Argument Clinic – 2006

(news article link via Beth of Yeah, Right, Whatever)
81-year-old Myron Manders was listed by the Social Security Administration as being dead.
His showing up the SSA office to correct the error was insufficient to prove to them otherwise.
A transcript of the discussion – as captured by SSA security tapes of the incident – follows in the extended entry (with apologies to Monty Python)…


MYRON MANDERS: [Knock]
SOCIAL SECURITY: Come in.
MYRON MANDERS: Ah, Is this the right room to prove that I’m alive?
SOCIAL SECURITY: I told you once.
MYRON MANDERS: No you haven’t
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes I have.
MYRON MANDERS: When?
SOCIAL SECURITY: Just now.
MYRON MANDERS: No you didn’t.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes I did.
MYRON MANDERS: You didn’t
SOCIAL SECURITY: I did!
MYRON MANDERS: You didn’t!
SOCIAL SECURITY: I’m telling you I did!
MYRON MANDERS: You did not!!
SOCIAL SECURITY: Oh, I’m sorry, just one moment. Are you actually alive, or just on paper?
MYRON MANDERS: Oh, I’m actually alive.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
MYRON MANDERS: You most certainly did not.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Look, let’s get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
MYRON MANDERS: No you did not.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes I did.
MYRON MANDERS: No you didn’t.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes I did.
MYRON MANDERS: No you didn’t.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes I did.
MYRON MANDERS: No you didn’t.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes I did.
MYRON MANDERS: You didn’t.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Did.
MYRON MANDERS: Oh look, this isn’t helping me prove I’m alive.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes it is.
MYRON MANDERS: No it isn’t. It’s just bureaucratic idiocy.
SOCIAL SECURITY: No it isn’t.
MYRON MANDERS: It is!
SOCIAL SECURITY: It is not.
MYRON MANDERS: Look, you just acted like a bureaucratic idiot.
SOCIAL SECURITY: I did not.
MYRON MANDERS: Oh you did!!
SOCIAL SECURITY: No, no, no.
MYRON MANDERS: You did just then.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Nonsense!
MYRON MANDERS: Oh, this is futile!
SOCIAL SECURITY: No it isn’t.
MYRON MANDERS: I came here to prove that I’m alive.
SOCIAL SECURITY: No you didn’t; no, you came here to update the form that says you’re deceased. Which you can’t do because you’re not alive.
MYRON MANDERS: Whether I’m alive or not isn’t dependant on what’s written on some silly government form.
SOCIAL SECURITY: It can be.
MYRON MANDERS: No it can’t. Being alive is a medical status of continual cardiac, respiratory, and cerebral functionality.
SOCIAL SECURITY: No it isn’t.
MYRON MANDERS: Yes it is! It’s not a bloody checkmark on a form!
SOCIAL SECURITY: Look, dead people are indicated on this form by the word “deceased”, aren’t they?
MYRON MANDERS: Yes, but a scribble on a piece of paper is NOT the same thing as being a lifeless corpse bereft of the aninimating spirit!
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes it is!
MYRON MANDERS: No it isn’t!
SOCIAL SECURITY: Yes it is!
MYRON MANDERS: Life is an ongoing physical process. What’s on the form is merely a subsidiary function of whether I am currently engaged in that process. My continued existence is the controlling factor for what’s on that form.
[short pause]
SOCIAL SECURITY: No it isn’t.
MYRON MANDERS: It is.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Not at all.
MYRON MANDERS: Now look.
SOCIAL SECURITY: [Rings bell] Good Morning.
MYRON MANDERS: What?
SOCIAL SECURITY: That’s it. Good morning.
MYRON MANDERS: I was just getting my point across.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Sorry, the form still says you’re dead.
MYRON MANDERS: I was never dead!
SOCIAL SECURITY: I’m afraid you are.
MYRON MANDERS: I’m not.
[Pause]
SOCIAL SECURITY: I’m sorry, but I’m not allowed to talk to dead people.
MYRON MANDERS: What?!
SOCIAL SECURITY: If you want me change the form to indicate that you’re not dead, you’ll have to be alive to do it.
MYRON MANDERS: Yes, but I am alive! Oh come on!
SOCIAL SECURITY: [Hums]
MYRON MANDERS: Look, this is ridiculous.
SOCIAL SECURITY: I’m sorry, but I’m not allowed to talk to you unless you’re alive… and you pay the “updating the paperwork” fee…
MYRON MANDERS: Oh, all right.
[pays money]
SOCIAL SECURITY: Thank you.
[short pause]
MYRON MANDERS: Well?
SOCIAL SECURITY: Well what?
MYRON MANDERS: You can mark me down as being alive now.
SOCIAL SECURITY: I told you, I’m not allowed to talk to you unless you’re not dead and you pay the fee.
MYRON MANDERS: I just paid!
SOCIAL SECURITY: No you didn’t.
MYRON MANDERS: I DID!
SOCIAL SECURITY: No you didn’t.
MYRON MANDERS: Look, I’m alive and I paid the fee.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Well, you couldn’t have paid, because your file still lists you as being dead.
MYRON MANDERS: Aha! If I’m dead, why are you talking to me? I Got you!
SOCIAL SECURITY: No you haven’t.
MYRON MANDERS: Yes I have. If you’re talking to me, I must be alive and I must have paid.
SOCIAL SECURITY: Not necessarily. I could have stolen this money off your corpse.
MYRON MANDERS: Oh I’ve had enough of this.
SOCIAL SECURITY: No you haven’t.
MYRON MANDERS: Oh Shut up!

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