Something Fishy About Ron Paul

It’s a well established fact Ron Paul can perform literal acts of magic that wow and woo his avid/rabid followers. His supporters, By and Large, (their actual names) have sworn to give their very lives at his command. They both work tirelessly to spread the troof about the wonderland a Ron Paul led free world would be. They also adjust internet polls to correct for the silent majority.
Ah, the crisp smell of a freshly restored U.S. Constitution is quite an enticing idea. We all bicker about those idiotic amendments and the Bill of rights anyway. They weren’t in the original document so they really have tainted the Republic. Any present day Thomas Jefferson would tell you that.
That’s not what’s got me bothered. It’s his voice. With every sentence he speaks the pitch rises. For a 2 minute debate answer it doesn’t get too terribly painful. But can you imagine what would happen towards the end of a State Of The Union address? Don’t bother, I can. T.V. tubes shattering, dogs howling in pain, vermin of all sorts running for their lives, eardrums bursting, bridges failing, the crust of the earth cracking in half. Is it worth it to destroy the planet, just to save the Republic? That’s a question we’ll need to answer.
Plus he was a gynecologist, which doesn’t necessarily make him a pervert, but it’s not so easy to wash your hands of that sort of activity. I’d like to think that the era of a having a resident of the White House who has been up close and personal with hundreds of hoohoos, chichis or whatever the technical term is, ended when Hillary moved out.

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  1. I didn’t know Ron Paul was a gynecologist. I’ve always wondered what mental process went on in the minds of gynecologists. I mean, being a man (John Edwards excluded) and having a job where you look at…ummm, well you know…all day long yet can’t close the deal on any of them? If Ron Paul’s any indication, apparently it does make you crazy.

  2. I am not a Ron Paul supporter, however, I believe that is is wrong to launch such personal attacks. Even though I’ve been a Republican for all my life, I find that Ron Paul’s ideas are very attractive. He seems to be the only true conservative in the race and I think it’s beneath us conservative Republicans to not listen to his ideas instead of making fun of him.
    Not A Ron Paul Supporter

  3. ….AND STOAP STOP ALL FOREN FOREIN FORGENE…OVERSEAS INTERVENTIONS!!L1!!!11
    WE ARE DOOMED…DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMEEEEDD WITHOUT OUR LORD PROTECTOR RON PAUL. dO YOU HJEAR ME?!?!?1
    DOOOOOOOOMED!!!!111!!!1

  4. Ahem. It looks like you like to twist things. Dr. Paul is an OB doctor, a baby doctor. And yes OB doctors usually are OBGYN.
    I don’t know why doctors go into Obstetrics, but I assume it is because they have a soft heart and like babies. I wouldn’t automatically assume the kinds of things you have implied–or use them to take a manipulative, but insubstantial cheap shot at someone.
    Dr. Paul has been married to his wife for 50 years, and they have 5 children (3 of whom are doctors), 18 grandchildren, and 1 great grandchild. This doesn’t really fit in with the unwholesome image you have tried to portray.

  5. Ron Paul’s supporters are like the Underpants Gnomes. You never actually see them, you see evidence of them.
    For example, I’ve never seen a Ron Paul supporter, but the traffic light poles on Haynes Bridge Road (Exit 9 off GA 400) are covered with Ron Paul stickers. I never saw anyone putting them up. They were suddenly just there. This is part of Ron Paul’s three-phase plan to win the Presidency:
    1. Put up stickers.
    2. ?
    3. Presidency.
    It’s crazy enough that it might just work.

  6. #10, Ron Paul is a baby doctor? I’ve seen him on TV and he just looks too old to be considered a baby, that’s probably an adult diaper you see and that’s got you confused. Also the incoherant babbling is rather babylike, so I can’t fully fault you for your assumption.
    You say you think Ron Paul ‘likes’ babies. The go on to list how many children he has. You insinuate he ‘liked’ them from time to time when they were babies. Oh and you mention the 18 grandchildren, are you hinting that he ‘liked’ them every now and them when THEY were babies? And the greatgrandbaby…ugh. You are just disgusting.
    No, its your insinuations are what are sickening.

  7. #10 – Posted by: smtwngrl on October 26, 2007 10:42 AM
    PaulBot! OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I love paulBots, they are so fun to mess around with. I’ve been hoping for a Ron Paul Thread, you know if you say Ron Paul that they will appear.

  8. “Keep up the good work guys!
    This stuff is gonna work GREAT.
    Go Fred!
    FredHeads Unite at FredThompsonForum.com”
    #17 – Posted by: Barney on October 26, 2007 11:12 AM
    We’ve seen this trick before, nitwit. We all know FredThompsonForum.com is a Paulbot front, full of Nazism and trooferism, because, you know, its full of Ron Paul Supporters. Who support Ron Paul, who are Nazis, democrats and troofers for the most part… as in its not actually a Fred Thompson Forum, but rather a piece of ignorant, Nazi liberal conspiracy theorist trash, just like most Ron Paul Supporters..
    If I’m not being clearer, Ron Paul supporters are NAZIS (racist), LIBERALS(dumb), DEMOCRATS(ignorant), and TROOFERS (gullible).
    Ron Paul himself is a loon, dumb, and annoying.

  9. I thought it was:
    1. Spam internet polls.
    2. ?
    3. Presidency!!!!1!1!11!1
    or
    1. Post delusional screeds on how Ron Paul! is the savior of the universe on any post that could possibly construed as referencing him! even if it’s not by name.
    2. ?
    3. Presidency!!!!1!1!11!1

  10. This blog is a shrine to the ill-researched and brainwashed neocon-humping anti-American STARK-RAVING TINFOIL-GARGLING FANATICS who feel a need to attack the rest of us who actually care about this country.

  11. I support Ron Paul for who he is, and not the disease he carries. Which is anthrax. That he plans on using. On babies. Your babies.
    Remember that kids, a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for anthrax babies.
    You don’t… HATE… America… do you?
    Hey monkey, how many babies can Ron Paul infect with anthrax in one 15 minute sitting? I’ll say 32.

  12. I am a Dr. Paul supporter.
    I think I am wasting my time here, but I would like to invite a debate by any of you anti-paulites to discuss any of Paul’s ideas. If you think he’s crazy about getting rid of the Federal Reserve and going back to a precious-metal based currency, which has historically been gold, I invite you to google “Alan Greenspan ‘Gold and Economic Freedom'”. You see, Greenspan also thinks the Fed should be abolished and that we should go back to a gold standard. Crazy, eh?
    What about abortion? You are probably aware that Dr. Paul is against abortion but did you know he’s got new ideas about how to fight Roe v Wade? Congress could write a law removing the issue from federal court jurisdiction, thus negating Roe v Wade. The current effort is to put in “constructionist” judges and that hasn’t worked in 30 years. It brings to mind the quote – “If you keep doing things the same way, you’re gonna keep getting the same result.” With 29 million babies killed since Roe v Wade, nearly 20x the number of men lost in all wars since 1776, I think it is time for a different approach.
    What about illegal immigration? No amnesty for illegals and an end to birthright citizen ship are a good start. Who’s stand is that? Oh yeah, Dr. Paul.
    If you have any other problems with his policies I encourage you to bring them up so we can debate them. Calling Dr. Paul or his supporters moonbats isn’t a very constructive debate and it will get the Republican party nowhere. We’re already losing the donation battle 3-1 against the Democrats. We’re gonna get destroyed in the general election unless we pull together and put a good message forward. The status quo won’t cut it in 2008.
    About Iraq and “Islamic Terrorists” – we’re on track to spend $2.4 trillion dollars on this mess, and that’s if we stay out of Iran. A terrorist, tomorrow, could cross across the border from Mexico, steal a propane or liquid-hydrogen tanker truck and blow it up in any downtown city in this country. The resultant explosion is calculated to be able to completely destroy 10 square city blocks. My question is – are we getting a good investment out of the Iraq war or would that money have been better spent over here protecting our interests at home? The numbers for Al Qai’da have doubled or tripled since our invasion, according to our own government’s reports, so I don’t think it has been very successful as a means to destroy terrorism overseas.
    -Christopher Burch

  13. Oh, no, Karen, we DO care about this country – enough to make spiteful hash out of a paranoid schizophrenic, conspiracy-driven, constitution-thumping, brain-dead isolationist, old hack who attracts like-minded, whacked-out, creepy $hit-for-brain, neo-hippie-fascist-60’s wannabe’s.

  14. Christopher, I openly challenge you to a debate to discuss how many babies Ron Paul can kill with his anthrax in a 15 minute setting.
    Karen, I openly challenge you to sleep with me.
    Monkey, I openly challenge you to drink 3 colon blows in 5 minutes.
    Pinky, I challenge you to find a better description of Karen. It’ll be hard, but you’re up to the task. I’ll sleep with her to get details.
    Chris, I challenge you to find proof of prision sodomy in regard to the charges prepending against monkey.
    THIS is progress America! Set an agenda and go forth!

  15. Christopher: thanks for the eloquent and respectful post. I will do the same in reply.
    For my part, I cannot hear a single thing Mr. Paul says without thinking of the crazy people he supports and associates with. So, when Ron Paul and his supporters drop and completely disavow the lunatic “truthers” who surround him, then– and only then– will anyone with any rational thought process begin to listen to anything he has to say.
    It may be true that Mr. Paul has lots of wonderful ideas, but no one with a rational brain will listen to any of them so long as he supports and associates with “truther” morons.
    We are judged by the company we keep. Period. Mr. Paul surrounds himself with certifiably insane people and that is what the overwhelming majority of normal people perceive.
    In short: If truther = lunatic, then supporter-associate-of-truther = lunatic.

  16. So what’s the deal here? Any time we mention anything about Ron Paul, a slew of Pauliticians show up here & start expounding the virtues of “Dr. Paul”.
    It’s like they just keep Googling his name over & over, and when a new hit comes in, they start IMing each other about who to comment spam for not being a supporter.
    And yes, Christopher, you are wasting your time here, just as you are being a Paulbot. But I’ll tell you what: the next time a terizt comes across & blows up 10 city blocks with a propane truck, I’ll pay more attention to you Ronulans, ‘K?

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  18. About Iraq and “Islamic Terrorists” – we’re on track to spend $2.4 trillion dollars on this mess, and that’s if we stay out of Iran.

    How much is the life of an innocent worth? How much would you have spent to prevent 9-11? How much more expensive would it be to depend on first responders to clean up afterwards for the next 20-30-40 years of IRA style terrorist attacks?

    A terrorist, tomorrow, could cross across the border from Mexico, steal a propane or liquid-hydrogen tanker truck and blow it up in any downtown city in this country.

    The fact that it hasn’t is because:
    1) Existing precautions have prevented it or made it harder
    2) The bad guys are too busy fighing in, according to Al Qai’da’s own statements, the main battlefield against America (Iraq).
    3) We’ve been lucky.
    One and three could happen whether we were in there or not and two would be BECAUSE we were there. Let’s just call it a wash.

    The resultant explosion is calculated to be able to completely destroy 10 square city blocks. How much would that cost?

    Where’d you get this figure? Loose Change? State your source.

    My question is – are we getting a good investment out of the Iraq war or would that money have been better spent over here protecting our interests at home?

    You just stated that someone could easily blow up 10 city blocks. How would you protect our interests? Put a cop on each corner? Build a big wall along both borders with guard towers every 100 feet?

    The numbers for Al Qai’da have doubled or tripled since our invasion, according to our own government’s reports, so I don’t think it has been very successful as a means to destroy terrorism overseas.

    Hmmmm, that’s funny, because according to Al Qai’da’s sources they’re in a hurt locker. Their leadership’s been decimated, their communication has become spotty, the local population is turning against the rank and file and recruits are mostly comimg via Iran and Syria.
    Bunker mentality never wins wars. This crap about how we’re the best thing for Al Qai’da recruiting is just that…CRAP! One main reason that we suffered 9-11 is because we DIDN’T take the fight to them, on THEIR turf, after the first attacks against us. Spain, Phillipines, Britain have all suffered an Al Qui’da attack since the invasion. If the bad guys were so truly pissed and numerous and our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq were so unsuccessful why haven’t they hit us?
    Maybe they’re just waiting for “The Paul” to win knowing that he’d pull all troops out of the Middle East so that they wouldn’t have any grievances with us and lay down their arms.

  19. To all the other rational posters….sorry for feeding the troll but to paraphrase an ancient Norse quote:
    “Honor comes, not in defeating ignorance*, but in taking up arms against it.”
    (* the original quote used the word “evil”)

  20. I just don’t know what can really be called “crazy” these days! On the one hand, Paul is called crazy by the media because he supports an idea that they can’t wrap their minds around – that actions have consequences we sometimes don’t anticipate. At the same time, they prop up candidates like Rudy who married his second cousin, (he thought it was only a third cousin), divorced his second wife via press-conference, and he routinely dresses in drag. Most people would associate all of those actions with the business of crazy folks yet there is hardly a mention of it in the media.
    You know how every time a media person starts a talk about Dr. Paul with something like “and long-shot candidate…” or “and isolationist Republican..” or “and dark-horse candidate…” or whatever – I’d start every discussion about Giuliani with “and cousin screwing…” or “And the cross-dressing candidate…” or “the complete womanizing ass candidate…”! That would perhaps be a little bit fairer to Paul but that is not how the system works. They pick their guy and then bend us into mentally accepting it while downplaying that guys weaknesses. That’s not a conspiracy theory, that’s just human psychology.
    Unfortunately I’ve got a friend that is one of those “truthers”. It is frustrating to talk to him and I tell him he is probably better off not campaigning for Dr. Paul. It is very easy to campaign for Dr. Paul just on his stand on the issues without ever mentioning anything about the possibility that our government occasionally might do stuff that is in-humane in its effort to advance “the greater good”. Actually, if Dr. Paul thought 9/11 was really a conspiracy, it would not really help his case that our foreign policy is to blame in causing terrorism. Dr. Paul repeatedly quotes the 9/11 commission report, papers from the CIA, and Osama Bin Laden, all three of which are purported to be government-faked cover-ups by the “truthers”. Also, Dr. Paul is not in the least bit internet-savy and as far as I know the whole “truther” phenomenon takes place in cyberspace. He’s probably not even aware of how big or annoying it really is!
    That said, the “truthers” love him because one of the ass leaders of their movement found out that Ron was at a party that they were both at, got a camera on the two of them and started asking Dr. Paul questions about 9/11 to try and get support for their movement. The “truthers” thought he was supporting their movement, the media thought he was supporting the “truthers”, and Dr. Paul probably didn’t think anything big of any of it! If you want a true conspiracy-crazy follower, go to Kunicrazy’s camp. That’s where the hardcore ones go.
    I think you are underestimating the support of Dr. Paul among people with “rational brains”. Don’t let those vocal and annoying truthers distract you from real truths – we really can’t afford Iraq in either lives or dollars, we can’t afford social security and medicare, our currency is really depreciating in value and at an alarming rate, and the media really are truly biased in who they cover. Look up “Frank Luntz Penn and Teller” in you tube to see how pollsters can show completely different public opinions on the same issue from the same people. Look up “Chris Wallace Ron Paul” to see how Fox sets up Dr. Paul with loaded debate questions about Al Qai’da to try to discredit Dr. Paul, even going so far as to have a laugh track from the other questioner and a split screen showing Rudy’s reaction. That’s not a conspiracy folks, that’s fact. “YouTube reports, you decide.”
    -Christopher Burch
    Also:
    One libertarian blog, lewrockwell.com, even pointed out that we could afford 2.4 million Woodstock museums for the price of one Iraq war. His point was that calling Democrats “fiscally liberal” was somewhat misleading since the current Republicans in power are trying to finance something that is more fiscally dangerous, by an order of hunderds or millions of magnitude more, than some of Hillary’s crazy ideas. What’s even funnier about the Woodstock earmark is that it was backed by a billionaire Republican who routinely donates to both parties. Dr. Paul is head and shoulders above the candidates from either party in his knowledge of the economics of this country and has a very clear plan to implement his changes. It is not near as radical as it sounds either… you have to go read his issues page to get a true understanding of where he really stands on everything. He has a 20 year record in Congress that stands open for all to read as a witness to his adherence to his platform.

  21. To answer FormerHostage:
    I’m a truck driver and we’ve been told by the Federal Department of Transportation to be extra-vigilant with regards to truck theft and terrorism. Apparently 3 loaded propane trucks have been stolen without a trace since 2001. That’s where I’m getting my data from.
    As far as the destructive power of a liquid-hydrogen tanker blowing up, I honestly can’t say what it would do as I haven’t tried it myself. However, I have a friend who used to haul them and that amount of destruction is what he could expect to cause if the cooling system for the tanker ever failed to work. Liquid-hydrogen is one of the most unstable things on earth. It has to be kept several hundreds of degrees below 0 degrees celcius, under pressure, and it will react violently with nearly anything. So yes, 40,000 lbs of liquid hydrogen could cause a pretty big bang.
    As far as an investment to save lives goes, the Iraq war truly is a disaster. We’ve killed an extra 4,000 Americans and wounded over 25,000 more, not even counting those yet to suffer from PTSD, than we lost on 9/11. Some of our soldiers are on their 4th tour of duty now and that is very unfair. The “war on terror” has lasted 6 years now and we have accomplished very little by historic warfare standards. WWII lasted just four years and we basically fought war across the entire globe and were victorious. If we spent 2.4 trillion dollars on educating American drivers on how to drive defensively I am 100% sure that we’d be saving more in lives and property loss damages than we would ever get back from this war. That’s just one of many things that come to mind that would have made a better investment.
    -Christopher Burch

  22. Hey Christopher Burch….heres a news flash! The war on terror will never be over. Not unless you have a super-nifty button that will instantly kill all muslim extremists, and if you do, I want it so I can River-Dance on top of it….while drinking a Miller…and listening to Twisted Sister! that would be awesome!

  23. I chock up the Paulian lack of humor to years of political sensory deprivation. It’s like they’re all OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder) types and can’t help themselves. Or a sad form of nihilism with-a-twist.

  24. Paulbots make me laugh. I was hoping one of them would get all foamy mouthed at me calling them Nazi Liberal Democrat Troofers… I guess you can’t get angry at someone calling you what you are.
    Seriously though, Ron Paul is a coward, we have to fight everywhere we can against the evil of the Islamic Extremists, and all other oppressive forces we can. You call yourselves libertarians, but you only seem to care about your own liberty, when its some faceless Arab being oppressed you couldn’t care less.

  25. You know what… you’re a bunch of assholes.
    I’d think the whole thing was funny except for the fact that we live in such a sensory-deprived condition today that we don’t seem to realize that Muslims are real people, that soldiers are really getting blown to bits in Iraq, that we think torture is not just some fun thing to watch on “24” but we think it is actually an effective way to combat terrorism. It isn’t just you assholes either. I expect that kind of nonsense shit from a juvenile satire politics board. It is the fact that we’ve got politicians running who talk about bombing Iran as if they were going to go to the grocery store and others that want to “double gitmo” and still others that say “oh, if I’ve got a terrorist and I think he knows information, I’m calling in Jack Bauer!”. It isn’t a joke anymore when politicians are asking for Jack Bauer when they want to interrogate someone.
    True, I didn’t realize this was a satire board when I made my first post. But the sad fact is that I couldn’t tell it apart from any of the non-satire boards. Such is the state of political discussion on conservative blogs these days. The Republican party is doomed as is the country.
    -Christopher Burch

  26. Summoning Ronulans is easier then having Hillary summon demons, and works the same way. You just mention he who’s name shall not be spoken three times on your blog, and they appear. Unfortunately, unlike Hillary if you get Ron Paul to say his name backwards three times, he doesn’t dissapear.
    In fact, I propose IMAO add “Ron Paul demented datums!” to the Terrable Truths and Fabulous Facts.

  27. Hey Burcher…careful, your liberal is showing.
    If you realllly want to see people showing disrespect or indifference to soldiers (and Marines) go to Huffpo, Kossack, or DUmmies.
    Conservatives DO seem to realize all the talking points you just spouted (or cut and pasted from your Libs for Paul site). The difference is that we also realize that just wishing bad things to go away won’t work. We also realize that liberals think most of America is populated by gap-toothed idiots otherwise Joe Average would be chomping at the bit to elect a Dem. Therefore libs need to lie and obfuscate and throw out strawmen. Just speekin’ trooth to power dude. After all, isn’t dissent (from liberal tripe) patriotic?

  28. Brain,
    cool idea.
    RP Demented Datum:
    – If people disagree with your ideas, SHOUT LOUDER!
    – Spamming internet polls won’t get your guy elected, but it’ll make you feel better about not having a real social life.
    – Ron Paul would abolish Income Tax. Jihadiis would abolish freedom…eh…it’s a wash.

  29. Christopher – You’re right. There’s absolutlely nothing funny about Ron Paul or the people who support him…except just about everything that comes out of their mouths…and that vacuous look in their eyes…oh, and they way they dress…gringo.

  30. Christopher, Muslims are people, Muslim Extremists have to be killed. You cant win ther hearts and minds, they want us dead… its kill or be killed, I’m sorry you dont understand that, I really am…… Soilders die in combat. Welcome to reality, If someone jions the military for a paycheck in the hopes of never going to a conflict, there an asshole! and before you ask, yes I jioned the Marines right out of highschool. I took the oath, I know what it meant! Thankfully, from 1993-1997 i was not sent anywhere to fight. But you can bet your ass I knew it was a possibility. We have two different ideas about how to defend and keep America safe, just becaus you disagree with me does not make me an asshole. And once again, this is a satire blog…be funny, don’t be an asshole!

  31. #49 – Posted by: Christopher Burch on October 26, 2007 02:50 PM
    Stupid PaulBot, it seems your world view is “Fascism is okay as long as I’m not its victim”. As this is the platform of Ron Paul himself, it is no surprise.

  32. True, I didn’t realize this was a satire board when I made my first post.
    #49 – Posted by: Christopher Burch on October 26, 2007 02:50 PM

    That’ll learn ya’ not to just click links posted on a PaulBot site!

  33. I’m a truck driver and we’ve been told by the Federal Department of Transportation to be extra-vigilant with regards to truck theft and terrorism. Apparently 3 loaded propane trucks have been stolen without a trace since 2001. That’s where I’m getting my data from.
    If you’re a truck driver, then Ron Paul is a viable candidate! That 3 truck number is a troofer meme. If you’d really had notice from the “Federal Department of Transportation” (or as everyone else who isn’t a liberal calls it – DoT) then you’d know that more than 3 propane trucks have been stolen and most have been recovered. The missing ones are more than likely in Mexico where there’s a big black market for propane.

  34. “…we live in such a sensory-deprived condition today…”
    #49 – Posted by: Christopher Burch on October 26, 2007 02:50 PM
    That’s was my claim in #46. You’re suffering from classic “disallusionment.” You’re just NOW waking up to the fact the world isn’t very nice? Where you been to be so sensory-deprived? In a cave?
    Guy, you’ve got absolutely no clue as to what’s behind all the humor here. That, too, would shock the hell out of you. Either overcome your deprivation real fast, or find your senses elsewhere.

  35. I’m sorry guys I’ll leave. I’m gonna take a parting shot though.
    Our foreign policy has either directly or indirectly put nearly every terrorist organization and dictator in power in the middle east since WWII. We removed a democratically elected leader via CIA coup in 1953 in Iran and put a shaw(king) in place and armed a police force to protect him that was more or less like Germany’s SS. This caused the revolt in 1979 where they overthrew the shaw and our embassy. In Afghanistan we funded the Taliban’s fight against the USSR. We’ve got bases in the “holy land” of Saudi Arabia which is a rallying cry for Al Qai’da to get support from the Muslims(15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudis). We backed Saddam Hussein in his attack of Iran in the 80’s (over 1 million Iraqis and Iranians died in that conflict). We actually supported Saddam up to the moment he invaded Kuwait. Then we set up a disastrous “food for oil” program via the U.N. which is estimated to have starved 100,000 people in Iraq. Today, in Iraq, we are paying for and training the police force in Iraq that is responsible for much of the sectarian violence in and around Baghdad. We are supporting the dictatorship in Pakistan. We are supporting the ruling body in Saudi Arabia while the Saudi government disperses funds to Islamic “charities” that sponsor terrorist organizations, like Hamas and Al Qai’da. At the same time we are talking about attacking Iran, an enemy of Al Qai’da, because of their democratically elected President’s refusal to back down from our government. He’s just as unpopular in Iran as Bush is in America and will also be out of office in 2009. Let’s hope they don’t start war before then.
    I don’t think the solution is to “duck and cover” with Islamic terrorism, and neither does Dr. Paul – he voted for the resolution giving $40 Billion and authority to go kill Al Qai’da in Afghanistan. That mission was a failure – Osama is still alive and Al Qai’da is coming back, read some news about it. But the problem with Islamic terrorism is that it is like fire. Fire depends on three things – fuel, oxygen, and heat. The fuel for that fire comes from our presence in the middle east, the oxygen from the opium fields in Afghanistan and oil in the rest of the middle east, and the heat from the mouths of Osama Bin Laden and other terrorist leaders. Since we haven’t been able to kill Osama and we’re looking in the wrong places, and since we’ve let the Afghani opium business grow to amounts beyond what it was when we went in there (google it), and since china and the US and Europe aren’t about to stop using oil, we have one option left on the table. Get the fudge out and quit dumping the fuel into the fire. You only need to take away one ingredient from fire to make it subside or kill it altogether.
    -Christopher Burch

  36. I suspect 75%+ of the posters here were delivered by male OB/GYNs.
    If you think only women should be OB/GYNs in this day and age, then Dr. Paul has an answer for you: his daughter Lori, who is also an OB/GYN.

  37. Yep, running away like a little bitch – e.g. Democrat, moonbat pretending to be a Republican in order to support Ron Paul (derisive laughter upon him) is so effective with terrorist. Why, look how well it worked in Beirut and Somalia!
    (Paul’lahu Akhbar!)

  38. #59….
    Oh Ya, I couldn’t agree more… lets withdraw all military from the middle east, then all terrorism will just dry up, everyone will fall in love with us, gas prices will drop to $.99 a gallon, and Bil Laden will just kill himself. thats the absolute best forign policy advice I’ve heard since Jimmy Carter…..I mean after all, like you just said, its all America’s fault, right! How about the 8 years Clinton was in office, he didn’t confront Islamic Facism and we had 8 years of peaceful coexistance,…. well there was the first World Trade Center bombing, oh ya, and those embassy’s that were blown up in Africa, not to mention the USS Cole. but I’m sure we did something to deserve all that too.

  39. And here’s Clay’s factually correct smackdown FTW!
    Any ‘tard that thinks “we deserved it” should at least have the nuts to say that to the families- the children in particular- right to their faces. What we deserved was an administration during the ’90s that didn’t cut the military’s ability to do it’s job in half. We didn’t deserve a “peace dividend” at the cost of our national safety, a dividend that, incidentally, could’ve gone towards a children’s healthcare plan like the one everybody on the left refrained from bitching about until early in 2001. Apparently, it wasn’t a big deal ’til W took office, then it was a major issue.

  40. No… I don’t think we deserved it and how dare you accuse me of saying that. I think the fact that it happened was wrong but that doesn’t make the Iraq war right. We should have killed Osama Bin Laden. We didn’t. We gave up when he escaped to Pakistan and then we switched focus to Iraq. This is terribly wrong. You are a little shit for accusing me of blaming the victims of 9/11 for terrorism.
    I voted for GWB in 2000 and 2004. He failed in everything I trusted him to accomplish – from social security to the capture and killing of Bin Laden. Since apparently we are incapable of getting Osama, it is time to come home and get out of the middle east. Not partially, completely. I blame Bill Clinton for staying in Saudi Arabia. I blame everyone in office in the 80’s for supporting Saddam. I blame every president since WWII, democrat or republican, who thought that intervening in other nations internal affairs was a good course of action. The only time I really agree with any President was when Bush #1 stomped Saddam back into Iraq but when he stopped was genius. Instead of removing Saddam, he left him in power so the country didn’t fall into chaos. Then we screwed it up by putting sanctions on that country.
    We can’t bankroll this war and we’re gonna feel the economic wrath of this sooner rather than later.
    Watch your back when you accuse people of supporting terrorists. You better have some damn good evidence to back it up.

  41. OK heres your evidence
    “Our foreign policy has either directly or indirectly put nearly every terrorist organization and dictator in power in the middle east since WWII.”
    “The fuel for that fire comes from our presence in the middle east”
    “We actually supported Saddam”
    “we’ve let the Afghani opium business grow to amounts beyond what it was when we went in there”
    “We are supporting the dictatorship in Pakistan”
    I’ll stop there, but the list goes on and on.
    And your telling me that doesn’t sound like “blame America” ????

  42. Yes, it’s very important to overturn Roe v Wade. The government must be allowed to monitor the pregnancy status of every woman in America. How can you be “sure” that no one had an abortion if you don’t know if they are pregnant?
    And this is important because the next “crisis” is going to be “overpopulation”. IF fascist/socialists (ie dimorats) are allowed to take power, they will blow up the “overpopulation crisis” and set “limits” on familiy size. No more than 2 children per couple.
    So the state will then MANDATA ABORTIONS! Way to go “conservatives”.

  43. A satire blog? Let me know when the satire or something funny happens. I haven’t seen it yet. All I’ve seen is insults and bad attempts at humor that wouldn’t make the stage at a comedy club. Melted butter and banana peels are funnier.
    I was going to defend Dr. Paul here. But after reading this schlock, I changed my mind. I don’t want to talk over your head at the fourth grade level.
    Infants like you are a lost cause, like RedState, but over there they have a little sense of humor. Very little, but a little. Don’t see any here.
    And BTW, I don’t take myself to seriously. I’m a Cubs fan. (Now THAT’S humor!)

  44. The weird beards first law made was: No English speaking guards allowed access to FormerHostage, because their negative ratings were 99.9 percent after the first twenty days. Good stuff, FH and the rest of you Ronin.

  45. The impact of Ron Paul supporter’s humor and arguments are inversely proportional to the number of words they use.
    Hint: When 10 words can refute 100, you know you’re in trouble. Conversely, when you use 100 words to refute a 10-word one-liner, you usually lose.

  46. Dohtimes…and I was the polite one! You shoulda seen how my cell-mate treated them!
    BTW, did you ever notice that debating PaulBots is kinda like that game “Whack-a-Mole” except with a lower level of mental stimulation?
    Oh, and Tannim, someone defending Ron Paul…now THAT’s funny!

  47. //A satire blog? Let me know when the satire or something funny happens. I haven’t seen it yet.//
    Uh, didn’t you come across the rambling, blathering comments left by other Ru Paul supporters? That stuff is pure comedic gold!

  48. Hmm, I do not see the word humor here

    sat·ire [sat-ahyuh r] Pronunciation Key
    –noun
    1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
    2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
    3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.

    or perhaps this is what we have here, either way, no humor mentioned, yet amazingly funny.

    Lampoon refers to a form of satire, often political or personal, characterized by the malice or virulence of its attack: lampoons of the leading political figures.

  49. O Tannim-Bum, O Tannim-Bum
    How lowly are your comments
    You mindless fan of “Dr. Paul”,
    whose support base is very small
    O Tannim-Bum, O Tannim-Bum
    go back where you came from!
    Thank you, everybody! I’ll be playing here all night!

  50. our foreign policy is to blame in causing terrorism
    Not to take the quote out of context, but I am SO sick of when libs trot out that old chestnut.
    It’s like saying an innocent bystander deserved to be raped, mugged or murdered just because they happened to be standing in the wrong place at one particular moment in time; rather than laying the blame and consequences at the feet of those terizts and bad people who don’t know how to play nice with others.
    (sorry for the run-on sentence)

  51. “Our foreign policy has either directly or indirectly put nearly every terrorist organization and dictator in power in the middle east since WWII. We removed a democratically elected leader via CIA coup in 1953 in Iran and put a shaw(king) in place and armed a police force to protect him that was more or less like Germany’s SS.”
    Chris, the Shahs of Iran ran the country since the 1500s.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kings_of_Persia#Shahs_of_modern_Iran
    It has been ruled by dictators since time immemorial. We did not create them What we did do was help topple Mossadegh, the prime minister in the ’53, who was becoming more friendly to the communists. Now, supporting a dictator is not a high point in this country’s history, but it’s an odd criticism coming from a side which is irate that we toppled Saddam Hussein. More importantly it makes no sense to discuss this without bringing up the Cold War and the spread of communism we were fighting at the time and that posed a much bigger threat to democracy in the world.
    “In Afghanistan we funded the Taliban’s fight against the USSR.”
    No, we funded the Mujahideen. The Taliban did not exist during the fight against the USSR and those who would later create it constituted a fringe infinitesimal fraction of the people we were supporting.
    “We’ve got bases in the “holy land” of Saudi Arabia which is a rallying cry for Al Qai’da to get support from the Muslims(15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudis).”
    True, and I’m not fan of our Saudi policy. Back to your original point, as far as the dictators over there, the House of Saud dates back to the 1700s and have ruled the country since they took it from the Ottoman Empire.
    “We backed Saddam Hussein in his attack of Iran in the 80’s (over 1 million Iraqis and Iranians died in that conflict).”
    Just to step back again for a minute to your original claim, we did not bring Saddam Hussein to power. As far as the Iran-Iraq War, we did back them but 1. the overwhelming majority of their weapons came from France and Russia 2. the two sides were getting along fine in killing each other with our help or without it.
    “We actually supported Saddam up to the moment he invaded Kuwait.”
    No we did not. The U.S. cooled considerably in their attitude towards Hussein after the attacks on the Kurds.
    “Then we set up a disastrous “food for oil” program via the U.N. which is estimated to have starved 100,000 people in Iraq.”
    We? Who’s this we, kemosabe? All Saddam had to do to avoid that was: live up to the agreement he agreed to. Even after he broke it, all he had to do to keep his people from starving was to spend the money we gave him to buy food instead of weapons. If I give a poor family $1,000 and the father uses it to buy a gun instead of feeding his kids, you don’t turn on me and berate me for starving them. This also was agreed to by the other parties in the UN, it wasn’t a unilateral U.S. action.
    “We are supporting the dictatorship in Pakistan.”
    Again, that sucks and I’m all for stopping this over the long run, but the immediate alternative is a dictator who supports to us vs. one who’s opposed us and is a much bigger threat to freedom in the world.
    “At the same time we are talking about attacking Iran, an enemy of Al Qai’da, because of their democratically elected President’s refusal to back down from our government.”
    1. Really, is that all? I thought it had something to do with them constantly saying they want to nuke us . . .
    2. Iran is perfectly capable of finding a new friend in these terrorists when it means attacking us.

  52. What surprises me is that they lose steam so quickly. They show up at the drop of a dime & attempt to convert others, but it only lasts so long.
    I guess when your support base is less than Kevin Federline’s, resources get spread pretty thin.

  53. The biggest problem with Paul is his foreign policy. Most of his domestic policies would be good for the country, apart from the fact that he seems to think that the mujaheddin will stop bothering us if we pull out of the Middle East and cut relations with Israel. True, in two or three years we could be spending gold coins, weighing whether or not a convenience abortion is worth accepting a manslaughter charge, and watching public schools get auctioned off one by one to the private Institute of Legitimate Wisdom. But that won’t make much difference, because in a little longer there won’t be a Shire anymore, Pip.

  54. Waow. that was interesting reading (I actually read all the comments). while I understand this is a “satire” section, I’m actually appalled by the extremely non-respectful and hateful comments. It rhymes so ill with what I perceive as conservative values (honest, moral, responsible, nurturing).
    I’m from Sweden myself and throughly despise socialism as a result of having experienced it, and it’s sickening rhetoric and personal control. I’ve actively engaged myself in anti-communist efforts, and have with joy seen more and more Chinese leave the CCP. So I’m against anything that have policies that supports leftist agendas, and that remove power from the individuals. Does that make me a “conservative”?
    While I voted for the right most available party in Sweden when I was a teenager (I’m a dual citizen), the problem I’m having with the US so called conservatives is that they support and are doing business with China, are anything but Christians in their value system (as expressed in foreign policy, for example), and suppress the American people with increasingly restrictive and controlling laws that resembles communistic-like shackles. Sure I can create an insulting anti-Bush video clip[p and post it to YouTube without going to jail, but at the same time I can be named an enemy combatant, or end up on a list that restrict my rights, without thee athorities having to procude a shred of evidence. I cannot see how that can be regarded as liberty, regardless of a perceived threat from the inside or the outside.
    Now, I am NOT anti-government, I believe in the rule of law, and the rule of divinity (but think they should be separate), but I cannot honestly support conservatives in this country (less democrats) since the whole political arena, especially the right side of it since you are more vocal, seems ideologically contaminated by some sort of teenage machosims that are dumbing down the whole conversation, always. How can so called conservatives be proud over this recent Bush legacy that in my view more resembles Trotskyism, more than anything conservative.
    Furthermore, the critique against the Clintons are baffling. Isn’t it obvious that they are in complete liaison with the Bush and the generally “conservative” agenda (what I wouldn’t call conservative.
    I don’t know enough about Ron Paul to support him, but I’m also not convinced that the US political, judicial and intelligence arena isn’t as power hungry, corrupt and larger than live in it’s ambitions, as Edward the III, or Henry the 8th who changed the religious laws of England to serve his own agenda… sorry for ranting, but you all brought it out of me 🙂

  55. Hey, I did not know you guys were out there. Gee, with sharp intelects like y’all how can Fred not win … I mean 10 word sentences as the depth of your compostion and comprehension. Well, you showed those Ron Paul you sure did.
    It sounds like the government schools have well indoctrinated you and all that you can say the the 1984 diatribe. Try something new THINK!! It is probably something new for all you smart Fredloaders.
    Keep dividing the GOP and surely you will reap what you have sown.
    Good luck with that.

  56. What I love the most about Paulbots? The whole “I’m not a Ron Paul supporter, but…”. It’s like when someone says “I don’t meant to be rude, but…”. Of course they mean to! Also popular is the “I’m sorry, but blah blah blah…”. They’re aren’t sorry in the least, at least not in the traditional sense; you want to see someone who is sorry, look at Andy Meyer & the rest of the “truthers”… what a bag o’ ‘tards.
    Then there’s happycat… you sure that’s not a typo in your name there, sparky?

  57. It’s some kind of weird “fake but accurate” rhetorical projection. If being yourself isn’t credible enough, the correct thing to do is assume an identity that would give more weight to your statement, and explain it away as speaking on behalf of a group of people who have been disenfranchised by whatever. As long as there is, or plausibly could be, someone out there who is in real life quite similar to your fake persona, you aren’t being dishonest, at least as far as loonythink logic goes.
    A short guide to doing it in action:
    When defending something, assume an identity that would normally indicate you’d oppose it, and make it known that you do oppose it in most ways except on the point you’re trying to make.
    When attacking something, assume an identity that would normally indicate you’d agree with it, and make it known that you do agree with it in most ways except on the point you’re trying to make.
    Either way, it’s supposed to afford you an image of immense thoughtfulness and wisdom.
    For example, to defend Ron Paul, you should probably come off as fluffy-headed commie who thinks privatizing every other government function is madness, and then follow up with applauding his foreign policy.
    Or, to attack Dubya, you should come off as a Republican that supports at least half of his achievements, or perhaps you were with him all the way but “found out that you were deceived” by his push for the Iraq war.

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