History is clear: Every time we’re in sight of reform, the special interests start fighting back with everything they’ve got. They use their influence. They run their ads. And let’s face it, they get people scared. And understandably — I understand why people are nervous. Health care is a big deal. In fact, whenever America has set about solving our toughest problems, there have always been those who’ve sought to preserve the status quo by scaring the American people. That’s what happened when FDR tried to pass Social Security — they said that was socialist. They did — verbatim. That’s what they said. They said that everybody was going to have to wear dog tags and that this was a plot for the government to keep track of everybody. When JFK and then Lyndon Johnson tried to pass Medicare, they said this was a government takeover of health care; they were going to get between you and your doctor — the same argument that’s being made today.
BARACK OBAMA, town hall meeting, Aug. 15, 2009
“By the way, Social Security IS socialist, Medicare IS a government takeover of health care, the government DOES get between you and your doctor, and Obamacare SHOULD make you scared, unless you’re in a coma – in which case you’ll soon be unplugged for bugetary reasons.”
YGDFT!YLTATSOTE!
Truth to Power Bacon to burt!
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The Libertarians bizarre opposition to Medicare, which goes back into the 1970’s, is the Ice Pick into the Eye of their pagan religion. You do understand that Libertarianism is a pagan religion don’t you? Well it is. Libertarianism is religion.
People like Harvey would gleefully cut off benefits from people with disabilities, the elderly, the homeless and even people who paid into the Social Security system for 40 years. That is theft.
Now I will admit that the whole system is far from perfect. And there is corruption, but to hand it over to the damned (for all eternity) Libertarians, just so you can have slightly lower taxes, is no different than selling your soul to the Devil who happens to be the very first Libertarian.
Medicare wasn’t intended to be a Government takeover. Not initially anyway. But Obamacare is a whole different ballgame. It is a Communist plot. Barry Sotero is not even the legally elected President of this country.
Personally I see Obamacare, the bad economy and the political landscape as a punishment for nominally part time Christians turning to the damned (for all eternity) Libertarians for salvation.
Gleeful Thieving Tofu to Carpenter!
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By the way, that’s Soylent Tofu, made from the disabled, elderly, homeless, and Social Security recipients.
Throw Grandma Off The Cliff Constitutional Bacon to Harvey!
@5 – …then scrape her up and make Soylent Tofu out of her. Recycling FTW!
We (the People) will finally start recycling the poor after Hillary is elected in 2016. And I know it sounds ghoulish but the Clinton’s will actually stimulate the economy by building a million Protein Reclamation Facilities and Protein Banks. There will be massive job growth in the Gov controlled Protein industry. We need Protein reclamation Police and Protein Bank operators and finally recycled Protein distribution centers.
You’ll fit right in Harvey. I can picture you signing my reclamation order before I’m shoved into the grinder at the Protein Bank.
We The Recycled People TOFU to Carpenter!
Self-administered Unplugged For Budgetary Reasons Bacon to Me!
you know carpenter,you come here with the anti-pagan, anti-libertarian, anti-LaVey, anti-satanic rants and yet you are the most blasphemous individual i have ever encountered.
“Carpenter”. as if you were unaware that “The Carpenter” is a know reference to Jesus Christ.
so yes, carpenter, come to us with your blasphemous nom de web claiming to be Christ himself. Dante puts you in the seventh level. Revelation 21:8 puts you in a lake of burning brimstone. the 1st, 2nd and 3rd commandments seriously frown on this behavior.
we’ll just put you in the soylent green grinder. YGDFT!
harvey doesn’t get to sign your reclamation papers. we’ll have a lottery.
NAACP (honest) (too much?) (actually just one of them folks that carpie loves to hate)
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with your blasphemous nom de web claiming to be Christ himself.
JW,
Boy your really stretching it there! But that whats Libertarians do. They LIE!
I am a Carpenter. That’s what I do. I build things out of wood. And I have been a Carpenter for over 40 years.
I call myself Carpenter because I am a Carpenter. When did I ever claim to be Christ?
You got stop drinking Ron Paul’s bath water. Its rotting your brain.
sure, carpie, whatever you say. Rev 21:8
NAACP
Libertarianism is the Holy Grail of disestablishmentarianism.
Work on that one.
@11 carpie
BTW “…you’re really stretching…” wham goes the grammar hammer.
Rev 21:8
JW,
Here is a good one for you Libertarians to think about.
Romans 13:1-2
New International Version (©2011)
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
or Romans 13:1-2
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
carpie, missed the meds again, didn’t you?
Rev 21:8
So Carpeleh’s nom de web is more Bob Vila…based on his prior literary endeavors I don’t know if I’d hire him to redo the floors in the foyer.
Boy your really stretching it there!
Hold on now…perhaps one shouldn’t be so quick to swing the grammar hammer on the jobsite if the Carpster is remarking on an observation of an incident of onanistic self-entertainment.
Is that the matter to which you refer, Carpster?
@17 Bunkerhillbilly
i noticed that carpie has been posting from about noon to 3:30 pacific time. he told us the other day that he lives in washington state. do you think he can’t keep a job? posting away during prime working hours?
@18 JW
Dunno…seems that people on a jobsite get 30 minutes for lunch…of course Carpeleh could be an indy contractor running on his own slack clock where he is repurposing old bannisters and barn doors out there in blue-state Washington…getting a casual schedule with a 15er in the morning, a lunch break with a 420 consideration, back on the job by 4, another 15er in the late afternoon, then the day’s done and time to roll home for dinner and ranting with Missus Carpeleh and the half-dozen Carplets, each little tyke bitching about their pagan teacher and the abysmal educational system.
JW,
I stopped making a taxable income after Obama became the Resident (no P intended) of the United States.
I don’t need to work. Basically I’m retired and in a few years I will start collecting MY SOCIAL SECURITY that I earned and your taxes will be paying for the Gas in my Motorhome while I cruise around this once great nation.
@19
i could see that, if i had any idea what a 420 consideration was/is. carpie seems to have lots of time for mid-afternoon posting, though.
OK…so Carpeleh, in his Winnebago, watches Jerry Springer and Cheaters in the morning from the satellite dish to get amped up, then, from noon to three PDT, tenaciously hunts down all those eee-vile satanic libertarian websites and pops in here to play raging blatherskite.
Got it.
TYVM for the clarification.
carpie,
oh, so now you’re NOT a carpenter, you USED to be a carpenter. but you aren’t alluding to Christ, you’re just calling yourself something that use used to be.
and now you are a parasite, roaming around taking money from workers, justified ’cause you claim to have worked once.
Rev 21:8
@21 JW
Look up “420 friendly”…has to do with the inhalation of sweetleaf.
Figure with the recent legalization out in Washington that work efforts are a touch more casual than say on some east-coast jobsites.
Hey! HE EARNED THAT SOCIAL SECURITY!
You god-d*amned f*cking thieves. You Libertarians truly are the scum of the earth!
Carpeleh sounds like he’s going to do a modified Kwai Chang Kane/Kung Fu thing where he roams the country in his Winnebago, playing John Denver eight-tracks, solving the townsfolks’ ills by putting up wall paneling and whipping out things on his portable lathe.
@24 Bunkerhillbilly
(blushing) why you try to corrupt me, sir!
@25 and Jimmy joins in!
RON PAUL!
Get with it, jw.
@29 and 24
anyone think carpie will take his 90 y/o mommy with him in the winnebago? or does she get dumped off somewhere despite that whole 5th commandment thingy?
does he have to follow the commandments? i mean his daddy wrote ’em.
anyone think carpie will take his 90 y/o mommy with him in the winnebago?
Priory school taught me that His mother was taken up, bodily, into Heaven…hence Kwai Chang Carpenter could be mommy-free in his Winnebago Warriorhood.
@31
i don’t know. April 21, 2013 carpie alludes to his 90 y/o mother as if she is still with us in the corporeal world. of course, since he is The Carpenter he may have access that we mere mortals do not.
Now, just wait, you guys. I might need me some sheet rockin’ done… studs do need replacin’… gotta leak in the house roof… Needs me a god-fearing carpenter to fix it up, I do. Someone at peace, you know, waitin’ for the Lord… collectin’ his earned social security and medicare money while using those rightful taxpayer’s dollars for gasoline to drive over here in his big moto home. All his tools, and lathe, and carpenter stuff and such. I sure hope he ain’t no libertarian type carpenter. I wouldn’t cotton to that! Those folks are G-D fricken thieves, they are. Scum of the earth, they be! Why, I wouldn’t hire a libertarian if you gave me the money. Well, you could give me the money. but I just wouldn’t hire the scum!! I’d use it for gasoline.
Perhaps Kwai Chang Carpenter referred to Her manifestational appearances at Lourdes which took place close to 100 years ago.
I know it couldn’t be Medjugorje becaust that was back in June of ’81.
@33 Jimmy
Sure, yeah, ye be wantin’ a righteous man to swing a hammer and do an honest day’s work as Scripture directs…but would said honest day’s work include a THREE hour break for lunch and a heaping brown spadeful of ranting in cyberspace?
Does YOUR workday clock include such generosities with an employer’s time?
@35 but it’s ongoing, n’est pas?
@37
Yep…and we are talking about virgin birth here…Carpeleh may have abandonment issues…busy absentee Father seen as genuinely caring but otherwise occupied with business and matters at law.
@36 – I’m running out of ways to point out the error of his ways, Bunker. Oh, and I’m self-employed, so, go figure.
I wonder if Carpenter is aware of the five year-old history of RON PAUL! discussions here? While they have waned of late, there used to be great wordy battles between regulars and Google drop-ins using using sharply-pointed word sticks. Frank used to go out of his way to attract the Paulites with a post that included the words “RON PAUL!” (usually in the title and body) and then – boom! – the Conservatives here would shoot them down, mainly due to their looney, Ron Paul foreign policies. Comments well into the 100’s could ensue. I think Frank loved it.
So, IMAO is known for it’s Conservative Republican – not Libertarian – bent. But as all good Republicans know, there’s a little Jeffersonian in all of us, particularly regarding economics and law. So, yeah, in many ways, I think most of here are a little “Libertarian” at heart. It’s part of “Republicanism.”
So, anyway, it’s been fun, Carpenter – but I actually don’t think you get it. Unless you’re a commenter playing a game of masquerade, in which case, Bravo!
RON PAUL!
hmmm, no carpie in nearly 2 1/2 hours. and i was just about to count up commandments he has broken here. maybe next time.
For 49 years I maxed out the social security payments.
I got busted up in nam including exposure to agent orange
I get disability social security for back, hip, and leg injuries.
I get 70% VA payment for for Nam and Agent Orange damage
Would Carp remind me what I’m stealing again or what it is is that I’m not worthy of.
Harvey please moderate
remove the last word please.
[Done. – Harvey]
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So, anyway, it’s been fun, Carpenter – but I actually don’t think you get it. Unless you’re a commenter playing a game of masquerade, in which case, Bravo!
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Of course I get it. And it is fun. I just like picking on the religion of Liberal-tarianism. Old habits die hard. I have been laughing at Libertarians since the early 1980’s.
You have to understand that Liberal-tarianism is more than just a political ideology. It is a complete system of thought. Its a complete way of life. It is a religion. Liberal-tarianism answers all the questions and like Christianity the main Liberal-tarian message is SALVATION.
He that Believeth in Ron Paul shall be saved from Bush or Obama or the Clintons or….
Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and Liberal-tarianism all have their own unique Gods. There are Liberal-tarian Prophets, Commandments, Priests, Holy writings and Saints. The Liberal-tarians even have their own prophetic eschatology which is designed to scare the unbeliever into supporting them. It really is a religion.
I guess that makes Ron Paul the Pope of Dope.
Best.
Comment.
Thread.
Ever.
Bacon to everyone except Carpie!
Wow.
To think that Carpeleh does all this from behind the wheel of his Winnebago.
Talk about a raging case of white line fever.
Goes beyond mainlining Vivarin and double espressos, it does.
We’ll wait, with breath held tightly in our lungs, for the stories about a peripatetic handyman walking across the surface of above-ground swimming pools to break in the National Enquirer.
Dear RAML,
Thank you for your service. Unlike Carpenter, you actually earned your Social Security.
– Vietnam-era sub sailor (who avoided agent orange under the ocean)
RAML – Ditto from a Cold War aircraft carrier snipe.
48 RAML thanks from me, too. no service here, but i worked some VA hospitals. i hope i was one of the good guys.