Awww! Is Jug Ears banging his sippy cup because he isn’t getting his way again? I certainly hope that the next President is not a Democrat, and has testicles enough to force the issue of Obama’s birth certificate and college records. Then, if Obama was indeed born in Kenya like several newspapers, foreign and domestic have said, then the IRS needs to declare every penny spent on the imposter as taxable income, including their innumerable vacations via AF1, and confiscate every bit of property and every account they both own.
Re: ” Then, if Obama was indeed born in Kenya like several newspapers, foreign and domestic have said…”
Obama was not born in Kenya as the stupid newspapers mistakenly said. He was born in Hawaii as his birth certificate shows, and as the officials of both parties (including the former Republican governor, a friend of Sarah Palin’s) have said. And that is confirmed by the birth notices sent to the “Health Bureau Statistics” section of the newspapers (and only the DOH of Hawaii could send those notices, and it only did so in 1961 for births in Hawaii).
Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and that the Kenyan government has said that Obama and his mother were not among them? Did you know that perhaps one in a million pregnant women traveled late in pregnancy in 1961 due to the high risk of stillbirths? Did you know that a trip to Kenya in 1961 would have cost the equivalent of $10,000 in 2013 dollars? But, most important of all, the government of Kenya said that he was NOT born there, and the government of Hawaii confirmed his birth certificate that said that he WAS born there. (And, no, his Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. A birther site made that claim up by simply cutting off the tape recording just before she was asked: “Where was he born?” She answered that by saying: “In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time.”)
Which birth certificate is that smrstrauss? Both of the ones produced and displayed have been photoshopped forgeries. We still have not seen his original birth certificate, because Il Douche has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers to make sure we don’t get to see his original birth certificate or his college records. I know that newspapers in Kenya and the US published articles about the “Kenyan born Barak Obama” running for and being elected to the IL state senate, and the US Senate. His biography on the jackets of his “auto”biographies stated he was born in Kenya. So, until the dirtbag can come up with a birth certificate that is not forged or photoshopped, the location of his birth is not settled. As for taking the lyin’ king’s word for it, you have got to be kidding.
OK folks, time for us to admit defeat before the overwhelming stats proffered by smrstrauss. 9 out of 10 dentists have agreed, a majority of thoracic surgeons concur, 21 people out of hundreds, one in a million pregnant women, the taller candidate in a political race is more likely to win, the proof is in the pudding, a stitch in time, step on a crack, mary mack dressed in black, how does your garden grow, etc. etc.
All inarguable proof that our Milk-chocolate Leader was born in Hawaii.
Congrats smrstrauss, you’ve won us over.
Now convince us that Obama’s doing right by the economy.
Neither of Obama’s birth certificates are forged. There are simply birther zealots who are willing to claim that they are experts and who repeatedly claim that Obama’s birth certificate is forged. They are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review, or by Mitt Romney, John McCain and Paul Ryan, and Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann and Gingrich and Santorum, Etc.
For good reason. These are people who claim that Obama’s birth certificate is forged because it shows “layers” (but, duh, layers are normal in pdf, and the more complex the document, the more layers) and they claim that it shows “kerning” (but it is not kerning, it is the normal skipping of a manual typewriter), and they claim that Obama’s birth certificate could not show the word “African” for his father’s race because the word used in the USA at the time was “Negro” (but in Hawaii you were allowed to use any word that you wanted, and Obama’s father was from Africa, and the word that African exchange students used to describe their race in ther 1960s was normally “African.”)
So, Obama has shown his birth certificate, and it is not forged, and the officials of BOTH political parties in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent both the short form and the long form to Obama, and that all the facts on the image the White House has put online id EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
And, duh, birthers do not even have proof that Obama’s mother had a passport in 1961. They seriously want us to believe that there is a reasonable chance that Obama’s mother traveled at great expense and risk to a foreign country late in pregnancy DESPITE there being a birth certificate for Obama that shows that he was born in Hawaii, without even showing that she had a US passport. (And perhaps one in a million US women traveled internationally late in pregnancy in 1961 due to the high risk of stillbirth). And, no, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. That was simply made up by birther sites that cut off the taped interview just BEFORE she was asked “Where was he born?”
Re: “spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers to make sure we don’t get to see his original birth certificate or his college records.”
Obama has not shown the original birth certificate because the legal copy is the official document. The original stays in the files in Hawaii and is never sent to anyone. As for his college records. He has not spent a cent to hide them. They are preserved as private under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not show their college records either.
What an impressive sidestepping of the point cited to abet the claim.
Done much self-medication, smrstrauss? Huffed a little sweetleaf, perhaps gobbled down a handful or two of some magic shrooms? It’s the only explanation from the detached, rambling posts made.
Of course Obama wouldn’t show his original birth cert…for a whole lot of reasons…the point being that what the state registrar has proffered as an original is secunda facie fraudulent.
As concerns dubious academic records…again, the suppression is done via middle men with considerable influence. Think not? Then where are they? Where are the records of his SAT and LSAT scores-if they are public record and so stunningly impressive as to secure admittance into these prestigious Ivy League schools? Hmmmm?
Wouldn’t you brag your arse off behind impressive numbers…not to mention possible (but non-existant) press coverage in Hawaii of a favorite son rocking the tests and getting a Harvardian handshake? But…It’s. Not. There.
Explain that.
Riddle the room these questions, smrstrauss. C’mon, bring the substantive smug that Obama backers are known for. What were the objective critieria which secured this man’s entry into such vaunted circles of academe?
1. In a simple unedited scan of a document, why would there be layers?
2. Particularly, why would one number in the serial number of the document be pixelated, and others not?
3. As often pointed out, he could have been born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House, and if his parents were not both U.S. citizens (especially the father) he cannot be a “natural born citizen,” which is different from “native born.”
Re: “3. As often pointed out, he could have been born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House, and if his parents were not both U.S. citizens (especially the father) he cannot be a “natural born citizen,” which is different from “native born.”
Answer: That is what birther CLAIM repeatedly, but they are wrong, repeatedly.
“Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.”—The Wall Street Journal
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”—Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”—Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
The above being a sentiment of politics without the weight or force of law.
Heart warming though the sentiments expressed are, they remain completely devoid of specific reference to the U.S. constitution and serve as nothing more than a distraction for smrstrauss.
At a minimum, without absolute, affirmative proof of his birth in one of the fifty (or fifty-seven in his case) united states, Obama, being the product of a non-naturalized foreign national father, is a person of dual citizenships and clearly split allegiances, if not absolute affiliation with Kenya rather than the U.S. of A.
Re: “Heart warming though the sentiments expressed are, they remain completely devoid of specific reference to the U.S. constitution and serve as nothing more than a distraction for smrstrauss.”
IF there were a shred of evidence behind the “two-parents-required” theory, at least one of the ten appeals courts Obama’s eligibility was brought to would have found that he was not eligible, but all ten found that he was eligible, and they all did so by referring to the US Supreme Court’s interpretation of the meaning of Natural Born Citizen in the Wong Kim Ark case. In that case, the US Supreme Court ruled, six to two (one justice not voting) that the term comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth, and that every child born in the USA (except for the children of foreign diplomats) is a Natural Born US Citizen. THAT does refer to the US Constitution.
BTW, we have already had at least three presidents before Obama who were either dual citizens when they were president (James Madison was made a full citizen of France) or at their birth (Woodrow Wilson and Dwight D. Eisenhower due to laws of Britain and Germany, yes, Germany, that made either the children of its citizens or the grandchildren of its citizens citizens of that country at birth).
Re “Pixels can be manipulated.” Sure, they can be, but they weren’t.
Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
And it is irrational (to say the least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
And now a question for those who still think that Obama COULD have been born in a foreign country:
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
Awww! Is Jug Ears banging his sippy cup because he isn’t getting his way again? I certainly hope that the next President is not a Democrat, and has testicles enough to force the issue of Obama’s birth certificate and college records. Then, if Obama was indeed born in Kenya like several newspapers, foreign and domestic have said, then the IRS needs to declare every penny spent on the imposter as taxable income, including their innumerable vacations via AF1, and confiscate every bit of property and every account they both own.
Warm, fuzzy dream — but no more.
I like this…the IRS agent has fangs, Putin looks like Jimmy Durante, and Boris and Natasha are now working for a new Fearless Leader.
Re: ” Then, if Obama was indeed born in Kenya like several newspapers, foreign and domestic have said…”
Obama was not born in Kenya as the stupid newspapers mistakenly said. He was born in Hawaii as his birth certificate shows, and as the officials of both parties (including the former Republican governor, a friend of Sarah Palin’s) have said. And that is confirmed by the birth notices sent to the “Health Bureau Statistics” section of the newspapers (and only the DOH of Hawaii could send those notices, and it only did so in 1961 for births in Hawaii).
Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and that the Kenyan government has said that Obama and his mother were not among them? Did you know that perhaps one in a million pregnant women traveled late in pregnancy in 1961 due to the high risk of stillbirths? Did you know that a trip to Kenya in 1961 would have cost the equivalent of $10,000 in 2013 dollars? But, most important of all, the government of Kenya said that he was NOT born there, and the government of Hawaii confirmed his birth certificate that said that he WAS born there. (And, no, his Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. A birther site made that claim up by simply cutting off the tape recording just before she was asked: “Where was he born?” She answered that by saying: “In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time.”)
Which birth certificate is that smrstrauss? Both of the ones produced and displayed have been photoshopped forgeries. We still have not seen his original birth certificate, because Il Douche has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers to make sure we don’t get to see his original birth certificate or his college records. I know that newspapers in Kenya and the US published articles about the “Kenyan born Barak Obama” running for and being elected to the IL state senate, and the US Senate. His biography on the jackets of his “auto”biographies stated he was born in Kenya. So, until the dirtbag can come up with a birth certificate that is not forged or photoshopped, the location of his birth is not settled. As for taking the lyin’ king’s word for it, you have got to be kidding.
OK folks, time for us to admit defeat before the overwhelming stats proffered by smrstrauss. 9 out of 10 dentists have agreed, a majority of thoracic surgeons concur, 21 people out of hundreds, one in a million pregnant women, the taller candidate in a political race is more likely to win, the proof is in the pudding, a stitch in time, step on a crack, mary mack dressed in black, how does your garden grow, etc. etc.
All inarguable proof that our Milk-chocolate Leader was born in Hawaii.
Congrats smrstrauss, you’ve won us over.
Now convince us that Obama’s doing right by the economy.
Neither of Obama’s birth certificates are forged. There are simply birther zealots who are willing to claim that they are experts and who repeatedly claim that Obama’s birth certificate is forged. They are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review, or by Mitt Romney, John McCain and Paul Ryan, and Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann and Gingrich and Santorum, Etc.
For good reason. These are people who claim that Obama’s birth certificate is forged because it shows “layers” (but, duh, layers are normal in pdf, and the more complex the document, the more layers) and they claim that it shows “kerning” (but it is not kerning, it is the normal skipping of a manual typewriter), and they claim that Obama’s birth certificate could not show the word “African” for his father’s race because the word used in the USA at the time was “Negro” (but in Hawaii you were allowed to use any word that you wanted, and Obama’s father was from Africa, and the word that African exchange students used to describe their race in ther 1960s was normally “African.”)
So, Obama has shown his birth certificate, and it is not forged, and the officials of BOTH political parties in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they sent both the short form and the long form to Obama, and that all the facts on the image the White House has put online id EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
And, duh, birthers do not even have proof that Obama’s mother had a passport in 1961. They seriously want us to believe that there is a reasonable chance that Obama’s mother traveled at great expense and risk to a foreign country late in pregnancy DESPITE there being a birth certificate for Obama that shows that he was born in Hawaii, without even showing that she had a US passport. (And perhaps one in a million US women traveled internationally late in pregnancy in 1961 due to the high risk of stillbirth). And, no, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. That was simply made up by birther sites that cut off the taped interview just BEFORE she was asked “Where was he born?”
Re: “spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers to make sure we don’t get to see his original birth certificate or his college records.”
Obama has not shown the original birth certificate because the legal copy is the official document. The original stays in the files in Hawaii and is never sent to anyone. As for his college records. He has not spent a cent to hide them. They are preserved as private under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not show their college records either.
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Ahahahahahahaha!
What an impressive sidestepping of the point cited to abet the claim.
Done much self-medication, smrstrauss? Huffed a little sweetleaf, perhaps gobbled down a handful or two of some magic shrooms? It’s the only explanation from the detached, rambling posts made.
Of course Obama wouldn’t show his original birth cert…for a whole lot of reasons…the point being that what the state registrar has proffered as an original is secunda facie fraudulent.
As concerns dubious academic records…again, the suppression is done via middle men with considerable influence. Think not? Then where are they? Where are the records of his SAT and LSAT scores-if they are public record and so stunningly impressive as to secure admittance into these prestigious Ivy League schools? Hmmmm?
Wouldn’t you brag your arse off behind impressive numbers…not to mention possible (but non-existant) press coverage in Hawaii of a favorite son rocking the tests and getting a Harvardian handshake? But…It’s. Not. There.
Explain that.
Riddle the room these questions, smrstrauss. C’mon, bring the substantive smug that Obama backers are known for. What were the objective critieria which secured this man’s entry into such vaunted circles of academe?
And . . .
1. In a simple unedited scan of a document, why would there be layers?
2. Particularly, why would one number in the serial number of the document be pixelated, and others not?
3. As often pointed out, he could have been born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House, and if his parents were not both U.S. citizens (especially the father) he cannot be a “natural born citizen,” which is different from “native born.”
Re: “1. In a simple unedited scan of a document, why would there be layers?”
Answer: There would be layers because ALL documents scanned and put into pdf have layers. PDF uses layers; that is how it works.
Re: “2. Particularly, why would one number in the serial number of the document be pixelated, and others not?”
It has been shown that pdf sometimes pixilates and sometimes doesn’t.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/04/pixelation-is-normal-cold-case-posse-lied/
Re: “3. As often pointed out, he could have been born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House, and if his parents were not both U.S. citizens (especially the father) he cannot be a “natural born citizen,” which is different from “native born.”
Answer: That is what birther CLAIM repeatedly, but they are wrong, repeatedly.
“Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.”—The Wall Street Journal
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”—Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Funny how smrstrauss avoided the really heavy questions and diddled around the edges of the tech stuff.
It has been shown that pdf sometimes pixilates and sometimes doesn’t.
As well as it has bee shown how pixels can be manipulated leading to altered images.
So that’s a push, no?
Next.
“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”—Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
The above being a sentiment of politics without the weight or force of law.
Heart warming though the sentiments expressed are, they remain completely devoid of specific reference to the U.S. constitution and serve as nothing more than a distraction for smrstrauss.
At a minimum, without absolute, affirmative proof of his birth in one of the fifty (or fifty-seven in his case) united states, Obama, being the product of a non-naturalized foreign national father, is a person of dual citizenships and clearly split allegiances, if not absolute affiliation with Kenya rather than the U.S. of A.
Re: “Heart warming though the sentiments expressed are, they remain completely devoid of specific reference to the U.S. constitution and serve as nothing more than a distraction for smrstrauss.”
IF there were a shred of evidence behind the “two-parents-required” theory, at least one of the ten appeals courts Obama’s eligibility was brought to would have found that he was not eligible, but all ten found that he was eligible, and they all did so by referring to the US Supreme Court’s interpretation of the meaning of Natural Born Citizen in the Wong Kim Ark case. In that case, the US Supreme Court ruled, six to two (one justice not voting) that the term comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth, and that every child born in the USA (except for the children of foreign diplomats) is a Natural Born US Citizen. THAT does refer to the US Constitution.
BTW, we have already had at least three presidents before Obama who were either dual citizens when they were president (James Madison was made a full citizen of France) or at their birth (Woodrow Wilson and Dwight D. Eisenhower due to laws of Britain and Germany, yes, Germany, that made either the children of its citizens or the grandchildren of its citizens citizens of that country at birth).
Re “Pixels can be manipulated.” Sure, they can be, but they weren’t.
Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
And it is irrational (to say the least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii. (Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
And now a question for those who still think that Obama COULD have been born in a foreign country:
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?