsehoods. You wanna talk about reading up on candidates? How ’bout actually doing that.
It’s fine to disagree with a person, that’s your right and I applaud you for doing so. What sickens me is that I see people ready to vote for a naive little wuss with no convictions over someone in their own party they don’t agree 100% with. Forget him destroying the country, Suckabee/McCain/Giuliani/Romney pissed me off. Let’s teach ’em a lesson at the cost of our future.
“But what NOT okay is to base your opinions on falsehoods. You wanna talk about reading up on candidates? How ’bout actually doing that.”
Okay, I went over and read the townhall.com article. Did I believe it? What do I see in practice. Right. Mitt’s it.
#71 – Posted by: you people scare me on January 24, 2008 07:55 PM
It’s not so much that we disagree with them at all as what those issues are. Many of their stances on the things that we feel strongest about are very frightening. Stuff like the war, immigration, gun rights, free speech, taxes, etc. are very important to us and to the future of the country. Personally, I don’t care much what a president’s stance is on gay rights, abortion, and all that stuff. We just want a candidate who will care about both the security and the freedom of Americans, and none of the current ones do.
Hazel, you make a very good point about the specific issues, but some of the ones you mentioned ARE important issues with candidates.
There are a lot of misconceptions that went into branding McCain as a rino. And I’m focusing on McCain because of the remaining four he’s my top choice, plus the rampant and undeserved hatred. And cmblake6, there’s a lot you don’t see at all. Please don’t be offended, because I really really am not claiming to be some sort of McCain expert (or an expert on any of the candidate).
I mean, you HAVE to look at your sources for a lot of things. For example, I trust the guy that wrote the previous column I dropped a link to and this excellent one here.
I agree that hippies need punching and borders need securing and that terrorists need killing (incidentally, John McCain does too. At least on the last two). But what I don’t agree on is that the war hero John McCain is a traitor to his country or party. And even if you don’t like him, at least he’s not blackie or boobie.
The choices identified are unfortunately and pathetically, inevitable with Thompson out of the race. Any thought of jumping on the Obama black power train quickly dissipates upon the realization that I am much more anti-sociocrat than I am “black” (except according to Jim Crow).
The ad I am looking at as I type this, “I survived roe v. wade” t-shirt photo makes me want to regress to a purely sexual existence – damn she looks good – what was I saying?… oh yeah…
So Mitt Romney is now the one. I suppose I can get over him being a reformed ultra-liberal. I suppose I can get over his support for universal healthcare. I suppose I can get over his support for citizenship for illegal immigrants already here.
Mike Huckabee wants to cap troop levels; supports amnesty AND citizenship for illegal immigrants already here; is a big spender and supports increasing the minimum wage; supports a cap/reduction of “global warming” emissions; opposes school vouchers.
John McCain and Rudy Juliani are straight out “RINOs”.
Ron Paul is a political quack and a dangerous utopian “non-interventionist”.
Regardless, I will pull the lever for whichever candidate the pachyderms post, as a much lesser evil to the prospect of a sociocrat POTUS. The worst possible scenario, perish the thought, is the Clintons being back in the white house!
Yes we must prepare ourselves… there could be some dark days ahead. Moving to Australia might be an alternative for me & wifey if not for 1 kid at UCF and 1 kid a sophomore in high school.
“The Clintons have a record of lawless and ruthless corruption that goes back not only to their White House days in the 1990s but even back to their time in the governors’ mansion in Arkansas… It may not be emotionally satisfying to vote for the lesser of two evils but a lot depends on how bad the worse evil is. Nobody running on the Republican ticket is as dangerous as the Clintons.” –Thomas Sowell
at least you’re not cowardly sitting it out or voting against your party 🙂