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Seems a bit harsh to me (though not completely unwarranted). Probably “President Bush + Bill Clinton” is more accurate, but, really, why hasn’t someone put the brakes on the Huck surge by now with all we know of him?
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Seems a bit harsh to me (though not completely unwarranted). Probably “President Bush + Bill Clinton” is more accurate, but, really, why hasn’t someone put the brakes on the Huck surge by now with all we know of him?
So you are saying that he is the love child of Pres Carter and Pres Clinton?
Well I think the comparison to Clinton and Jimmah Carter has more to do with looks than policy.
Something’s wrong with this equation…
There’s no pi. Huck loves pi.
Huckabee is a classic Huckster. See the definition. Perfect fit:
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
[huhk-ster]
1. a retailer of small articles
2. a person who employs showy methods to effect a sale, win votes, etc.: the crass methods of political hucksters.
3. a cheaply mercenary person.
4. Informal.
a. a persuasive and aggressive salesperson.
b. a person who works in the advertising industry, esp. one who prepares aggressive advertising for radio and television.
5. to deal, as in small articles, or to make petty bargains: to huckster fresh corn; to huckster for a living.
6. to sell or promote in an aggressive and flashy manner.
I really don’t understand some of this hostility towards Huckabee.
On Social issues – Abortion, Marriage, Gun Control, he’s 100% where the most of us are.
On security issues, he’s right with us on the need to win the war and secure the borders and the country.
Character issue, he’s a solid Christian whose been married to the same woman for 34 years. That’s a lot better than candidates who are on their second or third wives. (Sorry, if you call yourself the party of family values, you’d better have candidates that practice them.)
There are places that worry me. He doesn’t have a great tax record, but few governors do. I’m not entirely happy with is policy on scholarships for illegals, but I understand his POV on it.
I think the biggest break is that the business community doesn’t like him because he has a populist streak (calling the Club for Growth the Club for Greed.) Frankly, I’ve never been happy with the GOP’s slavish devotion to big corporations who will sell the rest of us out in a heartbeat, and not surprisingly, those big corporations are sending bushels of money to the DNC now. So who’s leaving who here?
The Hawkpugawk is slightly less contrived then the Ron Paul revolution.
“Frankly, I’ve never been happy with the GOP’s slavish devotion to big corporations who will sell the rest of us out in a heartbeat, and not surprisingly, those big corporations are sending bushels of money to the DNC now. So who’s leaving who here? ”
Um, hi there fellow republican person…
Huck, for all his many faults, is at least close to being a conservative on social issues. The other GOP candidates are way too far left on social issues. For voters like me, for whom social issues are more important than other issues, Huck is a plausible choice – until you find out how bad he is on all other issues (that would have been about July for me). It’s a bleak field of candidates. Duncan Hunter seems like he’s got it together, but he has no chance at all.
#5 – Posted by: JoeB131 on December 8, 2007 09:03 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/12/07/video-club-for-growth-lowers-the-hucka-boom/
This thread is an excellent portrayal of everything thats wrong with Huckabee.
The Republican party doesn’t have a slavish devotion to big business, it has a dedication to free market principles. One of the central values of the Republican party….
Fred Thompson however seems to be the only REAL Republican running.
Er, well except Duncan Hunter, but umm I don’t know who he is. I’ve heard rumors that he is running for president, and exists, but I’ve never seen evidence of either claim
Huck is as slick as Willy and as cornpone foolish as Carter(“my soul won’t let me”!?!?) Don’t see the problem with the comparison at all.
Never met a tax hike he didn’t like, never saw a social welfare program he didn’t support and never missed a chance to “nanny” the state’s citizens…what’s not to like?
Its a long time before the election – plenty of time for people to become informed and disillusioned with the Huckster, NY Rudy and Mormon Mitt.
Tancredo and Ron Paul have important points to contribute – but are up against powerful money interests and are long shots at best.
That would leave Thompson and Hunter riding in to the rescue just in time to miss much of the Democrat politics of destruction.
How’s that for a plan?
JoeB131: “I really don’t understand some of this hostility towards Huckabee.”
Joe, perhaps I can help.
– He would be a comprehensive immigration reformer.
– He would raise my taxes.
– He’s a nanny-stater. He wants a federal ban on smoking, and given his issues with diet, he would be after us on that front before too long.
– He’s believes in showing understanding towards the criminal class.
– He believes we should make nice with Iran.
We don’t need a fake conservative, we need a real one.
Hey JoeB131 – Newsflash! Half of all marriages in America end in divorce. It doesn’t make you a bad person. Sometimes it just doesn’t work out – especially in politics. Or maybe Rudy’s exes were a couple of real C – U – Next Tuesdays. Who cares? Nobody held it against Reagan.
And as for reality intrudes’ plan, I’m guessing he’s been working on model airplanes for the last couple of days…
To AR- Free market principles are one thing. A government that makes it easy for greedy corporations to close down factories, put Americans out of work (hey, I guess Wal-Mart’s hiring) and then import toxic product from China, which get on the shelves because the Bush Administration has dismantled the agencies that are supposed to keep that sort of thing from happening isn’t Free Market. It’s a Kleptocracy. Americans are damned upset about this, and we need to get with the program.
Huckabee seems to understand this… The rest have been bought off.
To Bunkerboy- Rudy’s behavior in his marriages was hardly laudible. Exactly how do you get that it was the fault of the wives.
He ended his first marriage because she was his second cousin. Didn’t he KNOW she was his second cousin when he married her? Then he cynically applied for an annulment from the Church on that basis.
His second wife he announced he was divorcing on TV without talking to her about it first, after having several very public affairs. His kids (and the kids usually know who was the dirty bird in a marriage) side with her and hate him. His son isn’t voting for him and his daughter is voting for B. Hussein Obama. If your kids won’t vote for you, why should I?
I agree bunkerboy that just because you have a divorce shouldn’t exclude you from being president. However how they treat there ex-wifes and soon to be ex-wifes can provide insight on the the canidates values and morals. To clarify, Rudy for example…no let us Bob. Bob made a promise and commitment to his wife, the fact that our fake Bob then cheated on her and lied to her and what ever could reflect how he will treat us once he get’s what he wants from us.
Like Mitt’s flip flops, they could be an honest opintion change that came from experience or they could be political changes to get elected. Clearly if it is the first, Great conservitism has another follower, if not well you get the idea.
To Anon T. Mous-
Immigration- He is also for securing the borders and enforcing the laws in the workplace, the two things you really need to do to control the immigration problem. LIke it or not, some of the 12 million already here are going to become citizens eventually.
Huckabee raised taxes, but so did every other governor in the country, and most by a lot more than he did. He also cut a lot of taxes, and eliminated ones that weren’t necessary.
My Dad died of lung cancer, and I’ve recently lost 85 lbs because of concerns about my own health. Like it or not, our bad health habits cost all of us more money actual preventive methods. As a simple cost benefit issue, preventive medicine costs less than actually treating lung cancer and heart disease.
On the criminal class, Huckabee signed off on more executions than any other governor. Yes, he’s also signed off on paroles and commuations. Some like the infamous Wayne Dumond backfired. (Then again, a lot of us on the right made Dumond into a folk hero, so we really don’t have anyone to blame but ourselves.) A lot of others work. Again, the reality is that we have a lot of people in prison who are going to get out. Do want them to become productive members of society, or do we simply want them getting out as embittered men with no job prospects?
Final point- Since going to war with Iran isn’t really an option right now, perhaps diplomacy is in order.
JoeB131, why don’t you just get it over with and vote Democrat?
JoeB, Why don’t we come up with a whole new political system, where we govern the world based on what our dads died of? Don’t you feel pitiful, parading your psychological state around like that? One hundred million people died in the last century at the hands of government intrusion–The Ultimate Addiction. Let’s ban that first, and quibble over your family details later.
Guys, I know this is a humor site, but please don’t attack people personally. That is (generally) not funny.
AuH2O- I’m not parading my psychology around. I just wonder why ANY “conservative” would campaign on the right for the Tobacco industury and the government to get rich off a product that is known to kill 500,000 people a year. It doesn’t make sense to me. It doesn’t make sense that this product is still legal, given what we know about it.
I consider myself a conservative on this issue. It costs billions to treat smoking related illnesses. YOu end up paying for that, either through higher taxes, higher insurance premiums, lost productivity.
To Anon- I bet I have better Republican creditials than you do. I just don’t like to see my party so in the thrall of Corporations that an angry populace runs it out on a rail, which is pretty much what’s happening to it right now, in case you weren’t paying attention in the 2006 election.
Rob- thanks for a bit of common sense. I love IMAO for it’s humor.
Rob: good call.
JoeB131,
Pick your arguments better. Smokers live considerably shorter lives on the average, and because of that less is spent on medical care for a smoker than for a non-smoker.
Okay fellas, you just pat ol’ JoeB’s head for him while he carries the Democrats’ KoolAid to your table. He’s already given you the code-word that Big Food-Fat is coming right after Big Tobacco. You buy that, and Big Auto, Big Energy, Big Alcohol, Big Gunmakers, and Big Book Publishing are next in the barrel. He’s ad-homineming you into serfdom, and you don’t want any “personal attacks.” You’re gonna love it in the camps. There won’t be a single ooh-smelly cigarette butt there.
I’m not sure whether or not I’ll vote for him. We’ve had problems with ex-governors from Arkansas in the past, so maybe I’m a little gun shy.
I also have a problem with his religion baiting. I don’t really care what religion a candidate is as long as he’s proved he isn’t intolerant. The Huckster hasn’t provedn that to me. One wonders how often he will bring it up in the future. It hasn’t really worked too well for him up to now.
to my Doppelganger- I never said “Big Tobacco”. Please try to argue the points I make rather than your silly arguments.
You know, I can pinpoint the EXACT point where Bob Dole lost the 1996 election. It was when he tried to tell Katie Couric that Tobacco wasn’t addictive (a claim even the Tobacco Industry stopped using.) He looked like a stooge for them. ANd yet some Republicans haven’t learned the lesson. The Tobacco industry is Typhoid Mary. No good can come from being their advocates.
I’ve always said the smartest thing the GOP can do is call the Dems on it. “By Gosh, you’re right. It is bad. Let’s ban it altogether and forgoe all those taxes.” I think the Dems are just as guilty as the Tobacco industry, because they happily collect the revenues to pay for all their pet projects (and tax someone else to pay for the treatment of these people.) The Tobacco industry gets rich. Government gets rich. The trial lawyers get rich. Working folks are left holding the bag.
to exhelodrvr, you’ve obviously never had anyone in your family die of Lung Cancer, or you wouldn’t make such foolish statements. That kind of death impoverishes a family. Trust me, been there, done that.
to my Doppelganger- I never said “Big Tobacco”. Please try to argue the points I make rather than your silly arguments.
You know, I can pinpoint the EXACT point where Bob Dole lost the 1996 election. It was when he tried to tell Katie Couric that Tobacco wasn’t addictive (a claim even the Tobacco Industry stopped using.) He looked like a stooge for them. ANd yet some Republicans haven’t learned the lesson. The Tobacco industry is Typhoid Mary. No good can come from being their advocates.
I’ve always said the smartest thing the GOP can do is call the Dems on it. “By Gosh, you’re right. It is bad. Let’s ban it altogether and forgoe all those taxes.” I think the Dems are just as guilty as the Tobacco industry, because they happily collect the revenues to pay for all their pet projects (and tax someone else to pay for the treatment of these people.) The Tobacco industry gets rich. Government gets rich. The trial lawyers get rich. Working folks are left holding the bag.
to exhelodrvr, you’ve obviously never had anyone in your family die of Lung Cancer, or you wouldn’t make such foolish statements. That kind of death impoverishes a family. Trust me, been there, done that.
I apologize for the double post…
“for the Tobacco industury” (sic). Nope, never mentioned it. My silly arguments, which don’t touch on how long the candidates stay married, are simple: (1)You’re just not a conservative, no way no how; (2)Neither is your candidate, so you’re a natural match; (3)Deathbed conversions like what your father died of or how much fat you dropped in your panic are no basis for how to conduct the nation’s business. You & your candidate have this in common as well. I’ve seen many kinds of death, and cancer is not much compared to what you’re trying to bring to us. Your experience has impoverished you in more ways than one. It’s your faith’s place to help with that, not your government’s. That’s all.
I aint votin’ for anybody that looks EXACTLY like the Ranger from the Yogi Bear cartoons.
He is Jimmy Carter — the 1976 version. People forget (not a surprise considering how he was as President) that he ran as the good moral and honest Christian who was also more conservative than that idiot Ford. It was all a big fraud, but he didn’t run as the super leftist he really was in that first election.
That’s Huckabee. He’s conning the social conservatives with his ministry. But he’s a big govt., tax raising, running away from Iran etal., illegal alien amnesty backer, soft on crime, arrogant nanny stater who knows what’s best for us.
Carter Redux.