Maybe having unarmed cops is a dumb idea, Britain.
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the problem with The War on Terror is that only the terrorists are fighting a war. we have some sort of police action, social work thing going. meanwhile, the best of us is being ground up like sausage while the general populace pays lip service to supporting our troops, but aside from meaningless vocal display the real support is fading. our politicians and media talk about exit strategy. the exit strategy needs to be win then come home. in order to win we must define our strategic goal and not confuse it with our tactical goal. one of the the hard won and already forgotten lessons of vietnam.
A question occurs to me: did the police officers not even have tasers and billysticks or were they just too afraid to do something? Just how unarmed were these officers? Surely a taser would be enough to stop someone with a machete, right?
@2 AR if you read to the bottom of the linked article, the first police to arrive were unarmed. the armed police arrived later and were attacked. they shot the murders when they were attacked.
it is my understanding that the average policeman is unarmed and special teams are called when wanted. it seems very strange to me, especially considering that the only time i was there was around 1984 and i sat in heathrow watching two cops make the rounds. one openly carried a submachine gun across his belly and the other had on a full length coat. god only knew what, if anything, he was carrying under the coat and god wasn’t telling.
It is a bad idea. However, if the public isn’t allowed to be armed, I’d just as soon the cops weren’t either. Right now, I trust and appreciate the police, but I wouldn’t fear jail if I didn’t. That’s how it should be in a free society. In a place like Japan where the police have a monopoly on force, that kind of trust is impossible — you have to settle for shared fear.
Guns are illegal there, duh, so there aren’t any guns to give them!
They could at least give them knives, those are still legal there, right?
Maybe if they rode their unicorns, they could train them to stab unruly criminals with the horn. It’s long and pointy like a knife but it won’t scare people as much.
A few comments about the sidearm silhouette shown in the above graphic: is that an automatic with the slide in the retracted position indicative of the weapon being empty or is it just an old school Daisy pellet gun? From a pro-Irish perspective, either, in the hand of a Brit, is preferrable, but from a point of encouraging open carry…ummm, maybe not.
Why not use a Webley silhouette, or one of the Walther PPK or U.S. M1911 .45?
the problem with The War on Terror is that only the terrorists are fighting a war. we have some sort of police action, social work thing going. meanwhile, the best of us is being ground up like sausage while the general populace pays lip service to supporting our troops, but aside from meaningless vocal display the real support is fading. our politicians and media talk about exit strategy. the exit strategy needs to be win then come home. in order to win we must define our strategic goal and not confuse it with our tactical goal. one of the the hard won and already forgotten lessons of vietnam.
sorry harvey. i forgot the funny on this one.
A question occurs to me: did the police officers not even have tasers and billysticks or were they just too afraid to do something? Just how unarmed were these officers? Surely a taser would be enough to stop someone with a machete, right?
@2 AR if you read to the bottom of the linked article, the first police to arrive were unarmed. the armed police arrived later and were attacked. they shot the murders when they were attacked.
it is my understanding that the average policeman is unarmed and special teams are called when wanted. it seems very strange to me, especially considering that the only time i was there was around 1984 and i sat in heathrow watching two cops make the rounds. one openly carried a submachine gun across his belly and the other had on a full length coat. god only knew what, if anything, he was carrying under the coat and god wasn’t telling.
It is a bad idea. However, if the public isn’t allowed to be armed, I’d just as soon the cops weren’t either. Right now, I trust and appreciate the police, but I wouldn’t fear jail if I didn’t. That’s how it should be in a free society. In a place like Japan where the police have a monopoly on force, that kind of trust is impossible — you have to settle for shared fear.
YGDFT!YLTATSOTE! That is the best advice I’ve seen in a long time.
Guns are illegal there, duh, so there aren’t any guns to give them!
They could at least give them knives, those are still legal there, right?
Maybe if they rode their unicorns, they could train them to stab unruly criminals with the horn. It’s long and pointy like a knife but it won’t scare people as much.
Shared Fear Bacon to seanmahair!
http://tinyurl.com/YGDFTYLTATSOTE
And bacon to Zeke for the phrase “shared fear”.
A few comments about the sidearm silhouette shown in the above graphic: is that an automatic with the slide in the retracted position indicative of the weapon being empty or is it just an old school Daisy pellet gun? From a pro-Irish perspective, either, in the hand of a Brit, is preferrable, but from a point of encouraging open carry…ummm, maybe not.
Why not use a Webley silhouette, or one of the Walther PPK or U.S. M1911 .45?
Just askin’.